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Peter · Post by **Peter** » 18 Jun 2011, 00:08

Ferrim wrote:THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING RACE EVER!!!! THEY SAID BUTTON COULDN'T OVERTAKE!! HE CAME DOWN FROM LAST TO FIRST IN 30 LAPS!! TAKE IT THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!

(That would have been Allen )

Ohh and Vettel's off and Button is leading coming out of the bend.

That's Legard.

Brundle is doing a fine job considering the person he replaced was the worst commentator ever. I miss Allen though

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 18 Jun 2011, 00:15

Peter wrote:
Ferrim wrote:THIS IS THE MOST AMAZING RACE EVER!!!! THEY SAID BUTTON COULDN'T OVERTAKE!! HE CAME DOWN FROM LAST TO FIRST IN 30 LAPS!! TAKE IT THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!!!

(That would have been Allen )

Ohh and Vettel's off and Button is leading coming out of the bend.

That's Legard.

Brundle is doing a fine job considering the person he replaced was the worst commentator ever. I miss Allen though

James Allen was a fantastic pit reporter. It's really a shame that most think of his commentary-era when you say his name.

dnhrudi · Post by **dnhrudi** » 20 Jun 2011, 09:32

Just been reading about the number of talented junior racers 'retiring' from the sport after their karting careers or their first forays into cars, because the cost of career progression is so totally out of reach of anyone unless daddy has a multi-national inport-export/banking/Oil/frozen yoghurt business. Even Ferrari's driver scheme has a boy who's dad is a billionaire (wonder if he's paying for the entire Ferrari scheme?). At over a million for a formula 3 ride, and 2.5 for a GP2, I have this twisted, sweat inducing fantasy of seeing the F1 grid over the next 10 years, all wearing Pedro Diniz's helmet, a kinda motorsport V for vendetta vibe......with race fans all over the world applauding the least slow of em.....Not sure if I'm gonna be that interested in a sport entirely populated by Nelson Piquet Jrs flinging their silver spoons around.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 27 Jun 2011, 15:04

For those who watch F1 but, after every single race if it ends up being different of Dijon 79 or Canada 2011, moan about too much reliability, that there was just not enough overtaking, that F1 now became too much artificial and that the same guy wins every time, should just quit watching F1 and spare everyone from that annoying and repetitive whining.

I think cricket is one of the dullest sports in the planet and yet I don't go out every time there is a cricket match and bore people to death with it.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 27 Jun 2011, 16:55

DanielPT wrote:For those who watch F1 but, after every single race if it ends up being different of Dijon 79 or Canada 2011, moan about too much reliability, that there was just not enough overtaking, that F1 now became too much artificial and that the same guy wins every time, should just quit watching F1 and spare everyone from that annoying and repetitive whining.

I think cricket is one of the dullest sports in the planet and yet I don't go out every time there is a cricket match and bore people to death with it.

Post of the year, all years.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 27 Jun 2011, 18:48

If red bull want the Austrian national anthem played then move lock stock and barrel to Austria.... if you base yourself in a country then a team must register their team from that country and i feel its a snub to all the british workers at the red bull (and this is coming from a scotsman that wants independance....)

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 27 Jun 2011, 19:17

WeirdKerr wrote:If red bull want the Austrian national anthem played then move lock stock and barrel to Austria.... if you base yourself in a country then a team must register their team from that country and i feel its a snub to all the british workers at the red bull (and this is coming from a scotsman that wants independance....)

Completely and utterly agreed. It's a disgrace and an insult to the motorsport industry within the UK which is one of, if not the best and most prosperous in the world.

In one sense however, I wouldn't mind if Mercedes won a race and played the German national anthem, and the same for Renault, despite both being based mostly within the UK. They are manufacturers of cars and so in my opinion deserve to have an allegiance to their country of origin. It's when companies such as Red Bull or Marussia, or owners like Mallya or Fernandes enforce whatever they want on their teams.

(Btw I know Marussia is a car-maker but in reality they're just a sponsor, and a very small car maker at that. Has anyone ever seen a Marussia?)

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 27 Jun 2011, 23:35

AndreaModa wrote:(Btw I know Marussia is a car-maker but in reality they're just a sponsor, and a very small car maker at that. Has anyone ever seen a Marussia?)

I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has heard of Marussia outside of their sponsorship of Virgin, much less someone who's seen one. What the hell kind of name is Marussia, anyway?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 27 Jun 2011, 23:38

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:(Btw I know Marussia is a car-maker but in reality they're just a sponsor, and a very small car maker at that. Has anyone ever seen a Marussia?)

