Grand Prix Rejects

IceG

So, is that two French (really part-French, part-Algerian) F1 drivers now? Pierre-Henri Raphanel being the first? I believe that Esteban José Jean-Pierre Ocon-Khelfane has an Algerian or Moroccan mother... He is of Algerian and Spanish descent. So, to be pedantic, he is French of Algerian and Spani...

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Har1MAS1415 wrote: ↑20 Dec 2024, 13:28 So, is that two French (really part-French, part-Algerian) F1 drivers now?

Pierre-Henri Raphanel being the first?

I believe that Esteban José Jean-Pierre Ocon-Khelfane has an Algerian or Moroccan mother...

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So Lawson to Alpine or Williams (or WEC) in 2026? But seriously, this leaves Red Bull and Mercedes with one driver and one trainee each for 2025, whilst McLaren and Ferrari have got proven top quality in both seats. The potential spectacle of Verstappen winning the WDC remains, but surely the WCC is...

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For me there is only one reject of the season... Christian bath-plugging Horner. (1) there is strong evidence (shared across the paddock and reported widely) that he used his power and influence to sexually harass a vulnerable female employee, then used that same power and influence to ensure he ke...

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For me there is only one reject of the season... Christian bath-plugging Horner. (1) there is strong evidence (shared across the paddock and reported widely) that he used his power and influence to sexually harass a vulnerable female employee, then used that same power and influence to ensure he kep...

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The 2024 Abu Dhabi "Checo checkout, Valtteri valedictory and Kevin kevout" F1 Grand Prix 1. Leclerc 2. Norris 3. Hamilton 4. Sainz 5. Russell 6. Piastri 7. Verstappen 8. Hulkenberg 9. Bottas 10. Alonso Race Pole: Norris FL: Piastri First Retirement: Colapinto ROTR: Race direction and the s...

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Zhou. End of.

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The circuit itself led to a tedious sprint and a tedious race until the mirror fell off...

...and the race director's handling of that was incompetent in the extreme and the standout rejectity of a race full of rejectfulness.

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The 2024 Qatar "No one quares who quame second" F1 Grand Prix S1: Leclerc S2: Norris S3: Piastri S4: Sainz S5: Verstappen S6: Russell S7: Hamilton S8: Albon Sprint Pole: Leclerc First Retirement or None: None 1: Leclerc 2: Norris 3: Verstappen 4: Russell 5: Sainz 6: Piastri 7: Hamilton 8. ...

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Ocon's pit stop is probably the most rejectful thing.

But what happened about the Sainz pit stop shennanigans? Surely a slam dunk penalty yet there appears to be nothing.

IceG

Nothing improbable occurred - no scratch that.

I just saw the Leclerc radio message "Maybe try it in Spanish" - awesome

IceG

Just watched the LV qualifying. Did anyone else notice the comment from Martin Brundell after Q1 that he was "sure that Colapinto would be in a seat next year, and a competitive one at that", followed by "especially after some of the performances we have just seen". He seemed to ...

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The 2024 Las(*cuts to unknown US celeb) Ve(*snubbed by US gangsta DJ)gas F1(*cuts to helicopter shot of Sin City) Grand Prix 1. Russell 2. Norris 3. Hamilton 4. Leclerc 5. Verstappen 6. Sainz 7. Piastri 8. Hulkenberg 9. Perez 10. Bottas Race Pole: Russell FL: Piastri 1st Retirement: Albon ROTR: Race...

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I'm not aware that there are definite prescribed penalties at all for what Norris et al did. They failed to follow the race director's instructions. For which there are a range of specified penalties. The fact that this has happened before (I forgot about Sainz' tribulations) might be a mitigation ...

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OK, now the craven stewards have bottled it... There is only one IIDOTR: Alpine . Everything else, like Verstappen winning from 17th or Tsunoda lucking into 3rd for a while before finishing 7th - so what - would have been probable. But a disfunctional team under new management, with drivers who have...

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Been waiting for the outcomes of the stewards' investigations before commenting. RoTR for me is undoubtedly Race Control and the Stewards. (1) Russell, Norris and Tsunoda should have received AT LEAST 10 second penalties for leaving the grid when the aborted start sign came up. Not only did they bre...

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The 2024 Brazilian "Crofty reaches a peak of patter" F1 Grand Prix S1: Leclerc S2: Russell S3: Norris S4: Sainz S5: Hamilton S6: Piastri S7: Bearman S8: Verstappen Sprint Pole: Leclerc First Retirement or None: Perez 1. Leclerc 2. Norris 3. Sainz 4. Russell 5. Verstappen 6. Piastri 7. Hami...

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(1) K-Mag - great way to bow out (probably)

(2) The stewards who appear to have found some huevos.

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Agree with everything above re Red Bull. Max is a great driver but last weekend he showed Lando how to win this weekend. Checo has fallen faster than Dani; teams looking at Max as a star driver may start to consider the down-sides: destroys team-mates and pushes beyond the limits to the point where ...

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Surely Sainz will be at Red Bull or Aston Martin next year? Perez looks like a done deal now, sadly. And neither Tsunodo nor Lawson could be expected to compete with Sainz. Neither Alonso nor Stroll are a long-term prospect (even allowing for the car issues) at Astom Martin - someone better is neede...

