Hypotheticals: President YOU
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Okay, hypothetical situation: the Presidential elections are a farce and neither Vatanen nor Todt are declared President of the FIA. Through some overly-convulted twist of fate, you have somehow been called up to drop whatever it is that you're doing and go to Paris to be the new President of the FIA.
So, here's the quetion - what would you do as the President?
Personally, I would fire Hermann Tilke and replace him with an eight year old and a Scalectrix set. Failing that, I would relax all the regulations on circuit design, give Tilke first pick of whatever plot of land he wanted when a new race comes about and give him a licence to go nuts.
Also, in the event of a championship going down to the final round, I would cancel all pre-race entertainment and have everyone on the grd perform Michael Jackson's Thriller.
So, here's the quetion - what would you do as the President?
Personally, I would fire Hermann Tilke and replace him with an eight year old and a Scalectrix set. Failing that, I would relax all the regulations on circuit design, give Tilke first pick of whatever plot of land he wanted when a new race comes about and give him a licence to go nuts.
Also, in the event of a championship going down to the final round, I would cancel all pre-race entertainment and have everyone on the grd perform Michael Jackson's Thriller.
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Give Sebastian Loeb the superlicense.
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I'd have local designers do the tracks, then have an expert tidy them up to Formula 1 standards, to give F1 a proper international flavour, as recently posited on another thread.
Install regular impartial stewards for consistency.
Whip the Woking Overtaking Group a bit harder.
Ban the drivers from changing their bloody helmet colours all the time. Yes, I'm talking to you, Fernando. One driver = one helmet design. Special dispensation for local and/or celebratory race one-offs.
And that's actually about it.
Install regular impartial stewards for consistency.
Whip the Woking Overtaking Group a bit harder.
Ban the drivers from changing their bloody helmet colours all the time. Yes, I'm talking to you, Fernando. One driver = one helmet design. Special dispensation for local and/or celebratory race one-offs.
And that's actually about it.
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I'd have local designers do the tracks, then have an expert tidy them up to Formula 1 standards, to give F1 a proper international flavour, as recently posited on another thread.
Install regular impartial stewards for consistency.
Whip the Woking Overtaking Group a bit harder.
Ban the drivers from changing their bloody helmet colours all the time. Yes, I'm talking to you, Fernando. One driver = one helmet design. Special dispensation for local and/or celebratory race one-offs.
And that's actually about it.
Install regular impartial stewards for consistency.
Whip the Woking Overtaking Group a bit harder.
Ban the drivers from changing their bloody helmet colours all the time. Yes, I'm talking to you, Fernando. One driver = one helmet design. Special dispensation for local and/or celebratory race one-offs.
And that's actually about it.
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fjackdaw wrote:Whip the Woking Overtaking Group a bit harder.
I'm still going to reserve OWG-whipping until we've had a few non-refuelling races. Brazil showed that overtaking is possible, if the incentive is there. It just hasn't actually been there for the last few years.
I coined the term "Lewisteria". The irony is that I actually quite like Lewis Hamilton.
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Begin non-confidence proceedings against Bernie?
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What I would do if elected FIA president (very unlikely)
1. Ditch all of the Tilke-dromes and bring back some of the classic tracks, as well as some of the other great tracks that have never been on the F1 calendar. Let everyone from the drivers and teams to the fans vote for which tracks are used in the season.
2. Bring back pre qualifying, and let the organisers of each event determine the size of the grid.
3. Implement a budget cap so teams with infinite budgets are restricted to the same budget as the smaller teams.
4. Change engine rules from a V8 engines with a maximum of 3 liters to up to a maximum of 12 cylinders. Power must not exceed 750hp
5. Open up mid season testing to all teams
6. Ban junior teams such as Toro Rosso
7. End the engine freeze and ditch the 8 engines per car a season rule
8. Bring back the third car for race weekends and the third driver practice sessions on Friday
9. F1 Rejects Life, Minardi and Super Aguri gain an automatic entry into F1
Last but not least
10. Give Yuji Ide a superlicence
1. Ditch all of the Tilke-dromes and bring back some of the classic tracks, as well as some of the other great tracks that have never been on the F1 calendar. Let everyone from the drivers and teams to the fans vote for which tracks are used in the season.
