JeremyMcClean wrote:stupot94 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18kbmVdzlkM&feature=fvwrel
What an arse
That should be placed in the "unpopular opinions" section
Raikkonen was extremely unlucky in 2003 and 2005 (and then got lucky in 2007)
Piquet Sr has been through a lot of crap through his career, also pwned Mansell frequently
Damon Hill didn't get his Williams drive for no reason, he had TALENT
Phil Hill had crappy cars before and after 1961, thus explaining his sudden uprising and sudden downfall
And Stefan Bellof was masked by crappy machinery in the 1985 season. That, and Tyrrell was DSQ'd in 1984, thus erasing Bellof's 8 points he earned that year. Plus, he usually scored very consistently, when he did finish, his career was usually marred by technical failures. (Shoot me if I'm wrong, I saw a lot of DNF's in Bellof's 1984 season)
I have to agree that a number of the comments that particular person are a little confusing - he seems to have made his opinion on a number of drivers based on their results alone, ignoring the context in which those results were achieved.
After all, take Phil Hill - yes, his results before 1961 are not great, although he was the leading points scorer for Ferrari at the time, but that was in part because the Ferrari 246 was outclassed by the up and coming British teams like Lotus and Cooper, and Ferrari would soon be out developed after 1961.
And I also have to agree on a number of the other drivers - Piquet Sr., though not the most likeable of characters, was a very competitive driver when given a decent car. Besides, Mansell, whilst perhaps not the greatest driver ever, still had plenty of guts - his victory at the Hungarian GP in 1989, or passing Gerhard Berger around the outside of the Peraltada in the 1990 Mexican GP, were the moves of a very confident driver.
As for Massa, yes, at times he has been beaten by his team mates at Ferrari - but, then again, he had to compete against a Micheal Schumacher who was still in his prime, Kimi Raikkonen before he lost his motivation in the sport, and Alonso, who is probably one of the best drivers in the field at the moment. Against that sort of competition, it's not surprising that he has been beaten by his team mates, when he has consistently had some of the strongest competitors in the sport up against him.
On top of that, if we are honest, it isn't easy to compete against your team mate when it is abundantly clear that you are forced to be subservient to him anyway, and the team is revolving around Alonso now.
Also, the comments about Bruce McLaren are quite harsh too - Bruce McLaren was more than just a "competent" driver. Yes, he was beaten by Sir Jack Brabham (although, given that Brabham was no slouch behind the wheel, there is no shame in that), and he was still able to finish in the top three in the championship on several occasions (for example, in 1962, when Graham Hill and Jim Clark were competing hammer and tongs for the entire season - and, without having to drop finishes, Bruce would have actually beaten Jim Clark to 2nd place). It didn't help either that Bruce was driving for Cooper at a time when they were sliding back down the field, at first slowly, and then more sharply after the founders of the company were hit by personal tragedies.
All in all, some quite unfair comments in that clip - but, then again, it was probably made in a deliberately provocative style simply to attract attention.
