Pamphlet wrote:How? Nobody said that it wasn't a bad move, but for 2/3 of the year the Williams was easily the better car. And Schuey undeservedly took the brunt of Benetton's fall that year.
Yes, because Jacques Villeneuve and Heinz-Harald Frentzen were such
brilliant drivers...
JV could have wrapped up the title at Suzuka had he not ignored yellows in practise. But he did,
as did Schumacher. Yet JV was the only driver penalised. It was also quite foolish of them to race under appeal rather than just accept the penalty and get on with it. JV's problem was lack of consistency, he made mistakes which caused more DNFs than Schumacher and would either win or just scrape the points.
Pamphlet wrote:Are you seriously going to deny the fact that he nearly won the championship with a car that was two full tiers below the Williams just because of that? By all means, remember what Senna did in 1990. He had the better car that year, yet he, too, had to murderously ram Prost off the road to win.
I said Senna was fast. If you had been here for a long time you would also be aware of my opinion of Senna in regards to 1990. What he did was selfish and reckless. That deserves a WDC DSQ. He could have killed Prost doing that.
And please, define 'two full tiers' to me, how does that work exactly? Just because Verstappen, Letho & Herbert couldn't figure out how to get the B194 switched on properly for themselves, it must mean Schumacher was driving it beyond its limits? Don't think so.
Pamphlet wrote:And how about 1998? Schumacher should have been nowhere near Hakkinen that year, yet just like in 1994 and 1997 he took the fight to the very final race.
Indeed he shouldn't have been, because he gained a valuable 10 points at Silverstone on a technicality. Had the penalty been issued in time what Schumacher did would have been cheating.
Also, Mika was a brilliant qualifier, he flattered the race pace of the McLaren somewhat in the same manner that Jarno Trulli made Toyota look great years later.
Pamphlet wrote:This seals the deal. You never watched those seasons. He did not have the best car in 2003, and in 2001 the McLaren was on par.
Ok, so because I don't have perfect recall of something that happened nine years ago, I must have never seen it?
Ferrari had the equal best car in 2003 with BMW Williams. But Montoya and Ralf Schumacher had far too many off-days to capitalise on the great car they had underneath them. So Schumacher's consistent when given a good car, I'll give him that, doesn't make him superemely talented.
Pamphlet wrote:Luck. It's the only reason he was beaten in 2011 and is being beaten in 2012. How do you explain the fact that Vettel only just won the championship in 2010?
He was outscored by an exact ratio of 2:1 in 2010. If any other driver scores half as many points as their team-mate, they're prime candiates for the sack. His name kept him the seat for the following year. He was closer to him the following year yes, but we're talking about Nico Rosberg here, not a world champion...
Pamphlet wrote:As for "form", by all means, remember 1990 and 1992. Especially 1992, where Senna was nearly beaten by freaking Berger.
You could see his mind wasn't there. He was becoming tired of McLaren falling behind Williams. You could SEE it from the behind-the-scenes footage of the McLaren garage in '92-'93. He almost left at the end of that season! Senna is not perfect, he is incredibly skilled, but not perfect. If you're so surprised an off-kilter Senna was beaten by a content Berger that's your issue and no-one else's.
Pamphlet wrote:To be fair, I shouldn't even be surprised anymore. It's a long standing fact that moderately young British F1 fans have no idea what they're talking about. People bash me for generalizing, but you give me all the reason in the world to keep doing it.
Long standing fact? What exactly is factual about the above statement? No, this is typical arrogance from the older generation, I see it everyday when they do something so simple so blatantly wrong and I turn up to fix the mess they have made. They don't like the fact the younger generation is standing on its own two feet and challenging them toe-to-toe. Get used to it, we're not going anywhere, and we're not accepting your baseless, brash and over-zealous statements.