2. Bring back pre qualifying, and let the organisers of each event determine the size of the grid.
3. Implement a budget cap so teams with infinite budgets are restricted to the same budget as the smaller teams.
4. Change engine rules from a V8 engines with a maximum of 3 liters to up to a maximum of 12 cylinders. Power must not exceed 750hp
5. Open up mid season testing to all teams
6. Ban junior teams such as Toro Rosso
7. End the engine freeze and ditch the 8 engines per car a season rule
8. Bring back the third car for race weekends and the third driver practice sessions on Friday
9. F1 Rejects Life, Minardi and Super Aguri gain an automatic entry into F1
Last but not least
10. Give Yuji Ide a superlicence
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Jordan192 wrote:fjackdaw wrote:Whip the Woking Overtaking Group a bit harder.
I'm still going to reserve OWG-whipping until we've had a few non-refuelling races. Brazil showed that overtaking is possible, if the incentive is there. It just hasn't actually been there for the last few years.
That's more to do with the tracks that the incentive though - these guys are racing drivers, they'll overtake if they possibly can (unless they're playing points games for the title). How often do you see cars losing time because they're stuck behind someone - they'd take the place if they could. It's not just about doing it at the pitstops, they need to have the clear track to make the time up. If nothing else, overtaking is vital for that. Interlagos is a good overtaking track generally anyway, but the fast aero tracks and the fiddly street circuits have proved not to be.
They'd better sort out overtaking for next year, otherwise 2010 will be the dullest season ever.
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Experience in both taking part in motorsports events and in motorsport officialdom usually is all that is required to apply for presidency. You don't need to be a former member of parliament like Ari or a lawyer like Max or a former team principal like Jean.
How about him?
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Glen Dix, known to most as the flagman of Adelaide.
But really, having said things like "let Michael pass for the championship" in public should disqualify Jean Todt from the presidency. (And that comes from a Schumacher supporter who has seen his 1st victory back in 92 from the wet grandstand at Eau Rouge.)
I hope Max's bullying/lobbying will prove fruitless for the outcome of the election.
How about him?
![Image](http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,6261355,00.jpg)
Glen Dix, known to most as the flagman of Adelaide.
But really, having said things like "let Michael pass for the championship" in public should disqualify Jean Todt from the presidency. (And that comes from a Schumacher supporter who has seen his 1st victory back in 92 from the wet grandstand at Eau Rouge.)
I hope Max's bullying/lobbying will prove fruitless for the outcome of the election.
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fjackdaw wrote:Ban the drivers from changing their bloody helmet colours all the time. Yes, I'm talking to you, Fernando. One driver = one helmet design. Special dispensation for local and/or celebratory race one-offs.
Alonso changed his helmet colours in keeping with team colours. JB did the same thing; he used to be red and blue at Honda, but he changed to yellow and black for Brawn. Fisichella was yellow, gree and grey, but changed to green, red and black when he went to Ferrari.
If you want the leading culprit, it's Rubens Barrichello. He went from red, white and blue to black and yellow, then back to the red, white and blue. He had a one-off for Monaco, then he added a little extra in support of Massa. Now he's running something "his children designed", though that's apparently somethg Brawn told him to say as it's supposedly intended as a show of support for Piquet.
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Captain Hammer wrote:So, here's the quetion - what would you do as the President?
Tyre War II ?
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Captain Hammer wrote:fjackdaw wrote:Ban the drivers from changing their bloody helmet colours all the time. Yes, I'm talking to you, Fernando. One driver = one helmet design. Special dispensation for local and/or celebratory race one-offs.
Alonso changed his helmet colours in keeping with team colours. JB did the same thing; he used to be red and blue at Honda, but he changed to yellow and black for Brawn. Fisichella was yellow, gree and grey, but changed to green, red and black when he went to Ferrari.
If you want the leading culprit, it's Rubens Barrichello. He went from red, white and blue to black and yellow, then back to the red, white and blue. He had a one-off for Monaco, then he added a little extra in support of Massa. Now he's running something "his children designed", though that's apparently somethg Brawn told him to say as it's supposedly intended as a show of support for Piquet.
I disagree with changing helmets for the sake of team colours, though. Imagine Damon Hill going yellow at Jordan! I'm with Martin Brundle, the helmet colours are the driver's identity, they should be sacred. Helmets like Senna's or Hill's are iconic, which you can only get from a grim commitment to continuity!
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1- Bring back Turbos. If there's no refuelling next season, it will add an extra challenge. However, the turbo unit itself will be a standard, intentionally unreliable component, so that the car it's installed in will be faster than NA cars, but wil rarely last to take its win (A la 1982)
2- Open up qualifying to all entrants on the day and simply extend the current format by +6 place drop outs as neccesary. All entrants must compete in the sessions until they are knocked out, to prevent the immunity guarunteed by pre-qualifying.
3- Allow Tilke to go completely mad with his designs. We know he can produce good, but only when the regulations don't block him.
4- Allow classic tracks to be re-used, and limit the use of chicanes on circuits.