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The 2024 Mexican "Perez has Checoed out" F1 Grand Prix 1) Sainz 2) Leclerc 3) Norris 4) Piastri 5) Hamilton 6) Verstappen 7) Russell 8) Tsunoda 9) Hulkenberg 10) Colapinto Pole: Leclerc Fastest Lap: Norris First Retirement: Zhou ROTR: Perez IIDOTR: Colapinto DBTMOTR: Perez LP: Bottas F2P: ...

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1= Lawson and Colapinto, both put in performances that easily justify their seats for this year, and seats for next year

3 Ferrari strategists for doing a great job for once

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Comedy driver reject: Hamilton for binning it all on his own Serious driver rejects: Albon for getting thrashed by the new boy, Tsunoda for getting thrashed by the new boy, and Perez for, well, being Perez Race reject: commentators saying COTA is great because it promotes overtaking and COTA is crap...

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Clearly, they only told Max

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The 2024 "I hate race weekends with sprints when they are not in a sensible Euro timeslot" US F1 rodeo S1: Leclerc S2: Norris S3: Piastri S4: Verstappen S5: Hamilton S6: Sainz S7: Russell S8: Albon Sprint Pole: Leclerc First Retirement or None: Magnussen 1. Norris 2. Leclerc 3. Piastri 4. ...

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* In an alternative world, a standardised ICE with manufacturers given a free hand over the electrical elements might be a good thing. Which would make F1 just a Formula E variant? Or is Formula E just Formula 1 without the ICE, given the number of street circuits that the FIA is foisting on us.

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Seems that the open secret about the end of Renault engines is now public: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/articles/c2kdzk9z248o Probably a logical conclusion for a mass non-luxury brand that needs to get its production base over to EVs. Shame for the folk at Viry who have achieved great result...

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The 2024 Singa-f***in'-pore F1 Grand Prix 1. Charles Leclerc 2. Lando Norris 3. Oscar Piastri 4. Carlos Sainz 5. Max Verstappen 6. Sergio Perez 7. Alex Albon 8. George Russell 9. Fernando Alonso 10. Kevin "f***in' s*** up" Magnussen Pole: Leclerc FL: Norris First Retirement: Hamilton ROTR:...

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The 2024 Azerbaijan "Drive 0.5 laps, crash, and get the coldest seat in F1" Grand Prix 1. Oscar Piastri 2. Lando Norris 3. Charles Leclerc 4. Max Verstappen 5. George Russell 6. Carlos Sainz 7. Lewis Hamilton 8. Sergio Perez 9. Nico Hulkenberg 10. Alex Albon Race Pole: Oscar Piastri Fastes...

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Yup: Ferrari strategists (even if they did kinda sacrifice Sainz) and Colapinto for not setting fire to the upgrades

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(1) Nico Rosberg for saying "he was in my karting team" during every conversation about Antonelli

(2) Nothing really

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The 2024 Italian "Drive 5 laps, crash, and get the hottest seat in F1" Grand Prix 1. Lando Norris 2. Charles Leclerc 3. Oscar Piastri 4. Lewis Hamilton 5. Max Verstappen 6. Carlos Sainz 7. George Russell 8. Sergio Perez 9. Alex Albon 10. Daniel Ricciardo Race Pole: Lando Norris Fastest Lap...

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(1) Leclerc for a really solid, measured race, and an unexpected podium

(2) Verstappen (yes really) for a great recovery drive

(3) Norris for his tongue-in-cheek "very lovely" on the cool-down lap

IceG

Nothing really rejectful for me - that was covered by Williams during practice and qualifying.

But even Williams beat Sauber so i guess Sauber are RoTR.

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Wallio wrote: ↑25 Aug 2024, 11:01 Williams is an absolute dumpster fire this year, not to mention the undisputed lock for ROTY.

Do we just ignore the pointless Sauber team who take over a minute to do a pit-stop?

IceG

Who is the Williams reserve driver for this year?

Sargeant is surely now a liability for the team? Car and new parts written off by pure driver error.

Just stick Antonelli in there for the rest of the season. He can hardly do worse.

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The 2024 Dutch :evil: "frikandel en gehaktballen" :evil: F1 Grand Prix 1) Norris 2) Russell 3) Hamilton 4) Verstappen 5) Piastri 6) Sainz 7) Leclerc 8) Albon 9) Ricciardo 10) Tsunoda Pole: Norris Fastest Lap: Norris First Retirement: Bottas ROTR: Alpine (double DNF) IIDOTR: Ricciardo DBTMO...

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Just wonder if Sainz to Williams is a co-ordinated back-up plan with Mercedes in case Antonelli, the new golden child, proves to be a dud? If Antonelli does not start performing at a decent level, then a quick switcheroo (thanks DR) and all will be right with the world. Meanwhile, over at Red Bull, ...

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Does Sainz' signing for Williams really mean that both drivers are appendixless - what a weight-saving strategy

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Absolutely Mercedes' 1 and 2 - was not expecting that at all given Mclaren's recent pace and Ferrari's form on Friday and Saturday.

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