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DanielPT wrote:
CoopsII wrote:I wonder how the world media is going to react when someone wins a second race this season?


They will winge all the way through of how this season started so well and now became too much predictable! :lol:


Unless Maldonado wins again...
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WaffleCat wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
CoopsII wrote:I wonder how the world media is going to react when someone wins a second race this season?


They will winge all the way through of how this season started so well and now became too much predictable! :lol:


Unless Maldonado wins again...


Marko will complain if Webber were to win a second race.
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CoopsII wrote:I wonder how the world media is going to react IF someone wins a second race this season?


fixed....

im still hoping we get 20 winners.......
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CoopsII wrote:I wonder how the world media is going to react IF someone wins a second race this season?


Depends on who it is.
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eurobrun wrote:
CoopsII wrote:I wonder how the world media is going to react IF someone wins a second race this season?


Depends on who it is.

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kostas22 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
CoopsII wrote:I wonder how the world media is going to react IF someone wins a second race this season?


Depends on who it is.

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No. Just no.
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eurobrun wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Grosjean Image


No. Just no.

Face it, he's going to be world champion for the next 2 seasons Image
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eurobrun wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Grosjean Image


No. Just no.

Face it, he's going to be world champion for the next 2 seasons Image


Get the bathplug over yourself, with the exception of Canada* Raikkonen has been much better in race conditions, besides no one is ever going to win a championship from crashing out three times in seven races. Image



*China was due to his strategist being a failure.
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eurobrun wrote:Get the bathplug over yourself, with the exception of Canada* Raikkonen has been much better in race conditions, besides no one is ever going to win a championship from crashing out three times in seven races. Image



*China was due to his strategist being a failure.


Jacques Villeneuve begs to differ. As does Nelson Piquet.
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eurobrun wrote:
CoopsII wrote:I wonder how the world media is going to react IF someone wins a second race this season?


Depends on who it is.

Would love it if it were a Williams driver! Don't care which...
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Get the bathplug over yourself, with the exception of Canada* Raikkonen has been much better in race conditions, besides no one is ever going to win a championship from crashing out three times in seven races. Image



*China was due to his strategist being a failure.


Jacques Villeneuve begs to differ. As does Nelson Piquet.


Though you could debate that JV won his championship thanks to Michael Schumacher being way too clumsy, and Piquet's '81 championship due to the squabbling between Reutemann and Jones.
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JeremyMcClean wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Get the bathplug over yourself, with the exception of Canada* Raikkonen has been much better in race conditions, besides no one is ever going to win a championship from crashing out three times in seven races. Image



*China was due to his strategist being a failure.


Jacques Villeneuve begs to differ. As does Nelson Piquet.


Though you could debate that JV won his championship thanks to Michael Schumacher being way too clumsy, and Piquet's '81 championship due to the squabbling between Reutemann and Jones.


That's besides the point. They still both won, while having 3 DNFs in 7 races.
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What have you got against Grosjean?
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fjackdaw wrote:What have you got against Grosjean?

Clearly he is in denial at GRRSJJNNN's brilliance. Either that, or he's stuck in 2009. :lol:
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I had a quite long post typed out but I lost internet connection just as I was about to post. And I really can't be bothered retyping it. And it was just semicoherent nonsense about how crap Auto GP is. :lol:
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eurobrun wrote:I had a quite long post typed out but I lost internet connection just as I was about to post. And I really can't be bothered retyping it. And it was just semicoherent nonsense about how crap Auto GP is. :lol:

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kostas22 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I had a quite long post typed out but I lost internet connection just as I was about to post. And I really can't be bothered retyping it. And it was just semicoherent nonsense about how crap Auto GP is. :lol:

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redbulljack14 wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I had a quite long post typed out but I lost internet connection just as I was about to post. And I really can't be bothered retyping it. And it was just semicoherent nonsense about how crap Auto GP is. :lol:

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That dancing emoticon is hypnotising.

So is Grosjean.
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kostas22 wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
kostas22 wrote:You can't handle the fact a driver you once said was rubbish is now owning you by bossing Image


That dancing emoticon is hypnotising.

So is Grosjean.


Really? You clearly need to see a doctor. :lol:
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kostas22 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I had a quite long post typed out but I lost internet connection just as I was about to post. And I really can't be bothered retyping it. And it was just semicoherent nonsense about how crap Auto GP is. :lol:

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kostas22 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I had a quite long post typed out but I lost internet connection just as I was about to post. And I really can't be bothered retyping it. And it was just semicoherent nonsense about how crap Auto GP is. :lol:

You can't handle the fact a driver you once said was rubbish is now owning you by bossing Image


Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

How can a driver ever be classified as "bossing" if they have crashed out three times, two of which were completely his fault and the other one was at least half his fault. And has only managed to beat his teammate on merit once, who was a fomer champion but has been out of open wheel racing for two whole years.

So stop acting like the F1 version of the redneck Dale Jr fanboys in NASCAR. :roll:
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eurobrun wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I had a quite long post typed out but I lost internet connection just as I was about to post. And I really can't be bothered retyping it. And it was just semicoherent nonsense about how crap Auto GP is. :lol:

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Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

How can a driver ever be classified as "bossing" if they have crashed out three times, two of which were completely his fault and the other one was at least half his fault. And has only managed to beat his teammate on merit once, who was a fomer champion but has been out of open wheel racing for two whole years.

So stop acting like the F1 version of the redneck Dale Jr fanboys in NASCAR. :roll:


Grosjean has been trashing Raikkonen in qualifying pretty much all year. And everyone knows Kimi is probably one of the fastest drivers in history for out and out pace.
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And how many points do you get for qualifying?
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eurobrun wrote:And how many points do you get for qualifying?