5- Limit the above car downforce by only permitting single-plane wings, and re-allow ground effects. Allow some leway in design of cars, as long as the above-car downforce is below acceptable levels.
6- Mandatory use of steel brake disks.
7- Mandatory use of fully manual (i.e. with lever) gearboxes with clutch pedal, and permitted use of on-board starter motors to help out rookies who stall (Only permitted for drivers in their first season of F1). This starter motor will be a 'weight penalty', similar to KERS, so rookie drivers may choose not to have it.
8- No electronically moveable parts on the car, all alterations must be done manually and in the pits. No electronic rev-limiters will be permitted. The 'black boxes' will still be used, but teams are forbidden from using this data mid-race. They may only see: Speed, Fuel, Gear, Engine temp, and Revs, nothing more.
9- As a continuation, the only button permitted on the steering wheel will be the two-way radio.
10- Change the tyre regulations. Allow for super-super-soft tyres for qualifying and very durable ones so the race can be done non-stop. Also, allow mixing of tyre compounds around the car. (For example, three mediums and one hard, for the tyre that takes the most strain).
2- Open up qualifying to all entrants on the day and simply extend the current format by +6 place drop outs as neccesary. All entrants must compete in the sessions until they are knocked out, to prevent the immunity guarunteed by pre-qualifying.
3- Allow Tilke to go completely mad with his designs. We know he can produce good, but only when the regulations don't block him.
4- Allow classic tracks to be re-used, and limit the use of chicanes on circuits.
5- Limit the above car downforce by only permitting single-plane wings, and re-allow ground effects. Allow some leway in design of cars, as long as the above-car downforce is below acceptable levels.
6- Mandatory use of steel brake disks.
7- Mandatory use of fully manual (i.e. with lever) gearboxes with clutch pedal, and permitted use of on-board starter motors to help out rookies who stall (Only permitted for drivers in their first season of F1). This starter motor will be a 'weight penalty', similar to KERS, so rookie drivers may choose not to have it.
8- No electronically moveable parts on the car, all alterations must be done manually and in the pits. No electronic rev-limiters will be permitted. The 'black boxes' will still be used, but teams are forbidden from using this data mid-race. They may only see: Speed, Fuel, Gear, Engine temp, and Revs, nothing more.
9- As a continuation, the only button permitted on the steering wheel will be the two-way radio.
10- Change the tyre regulations. Allow for super-super-soft tyres for qualifying and very durable ones so the race can be done non-stop. Also, allow mixing of tyre compounds around the car. (For example, three mediums and one hard, for the tyre that takes the most strain).
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Ben Gilbert wrote:7- Mandatory use of fully manual (i.e. with lever) gearboxes with clutch pedal,
Yes! You work! You change gear, lazy driver man!
and on-board starter motors
No! No safety net! You spin, you stall, you go home!
Seriously though, anti-stall is big part in the low (and therefore boring) level of attrition in modern F1. Much like tarmac runoff, it means you can make mistakes that would have ended your race 15 years ago and get away with only losing a few seconds.
I coined the term "Lewisteria". The irony is that I actually quite like Lewis Hamilton.
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Ben Gilbert wrote: No electronic rev-limiters will be permitted.
But will timing/injection control software still be permitted? Sometimes teams can hide 'rev-limiter" functionality in such software.
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fondmetal-fond wrote:Ben Gilbert wrote: No electronic rev-limiters will be permitted.
But will timing/injection control software still be permitted? Sometimes teams can hide 'rev-limiter" functionality in such software.
No it won't. I meant by rev limiters anything that would control the rev limit of the engine, excluding the driver.
Jordan192 wrote:Ben Gilbert wrote:and on-board starter motors
No! No safety net! You spin, you stall, you go home!
Seriously though, anti-stall is big part in the low (and therefore boring) level of attrition in modern F1. Much like tarmac runoff, it means you can make mistakes that would have ended your race 15 years ago and get away with only losing a few seconds.
I meant for them only as an aid for the inexperienced drivers, hence why I've changed it slightly. After your first season, however many races you competed in it, you cannot have the safety net.
Cynon wrote:Look further down the field, enjoy the view of the little guys and/or crap drivers in cars too good for them giving their all for a meager result.
Because that's what I thought this forum celebrates the most.
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1-Change the engines to more eco-friendly 2.0 V6 TC (as powerful as the actual engines, of course)
2-Rescue old circuits like Zandvoort, Adelaide or the Nordschleife
3-Ban refuelling
4-Make the old rear wings mandatory again (the actual F1 cars just look weird)
5-Send Bernie Ecclestone (by the way, does someone have read what he said about Senna's death not far from now?) into an asylum.
