"Grand Prix 2" Championship

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 24 May 2012, 07:28

The newly choosen Ferrari seatholder, Andreas Stefano, has choosen Tom Douglas and Kazuhiko Takagi for 1996. Is this right, tristan?

(And pardon my bias, if any!

)

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 24 May 2012, 13:02

Benetton needs a second driver. Francois Albertini needs to confirm Forti's lineup for '96. Chris Forbes still needs to announce a driver to replace da Silva in the first two rounds. I think Jordan is confirmed so Forti, Benetton and Sauber are the last holdouts.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 24 May 2012, 21:28

Where are the list of unconformed drivers.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 24 May 2012, 21:31

eurobrun wrote:Where are the list of unconformed drivers.

Who cares about unconfirmed drivers, Andrew Spokes is still at Minardi!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 May 2012, 21:53

Sauber can run Ligier-driver Valsattis (if his owner agrees) in these first two races, as he's not scheduled to race for Ligier in these.
Excellent driver! And he can get some experience with a midfield team before he's going for championship glory in the Ligier. Also the Sauber is blue, which is very important!

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 24 May 2012, 22:01

This wrote:Sauber can run Ligier-driver Valsattis (if his owner agrees) in these first two races, as he's not scheduled to race for Ligier in these.
Excellent driver! And he can get some experience with a midfield team before he's going for championship glory in the Ligier. Also the Sauber is blue, which is very important!

Deal accepted.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 24 May 2012, 22:05

Tom Douglas is reportedly furious that Spokes didn't get the Ferrari drive over Takagi. Douglas would also like to point out that since his contract was signed by the old seat holder, it's watertight for its duration.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 24 May 2012, 22:27

Masta Valsattis:
I didn't realise I would be competing for Sauber at the first two races, but I'm delighted to gain more track time with a professional and hard-working outfit like Sauber. I hope to give a good showing in the two races and help them in their bid for a top 6 in the Constructors.

Minardi Press Release:
We would like to take this time to express our disappointment at Andrew Spokes not securing the Ferrari drive for 1996. We would also like to take this time to confirm Spokes WILL NOT be staying at Minardi for 1997, as this should push a top team into taking him on. We are confident we can score points and challenge both Arrows and Tyrrell this year.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 24 May 2012, 22:37

I forgot to mention Mikko Fäkkinen will strut his (mediocre) stuff at Minardi for 1996 too.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 24 May 2012, 22:41

Phoenix wrote:I forgot to mention Mikko Fäkkinen will strut his (mediocre) stuff at Minardi for 1996 too.

Erm, no he won't.

Spokes was re-signed many, many moons ago and part of the Valsattis-Ligier deal was Van Dycke gets the second seat. At least that's my understanding.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 May 2012, 23:00

AdrianSutil wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I forgot to mention Mikko Fäkkinen will strut his (mediocre) stuff at Minardi for 1996 too.

Erm, no he won't.

Spokes was re-signed many, many moons ago and part of the Valsattis-Ligier deal was Van Dycke gets the second seat. At least that's my understanding.

Van Dycke has been chosen for his excellent results in the past! Including points finishes for Tyrell and Larousse. And oh, humiliating Miko Fäkkinen in an identical car...

No i didn't realise the Minardi-owner was the same one as Valsattis, i just wanted Van Dycke to race for Minardi.

Fäkkinen can be Ligier test-driver of course. Being part of the championship winning team can only improve his chances

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 24 May 2012, 23:07

Well, are there other seats available for him? He scored Minardi's only point this season!

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 24 May 2012, 23:38

I'm trying all I can to get Andrew Spokes in a better car, and planning to offer his services to any team during the year if they decided to drop their own driver. So because of this, I can put Miko as 'first reserve' for Minardi and offer him 6 races (that he chooses) during the year to race with Minardi. If you accept?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 24 May 2012, 23:42

AdrianSutil wrote:I'm trying all I can to get Andrew Spokes in a better car, and planning to offer his services to any team during the year if they decided to drop their own driver. So because of this, I can put Miko as 'first reserve' for Minardi and offer him 6 races (that he chooses) during the year to race with Minardi. If you accept?

I accept. If possible, these are the races I want him in:
-Monaco GP
-French GP
-British GP
-Belgian GP
-Italian GP
-Japanese GP

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 May 2012, 00:01

Phoenix wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:I'm trying all I can to get Andrew Spokes in a better car, and planning to offer his services to any team during the year if they decided to drop their own driver. So because of this, I can put Miko as 'first reserve' for Minardi and offer him 6 races (that he chooses) during the year to race with Minardi. If you accept?

I accept. If possible, these are the races I want him in:
-Monaco GP
-French GP
-British GP
-Belgian GP
-Italian GP
-Japanese GP

Ok not a problem.

Andrew Spokes will drive all races apart from Monaco, Belgium and Italy
Gio van Dycke will drive all races apart from France, Britain and Japan
Miko Fäkkinen will drive in place of Spokes and van Dycke in those six. (So Spokes and van Dycke get their home race each)

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 25 May 2012, 01:37

eurobrun wrote:Where are the list of unconformed drivers.

Unconfirmed drives:

The Forti lineup
The Benetton lineup

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 May 2012, 02:16

Minardi Press Release:
We currently understand that the Benetton line-up for 1996 is still undecided. Therefore, we at Minardi are actively looking to place Andrew Spokes in their car for the future. If this becomes possible, Miko Fäkkinen will replace Spokes as Minardi lead driver for 1996.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 25 May 2012, 02:50

Benetton are willing to put Spokes in the second car.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 May 2012, 02:52

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Benetton are willing to put Spokes in the second car.

OI! Take that muppet Takagi back so Douglas can be a mentor to Spokes :lol:

And next time, show up to school because I'm stuck here in the middle of an English lecture

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 25 May 2012, 04:10

The reason I put Takagi over Spokes is because of talent. Look at the 1995 standings, muppet! :lol:

MEANWHILE! Robert Anderson is suing DAMS for breach of contract and is considering Forti instead.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 May 2012, 05:49

FMecha wrote:The reason I put Takagi over Spokes is because of talent. Look at the 1995 standings, muppet!

Talent? TALENT? All Takagi's done in the last two years is be absolutely trashed by Williams, his teammate and O'Connell in the vastly inferior Ferrari. Spokes on the other hand hauled that Minardi onto a podium. I don't know what you call talent but it must be a definition that nobody else in the entire known universe uses :lol:

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 25 May 2012, 06:01

Is Tom planning to run a campaign to impeach Stefano and Takagi from Ferrari? :evil:

And by the way Takagi has more podiums and a victory.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 May 2012, 06:08

FMecha wrote:And by the way Takagi has more podiums and a victory.

Of course he would, he was in a championship winning car both years with works engine deals. And yet, in 1994, he got thrashed by BOTH Jordans who were running engines made by some bloke with a shed in the Midlands :lol:

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 25 May 2012, 06:18

Wizzie wrote:
FMecha wrote:And by the way Takagi has more podiums and a victory.

Of course he would, he was in a championship winning car both years with works engine deals. And yet, in 1994, he got thrashed by BOTH Jordans who were running engines made by some bloke with a shed in the Midlands

Remember, Kazuhiko's reliability record is somewhat poor in his debut year...

And you must also remember two things - this year (1995) Takagi finished 4th in standings (losing countback to O'Connell) while Tom is only 7th because he's frequently stuck in 4th or 6th in races. And Spokes podium WAS IN 1994 - that was because of flukey attrition, not to mention Spokes did not finish in the points this year (or after his podium), and that Minardi's 1995 points was scored by Fakkinen. :roll:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 May 2012, 06:32

FMecha wrote:Remember, Kazuhiko's reliability record is somewhat poor in his debut year...

O'Connell's reliability record in 1994 wasn't any better yet he scored more points in an inferior car.

And you must also remember two things - this year (1995) Takagi finished 4th in standings (losing countback to O'Connell) while Tom is only 7th because he's frequently stuck in 4th or 6th in races. And Spokes podium WAS IN 1994 - that was because of flukey attrition, not to mention Spokes did not finish in the points this year (or after his podium), and that Minardi's 1995 points was scored by Fakkinen.

The fact he got beaten by O'Connell whilst in a superior car with a better finishing record as well to start with is bad enough. 4th-6th is where you expect the Ferrari to be and Tom's performance has nothing to do with this. Spokes finished 3rd in front of a Footwork and both Saubers which, on any other day, would have easily had the edge. Fakkinen scored one point in 1995 and that was in similar circumstances of attrition. And for most of the year, Spokes took Fakkinen to the cleaners anyway :roll:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 25 May 2012, 08:09

FMecha wrote:MEANWHILE! Robert Anderson is suing DAMS for breach of contract and is considering Forti instead.

DAMS is willing to hire Anderson as a reserve driver.

Post by **Londoner** » 25 May 2012, 13:51

Damon Cannon is getting slightly bored waiting for you muppets to sort out the last few seats. :lol:

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 25 May 2012, 14:08

I think it's just Forti left, whoever controls them.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 25 May 2012, 16:48

Wizzie, it's your fault for not nomintaing Tom Douglas as Ferrari's seatholder. :roll:

And if Spokes not going for Benetton, we can put him in selected races (consenquently Takagi will only able to participate in other races).

That makes Spokes our reserve.

Regarding Robert, maybe. And meanwhile, who will be Forti's seatholder?

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 25 May 2012, 21:14

Andrew Spokes wrote:Wow, I go on holiday for a week and the whole world has gone crazy. It is great to be so highly regarded, but with my head spinning faster than my tyres usually do, it would be nice to have something ironed out soon so I can give my all to whichever team I will be driving for.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 May 2012, 22:12

FMecha wrote:Wizzie, it's your fault for not nomintaing Tom Douglas as Ferrari's seatholder. And if Spokes not going for Benetton, we can put him in selected races (consenquently Takagi will only able to participate in other races). That makes Spokes our reserve.

I would have gone for the Ferrari seatholder in a heartbeat if A. I knew if I could control two teams and B. Mr McClean wouldn't have taken so long to decide whether he was gonna take over the team or not. Besides, if Don Rennis had his way, he would have put Spokes alongside James Davies at McLaren for 1995 but decided that honouring McAllister's contract was the more sensible option and ended up having to choose between the two Brits.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 26 May 2012, 02:19

To get this straight, Spokes is on Benetton now? And Pointrox owns Forti. If he doesn't get his driver lineup in before Monday, then Luca de Montmelo will temporarily take the seat holder position.

Wizzie wrote:
FMecha wrote:Wizzie, it's your fault for not nomintaing Tom Douglas as Ferrari's seatholder. And if Spokes not going for Benetton, we can put him in selected races (consenquently Takagi will only able to participate in other races). That makes Spokes our reserve.

I would have gone for the Ferrari seatholder in a heartbeat if A. I knew if I could control two teams and B. Mr McClean wouldn't have taken so long to decide whether he was gonna take over the team or not. Besides, if Don Rennis had his way, he would have put Spokes alongside James Davies at McLaren for 1995 but decided that honouring McAllister's contract was the more sensible option and ended up having to choose between the two Brits.

I can't believe you would want to fire Rory after he beat Davies handily last year.

And on the point of Takagi's skill, he finished in the exact same position as Herbert did in '95, just with O'Connell beating him instead of Mann.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 26 May 2012, 04:28

tristan1117 wrote:To get this straight, Spokes is on Benetton now? And Pointrox owns Forti. If he doesn't get his driver lineup in before Monday, then Luca de Montmelo will temporarily take the seat holder position.
Wizzie wrote:
FMecha wrote:Wizzie, it's your fault for not nomintaing Tom Douglas as Ferrari's seatholder. And if Spokes not going for Benetton, we can put him in selected races (consenquently Takagi will only able to participate in other races). That makes Spokes our reserve.

I would have gone for the Ferrari seatholder in a heartbeat if A. I knew if I could control two teams and B. Mr McClean wouldn't have taken so long to decide whether he was gonna take over the team or not. Besides, if Don Rennis had his way, he would have put Spokes alongside James Davies at McLaren for 1995 but decided that honouring McAllister's contract was the more sensible option and ended up having to choose between the two Brits.

I can't believe you would want to fire Rory after he beat Davies handily last year.

And on the point of Takagi's skill, he finished in the exact same position as Herbert did in '95, just with O'Connell beating him instead of Mann.

I never said I wanted to fire him. I only said I would have preferred Spokes-Davies for 1995 over McAllister-Davies

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 26 May 2012, 09:35

tristan1117 wrote:I can't believe you would want to fire Rory after he beat Davies handily last year.

James Davies wrote:The key word in that was 1995, chief. And Rory only had so many points on me after he screwed me over Italy.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 28 May 2012, 01:14

The calendar has been finalized. The F1RGP2C will be making its inaugural trip to Road America for the United States GP. Oh, and Magny-Cours has been struck off the calendar due to blandness. The French GP will now be taking place at Pau.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 28 May 2012, 05:54

tristan1117 wrote:Magny-Cours has been struck off the calendar due to blandness. The French GP will now be taking place at Pau.

Much fatal death will occur.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 28 May 2012, 10:39

eurobrun wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Magny-Cours has been struck off the calendar due to blandness. The French GP will now be taking place at Pau.

Much fatal death will occur.

Fatal death? FATAL death? Is there any other kind of death? :roll:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 28 May 2012, 10:43

dr-baker wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Magny-Cours has been struck off the calendar due to blandness. The French GP will now be taking place at Pau.

Much fatal death will occur.

Fatal death? FATAL death? Is there any other kind of death?

People can be killed to death, you know :lol:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 28 May 2012, 10:53

Wizzie wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Much fatal death will occur.

Fatal death? FATAL death? Is there any other kind of death?

People can be killed to death, you know

Yeah, but being killed or murdered is still a fatal incident that results in death... It is still a fatal death. Have you ever really come across a non-fatal death?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 28 May 2012, 11:32

dr-baker wrote:Yeah, but being killed or murdered is still a fatal incident that results in death... It is still a fatal death. Have you ever really come across a non-fatal death?

Do zombies count?