The National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing thread

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 16 Feb 2012, 19:07

Need a place to view NASCAR team paintschemes for the upcoming season?

http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2012cup.htm

Check that out.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 18 Feb 2012, 00:09

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 19 Feb 2012, 01:47

I for the life of me can't figure out how Jeff Gordon made his way through that first wreck

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 19 Feb 2012, 06:32

Props to Ambrose for being there at the end and taking third, hopefully this result is a sign of things to come..

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 20 Feb 2012, 03:15

KUDOS to Kyle Busch for saving his car twice in the same spinning situation. He might be the Bad Boy of all racing this generation but he surely has the talent to race and win. Do you remember the rumor that he'd get a ride for USF1? :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 20 Feb 2012, 03:43

Correct me if I'm missing something but why is Ruetimann only 46th after qualifying?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 20 Feb 2012, 05:36

His team is crap

eichy · Post by **eichy** » 20 Feb 2012, 16:27

Wizzie wrote:Correct me if I'm missing something but why is Ruetimann only 46th after qualifying?

His team is full-on reject status, and he was dumped from his former team much like Trulli was, really late.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 20 Feb 2012, 16:31

eurobrun wrote:He is crap

Fixed

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 20 Feb 2012, 17:55

golic_2004 wrote:KUDOS to Kyle Busch for... Do you remember the rumour that he'd get a ride for USF1?

No... But might have been rather interesting...

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 20 Feb 2012, 18:17

Kyle Busch said he'd never go to F1 unless it was for one of the top two teams because F1 isn't as competitive as NASCAR is. Aside from the fact I believe he's correct, he has never seriously impressed me before that showing in the Bud Shootout. Holy crap, Batman, I thought Robby Gordon was driving that car that's how many awesome saves there were... :shock:

Generally speaking, I don't regard superspeedway success as a true test of driver talent in NASCAR, with a few exceptions. That was one of them. You want to know what Michael Waltrip spent his career doing despite his "success" at superspeedways? Here's some of his highlights, but I recall watching pretty much him doing the same in the 1990s on a regular basis. He's always had really good cars and just trundles around in the back, constantly finding new places to crash and fail... add on being the biggest prick in all of motorsports and one of the least talented drivers to win in anything more powerful than a go kart. Combine that, an annoying voice, 500 commercial appearances per race, and you've got easily the least likable personality I've ever seen.

Here's a little thing about qualifying at Daytona and Talladega; it doesn't determine talent at all. All you do is go around the outside of the track on lap one, and then on lap two hug the inside. Tony Stewart even said that a monkey could go out and do that back in like 2005 or something.

eichy wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Correct me if I'm missing something but why is Ruetimann only 46th after qualifying?

His team is full-on reject status, and he was dumped from his former team much like Trulli was, really late.

Coincidentally, both were dumped by people known to be very poor sports; Michael Waltrip was Reutimann's team owner, and Jarno Trulli was dropped by Tony Fernandes! The Burger King Racing team has one of the most BORING cars I've EVER seen, and honestly I don't expect a whole lot from them.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 20 Feb 2012, 20:31

i think it's because he knows that F1 is almost more politics than action. NASCAR is basically "have at it boys and girls" with small fines for eye gouging lol
a NASCAR stockcar is certainly tougher than an f1 chassis, that's for sure.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 23 Feb 2012, 21:28

The America-Israel Policestatemobile went out pretty early, so it's not running the 500.

Thankfully.

On another note...

GO HOME MICHAEL WALTRIP :evil:

deCrasheris · Post by **deCrasheris** » 24 Feb 2012, 02:16

I'm still wondering how did Micheal Waltrip crash by himself at Daytona :lol:

.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 24 Feb 2012, 03:18

Its a common crash in GT5, that is with X2010 and X2011. :geek:

The Kenny Wallace doc that was on speed a few days ago was interesting.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 24 Feb 2012, 08:15

nome66 wrote:i think it's because he knows that F1 is almost more politics than action. NASCAR is basically "have at it boys and girls" with small fines for eye gouging lol
a NASCAR stockcar is certainly tougher than an f1 chassis, that's for sure.

I find NASCAR very enjoyable even though I dont always know what the frick is going on!

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 24 Feb 2012, 10:17

deCrasheris wrote:I'm still wondering how did Micheal Waltrip crash by himself at Daytona .

Anyone that's played a NASCAR sim for 10 minutes knows not to do what he just did. I decided to troll him just for the fact that there is no driver I hate more than Michael Waltrip.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 25 Feb 2012, 05:33

Well, sporting news here in the states has exploded with NASCAR stories after Danica Patrick took pole for the Nationwide race at Daytona!

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 25 Feb 2012, 13:30

Pole in the minor league race, starting dead last in the one that counts, after having to buy a spot in the field no less. I think if she wins today, every TV in the America will explode. Shes getting more coverage than Obama right now (which may or may not be a bad thing).

