Grand Prix Rejects

jonnyeol

Redble Arch (Marble Arch)
Broken Jaguar (Green Park)
....at Zandvoort (Holland Park)

I nearly wanted to do something with 'Kilburn', but that would have been in VERY bad taste.

Oh, sod it. I'll get my coat, shall I?

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The 1996 Sauber c15. Ford's first V10 Formula 1 engine wasn't up to speed yet, and the car wasn't very reliable, but the car was known to have potential and showed well in wet and street races (where power didn't matter so much) and was also believed to be excellent at generating downforce at high s...

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They only started doing DVDs in 2003, with an exception of an early attempt in 2000 (which made quite poor use of the format, it being quite new then). There has been absolutely no sign of a DVD release of the 1981-2002 VHS tapes. I don't have them all, but I do have quite a few. Always liked the 19...

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Oh, and the Clive James reviews are available for 1982, 1984 and 1986. VHS only, though - they never released them on DVD. "Except for the dogged Tyrells and some teams with names like brands of Orange Juice....." (San Marino 1982, probably referring to Osella). "All they needed to do...

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Ok, just remembered another gem today. 1983 Austrian GP, James Hunt (and even Murray...who's not usually prone to this sort of thing) starts ripping into J.P. Jarrier for holding up Tambay, and allowing Arnoux to take the lead. The best bits from James Hunt's abuse includes... "He'll be thanki...

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Tealy wrote:The Virgin car is beautiful if you ask me. Sadly it's missing a few features in the car shape. My favourite car design (ignoring livery) this season is the Pacchia.

Nice CD collection, that.

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For me so far.... 1 - Virgin. I agree with everything you've all said. Work. Of. Art. 2 - Renault - Memories not only of early Renault, but 1997 Jordan. 3 - Merc. Silver and turquoise seem rather fetching. 4 - Toro Rosso. Same as it ever was. 5 - McLaren - Ditto, but the rounded high nose doesn't lo...

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Let's have a think..... McLaren: They did get a grip on the low-downforce rules eventually, so the only real doubt is whether the all-Brit line-up will work. I think it will as Button isn't as self-important as Alonso was. Mercedes: Will Schumi get back on form quickly? Will Rosberg be destroyed in ...

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I remember a few specific examples. Hungary 2004: Re-tagged a bunch of MP3s. France 1995: Read through a bunch of old computer mags lying around Valencia 2008: Discussed the Front 242 show we were going to see later that night I know a couple of times in 2002, I was heavily into all-night clubbing o...

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There seems to be this thing about Japanese Drivers, where you never know when they're going to go The Way Of The Samurai and when they're going to go The Way Of The Kamikaze. Sato and Katayama were the best exemplars of that approach. Until Kobayashi came along. The first time I've found Toyota rem...

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Probably the biggest dissapointing ever would be Ricardo Rosset. Yes, he was 2nd in Formula 3000 in 1995 (admittedly quite a weak year for the series) and the F1 mags were rating him quite highly pre-1996 season. It never happened, did it? I'd cautiously mention Karl Wendlinger , who was able to be...

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I'd certainly say Villeneuve in 1997 when you consider his wins that year: Brazil: Ran wide at the first corner, and would have been nowhere had it not been for the restart Argentine: Panis and both Jordans were on for the win before hitting trouble, and Irvine chased him to the line in a much-infer...

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Yep, Supertecs came close to winning Grand Prix in 1999, when they were effectively 2 years old, and were still good for middle-points scoring positions come 2000 in the backs of Benettons and Arrows. So it was a decent basic unit. Indeed, Renaults engine block in 2004 was derived from the 1999 Supe...

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I half-expected them to be banned from the sport, but being given special dispensation to continue as an engine supplier.

Also interesting to note that they'll still hold the win in their records, but as the other post says, the results are set in stone, written in the history books.

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There was lots of overtaking back in the turbo era, but it didn't make the racing more exciting all the time. Take Prost's 1985 championship - he'd let some other driver run off in front and then just use all the fuel he saved earlier on to zip past them later. His manoevres were rarely spectactular...

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TEAM NAME: XYZ-VW Engine Manufacturer: VW Diesel (they finally enter F1, but it has to be eco-friendly, and runs off used chip fat as a result) Team Principal: That crazy bloke who used to run Onyx Head Designer: None. Rejected designs from other teams simply stolen from trash cans outside their HQs...

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Damaged Goods. Who'd touch him right now?

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I LOVE Charade and it's a pity it'll never be possible to host a race there again for safety reasons. I played simulations of it in some F1 games and loved every turn. No-one's done a good version of it in the more recent games, or am I very much mistaken? Rouen is also fantastic, but I could never ...

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The tradional approach, in real life and also in F1 Manager computer games (wish there was more of those) is one experienced old-hand who hasn't had lot of success of late, and one relatively or totally new driver. Examples: Stewart 1997: Barrichello (going stale at Jordan in 1996) and Magnussen (ho...

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The past few seasons close championship finishes and freak races have masked how awful the racing has been. I hope this year the shifting in speeds of the teams doesn't make us lose sight of the fact the on-track action has been completely dismal nearly all season. I agree partially - the middle pa...

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I'd still go for the 'super Winkle' for Europe 2007, mainly for being a fact-spotters dream. The only driver to start last and first during the same Grand Prix and the only driver to qualify last and lead during his debut.

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Mine spells 'HAL', like the computer from 2001:Space Odyssey (it was also a school nickname of mine, for a time). Had I entered F1, I would have been a tech guy anyway, not a driver.

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Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but I really fancy a go at this. I'm going to use 1. Australia - Mount Panorama 2. South Africa - Kyalami (old layout) 3. Argentina - Autodromo Oscar Galvez (1981 layout) 4. Brazil - Interlagos (70s layout) 5. Switzerland - Bern-Bremgarten (a throwback to the 50s) 6...

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This is probably all wrong, but here's a wild, wild, guess. Brawn - Mercedes 1 Jenson Button 2 Bruno Senna New world champion Button is a dead cert, as are the Mercedes engines - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Barrichello retires after a weak second half of the year that cost Brawn the Constructor...

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"Discretion Is The Better Part Of Valour" - Eddie Jordan
"Tarmac Laying Masterclass" - The Dallas 1984 Promoters (updated edition features Canadian Grand Prix Special for 2008)
"Track Invaders Help No-One" - Rubens Barrichello

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OK...... The 2002 Season. .....2004 was dull but had a few good races (Monaco, Belgium). 2002 had nothing of interest after Australia. Interefering F1 Officialdom - Just regulate the wing heights and engine capacity and then LET THEM RACE!!! Midland - Treated F1 as a money-making exercise with no re...

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When they change the tone of red they use back to the Italian Racing Red (last seen in 1995) rather than Marlboro Red/Orange, then I'll believe it.

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Pantano is not coming back. It's sad, after he won GP2, but his run in F1 was a disappointment and he's 30 years old, which means he's no longer development material. Yep - Pantano's career in F1 is pretty much over after that Jordan season (the few races Timo Glock did showed he should have raced ...

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I think Alesi is one of F1's great 'One Hit Wonders' - drivers who won One race, did so with style, but were destined never to win another. There's a tribute to another one (Olivier Panis at Monaco 1996) on this site too. Carlos Pace at Brazil 1975 is an earlier example, or even Peter Gethin at Monz...

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2002 - I was living a heavy all-night clubbing life back then and picked a good year to miss a few races. It was the way Ferrari lorded their advantage over the entire field. 2004 was much the same but not as bad as it still produced some good races (Monaco, Spa - also Monza and Interlagos to an ext...

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We've got a thread on 'Diffusergate' and regardless of that, the Oz GP result still changed twice after the chequered flag thanks to 'Lie-Gate'. We also saw the BAR cars DQed from Imola 2005, even though only Button's car was protested initally. Looking back a long way, Schuey and Coulthard were DQe...

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thehemogoblin wrote:Either way, it will be boring.

Maybe, but let's just hope they give him a hilly site to work with. Tilke's best tracks have been once where there's a bit of gradient to play with.

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Must get a copy one day - he lives not far from where I grew up in Essex. Suprised I never saw him around....perhaps he was driving too fast?

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It's April 1st in some parts of the world (especially Australia), but not here yet......

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I think the whole DECISION to make the 1950-1960 Indy 500 count qualifies as a reject, since the two racing series were otherwise unrelated. Usually the F1 records 'ignore' the Indy 500 (so Johnnie Parsons is only sometime listed as being one of only 3 men to win his first GP - did the Indy 500 even...

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It goes to show - Teams need to be run by people who know what they're doing, like Ross Brawn and Nick Fry. Car manufacturer boardrooms shouldn't get involved (Toyota have repeatedly failed to get to the top of the sport and excessive influence from Japan could be a reason). Let's hope Richard Brans...

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I'm holding out hope that the 2009 regulations will make Valencia a lot different this year. You kind of have to give it the benefit of the doubt given that it's virgin territory. And even if it's a boring rae, at least it's pretty to look at. Anyway, my nomination is the 1999 Spanish Grand Prix , ...

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Flavio is more than happy to get shot of any driver that falls out of favour. He did it to JJ Lehto, he did it to Jarno Trulli and nearly did it to Johnny Herbert before his British GP win. The comment that Alonso doesn't want another competitive teammate is a touch dated. The likes of Senna in the ...

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RejectSteve wrote:
rffp wrote: Forti had class though, the neon green wheels of 1995 and the cars were always vibrantly painted..

Yep, not so much a case of 'Grooved Tyres' as 'Groovy Tyres'.

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