The HRT thread

solarcold · Post by **solarcold** » 19 Mar 2012, 04:37

I told you. I crackin told dr. Kolles shouldn't have gone home.

LionZoo · Post by **LionZoo** » 19 Mar 2012, 05:28

Spending all my nights
All my money putting parts on the car
Doing anything just to get you off of my mind
But when the weekend comes
I'm right back where I started again
Trying to replace you is just a waste of time

Colin come back, any kind of fan could see
There was something, in everything about you
Colin come back, you can blame it all on me
I was wrong, and I just can't race without you

All season long, releasing PR of false bravado
Trying to wear the helmet that hides a tear
But as the race goes on
I get that empty feeling again
How I wish to God that you were here

Colin come back, any kind of fan could see
There was something, in everything about you
Colin come back, you can blame it all on me
I was wrong, and I just can't race without you

Now that the car is all together
Give me the chance to make you see
Have you used up all the cash for your team
Nothing left for me
Ain't there nothing left for me

Colin come back, any kind of fan could see
There was something, in everything about you
Colin come back, you can blame it all on me
I was wrong, and I just can't race without you

I was wrong, and I just can't race without you

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 22 Mar 2012, 09:13

So, in case anyone was wondering what KH-7 was, they're a cleaning products company!

Look! :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID-8lng0eZg&feature=player_embedded

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 22 Mar 2012, 09:26

Things are going to change now!
http://www.mid-day.com/sports/2012/mar/ ... physio.htm

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 22 Mar 2012, 21:43

CoopsII wrote:Things are going to change now!
http://www.mid-day.com/sports/2012/mar/ ... physio.htm

Wait, Sakon Yamamoto isn't driving for HRT this year? With news like that you would think dodge-y neck would be driving for them

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 22 Mar 2012, 22:43

David AGS wrote:Lets hope for the team that Malaysia is better.

I hope it too. I wish to see at least DLR on the grid next Sunday.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Mar 2012, 23:21

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] wrote:
David AGS wrote:Lets hope for the team that Malaysia is better.

I hope it too. I wish to see at least DLR on the grid next Sunday.

Would be nice to see the Docklands Light Railway back on track again... :roll:

xxiiooiixx · Post by **xxiiooiixx** » 22 Mar 2012, 23:31

HRT are the next Brawn GP :twisted:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Mar 2012, 23:38

xxiiooiixx wrote:HRT are the next Brawn GP

Huh?

slowest_indian · Post by **slowest_indian** » 22 Mar 2012, 23:39

Well considering they now have the parts to make the DRS work, and the powersteering should be fixed, you would hope they'd manage to make 107%
If not they really do seem to have gone backwards from last year, although I suppose in 2011 they had an extra two weeks with Bahrain being cancelled...

Anyway Holzer have stated that the car is pretty heavy in comparison to the rest of the grid, and the first updates are coming in Barcelona which includes a lighter version of the car, whatever that may be.

Cheers

S951 · Post by **S951** » 22 Mar 2012, 23:40

dlr to outquali pic

IdeFan · Post by **IdeFan** » 23 Mar 2012, 01:13

The HRT topic on another forum I occasionally visit is insultingly titled "The Hispania death clock" and as a reject lover I found this offensive. Therefore I have decided to respond with the "HRT Victory Clock".

The clock is an analogue of the Doomsday Clock where midnight represents doomsday (or in this case, a race victory for HRT), with the DNQs in Australia the Victory clock has been set on 59 minutes to midnight, I hope to move it slightly forward if we get a stronger qualifying in Malaysia.

I also hope that, just like the passing of time, that an HRT victory is inevitable!

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 23 Mar 2012, 02:46

45 minutes into the first practice session at Sepang and an HRT has ground to a halt.

All is normal with the universe.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 23 Mar 2012, 03:53

Seems Karthikeyan had gearbox problems causing him to stop, whilst De La Rosa was just simply slow...

David AGS · Post by **David AGS** » 23 Mar 2012, 06:52

CoopsII wrote:Things are going to change now!
http://www.mid-day.com/sports/2012/mar/ ... physio.htm

I can recall him in the HRT pit as early in Australia last year. If it helps why not!

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 23 Mar 2012, 07:24

Major improvement today...

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 23 Mar 2012, 07:31

They'll surely qualify with pace like this. Fingers crossed!