I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has heard of Marussia outside of their sponsorship of Virgin, much less someone who's seen one. What the hell kind of name is Marussia, anyway?

Indeed. They should be called Marx instead. And I think I'll only stand a small chance of seeing one if I ever go to Marbella.

dnhrudi · Post by **dnhrudi** » 28 Jun 2011, 05:43

DanielPT wrote:For those who watch F1 but, after every single race if it ends up being different of Dijon 79 or Canada 2011, moan about too much reliability, that there was just not enough overtaking, that F1 now became too much artificial and that the same guy wins every time, should just quit watching F1 and spare everyone from that annoying and repetitive whining.

I think cricket is one of the dullest sports in the planet and yet I don't go out every time there is a cricket match and bore people to death with it.

Agree totally, we should revel in a sport that at least we never have a draw. Nothing more mundane than that

dnhrudi · Post by **dnhrudi** » 29 Jun 2011, 00:25

Phoenix wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:(Btw I know Marussia is a car-maker but in reality they're just a sponsor, and a very small car maker at that. Has anyone ever seen a Marussia?)

I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who has heard of Marussia outside of their sponsorship of Virgin, much less someone who's seen one. What the hell kind of name is Marussia, anyway?

Indeed. They should be called Marx instead. And I think I'll only stand a small chance of seeing one if I ever go to Marbella.

Lots of money and no product then, which in the long history of dark glasses sponsors will probably secure Virgin's reject status

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 05 Jul 2011, 18:31

Sebastian Vettel, people are already doubting your mental strength. Claiming in an ad that you can only be successful because you don't have to worry about dandruff does not help matters much.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 05 Jul 2011, 18:42

Klon wrote:Sebastian Vettel, people are already doubting your mental strength. Claiming in an ad that you can only be successful because you don't have to worry about dandruff does not help matters much.

Dandruff can be quite distracting with all the itching. :lol:

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 05 Jul 2011, 19:45

I think its about time the FIA step in and do something about drivers changing their helmet design every bathplugging race!!! yes fingermouse im looking at you...... stick to one design and be done with it please....

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 05 Jul 2011, 19:48

Ultimately the two biggest contributions to environmental damage of Formula 1 are:

1) The design, manufacturing and testing process of the cars. Not the travel and not the racing of said cars. The energy and raw materials consumption of the industry is incredibly high, because it is basically researching, developing and building prototypes, going through different iterations of designs and scrapping perfectly acceptable components that just happen to not produce the required extra 0.5 kg of downforce. They're not proven products that have been perfected in all of its inputs and mass-manufactured.

2) The spectators. The spectators, both at the track and at home. The track-side spectators drive, fly, take trains and whatever other means of transport they choose to watch the cars racing. The spectators are indulging in so-called 'unnecessary travel' in pursuit of entertainment, 'thoughtlessly' generating carbon emissions. Also, the television spectators dare to sit in their homes (or any other place of their choice) and 'thoughtlessly' squander electricity (the generation of which is the greatest contributor to carbon emissions) being entertained rather than using it for 'productive' and / or 'worthy' purposes.

Any chance to the engine formula will have a minimal effect (if any) to the environmental contribution of the sport. It's all about perception management. If the sport was actually concerned with environmental impact, we'd be racing road cars that have been scrapped.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 05 Jul 2011, 20:32

Klon wrote:Sebastian Vettel, people are already doubting your mental strength. Claiming in an ad that you can only be successful because you don't have to worry about dandruff does not help matters much.

Is that Head & Shoulders? Button's in the British equivalent.

Post by **mario** » 05 Jul 2011, 21:28

WeirdKerr wrote:I think its about time the FIA step in and do something about drivers changing their helmet design every bathplugging race!!! yes fingermouse im looking at you...... stick to one design and be done with it please....

Brundle did mention that now, every time that Vettel wins a race, the helmet and race suit he wore on that occasion are packaged up and set to one side - it seems either Red Bull or Vettel (Brundle did seem to suggest that it was Vettel that was behind it) were thinking, several years down the line, they could be sold off to collectors and museums for a sizeable profit, given how buoyant the current market for collectibles is.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 05 Jul 2011, 21:32

mario wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:I think its about time the FIA step in and do something about drivers changing their helmet design every bathplugging race!!! yes fingermouse im looking at you...... stick to one design and be done with it please....

