Kobayashi

Keirdre · Post by **Keirdre** » 18 Oct 2009, 19:02

What a great debut. Apart from the JAPAN ATTACK on Nakajima, he was brilliant. That may well clinch Toyota's entry for next year.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 18 Oct 2009, 19:07

I'd love to see him again! Drive of the day for me.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 18 Oct 2009, 19:09

Surprising, to say the least. I'll even argue the move in Nakajima wasn't the stupidest thing I've seen all race; indeed, except for the crash, it wasn't really that different that Webber-on-Raikkonen in lap 1.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Oct 2009, 19:11

As I've said previously, by going out and fighting as he has, he's already proved himself to be one of the top two newcomers of the season, with possibly only Buemi managing to edge him out. A fantastic drive, especially considering how hard it has been for mid-season replacements this year.

I'd say he's single-handedly ended any chance of Nakajima staying in F1 right now.

razta · Post by **razta** » 18 Oct 2009, 19:21

What a GUY! made the race THAT much more exciting :lol:

watka · Post by **watka** » 18 Oct 2009, 19:27

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=569 - What did I say?

OK, Kobayashi did have to chop Nakajima in order to beat him, but he was a match for him on pace. It was a little disappointing to see he wasn't in the points, because he was fast enough early on to earn some, I don't know if there was any damage from the Nakajima crash that affected him. He was a real fighter though, compare his defense to Grosjean's, even if he was weaving. Look forward to seeing him again in the future with any luck.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 18 Oct 2009, 19:36

Dear Toyota,

Do something relevant, for once: throw Truli away, sign Glock up and keep Cowboy-ashi.

Best,

Carlos

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 18 Oct 2009, 19:54

"Mr Kobayashi", as Brundle decided to refer to him all day, was indeed a pleasant surprise. I'd certainly welcome his presence on the grid next year.

lostpin · Post by **lostpin** » 18 Oct 2009, 20:40

Well, this reminds me of Nakajima on his debut race in Brasil, two years ago when he showed a lot of promise. Pity that it faded afterwards. I hope that doesn't happen with Kobayashi who drove outstandingly..

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 18 Oct 2009, 20:44

He is without doubt the greatest Grand Prix driver that motor racing has ever produced.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 18 Oct 2009, 20:51

I have a feeling I'm going to love to watch Kobayashi if he stays around. He showed he has a lot of talent as well as some big cajones.

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » 18 Oct 2009, 21:57

I bloody love this guy, the way he fought Button was impressive and that pass down the outside of Nakajima was one of the moves of the season. And he seemed like a nice guy in the interviews he did, I'm looking forward to seeing him in Abu Dhabi and in 2010.

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 18 Oct 2009, 22:29

He was entertaining, but his etiquette when defending his position has to be looked at. He was weaving around a lot, and that ended up causing a big crash for Nakajima. I agree that I'd like to see him stay, but he might not be too popular with the other drivers if he continues to defend in this way.

Jack O Malley · Post by **Jack O Malley** » 18 Oct 2009, 22:37

I absolutely LOVED his drive! Ferrari should kick Alonso :twisted:

Winterspring · Post by **Winterspring** » 18 Oct 2009, 22:55

Loved his racing today/yesterday but the blocking on Nakajima ruined both their races and Kaz and Kobi looked good for points and that duel between them with Vettel behind them was really good.

He has to be there next year and I think Toyota realise it and If Glock doesn't go to Toyota and If Kaz takes over then we can have another A better Super Aguri team

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 19 Oct 2009, 00:26

Winterspring wrote:Loved his racing today/yesterday but the blocking on Nakajima ruined both their races and Kaz and Kobi looked good for points and that duel between them with Vettel behind them was really good.

He has to be there next year and I think Toyota realise it and If Glock doesn't go to Toyota and If Kaz takes over then we can have another A better Super Aguri team

You're not suggesting that Toyota will be interesting for more than one race, are you? That's almost as heretical as speaking HIS name!!

But I have to agree, Nakajima + Kobayashi at Toyota will make them a lot of fun to watch, and it will help that team in the eyes of the fans as well... perhaps even in Japan they will gain some following.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 19 Oct 2009, 00:35

Cynon wrote:
Winterspring wrote:Loved his racing today/yesterday but the blocking on Nakajima ruined both their races and Kaz and Kobi looked good for points and that duel between them with Vettel behind them was really good.