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 23 Mar 2012, 07:40

David AGS wrote:
CoopsII wrote:Things are going to change now!
http://www.mid-day.com/sports/2012/mar/ ... physio.htm

I can recall him in the HRT pit as early in Australia last year. If it helps why not!

I say stick him in the car.

slowest_indian · Post by **slowest_indian** » 23 Mar 2012, 08:17

Valrys wrote:They'll surely qualify with pace like this. Fingers crossed!

Aye, almost a couple of seconds within 107% in FP2.
Still, about a second or more off Virgin, going to be a lonely race if the cars manage the whole distance...

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 23 Mar 2012, 08:20

Don't think HRT did any quali runs, I think Marussia did at the end... Clos mentioned that on Spanish TV

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 23 Mar 2012, 09:31

Their main goal has to be qualifying. Doesn't matter if they're miles behind Marussia during the race. They need the mileage badly.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 23 Mar 2012, 09:39

AdrianSutil wrote:Doesn't matter if they're miles behind Marussia during the race.

Yup, they'll soon get past them during the pit-stop phase.

Assuming they put the wheels back on right.

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 23 Mar 2012, 11:56

cbbcisace wrote:Don't think HRT did any quali runs, I think Marussia did at the end... Clos mentioned that on Spanish TV

De La Rosa definitely ran the medium tyre for at least one run, although not right at the end of the session.

solarcold · Post by **solarcold** » 23 Mar 2012, 17:42

Updates from Russia. Here's the poll among russian f1 Fans in russian social web vk.com:

The question translates as follows: "How do you think will HRT get inside 107%?"
Yes - 44, no - 44. Now we know what the most difficult question in F1 is.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 23 Mar 2012, 18:17

Valrys wrote:
cbbcisace wrote:Don't think HRT did any quali runs, I think Marussia did at the end... Clos mentioned that on Spanish TV

De La Rosa definitely ran the medium tyre for at least one run, although not right at the end of the session.

Yes he did run the medium tyre but on higher fuel loads.

HRT quickest time in FP1 was 105.6%, which I don't think they ever achieved in 2011..

It goes to show how limited the Dallara chassis was.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 23 Mar 2012, 22:47

Some calculations for you on the 107% times!...

FP1 Pole Time: 1'38'021s
FP1 107% Time: 1'44'882s
FP1 HRT Quickest Time: 1'45'360s
Difference: +'448s

FP2 Pole Time: 1'38'172s
FP2 107% Time: 1'45.044s
FP2 HRT Quickest Time: 1'43'658s
Difference: -1'386s

Hypothetically for HRT's 1'43'658s in FP3 or Q1 not to be quick enough would take a Pole Time of 1'36'877s

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Mar 2012, 22:58

cbbcisace wrote:Hypothetically for HRT's 1'43'658s in FP3 or Q1 not to be quick enough would take a Pole Time of 1'36'877s

Incidentally enough, the fastest Q1 time last year by Felipe Massa was a 1:36.744 BUT I think it's safe to say that this year's cars are significantly slower than last year if Australia was anything to go by

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 23 Mar 2012, 23:07

Wizzie wrote:
cbbcisace wrote:Hypothetically for HRT's 1'43'658s in FP3 or Q1 not to be quick enough would take a Pole Time of 1'36'877s

Incidentally enough, the fastest Q1 time last year by Felipe Massa was a 1:36.744 BUT I think it's safe to say that this year's cars are significantly slower than last year if Australia was anything to go by

And I expect the HRT time to be quicker anyway... isn't it good to see the whole field covered by 5 seconds though isn't it?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Mar 2012, 23:11

cbbcisace wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
cbbcisace wrote:Hypothetically for HRT's 1'43'658s in FP3 or Q1 not to be quick enough would take a Pole Time of 1'36'877s

Incidentally enough, the fastest Q1 time last year by Felipe Massa was a 1:36.744 BUT I think it's safe to say that this year's cars are significantly slower than last year if Australia was anything to go by

And I expect the HRT time to be quicker anyway... isn't it good to see the whole field covered by 5 seconds though isn't it?

On slightly closer analysis, year on year, race pace across the field was virtually the same but qualifying pace was well over a second off Vettel's blistering lap last year.

cbbcisace · Post by **cbbcisace** » 24 Mar 2012, 09:14

Good News for HRT... The Q1 time was 1'36'219 and the 107% time is 1'42'954.

That means HRT (PDLR) are within 107% of pole where as a lot of people thought they wouldn't make 107%of Q1 !!