2-Rescue old circuits like Zandvoort, Adelaide or the Nordschleife
3-Ban refuelling
4-Make the old rear wings mandatory again (the actual F1 cars just look weird)
5-Send Bernie Ecclestone (by the way, does someone have read what he said about Senna's death not far from now?) into an asylum.
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1. Reduce the wings to single plane items. Particular attention to front wings and legislate in as far possible to stop all the little winglets, recesses, dimples, curves etc. that make the front of the car so sensitive to dirty air. Of course, they'd probably just find a way around it, have to try though.
2. Allow turbo chargers, but with a smaller displacement limit than NA engines. The eight engine a season rule could stop them from going stone mad like they did in the 80s where they were taking destroyed engine blocks out of the car after every almost every qualifying session, but just to be sure, introduce a boost-pressure limit.
3. Remove penalties for replacing the engine or gearbox during a race weekend, I think it makes people sandbag too much if they have a small problem on Friday. F1 shouldn't be about conserving, it should be about racing to the limit of your machinery. But as above, retain the limit on the number of engines that can be used a season, and penalise people on the use of the ninth engine.
4. Replace tarmac run-offs with deep sand starting 2m from the track where it's safe to do so.
2. Allow turbo chargers, but with a smaller displacement limit than NA engines. The eight engine a season rule could stop them from going stone mad like they did in the 80s where they were taking destroyed engine blocks out of the car after every almost every qualifying session, but just to be sure, introduce a boost-pressure limit.
3. Remove penalties for replacing the engine or gearbox during a race weekend, I think it makes people sandbag too much if they have a small problem on Friday. F1 shouldn't be about conserving, it should be about racing to the limit of your machinery. But as above, retain the limit on the number of engines that can be used a season, and penalise people on the use of the ninth engine.
4. Replace tarmac run-offs with deep sand starting 2m from the track where it's safe to do so.
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1. Relax circuit regulations and let Hermann Tilke go wild, who also builds my Glasgow Park track (see "Beat Tilke at his own game" Thread)
2. Ban Max Mosely from attending any FIA-sanctioned event.
3. Ban Nelson Piquet Jr. from attending any FIA-sanctioned event.
4. Appoint a new OWG, and reduce Front and Rear Wings to single-plane only.
5. Revise F1 Qualifying - anybody can turn up, and there will be a new qualifying format, as follows:
Cars drawn randomly into two groups. Q1/2 skipped if 26 cars or less attend.
Qualification 1 (Each car only allowed 3 hot laps)
15 cars (13 progress)
Qualification 2 (Each car only allowed 3 hot laps)
15 cars (13 progress)
Eliminator 1 (20 mins)
26 cars (18 progress)
Eliminator 2 (15 mins)
18 cars (10 progress)
Pole Position Shootout (10 mins)
10 cars (Pole decided)
6. Introduce new grass-roots level FIA series, FIA F4 with cars similar to FBMW/FFord, but with a $10,000 per year budget cap per car. Also, FIA Touring Cup which has 3 classes: Super Touring (Up to 300 bhp), Touring (Up to 200bhp) and Cup (Under 200bhp), also with a $10,000 budget cap. Unlike F4, a one-make championship, Touring Cup allows almost any car to be entered, as long as required safety standards are met.
7. FOM & CVC are scrapped, replaced by new FIA Commercial arm. Fans are given more access to motorsport, and can even vote on the most important issues, i.e. If an official poll is carried out and the majority say Yes, a single 'Yes' vote will be submitted to the FIA vote in question [Sporting Regulations Only].
2. Ban Max Mosely from attending any FIA-sanctioned event.
3. Ban Nelson Piquet Jr. from attending any FIA-sanctioned event.
4. Appoint a new OWG, and reduce Front and Rear Wings to single-plane only.
5. Revise F1 Qualifying - anybody can turn up, and there will be a new qualifying format, as follows:
Cars drawn randomly into two groups. Q1/2 skipped if 26 cars or less attend.
Qualification 1 (Each car only allowed 3 hot laps)
15 cars (13 progress)
Qualification 2 (Each car only allowed 3 hot laps)
15 cars (13 progress)
Eliminator 1 (20 mins)
26 cars (18 progress)
Eliminator 2 (15 mins)
18 cars (10 progress)
Pole Position Shootout (10 mins)
10 cars (Pole decided)
6. Introduce new grass-roots level FIA series, FIA F4 with cars similar to FBMW/FFord, but with a $10,000 per year budget cap per car. Also, FIA Touring Cup which has 3 classes: Super Touring (Up to 300 bhp), Touring (Up to 200bhp) and Cup (Under 200bhp), also with a $10,000 budget cap. Unlike F4, a one-make championship, Touring Cup allows almost any car to be entered, as long as required safety standards are met.
7. FOM & CVC are scrapped, replaced by new FIA Commercial arm. Fans are given more access to motorsport, and can even vote on the most important issues, i.e. If an official poll is carried out and the majority say Yes, a single 'Yes' vote will be submitted to the FIA vote in question [Sporting Regulations Only].
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Jordan wrote:Begin non-confidence proceedings against Bernie?
The man has a point...
Won't bore everyone with ideas for WTCC, WRC and Endurance. Sticking to F1:
1. Keep KERS, increase usage time and power. God knows we'll need it when refuelling is banned
2. Mandate maximum fuel use per race. That should keep things honest.
3. Free up engine regulations. Different configurations, displacements and possible turbocharging would be available.
4. Allow a second tyre manufacturer in F1.
5. 3 institutionalized, FIA sponsored tests during the season. Rookie drivers get extra mileage.
After this was over I would step down and nominate Patrick Head as my successor. Then, I would become a billionaire by selling tickets to the FIA meetings...
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- Allow drivers to change their helmet design as much as they liked, but require that the number of the car should cover most of the rear wing endplates (no sponsor decals allowed there) with the telemetry graphics updated to accommodate what numbers everyone has. Ex: We would have seen a giant, IRL style #22 on Jenson Button's rear wing.
- Second tire manufacturer
- Require the aerodynamics of F1 cars to allow overtaking.
- Ban Nelson Piquet, Jr. and Max Mosley from FIA events.
- Greatly relax circuit design regulations so tracks like Bathurst could be on the calendar.
- Bring back the third car
- Increase the minimum cars from 26 to 34 -- with all of them starting the race.
- Take F1 cars to a short track oval in the US... Martinsville, VA or the Milwaukee Mile... 8)
- Second tire manufacturer
- Require the aerodynamics of F1 cars to allow overtaking.
- Ban Nelson Piquet, Jr. and Max Mosley from FIA events.
- Greatly relax circuit design regulations so tracks like Bathurst could be on the calendar.
- Bring back the third car
- Increase the minimum cars from 26 to 34 -- with all of them starting the race.
- Take F1 cars to a short track oval in the US... Martinsville, VA or the Milwaukee Mile... 8)
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1. Fire Bernie and Hermann Tilke and hire Ari Vatanen as the commercial director.
2. Reduce ticket prices.
3. Bring back the great tracks.
4. Hire team of aerodynamic genii to do the technical rules and another group of aerodynamic genii and drivers to work on overtaking.
5. Development is allowed!
6. KERS is upgraded so it is a viable solution.
7. The stewards of the meet don't have power for post-race 25 second penalty unless specifically directed by the FIA officials which I hire.
8. There shall be a new feeder series that seeks out good drivers and tests them out. Young drivers are encouraged to join.
9. HD F1 television.
10. 3rd drivers on Friday!
2. Reduce ticket prices.
3. Bring back the great tracks.
4. Hire team of aerodynamic genii to do the technical rules and another group of aerodynamic genii and drivers to work on overtaking.
5. Development is allowed!
6. KERS is upgraded so it is a viable solution.
7. The stewards of the meet don't have power for post-race 25 second penalty unless specifically directed by the FIA officials which I hire.
8. There shall be a new feeder series that seeks out good drivers and tests them out. Young drivers are encouraged to join.
9. HD F1 television.
10. 3rd drivers on Friday!
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1-Every engine supplier must be able to supply at least 2 teams with 8 engines for a price no more os US$ 20 millions.
2-Limited in-season testing but only by 3rd drivers.
3-Full effort to bring back the US GP. But no road circuits like Dallas, Phoenix or LV.
4-Bring back another tyre manufacturer.
5-Limit stewards powers in GPs to limit penalties given to drivers.
2-Limited in-season testing but only by 3rd drivers.
3-Full effort to bring back the US GP. But no road circuits like Dallas, Phoenix or LV.
4-Bring back another tyre manufacturer.
5-Limit stewards powers in GPs to limit penalties given to drivers.
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1. Pre-qualifying, obviously
2. Ferrari, Williams, Mclaren, Jordan and a bunch of backmarker teams such as Life, Eurobrun, Coloni, Onyx, Rial etc.
3. The return of classic circuits such as A1-ring, Imola, Classic Spa, Estoril, Adelaide and Phoenix(Yes, I liked the Phoenix circuit)
4. The Overtaking Working Group actually make overtaking easier.
5. I'd call a meeting with Bernie Ecclestone and Max Mosley, and kick them both in the balls. Just for a laugh.
6. Change the car regulations back to 1989-1990 standards. Back when Formula 1 was at its very best.
2. Ferrari, Williams, Mclaren, Jordan and a bunch of backmarker teams such as Life, Eurobrun, Coloni, Onyx, Rial etc.
3. The return of classic circuits such as A1-ring, Imola, Classic Spa, Estoril, Adelaide and Phoenix(Yes, I liked the Phoenix circuit)
4. The Overtaking Working Group actually make overtaking easier.
5. I'd call a meeting with Bernie Ecclestone and Max Mosley, and kick them both in the balls. Just for a laugh.
6. Change the car regulations back to 1989-1990 standards. Back when Formula 1 was at its very best.
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Ferrim wrote:In Soviet Russia, the president chooses YOU!!!
Sorry, I couldn't avoid it.
I was going to, than thought better of it. Glad to know someone else trolls around uncyclopedia.
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F1 is meant to be the pinnacle of technology, so why have any technical regulations? I would make a couple of rules that the cars would have to be wheel-propelled, would have to pass FIA safety and crash tests, or otherwise dangerous to human life. If a team turns up with a car as wide as the track with ridiculous fuel economy, it's up to the other teams to find a way to beat them! It will basically end up being Robot Wars with no one actually bothering to race.
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Re: Hypotheticals: President YOU
That'd be a load of fun, Watka, but as Rosset's tale of the broken axles at Tyrell and Perry McCarthy's steering arm episodes tell us, teams will ignore the safety of drivers.
If F1 was completely deregulated, I'd imagine the teams would come up with cars, whilst having no single dangerous aspect, would possess a combination of ground effects, active suspensions, wheels as wide as tyres can be built for, and/or aerodynamic pieces that would enable them to corner so fast that drivers' necks would be ruined in a couple of seasons by the G-Force (and all the computer technology would mean any idiot could drive them, so crocking Hamilton wouldn't make a difference to the top teams). And we'd have drivers' strikes every two races until regulations were reintroduced.
If F1 was completely deregulated, I'd imagine the teams would come up with cars, whilst having no single dangerous aspect, would possess a combination of ground effects, active suspensions, wheels as wide as tyres can be built for, and/or aerodynamic pieces that would enable them to corner so fast that drivers' necks would be ruined in a couple of seasons by the G-Force (and all the computer technology would mean any idiot could drive them, so crocking Hamilton wouldn't make a difference to the top teams). And we'd have drivers' strikes every two races until regulations were reintroduced.
Re: Hypotheticals: President YOU
How about
an endurance race.
Teammates share the same car? A la Bathurst?
Oh, and also, long course Nurburgring.
an endurance race.
Teammates share the same car? A la Bathurst?
Oh, and also, long course Nurburgring.
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Yeah, none of them would work.
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Re: Hypotheticals: President YOU
Captain Hammer wrote:Yeah, none of them would work.
Thats what would make them so fun!
"Grosjean has a great desire to turn around and look at the corner he's just gone through, too many times per lap or per session, he's always spinning that Renault"
Re: Hypotheticals: President YOU
Simply ban the double-deck diffusers. Early in the season, cars could easily follow cars without them through fast corners. With the Brawn, Williams, and, I think, Toyota, it was an entirely different story. Without all that extra turbulence I think the new wings do a fine job.
Hell, restrict aero even more. Slow them down and bring back drifting, real driving. Make the engines really small and let them rev really high so they break again. 1961 type cars with modern safety. That'd be racing.
Hell, restrict aero even more. Slow them down and bring back drifting, real driving. Make the engines really small and let them rev really high so they break again. 1961 type cars with modern safety. That'd be racing.
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Enforcer wrote:If F1 was completely deregulated, I'd imagine the teams would come up with cars, whilst having no single dangerous aspect, would possess a combination of ground effects, active suspensions, wheels as wide as tyres can be built for, and/or aerodynamic pieces that would enable them to corner so fast that drivers' necks would be ruined in a couple of seasons by the G-Force (and all the computer technology would mean any idiot could drive them, so crocking Hamilton wouldn't make a difference to the top teams). And we'd have drivers' strikes every two races until regulations were reintroduced.
Seriously, the cars would be so fast, the moment anyone got it wrong, there would be horrendous accidents. I really think we would need some sort of limit, and that's why I said cap fuel use per race.