Brundle did mention that now, every time that Vettel wins a race, the helmet and race suit he wore on that occasion are packaged up and set to one side - it seems either Red Bull or Vettel (Brundle did seem to suggest that it was Vettel that was behind it) were thinking, several years down the line, they could be sold off to collectors and museums for a sizeable profit, given how buoyant the current market for collectibles is.

Oh my days what is the world coming to? :roll:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 05 Jul 2011, 21:46

AndreaModa wrote:
mario wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:I think its about time the FIA step in and do something about drivers changing their helmet design every bathplugging race!!! yes fingermouse im looking at you...... stick to one design and be done with it please....

Brundle did mention that now, every time that Vettel wins a race, the helmet and race suit he wore on that occasion are packaged up and set to one side - it seems either Red Bull or Vettel (Brundle did seem to suggest that it was Vettel that was behind it) were thinking, several years down the line, they could be sold off to collectors and museums for a sizeable profit, given how buoyant the current market for collectibles is.

Oh my days what is the world coming to?

It really is what they say. Money: The more you have, the more you want.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 05 Jul 2011, 22:09

AndreaModa wrote:
mario wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:I think its about time the FIA step in and do something about drivers changing their helmet design every bathplugging race!!! yes fingermouse im looking at you...... stick to one design and be done with it please....

Brundle did mention that now, every time that Vettel wins a race, the helmet and race suit he wore on that occasion are packaged up and set to one side - it seems either Red Bull or Vettel (Brundle did seem to suggest that it was Vettel that was behind it) were thinking, several years down the line, they could be sold off to collectors and museums for a sizeable profit, given how buoyant the current market for collectibles is.

Oh my days what is the world coming to?

I hope Red Bull has a GOOD supply of overralls and helmets then, since Vettel doesn't seem to be stopping his winstreak anytime soon

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 05 Jul 2011, 22:41

WeirdKerr wrote:I think its about time the FIA step in and do something about drivers changing their helmet design every bathplugging race!!! yes fingermouse im looking at you...... stick to one design and be done with it please....

It doesn't matter because if we see a Red Bull leading we all know who it is!

Post by **tommykl** » 09 Jul 2011, 17:32

After Aldgesswari and Heidfield, it's Ricardo.

Get it right, BBC! It's RicCIardo!

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 09 Jul 2011, 17:36

tommykl wrote:After Aldgesswari and Heidfield, it's Ricardo.

Get it right, BBC! It's RicCIardo!

Actually, Ricciardo himself pronounces it Ricardo, he said in an interview that its pronounced that way in Australia, and when in sicily, its pronounced Ricciardo.

Post by **tommykl** » 09 Jul 2011, 17:44

DonTirri wrote:
tommykl wrote:After Aldgesswari and Heidfield, it's Ricardo.

Get it right, BBC! It's RicCIardo!

Actually, Ricciardo himself pronounces it Ricardo, he said in an interview that its pronounced that way in Australia, and when in sicily, its pronounced Ricciardo.

Well, I didn't know that, so thanks!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 09 Jul 2011, 19:38

tommykl wrote:
DonTirri wrote:
tommykl wrote:After Aldgesswari and Heidfield, it's Ricardo.

Get it right, BBC! It's RicCIardo!

Actually, Ricciardo himself pronounces it Ricardo, he said in an interview that its pronounced that way in Australia, and when in sicily, its pronounced Ricciardo.

Well, I didn't know that, so thanks!

Yep, during FP1 yesterday, David Croft of BBC Radio 5 Live played a clip of an interview with Daniel, where this pronounciation was confirmed.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 23 Jul 2011, 11:32

Seeing just another of the silly Chevrolet incidents in the WTCC makes me really glad that there are team orders in F1.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 23 Jul 2011, 12:27

That comment also belongs to the "Unpopular F1 opinions" thread!

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 23 Jul 2011, 13:32

Because of that crazy man in Norway 7/22/11 every single sport in norway is postponed, and every broadcast does only talk about that. Still, not much of a rant really... I feel honored that this is being marked at many places around the world, from Tour de France and a friendly match between Liverpool and Hull...

But what an idiot!

Sry for a very little motorsportrelated rant!

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 23 Jul 2011, 13:36

Myrvold wrote:Because of that crazy man in Norway 7/22/11 every single sport in norway is postponed, and every broadcast does only talk about that. Still, not much of a rant really... I feel honored that this is being marked at many places around the world, from Tour de France and a friendly match between Liverpool and Hull...

But what an idiot!

Sry for a very little motorsportrelated rant!

I find it disgusting that the only way a smallish country like Norway will ever get worldwide recognition is when something like that happens. It was same with Finland and the school shootings a few years ago. It's bathplug disgusting. And it will last only until the vultures that are global media have had their share of gore and moved onto some sex scandal or other silly thing.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 23 Jul 2011, 14:02

DonTirri wrote:
Myrvold wrote:Because of that crazy man in Norway 7/22/11 every single sport in norway is postponed, and every broadcast does only talk about that. Still, not much of a rant really... I feel honored that this is being marked at many places around the world, from Tour de France and a friendly match between Liverpool and Hull...

But what an idiot!

Sry for a very little motorsportrelated rant!

I find it disgusting that the only way a smallish country like Norway will ever get worldwide recognition is when something like that happens. It was same with Finland and the school shootings a few years ago. It's bathplug disgusting. And it will last only until the vultures that are global media have had their share of gore and moved onto some sex scandal or other silly thing.

It's worse Stateside, they blow any violent act out of proportion to the point where the "News" is more like televised scaremongering to keep people inside. -___-;;

dnhrudi · Post by **dnhrudi** » 23 Jul 2011, 17:58

That such a horrific event such as what happened in Oslo was almost immediately overtaken by the death of Winehouse at the bottom of a bottle, sums up the priorities of world media perfectly

Myrvold · Post by **Myrvold** » 23 Jul 2011, 23:16

It does. It is the worst killing spree ever... The guy also sent his manifest to finnish(!) politicans, and it is described how to do any terror attack, and other tips and tricks, over 1500 pages. He actually killed two 7year old kids as well. And he have admitted to do it, he didn't like it, but felt it was a thing he had to do. It had been planned over nine years.

But still, even Norwegian media now runs the story of Amy Whinehouse as the top of the online news...

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 24 Jul 2011, 00:48

dnhrudi wrote:That such a horrific event such as what happened in Oslo was almost immediately overtaken by the death of Winehouse at the bottom of a bottle, sums up the priorities of world media perfectly

#prayfornorway was the top trending topic (ie., the most commented one) in Twitter this morning.

It took less than an hour since Winehouse's death was announced for #amywinehouse to overtake it. And, you know, well over 90% of what is written in Twitter is done by ordinary people, just like me and you.

It's not priorities of global media, it's what people are interested in. It's always been like this, and it will always be.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 24 Jul 2011, 11:46

I'm sick of Charlie Whiting and his stupid SC starts.

Yes, I'm writing this before an official communication is given, and will be happy to eat my words.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 24 Jul 2011, 15:02

Martin Brundle saying "Vettel with one L" in response to Coulthard's different pronounciation of the name during the German GP really did my head in.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 24 Jul 2011, 17:53

Dear Pirelli why did your tyres last so long today.....

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 24 Jul 2011, 20:04

James1978 wrote:Martin Brundle saying "Vettel with one L" in response to Coulthard's different pronounciation of the name during the German GP really did my head in.

Brundle saying Guesstimate does my head in.

Guesstimate is not a real word.

RAK · Post by **RAK** » 24 Jul 2011, 20:17

redbulljack14 wrote:
James1978 wrote:Martin Brundle saying "Vettel with one L" in response to Coulthard's different pronounciation of the name during the German GP really did my head in.

Brundle saying Guesstimate does my head in.

Guesstimate is not a real word.

Perfect time for me to pull this one out:

http://xkcd.com/919/

Post by **mario** » 24 Jul 2011, 20:33

WeirdKerr wrote:Dear Pirelli why did your tyres last so long today.....

The tarmac is not especially abrasive at the Nurburgring and the loads on the tyres are not especially high, so that would have made a major difference to expected wear rates. On top of that, the engineers have been working quite hard on the design of their suspension systems - Ferrari, for example, have a quite interesting rear suspension set up that allows them to have a two stage damping system - along with various other changes to their set up to minimise tyre wear (reduced camber angles, for example, to prevent the inside shoulders of the tyre from overheating).

And to a certain extent, Pirelli want the tyres to last longer so that those on, say, on a one stop strategy against those trying two stops, actually have a chance of making it work. I kind of prefer the situation we had today - it provides enough of a difference in strategy and tyre wear to provide some interest there, and it made overtaking possible.
However, the drivers still had to work to make the pass; for example, Alonso's strategic use of KERS and the element of surprise to force his way past Vettel into Turn 1.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 24 Jul 2011, 21:51

Today's balance was pretty much okay. Remember the top guys still had to pit three times, and this is a place where the tyres were supposed to degrade less. No one even tried to do a Pérez.