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 24 Mar 2012, 09:17

It looks like this website's prestigious award may well go to "all the naysayers who said HRT would not qualify at all in 2012".

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 24 Mar 2012, 09:21

Yannick wrote:It looks like this website's prestigious award may well go to "all the naysayers who said HRT would not qualify at all in 2012".

Actually, the vast majority of us thought before last weekend that HRT would the ones taking Marussia to the cleaners and back :lol:

IdeFan · Post by **IdeFan** » 24 Mar 2012, 11:43

Wizzie wrote:
Yannick wrote:It looks like this website's prestigious award may well go to "all the naysayers who said HRT would not qualify at all in 2012".

Actually, the vast majority of us thought before last weekend that HRT would the ones taking Marussia to the cleaners and back

Yes but we're special like this, its other people on other websites who don't understand!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 24 Mar 2012, 11:48

IdeFan wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Yannick wrote:It looks like this website's prestigious award may well go to "all the naysayers who said HRT would not qualify at all in 2012".

Actually, the vast majority of us thought before last weekend that HRT would the ones taking Marussia to the cleaners and back

Yes but we're special like this, its other people on other websites who don't understand!

Ah, those sad and delusional normal F1 fans

xxiiooiixx · Post by **xxiiooiixx** » 24 Mar 2012, 14:44

IdeFan wrote:The HRT topic on another forum I occasionally visit is insultingly titled "The Hispania death clock" and as a reject lover I found this offensive. Therefore I have decided to respond with the "HRT Victory Clock".

The clock is an analogue of the Doomsday Clock where midnight represents doomsday (or in this case, a race victory for HRT), with the DNQs in Australia the Victory clock has been set on 59 minutes to midnight, I hope to move it slightly forward if we get a stronger qualifying in Malaysia.

I also hope that, just like the passing of time, that an HRT victory is inevitable!

Sounds good you can also base your measurement on each time HRT scores its fastest lap ever . The fastest lap can be determined by the gap between the specific tracks fastest time/races fastest time and HRT's fastest lap.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 24 Mar 2012, 16:08

Yannick wrote:It looks like this website's prestigious award may well go to "all the naysayers who said HRT would not qualify at all in 2012".

Shall I call them 'nimbies'? :evil:

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 24 Mar 2012, 16:30

Ok, I've done something like that. I've taken every single dry qualifying session since 2010 and calculated HRT's fastest time compared with pole position time. I didn't take Q1 "pole" time because it's not always as representative of the best cars performance.

According with this measuring stick, HRT's highlight so far was Karun Chandhok's qualifying effort at the 2010 European GP, where his fastest time of 1:42.600 was just 5,14% over Vettel's pole time. Last year's best result for HRT was at the Korean GP, where Daniel Ricciardo was within 6,26% of Vettel (1:44.641).

105,14% of today's pole time was 1:41.165, just to get the picture.

xxiiooiixx · Post by **xxiiooiixx** » 24 Mar 2012, 18:12

Ferrim wrote:Ok, I've done something like that. I've taken every single dry qualifying session since 2010 and calculated HRT's fastest time compared with pole position time. I didn't take Q1 "pole" time because it's not always as representative of the best cars performance.

According with this measuring stick, HRT's highlight so far was Karun Chandhok's qualifying effort at the 2010 European GP, where his fastest time of 1:42.600 was just 5,14% over Vettel's pole time. Last year's best result for HRT was at the Korean GP, where Daniel Ricciardo was within 6,26% of Vettel (1:44.641).

105,14% of today's pole time was 1:41.165, just to get the picture.

Wow This is a really interesting topic I am going to look into this more !!! So Karun Chandhok you have the HRT Crown for now , who's the fastest indian now NK??

David AGS · Post by **David AGS** » 25 Mar 2012, 01:05

On results, Narain is still the better, but wouldnt call that race a race...

On to Malaysia, I think if HRT get a two car finish they will be extremely delighted. One car finish they will be very happy with that too.

But you never know, if it does rain, may be a race of attrition, may get a decent result

xxiiooiixx · Post by **xxiiooiixx** » 25 Mar 2012, 11:43

David AGS wrote:On results, Narain is still the better, but wouldnt call that race a race...

On to Malaysia, I think if HRT get a two car finish they will be extremely delighted. One car finish they will be very happy with that too.

But you never know, if it does rain, may be a race of attrition, may get a decent result

It doesn't look as if the F112 will be any better then last years car .PDLR had a horrible race.