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1) Get rid of the engine freeze and let teams go for power but have a limit. This will increase power and engine unreliability
2) Give Tilke more freedom because it isn't his fault that the tracks are boring
3) I like the rule in 2005 with tyres, so keep that
4) Tire War
5) US GP and a Russian GP are needed
6) Test session for only test drivers the day after the GP
7) Only one test driver per team.
8) I would have qualifying as an one run with the knockout
9) 26 cars max.
2) Give Tilke more freedom because it isn't his fault that the tracks are boring
3) I like the rule in 2005 with tyres, so keep that
4) Tire War
5) US GP and a Russian GP are needed
6) Test session for only test drivers the day after the GP
7) Only one test driver per team.
8) I would have qualifying as an one run with the knockout
9) 26 cars max.
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I'm not too at odds with the current rules, and assuming that I need to keep all my series financially viable, I'm not going to touch the technical regulations much. These rules will be consistent across all types of motorsport, but where it applies to only one type, I've mentioned it. Here goes:
1) A constant set of race stewards - three of them - who will attend every single race in a season before being sent away, with new stewards brought in at the start of a new season having studied this year's rules thoroughly, and not having had a chance to get bribes as their identities will be kept secret.
2) Wild Cards for F1 events. Assuming that the weather is of an average temperature for the region in which the race is operating, after qualifying a wild card will be drawn to determine a change in the race. These will include:
-Reverse Grid
-Demolition Derby (Crash penalty rules waived)
-One Tyres (Tyre change not mandatory)
-Reverse Track (Track runs in the opposite direction)
-All Penalties (Everyone must serve a 30s stop-and-go penalty during the race at some point)
-Multiple Series (The top five finishers from all support series also start the race from the back of the grid in their vehicles.)
3) No reverse gears are allowed in any cars. Any engine is allowed, with any type of fuel - (including hydrogen cells, solar power, KERS, rotary engines, diesel) - but this will all come into play later on in a later rule.
4) The points system is 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1, plus a point for pole position, a pole for fastest lap. Drivers are paid a starting salary that must be less than 1.1 million Euro, and awarded an extra million per point. The team's championship points as a number are divided by their budgets (monitored by FIA officials) to get the final value for just how cost-effective the team was during the year.
5) There is no limit to the number of drivers that can be changed during the season. There is the practice session of Fridays open to third drivers only - However the team MUST declare their setup of drivers before the race week-end begins. Mondays can be used as a further test session.
6) All winners must perform at least one mandatory doughnut or wheelspin or drift before the crowds. Unless it is raining, the vehicles that are not in podium positions may be parked by the side of the track to allow the spectators to get a better view of the cars for pictures, as well as the drivers being able to talk to the public first rather than the press or their teams. The vehicles will be collected by FIA cranes and trucks for scrutineering - this means that the cars aren't cooped up in Parc Ferme and the public can see them, but it takes away the possibillity of engineers rolling lead balls down the exhaust pipes.
7) The drivers must join in their national anthem on the podium, regardless of how tired they are or how bad their singing is. Faliure to so so is -1pt.
8) Any protest from one team to another will only be resolved through a court case if the FIA president and his aides feel it necessary. If it is a minor matter, such as a points score or a coming together between two drivers, it will be the team bosses or race engineers who will solve it - the FIA will provide two identical Mercedes CL63 AMG sports cars, one in black and one in white, and these will be raced from identical starting positions around Imola Racing Circuit in San Marino. The one who makes the fastest lap will be declared the winner.
9) All Touring Cars, IRC cars and D1GP cars must not have any external aerodynamic additions, and aside from the S2000 engines, must be road-legal in the country of origin (SEAT in Spain, Peugeot in France etc.)
10) There may be only one winner in a GT series where a single car has multiple drivers. In the case that two drivers are tied for the championship having shared a car, they must race a touge event in the same vehicle they contested the championship with, the winner of this race (or race series if there are three drivers) will be the champion.
11) The GT1 permitted entries will be Reiter-Lamborghini LP640s, Gigawave-Nissan GT-Rs, Doran-Ford GTs, Prodrive-Aston Martin DBR9s, Saleen S7s and Corvette ZR-1s. C6.Rs may only race in GT2.
12) If something goes wrong with an overtake, it is the fault of the driver behind.
13) Better TV coverage will be given to the WRC, WTCC and IRC. Live streams and timing for all of these series will be available on the respective websites. Exceptions will be made if there is a national series for touring cars.
14) Formula 2 cars will run alongside GP2 cars.
[I might add more in the future, but at the moment that's all I can think of.]
1) A constant set of race stewards - three of them - who will attend every single race in a season before being sent away, with new stewards brought in at the start of a new season having studied this year's rules thoroughly, and not having had a chance to get bribes as their identities will be kept secret.
2) Wild Cards for F1 events. Assuming that the weather is of an average temperature for the region in which the race is operating, after qualifying a wild card will be drawn to determine a change in the race. These will include:
-Reverse Grid
-Demolition Derby (Crash penalty rules waived)
-One Tyres (Tyre change not mandatory)
-Reverse Track (Track runs in the opposite direction)
-All Penalties (Everyone must serve a 30s stop-and-go penalty during the race at some point)
-Multiple Series (The top five finishers from all support series also start the race from the back of the grid in their vehicles.)
3) No reverse gears are allowed in any cars. Any engine is allowed, with any type of fuel - (including hydrogen cells, solar power, KERS, rotary engines, diesel) - but this will all come into play later on in a later rule.
4) The points system is 12-9-7-5-4-3-2-1, plus a point for pole position, a pole for fastest lap. Drivers are paid a starting salary that must be less than 1.1 million Euro, and awarded an extra million per point. The team's championship points as a number are divided by their budgets (monitored by FIA officials) to get the final value for just how cost-effective the team was during the year.
5) There is no limit to the number of drivers that can be changed during the season. There is the practice session of Fridays open to third drivers only - However the team MUST declare their setup of drivers before the race week-end begins. Mondays can be used as a further test session.
6) All winners must perform at least one mandatory doughnut or wheelspin or drift before the crowds. Unless it is raining, the vehicles that are not in podium positions may be parked by the side of the track to allow the spectators to get a better view of the cars for pictures, as well as the drivers being able to talk to the public first rather than the press or their teams. The vehicles will be collected by FIA cranes and trucks for scrutineering - this means that the cars aren't cooped up in Parc Ferme and the public can see them, but it takes away the possibillity of engineers rolling lead balls down the exhaust pipes.
7) The drivers must join in their national anthem on the podium, regardless of how tired they are or how bad their singing is. Faliure to so so is -1pt.
8) Any protest from one team to another will only be resolved through a court case if the FIA president and his aides feel it necessary. If it is a minor matter, such as a points score or a coming together between two drivers, it will be the team bosses or race engineers who will solve it - the FIA will provide two identical Mercedes CL63 AMG sports cars, one in black and one in white, and these will be raced from identical starting positions around Imola Racing Circuit in San Marino. The one who makes the fastest lap will be declared the winner.
9) All Touring Cars, IRC cars and D1GP cars must not have any external aerodynamic additions, and aside from the S2000 engines, must be road-legal in the country of origin (SEAT in Spain, Peugeot in France etc.)
10) There may be only one winner in a GT series where a single car has multiple drivers. In the case that two drivers are tied for the championship having shared a car, they must race a touge event in the same vehicle they contested the championship with, the winner of this race (or race series if there are three drivers) will be the champion.
11) The GT1 permitted entries will be Reiter-Lamborghini LP640s, Gigawave-Nissan GT-Rs, Doran-Ford GTs, Prodrive-Aston Martin DBR9s, Saleen S7s and Corvette ZR-1s. C6.Rs may only race in GT2.
12) If something goes wrong with an overtake, it is the fault of the driver behind.
13) Better TV coverage will be given to the WRC, WTCC and IRC. Live streams and timing for all of these series will be available on the respective websites. Exceptions will be made if there is a national series for touring cars.
14) Formula 2 cars will run alongside GP2 cars.
[I might add more in the future, but at the moment that's all I can think of.]
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Re: Hypotheticals: President YOU
Many Blue Flags wrote:7) The drivers must join in their national anthem on the podium, regardless of how tired they are or how bad their singing is. Faliure to so so is -1pt.
What will Alonso do? Spanish anthem doesn't have words.
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Bleu wrote:Many Blue Flags wrote:7) The drivers must join in their national anthem on the podium, regardless of how tired they are or how bad their singing is. Faliure to so so is -1pt.
What will Alonso do? Spanish anthem doesn't have words.
Well, then it will be mandatory for him to dance and sing the Perrea Perrea (the song that we presented to Eurovision with that freak with a plastic guitar, Rodolfo Chikiliquatre)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRQhZtbm97I
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I'd make all major announcements Thursday afternoon, purely to annoy autosport.
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I'd curtail Formula One, and create kostas22's Formula Rejects as it's replacement, with current F1 drivers and staff going to NASCAR as is now mandatory.
Better than 'Tour in a suit case' Takagi.
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shinji wrote:I'd curtail Formula One, and create kostas22's Formula Rejects as it's replacement, with current F1 drivers and staff going to NASCAR as is now mandatory.
Hell yeah.
Why did I not think of this myself???
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