Thing is, Grrrrjjjnnnnnnn is a bit wild right now, but he already show he has the one lap pace. He only needs to string a few of those together without crashing in the middle and there you go.
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DanielPT wrote:
eurobrun wrote:And how many points do you get for qualifying?


Thing is, Grrrrjjjnnnnnnn is a bit wild right now, but he already show he has the one lap pace. He only needs to string a few of those together without crashing in the middle and there you go.


Yes, he is a good qualifier, but I find it very hard to like anyone who keeps on throwing away good results with stupid mistakes.
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eurobrun wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
eurobrun wrote:And how many points do you get for qualifying?


Thing is, Grrrrjjjnnnnnnn is a bit wild right now, but he already show he has the one lap pace. He only needs to string a few of those together without crashing in the middle and there you go.


Yes, he is a good qualifier, but I find it very hard to like anyone who keeps on throwing away good results with stupid mistakes.


I bet then you will love Grrrjjjjjnnnnnn when he stops destroying his qualifying good work. Eventually...
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DanielPT wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
Thing is, Grrrrjjjnnnnnnn is a bit wild right now, but he already show he has the one lap pace. He only needs to string a few of those together without crashing in the middle and there you go.


Yes, he is a good qualifier, but I find it very hard to like anyone who keeps on throwing away good results with stupid mistakes.


I bet then you will love Grrrjjjjjnnnnnn when he stops destroying his qualifying good work. Eventually...


Rrrrmmmmnnnn has already converted me. He's been a match for Raikkonen even when the Iceman has been on top form (See Bahrain and Spain). Before this year, I honestly thought that he would go the way of the Pantano.

Someone who IS heading the way of Pantano however is one Nico Hulkenberg who in two years has gone from 'the next big thing' to 'the next big flop' with nobody to blame but himself
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DanielPT wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
Thing is, Grrrrjjjnnnnnnn is a bit wild right now, but he already show he has the one lap pace. He only needs to string a few of those together without crashing in the middle and there you go.


Yes, he is a good qualifier, but I find it very hard to like anyone who keeps on throwing away good results with stupid mistakes.


I bet then you will love Grrrjjjjjnnnnnn when he stops destroying his qualifying good work. Eventually...


That is not the only reason I don't like him, mainly because Kostas22 is acting like an annoying (insert word here) and is so arrogant when he does well. :roll:
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eurobrun wrote:And how many points do you get for qualifying?

Quite - Buemi managed to beat Alguersuari more often than not in qualifying last year, but Alguersuari finished a long way ahead of Buemi in the WDC (Buemi was ultimately unlucky on a number of occasions though). Hamilton also regularly outqualified Button in 2011, although it did him little good all too often that year, whilst Petrov outqualified Heidfeld more often than not but was being beaten by Heidfeld in the WDC before he was kicked out . Whilst out and out single lap speed is important, it isn't the be all and end all given that the points are awarded on Sunday. Kimi has had a couple of poor races recently, but when he is happy with the car he is clearly quick (he picked up those two podiums on merit).

Grosjean is, when he can string it together, quick and has evident talent, but at the moment he is still a bit too wild and ragged to apply that talent consistently - it's something he's carried over from GP2 where, due to the sprint format of the races and the spec nature of the cars, the drivers tend to be much more aggressive, almost desperate, in the races.

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That is certainly true - whilst Di Resta and Hulkenberg have been fairly close together in qualifying (with Di Resta having a slight edge there), in the races Di Resta has, excluding Australia (where Hulkenberg retired), beaten Hulkenberg in all but one race, and currently has three times as many points. Hulkenberg certainly needs to improve his form in that sense, because at the moment Di Resta is consistently beating him by a substantial margin.
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The Lotus team reading far too much into qualifying results, at the worst time. Qualifying is no longer that much of a way of comparing driver talent or speed, as it's really a contest to see who can give themselves the most fresh tyres for the race. As you can see from the current standings, Raikkonen is doing a better job, though Grosjean has been a victim of some miserable luck.
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I just have to say I had my first Magnum Ice Cream and I can understand why Kimi love(d) them so much. Even with high sugar blood levels I know I'll be having more of them in the future.
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Guzuky wrote:I just have to say I had my first Magnum Ice Cream and I can understand why Kimi love(d) them so much. Even with high sugar blood levels I know I'll be having more of them in the future.


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If F1 never left Brands Hatch in 1986, and the circuit became the permanent host of the British Grand Prix from then on, what would the circuit look like today? Would they have cleared the woods all around the track for grandstands? Would they change the layout? Would the circuit be longer? Discuss.
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F1000X wrote:If F1 never left Brands Hatch in 1986, and the circuit became the permanent host of the British Grand Prix from then on, what would the circuit look like today? Would they have cleared the woods all around the track for grandstands? Would they change the layout? Would the circuit be longer? Discuss.


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LellaLombardi wrote:Mr Lella is watching this programme called Game of Thrones. There is a dwarf actor in it that looks just like Sebastian Vettel and sounds like Stewie Griffin

Wait, are you actually comparing Peter Dinklage to Sebastian Vettel? :lol:
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Since the one record Michael Schumacher can never have is the youngest ever driver record, it occurred to me that he would have had to have debuted very early in the 1988 season to have that record. Imagine if he did do that and he was still racing.
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redbulljack14 wrote:Since the one record Michael Schumacher can never have is the youngest ever driver record, it occurred to me that he would have had to have debuted very early in the 1988 season to have that record. Imagine if he did do that and he was still racing.


He would be the only F1 driver to compete in four different decades.
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Who is the youngest? I'm thinking it's between Mike Thackwell, Esteban Tuero and Alguersuari.
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