As for questionable sponsorships, in the NHRA a sheik from Quatar own about a dozen teams, and the Yas Marina circuit (yup the F1 track) sponsors a TF dragster.

deCrasheris · Post by **deCrasheris** » 25 Feb 2012, 14:51

Wallio wrote:Pole in the minor league race, starting dead last in the one that counts, after having to buy a spot in the field no less. I think if she wins today, every TV in the America will explode. Shes getting more coverage than Obama right now (which may or may not be a bad thing).

As for questionable sponsorships, in the NHRA a sheik from Quatar own about a dozen teams, and the Yas Marina circuit (yup the F1 track) sponsors a TF dragster.

Speaking of questionable sponsorships, the 26 Front Row Motorsports Ford will have Rick Santorum's U.S presidential campaign sponsoring them for the Daytona 500.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 25 Feb 2012, 15:36

deCrasheris wrote:
Wallio wrote:Pole in the minor league race, starting dead last in the one that counts, after having to buy a spot in the field no less. I think if she wins today, every TV in the America will explode. Shes getting more coverage than Obama right now (which may or may not be a bad thing).

As for questionable sponsorships, in the NHRA a sheik from Quatar own about a dozen teams, and the Yas Marina circuit (yup the F1 track) sponsors a TF dragster.

Speaking of questionable sponsorships, the 26 Front Row Motorsports Ford will have Rick Santorum's U.S presidential campaign sponsoring them for the Daytona 500.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 25 Feb 2012, 19:18

deCrasheris wrote:
Wallio wrote:Pole in the minor league race, starting dead last in the one that counts, after having to buy a spot in the field no less. I think if she wins today, every TV in the America will explode. Shes getting more coverage than Obama right now (which may or may not be a bad thing).

As for questionable sponsorships, in the NHRA a sheik from Quatar own about a dozen teams, and the Yas Marina circuit (yup the F1 track) sponsors a TF dragster.

Speaking of questionable sponsorships, the 26 Front Row Motorsports Ford will have Rick Santorum's U.S presidential campaign sponsoring them for the Daytona 500.

Fun Fact: Gay activists trolled Rick Santorum by getting gay people to use the name Santorum to define ... something I won't talk about here.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 25 Feb 2012, 19:37

Nationwide Race on now...

...Danica has crashed out, rubbed by the Hellman's Mayonnaise car.

There is another lady taking part today, Johanna Long...

http://www.johannalong.com/

Not one word from the ESPN comms about her, spread the joy.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 25 Feb 2012, 19:39

ADx_Wales wrote:Nationwide Race on now...

...Danica has crashed out, rubbed by the Hellman's Mayonnaise car.

There is another lady taking part today, Johanna Long...

http://www.johannalong.com/

Not one word from the ESPN comms about her, spread the joy.

Johanna Long ran in trucks last year. She was fast but got in a lot of accidents -- some of her own making, most not. Either way, I considered no race complete until Johanna Long was involved in a caution.

She was infamously spun out in a straight line by Narain Karthikeyan (who interestingly needed that yellow really badly...) at Nashville I think.

Long's entry is notable for being owned by Mary Louise Miller -- making it the only female owner/female driver combo that I can think of!

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 25 Feb 2012, 20:35

Cynon wrote:I considered no race complete until Johanna Long was involved in a caution.

Ask, and you shall receive.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 25 Feb 2012, 20:49

The most harsh meaning of involvement too, a lot of queue barging there caused that big one.

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 25 Feb 2012, 20:52

Look out, here comes another one...

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 25 Feb 2012, 21:06

No good can come of people who Queue Barge...

...however , having seen the replay, the guy leading lost his bumpdraft buddy and decide to make a playstion on easy mode defence of the lead, which as we all know....

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 25 Feb 2012, 21:14

motorsport.com wrote:marry the team owners daughter = job security #nascar winning at datona helps too

Wild finish,I thought Brad tapped James as he was going past to take the win.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 25 Feb 2012, 22:23

Cynon wrote:
deCrasheris wrote:
Wallio wrote:Pole in the minor league race, starting dead last in the one that counts, after having to buy a spot in the field no less. I think if she wins today, every TV in the America will explode. Shes getting more coverage than Obama right now (which may or may not be a bad thing).

As for questionable sponsorships, in the NHRA a sheik from Quatar own about a dozen teams, and the Yas Marina circuit (yup the F1 track) sponsors a TF dragster.

Speaking of questionable sponsorships, the 26 Front Row Motorsports Ford will have Rick Santorum's U.S presidential campaign sponsoring them for the Daytona 500.

Fun Fact: Gay activists trolled Rick Santorum by getting gay people to use the name Santorum to define ... something I Pwon't talk about here.

Yea, my one coworker is gay and loves aharing that definition. It was for the longest time the first
result you got if you Googled Santorum. Its number 3 now. Also making the rounds is a reproduction of his old Senate headshot made from a collage of gay porn.

ESPN on their mobile site has an entire article of Danica's wreck, and no mention of the race winner. And people wonder why every race fan hates her?

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 25 Feb 2012, 22:30

It sums up everything that's wrong about American motorsport when everyone creams their pants when "Darling Danica" does anything of any significance.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 25 Feb 2012, 22:35

Cynon wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:Nationwide Race on now...

...Danica has crashed out, rubbed by the Hellman's Mayonnaise car.

There is another lady taking part today, Johanna Long...

http://www.johannalong.com/

Not one word from the ESPN comms about her, spread the joy.

Johanna Long ran in trucks last year. She was fast but got in a lot of accidents -- some of her own making, most not. Either way, I considered no race complete until Johanna Long was involved in a caution.

She was infamously spun out in a straight line by Narain Karthikeyan (who interestingly needed that yellow really badly...) at Nashville I think.

Long's entry is notable for being owned by Mary Louise Miller -- making it the only female owner/female driver combo that I can think of!

She happens to be from the same city I'm from, so she get's quite a bit of coverage in the local newspapers over here. Of course, she doesn't get any attention from the international scene, showing how biased the coverage is to Patrick. (They love a poster child.) I don't know much about Long's racing career though. She did win the Snowball Derby back in 2010. (The Monaco of lower class stock car racing.) The only other notable racing driver I know from this area is NASCAR reject Eddie Mercer, a local car dealer who I think had a couple privateer runs in Daytona. But my NASCAR knowledge is a little rough so feel free to correct me on anything I have wrong.

deCrasheris · Post by **deCrasheris** » 26 Feb 2012, 00:07

AndreaModa wrote:It sums up everything that's wrong about American motorsport when everyone creams their pants when "Darling Danica" does anything of any significance.

Indeed it is pretty sad that the American media looks at it as Danica and 42 other drivers. I personally think she's a good driver, but the media attention that surrounds her can be unbearable at times and makes me wish that every race that she's in that she would be out on the first lap so the Danica coverage of the show would be over.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 26 Feb 2012, 00:26

AndreaModa wrote:It sums up everything that's wrong about American motorsport when everyone creams their pants when "Darling Danica" does anything of any significance.

NASCAR commentators wrote:OH NOEZ DANICA HAS CRASHED, What are we going to talk about now??

eichy · Post by **eichy** » 26 Feb 2012, 01:53

AndreaModa wrote:It sums up everything that's wrong about American motorsport when everyone creams their pants when "Darling Danica" does anything of any significance.

You don't think that that has ever occured in F1? It's not an American-only thing.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 26 Feb 2012, 02:20

eichy wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:It sums up everything that's wrong about American motorsport when everyone creams their pants when "Darling Danica" does anything of any significance.

You don't think that that has ever occured in F1? It's not an American-only thing.

Name me one driver in F1 who is so fanatically followed by the press the way Danica Patrick is.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 26 Feb 2012, 02:53

Lewis Hamilton in his first two seasons.

EuroSport's CART coverage went berserk any time Mark Blundell did anything worth noting and were practically in tears whenever he or Dario Franchitti wrecked out. It's why I loathe watching the British commentators for CART races.

Danicamania is pretty damn ridiculous, but NASCAR is FAR WORSE about it than IndyCar ever was. Being on a few NASCAR related forums, people get REALLY pissed any time Danica does anything right. Needless to say they unintentionally feed the trolls... :lol:

In other words, I actively want Danica to win the Daytona 500 because the rage that will cause will be hilarious.

Yes, I'm a total dick.

deCrasheris · Post by **deCrasheris** » 26 Feb 2012, 03:22

Cynon, I think Danica has a better chance of winning the Reject of the Race than winning the Daytona 500

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DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 26 Feb 2012, 03:39

deCrasheris wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:It sums up everything that's wrong about American motorsport when everyone creams their pants when "Darling Danica" does anything of any significance.

Indeed it is pretty sad that the American media looks at it as Danica and 42 other drivers. I personally think she's a good driver, but the media attention that surrounds her can be unbearable at times and makes me wish that every race that she's in that she would be out on the first lap so the Danica coverage of the show would be over.

Exactly how I feel about her. I'm sure deep down inside, there is a good driver, but the attention on her is just unbearable. I mean, it's not like she was the only woman do well in motorsport. Why not celebrate over someone more noble, like Michele Mouton? Someone who I think was more of a true racer, and less of a showboater. (Or at least someone that isn't overrated.)

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 26 Feb 2012, 08:18

deCrasheris wrote:Cynon, I think Danica has a better chance of winning the Reject of the Race than winning the Daytona 500 .

You clearly don't realize David Ragan and David Gilliland are in the field... and the fact that half the drivers think their engines going to blow up before the end...