He has to be there next year and I think Toyota realise it and If Glock doesn't go to Toyota and If Kaz takes over then we can have another A better Super Aguri team

You're not suggesting that Toyota will be interesting for more than one race, are you? That's almost as heretical as speaking HIS name!!

But I have to agree, Nakajima + Kobayashi at Toyota will make them a lot of fun to watch, and it will help that team in the eyes of the fans as well... perhaps even in Japan they will gain some following.

... but they'd be lucky as hell to get 20 points on the season.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 19 Oct 2009, 00:35

Kobayashi, HWNSNBM the second?

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 19 Oct 2009, 00:59

tristan1117 wrote:Kobayashi, HWNSNBM the second?

He needs to get his one point that sends the Japanese announcers into a fervor first.

RejectSteve · Post by **RejectSteve** » 19 Oct 2009, 03:49

Cynon wrote:I have a feeling I'm going to love to watch Kobayashi if he stays around. He showed he has a lot of talent as well as some big cajones.

Take Kobayashi out of that sentence and replace it with Sato. Does this sound familiar from 2002 and 2004? He might be a little erratic, but given his circumstances in effectly a guest drive, what did he have to lose? Might as well go out, race hard, and see what happens. His defense against Nakajima was a bit much but as somebody else wrote (sorry, I can't be bothered to check at the moment) it was the same as the Webber-Raikkonen move.

Kobayashi is to Toyota as Sato is to Honda. If Toyota don't sign him, they should fund Mr. Katayama a team for the sole purpose of racing Kamui. Super Ukyo! :lol:

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 19 Oct 2009, 06:47

RejectSteve wrote:Kobayashi is to Toyota as Sato is to Honda. If Toyota don't sign him, they should fund Mr. Katayama a team for the sole purpose of racing Kamui. Super Ukyo!

That would, of course, be the best Grand Prix team that motor racing has ever produced.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 19 Oct 2009, 10:21

they could call it BANZAI F1......

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 19 Oct 2009, 12:32

RejectSteve wrote: If Toyota don't sign him, they should fund Mr. Katayama a team for the sole purpose of racing Kamui. Super Ukyo!

In Japan, drivers and workers are traditionally associated with big companies for life, e.g. Takuma Sato is a Honda man, like Satoru Nakajima.

Ukyo Katayama on the other hand, used to be a Yamaha man.

The only one I remember that switched sides was Sakon Yamamoto. He started out as a Toyota man, which went so far as testing the Jordan/Midland/Spyker/MF1. Then, Honda man Yuji Ide lost his superlicense, and Sakon was picked up by SuperAguri, becoming a Honda man.

LukeB · Post by **LukeB** » 19 Oct 2009, 17:43

shinji wrote:He is without doubt the greatest Grand Prix driver that motor racing has ever produced.

Pfft, wasn't that the man, the myth, the legend, "Tiger" Takagi?
Kobayashi is Taku 2: Electric Boogaloo.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 19 Oct 2009, 17:46

LukeB wrote:
shinji wrote:He is without doubt the greatest Grand Prix driver that motor racing has ever produced.

Pfft, wasn't that the man, the myth, the legend, "Tiger" Takagi?
Kobayashi is Taku 2: Electric Boogaloo.

It was Ukyo "Ukyo" Katayama. And yes, the similarities between Taku and Kamu have been well documented.

LukeB · Post by **LukeB** » 19 Oct 2009, 17:52

You sir clearly retain obscure information like a camel retains water (while I'm more like a one of those things that you drain water through, damned if I can remember what they're called...)

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 19 Oct 2009, 18:06

LukeB wrote:You sir clearly retain obscure information like a camel retains water (while I'm more like a one of those things that you drain water through, damned if I can remember what they're called...)

A pipe?

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 19 Oct 2009, 18:11

CarlosFerreira wrote:
LukeB wrote:You sir clearly retain obscure information like a camel retains water (while I'm more like a one of those things that you drain water through, damned if I can remember what they're called...)

A pipe?

No. A sieve, if I'm not mistaken. More useless information.

RejectSteve · Post by **RejectSteve** » 19 Oct 2009, 21:13

Yannick wrote:
RejectSteve wrote: If Toyota don't sign him, they should fund Mr. Katayama a team for the sole purpose of racing Kamui. Super Ukyo!

In Japan, drivers and workers are traditionally associated with big companies for life, e.g. Takuma Sato is a Honda man, like Satoru Nakajima.

Ukyo Katayama on the other hand, used to be a Yamaha man.

Katayama raced for Toyota at Le Mans so I'll stick with that

Mister Fungus · Post by **Mister Fungus** » 20 Oct 2009, 09:16

I want this guy in F1, if not for youtube clips of japanese commentators going crazy.

Ferrim · Post by **Ferrim** » 20 Oct 2009, 15:34

Undoubtedly!!! It was UNDOUBTEDLY, not "without doubt"!!!

Misquoting Murray is one of the worst offences you can commit. Only him is allowed to misquote himself.

You have been warned.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 21 Oct 2009, 13:09

Oh man, if this guy gets a drive (and I'm sure he will sometime, if not next year) i'm definitely going to be his fan. Judging from this topic, it seems (fortunately) I'm not the only one.

This notwithstanding I still want to see Sato back in F1. Might we see him at Lotus next year? (He's going to get a 3rd place for Lotus at the 2012 Japanese Grand Prix in my fantasy-F1-thingy, if he doesn't retire...)

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 21 Oct 2009, 20:52

I like this guy, he actually made Toyota exciting for once, I would love to see him in F1, he's way better than Nakajima. It's a shame Williams aren't using Toyota engines next year or he could partner Rosberg.

Many Blue Flags · Post by **Many Blue Flags** » 21 Oct 2009, 22:55

RejectSteve wrote:In Japan, drivers and workers are traditionally associated with big companies for life, e.g. Takuma Sato is a Honda man, like Satoru Nakajima.

...

Katayama raced for Toyota at Le Mans so I'll stick with that

Depends what series you make it out to be. Youichi Imamura drove for a team with a Mazda RX-7 for years but kept a Nissan Silvia as his own private car, and switched to Silvias when A'Pexi dropped him.

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » 24 Oct 2009, 00:05

Are we so used to the stewards' inane scrutiny of the rulebook over every tiny move on-track that we've forgotten what racing is all about? Hell, Cowboy-ashi is a breath of fresh air in a room full of stale, processional drivers. So he moved over on Button and closed the door on Nakajima. Welcome to racing, boys; this is the stuff we tune in for.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 25 Oct 2009, 02:29

Socrates wrote:Are we so used to the stewards' inane scrutiny of the rulebook over every tiny move on-track that we've forgotten what racing is all about? Hell, Cowboy-ashi is a breath of fresh air in a room full of stale, processional drivers. So he moved over on Button and closed the door on Nakajima. Welcome to racing, boys; this is the stuff we tune in for.

Agreed. It was nice to see a driver with aggression. I was wondering if that had been phased out of F1...

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 25 Oct 2009, 09:05

Socrates wrote:Are we so used to the stewards' inane scrutiny of the rulebook over every tiny move on-track that we've forgotten what racing is all about? Hell, Cowboy-ashi is a breath of fresh air in a room full of stale, processional drivers. So he moved over on Button and closed the door on Nakajima. Welcome to racing, boys; this is the stuff we tune in for.

I don't think many people were criticising him, most held the same point of view as you.

(When I saw your username, the first person I though of was this guy -

. I really need to learn my Greek philosophy.

LukeB · Post by **LukeB** » 25 Oct 2009, 11:58

Or watch more 80s movies

Socrates · Post by **Socrates** » 26 Oct 2009, 18:09

shinji wrote:
Socrates wrote:Are we so used to the stewards' inane scrutiny of the rulebook over every tiny move on-track that we've forgotten what racing is all about? Hell, Cowboy-ashi is a breath of fresh air in a room full of stale, processional drivers. So he moved over on Button and closed the door on Nakajima. Welcome to racing, boys; this is the stuff we tune in for.

I don't think many people were criticising him, most held the same point of view as you.

(When I saw your username, the first person I though of was this guy - . I really need to learn my Greek philosophy.

The post wasn't directed at any one poster in particular, but rather a general sort of thing directed at a good many forum posters, 'talking heads' and article hacks out 'there' that have been more concerned with Kob's minor foibles than with his fighting spirit.

crazydude1992 · Post by **crazydude1992** » 27 Oct 2009, 10:15

Guys, from what Ive heard Glock wont race in Abu Dhabi either, so the next race wont be too boring. :mrgreen: