Ponderbox

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 May 2012, 09:31

Pirelli have just announced their tyre compounds for the next three races on their Facebook page and I must say bringing the Softs and Hards to Silverstone sounds like a brave call as, chances are with the typical British weather and everything, one compound will simply not work. At all.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 May 2012, 05:35

Wizzie wrote:Pirelli have just announced their tyre compounds for the next three races on their Facebook page and I must say bringing the Softs and Hards to Silverstone sounds like a brave call as, chances are with the typical British weather and everything, one compound will simply not work. At all.

In which way won't they work? One compound will be very similar to the other or one compound will just be a complete fail with degredation?

And what are the other compounds for the races?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 May 2012, 05:51

AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Pirelli have just announced their tyre compounds for the next three races on their Facebook page and I must say bringing the Softs and Hards to Silverstone sounds like a brave call as, chances are with the typical British weather and everything, one compound will simply not work. At all.

In which way won't they work? One compound will be very similar to the other or one compound will just be a complete fail with degredation?

And what are the other compounds for the races?

The latter, assuming that the Pirelli Hard tyres works like any normal hard tyre would when it comes to getting temperature into them. And assuming that they blister if the temperature's too cold.

For Canada, they're bringing the Supersofts and Softs while it's the Softs and Mediums for Valencia.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 22 May 2012, 07:05

Wizzie wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Pirelli have just announced their tyre compounds for the next three races on their Facebook page and I must say bringing the Softs and Hards to Silverstone sounds like a brave call as, chances are with the typical British weather and everything, one compound will simply not work. At all.

In which way won't they work? One compound will be very similar to the other or one compound will just be a complete fail with degredation?

And what are the other compounds for the races?

The latter, assuming that the Pirelli Hard tyres works like any normal hard tyre would when it comes to getting temperature into them. And assuming that they blister if the temperature's too cold.

For Canada, they're bringing the Supersofts and Softs while it's the Softs and Mediums for Valencia.

This could be interesting.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 22 May 2012, 10:04

I am actually impressed with Team Lotus Enstone, they seem keen to press their actual teams history (have features on Toleman and Benetton) and of course naming the car the E20 with the stars to represent their 3 constructors titles. They are not claiming a fake history like a certain team on the grid tried too.

Danny Bahar just drags the team down, I hope he is paying them a pretty penny.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 22 May 2012, 11:38

Shadaza wrote:I am actually impressed with Team Lotus Enstone, they seem keen to press their actual teams history (have features on Toleman and Benetton) and of course naming the car the E20 with the stars to represent their 3 constructors titles. They are not claiming a fake history like a certain team on the grid tried too.

Danny Bahar just drags the team down, I hope he is paying them a pretty penny.

It's nice to see isn't it? My money is on another name change within the next year or two to something less controversial.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 May 2012, 12:09

AndreaModa wrote:
Shadaza wrote:I am actually impressed with Team Lotus Enstone, they seem keen to press their actual teams history (have features on Toleman and Benetton) and of course naming the car the E20 with the stars to represent their 3 constructors titles. They are not claiming a fake history like a certain team on the grid tried too.

Danny Bahar just drags the team down, I hope he is paying them a pretty penny.

It's nice to see isn't it? My money is on another name change within the next year or two to something less controversial.

Perhaps to a different title sponsor if they can find one. Something distinctly French perhaps, like Équipe Caisse d'Epargne Mecachrome or BNP Paribas Renault F1!

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 22 May 2012, 12:10

You and your cycling sponsors! :lol:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 22 May 2012, 12:17

Just name them Magnum Renault. :lol:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 22 May 2012, 12:20

AndreaModa wrote:You and your cycling sponsors!

Can't see any problem with it though.

Although I would prefer Farnese Vini - Renault! :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 May 2012, 12:22

AndreaModa wrote:You and your cycling sponsors!

Sky McLaren Mercedes
Lampre ISD Ferrari
Movistar HRT
Scuderia Liquigas
Radioshack Red Bull Nissan
AG2R Renault
Rapha Condor Williams
Raleigh Marussia
IG Sigma Caterham
Atlas Personal Sauber
Astana Force India

:mrgreen:

Post by **mario** » 22 May 2012, 12:36

AndreaModa wrote:
Shadaza wrote:I am actually impressed with Team Lotus Enstone, they seem keen to press their actual teams history (have features on Toleman and Benetton) and of course naming the car the E20 with the stars to represent their 3 constructors titles. They are not claiming a fake history like a certain team on the grid tried too.

Danny Bahar just drags the team down, I hope he is paying them a pretty penny.

It's nice to see isn't it? My money is on another name change within the next year or two to something less controversial.

I thought that the big problem with that deal was that Lotus hadn't delivered on its promises, leading to a significant restructuring of the relationship between the two sides (there was a report some time back in Autosport that the team are still using the Lotus name, but Group Lotus are no longer officially sponsoring the team - here's an old post from Adam Cooper that confirms the change in the relationship between the two sides http://adamcooperf1.com/2012/04/11/grou ... -lotus-f1/ ).
Logically, you have to assume that the team are looking for a replacement title sponsor for next year, and kostas22 has a point in that the team might seek to capitalise on the recent resurgence in interest within France in Formula 1 to pick up a major sponsor (Grosjean is now looking fairly competitive, and they have links with the French motor sport world via Boullier and Renault). If the French GP did make its way back onto the calendar - even if negotiations have stalled a bit in recent weeks - that might well boost the odds of a few French companies seeking to cash in on that success, and a major team with high profile drivers looking for new sponsorship would surely be a tempting target...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 May 2012, 13:50

mario wrote:
AndreaModa wrote:
Shadaza wrote:I am actually impressed with Team Lotus Enstone, they seem keen to press their actual teams history (have features on Toleman and Benetton) and of course naming the car the E20 with the stars to represent their 3 constructors titles. They are not claiming a fake history like a certain team on the grid tried too.

Danny Bahar just drags the team down, I hope he is paying them a pretty penny.

It's nice to see isn't it? My money is on another name change within the next year or two to something less controversial.

I thought that the big problem with that deal was that Lotus hadn't delivered on its promises, leading to a significant restructuring of the relationship between the two sides (there was a report some time back in Autosport that the team are still using the Lotus name, but Group Lotus are no longer officially sponsoring the team - here's an old post from Adam Cooper that confirms the change in the relationship between the two sides http://adamcooperf1.com/2012/04/11/grou ... -lotus-f1/ ).
Logically, you have to assume that the team are looking for a replacement title sponsor for next year, and kostas22 has a point in that the team might seek to capitalise on the recent resurgence in interest within France in Formula 1 to pick up a major sponsor (Grosjean is now looking fairly competitive, and they have links with the French motor sport world via Boullier and Renault). If the French GP did make its way back onto the calendar - even if negotiations have stalled a bit in recent weeks - that might well boost the odds of a few French companies seeking to cash in on that success, and a major team with high profile drivers looking for new sponsorship would surely be a tempting target...

Orange are rumoured to have been looking to re-enter F1, I remember them beign linked to Mercedes before the Petronas deal went through. Genii have a scenario where they have a strong argument to persuade them to come onboard.

In France, Orange's foothold in the mobile phone market is being threatened by relative newcomer Free Mobile, and as a result they have launched a new brand called Sosh to try and compete. Perhaps by using both Orange and Sosh branding (perhaps the latter being focused on Grosjean's car), they can market two areas at once - direct head-to-head against Vodafone on a worldwide scale, and against Free Mobile in France.

If I were Eric Boullier I would be contacting Orange ASAP looking to get this deal done...

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 22 May 2012, 14:57

kostas22 wrote:Sky McLaren Mercedes
Lampre ISD Ferrari
Movistar HRT
Scuderia Liquigas
Radioshack Red Bull Nissan
AG2R Renault
Rapha Condor Williams
Raleigh Marussia
IG Sigma Caterham
Atlas Personal Sauber
Astana Force India

Where's Mercedes.

I'm assuming Scuderia Liquigas is Toro Rosso.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 May 2012, 16:51

redbulljack14 wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Sky McLaren Mercedes
Lampre ISD Ferrari
Movistar HRT
Scuderia Liquigas
Radioshack Red Bull Nissan
AG2R Renault
Rapha Condor Williams
Raleigh Marussia
IG Sigma Caterham
Atlas Personal Sauber
Astana Force India

Where's Mercedes.

I'm assuming Scuderia Liquigas is Toro Rosso.

Correct.

Mercedes would have to be either NetApp Mercedes or Team Eddy Merckx Mercedes. I prefer the latter for obvious reasons

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 14 Jun 2012, 08:39

After going through various old posts from the first year of this forum, I am really disappointed that I missed out on all the fun.

(Then again I was only 11 at the time, so I probably wasn't mature enough to be on a forum back then.)

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 14 Jun 2012, 08:46

eurobrun wrote:After going through various old posts from the first year of this forum, I am really disappointed that I missed out on all the fun.

(Then again I was only 11 at the time, so I probably wasn't mature enough to be on a forum back then.

Didn't stop our esteemed friend Mr Metcalf :lol:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 14 Jun 2012, 10:10

Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:After going through various old posts from the first year of this forum, I am really disappointed that I missed out on all the fun.

(Then again I was only 11 at the time, so I probably wasn't mature enough to be on a forum back then.

Didn't stop our esteemed friend Mr Metcalf

Wonder if he'll come back?

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 Jun 2012, 10:12

dr-baker wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:After going through various old posts from the first year of this forum, I am really disappointed that I missed out on all the fun.

(Then again I was only 11 at the time, so I probably wasn't mature enough to be on a forum back then.

Didn't stop our esteemed friend Mr Metcalf

Wonder if he'll come back?

Hope not.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 14 Jun 2012, 10:16

AdrianSutil wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Didn't stop our esteemed friend Mr Metcalf

Wonder if he'll come back?

Hope not.

Why, may I ask?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 Jun 2012, 10:17

AdrianSutil wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Didn't stop our esteemed friend Mr Metcalf

Wonder if he'll come back?

Hope not.

Why not? The kid is getting older each passing that and will mature. In about 10 to 15 years time, that is...

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 Jun 2012, 10:25

DanielPT wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Hope not.

Why not? The kid is getting older each passing that and will mature. In about 10 to 15 years time, that is...

Got nothing against him, he's just a bit too young to be surfing the net. Maybe times have changed, I didn't get my first computer until I was 16 afterall.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 Jun 2012, 10:37

AdrianSutil wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Hope not.

Why not? The kid is getting older each passing that and will mature. In about 10 to 15 years time, that is...

Got nothing against him, he's just a bit too young to be surfing the net. Maybe times have changed, I didn't get my first computer until I was 16 afterall.

I think you shouldn't hold a grudge for that. That is the sign of times. I hadn't a cellphone until I was 18 and now they are practically born with them. Yes, Internet has its dangers, but hopefully his parents watch him and advise him about it. Which might also explain why he is absent from this forum...

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 14 Jun 2012, 10:44

I don't hold a grudge. I have no need to. Maybe it was a bit strong with me saying I hope he won't come back. I just don't like seeing kids as young as him (8 wasn't he?) spent too much time on the Internet or generally being indoors. I never spent much time outside as a young kid and I regret it now. The freedom you can have when your that age can be over in an instant. I'm 25 now and it would look a bit strange me going out and 'playing' :lol:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 Jun 2012, 11:01

AdrianSutil wrote:I don't hold a grudge. I have no need to. Maybe it was a bit strong with me saying I hope he won't come back. I just don't like seeing kids as young as him (8 wasn't he?) spent too much time on the Internet or generally being indoors. I never spent much time outside as a young kid and I regret it now. The freedom you can have when your that age can be over in an instant. I'm 25 now and it would look a bit strange me going out and 'playing'

Not to mention that 'playing' outside would probably break a few laws. :lol:

I too never spent much time outside specially after making 12/13 years old. It could have been different today, but I don't regret it. I was happy doing it at the time and so much so, that I didn't wanted otherwise. I had the freedom to chose between the two lives, luckily, so I leave it with the kids today. Its up to them to have that choice and then live with it afterwards.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 14 Jun 2012, 15:07

But, then again, you can still participate in this forum and have an active social life. Days are longer than many people think!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 14 Jun 2012, 17:28

Phoenix wrote:But, then again, you can still participate in this forum and have an active social life. Days are longer than many people think!

It's 6:30pm, I'm still in college since 9am and having to watch Italia vs Croatia in a classroom while working on the huge backlog of stuff that needs done by tomorrow. The 90 minute commute back to my home in the middle of nowhere is yet to come. The day isn't long enough for me

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 Jun 2012, 18:01

kostas22 wrote:
Phoenix wrote:But, then again, you can still participate in this forum and have an active social life. Days are longer than many people think!

It's 6:30pm, I'm still in college since 9am and having to watch Italia vs Croatia in a classroom while working on the huge backlog of stuff that needs done by tomorrow. The 90 minute commute back to my home in the middle of nowhere is yet to come. The day isn't long enough for me

Stop posting and get back to work then! :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 14 Jun 2012, 19:42

DanielPT wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
Phoenix wrote:But, then again, you can still participate in this forum and have an active social life. Days are longer than many people think!

It's 6:30pm, I'm still in college since 9am and having to watch Italia vs Croatia in a classroom while working on the huge backlog of stuff that needs done by tomorrow. The 90 minute commute back to my home in the middle of nowhere is yet to come. The day isn't long enough for me

Stop posting and get back to work then!

I spent 10 hours there! I need small breaks to keep my mind in check! It's enough to drive a man insane if you don't stop for a little while :lol:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 Jun 2012, 22:04

kostas22 wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
kostas22 wrote:It's 6:30pm, I'm still in college since 9am and having to watch Italia vs Croatia in a classroom while working on the huge backlog of stuff that needs done by tomorrow. The 90 minute commute back to my home in the middle of nowhere is yet to come. The day isn't long enough for me

Stop posting and get back to work then!

I spent 10 hours there! I need small breaks to keep my mind in check! It's enough to drive a man insane if you don't stop for a little while

I understand what you mean. Although I got berated today by a co-worker, who sent an email mind you, for and I quote "passing too much time on 'chats' and in the Internet because every time I go there you are writing on the browser". I was wondering when would that happen, actually... Guess I won't post so much from now on during the day.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Jun 2012, 00:23

Phoenix wrote:But, then again, you can still participate in this forum and have an active social life. Days are longer than many people think!

I have probably got a bit more of a social life recently. (for example I might be going too see a movie on the weekend with that girl and her group of friends)

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 15 Jun 2012, 02:49

eurobrun wrote:
Phoenix wrote:But, then again, you can still participate in this forum and have an active social life. Days are longer than many people think!

I have probably got a bit more of a social life recently. (for example I might be going too see a movie on the weekend with that girl and her group of friends)

Turning into a bit of a player are we?

Something to possibly discuss, but if HRT get rid of Karthikeyen and promote Clos, I'd reckon that'll be one of the best pairings in F1 this year. An experienced level-headed driver in PDLR with a talented hard-charging youngster in Clos. I reckon that would be a great thing for HRT.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Jun 2012, 03:01

AdrianSutil wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
Phoenix wrote:But, then again, you can still participate in this forum and have an active social life. Days are longer than many people think!

I have probably got a bit more of a social life recently. (for example I might be going too see a movie on the weekend with that girl and her group of friends)

Turning into a bit of a player are we?

Certainly a lot better than having no life.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Jun 2012, 03:06

eurobrun wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I have probably got a bit more of a social life recently. (for example I might be going too see a movie on the weekend with that girl and her group of friends)

Turning into a bit of a player are we?

Certainly a lot better than having no life.

Just keep your feet on the ground and reach for the stars, kid. :mrgreen:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Jun 2012, 03:17

Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Turning into a bit of a player are we?

Certainly a lot better than having no life.

Just keep your feet on the ground and reach for the stars, kid.

Well I actually have a real reason to see her this timr as we have a school project that I need to talk to her about.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 15 Jun 2012, 06:09

I'd better play the Baker's Law card now... :roll:

*dodges from papaya rain*

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Jun 2012, 06:22

FMecha wrote:I'd better play the Baker's Law card now...

*dodges from papaya rain*

My name is not dr-baker.

Post by **Londoner** » 15 Jun 2012, 06:58

That has to be the worst invoking of Baker's Law, ever. Therefore, I nominate FMecha as ROTT (Reject of the Thread).

Back on topic, you have to wonder just how well Williams could be doing in the championship if their drivers didn't keep throwing away chances.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 15 Jun 2012, 07:17

I wonder how the world media is going to react when someone wins a second race this season?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 15 Jun 2012, 08:03

CoopsII wrote:I wonder how the world media is going to react when someone wins a second race this season?

They will winge all the way through of how this season started so well and now became too much predictable! :lol: