Klon wrote:The only difference between Pastor Maldonado and Ayrton Senna is the former has not won a world championship yet.
One is Venezuelan, the other is Brazilian. One has won for Williams-Renault, the other sadly did not. One has a nephew racing in F1, it is unclear whether the other will or not. One is a pay-driver, the other was not.
This is why you don't have a skill of not being nitpicky. While Senna didn't pay for his F1 seat the fact that he came from a rich Brazilian family sure didn't hurt his chances of making F1.
kostas22 wrote:There is no such thing as a two car team at the sharp end of Formula One anymore.
McLaren - seems to alternate between the two year-on-year, but one always seems to end up on top Ferrari - clear and obvious Red Bull - ditto Mercedes - Not sure. Schumi ought to be the number one, but it's Rosberg collecting all the points and Mercedes's first win...
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kostas22 wrote:There is no such thing as a two car team at the sharp end of Formula One anymore.
McLaren - seems to alternate between the two year-on-year, but one always seems to end up on top Ferrari - clear and obvious Red Bull - ditto Mercedes - Not sure. Schumi ought to be the number one, but it's Rosberg collecting all the points and Mercedes's first win...
It's obvious one driver will always do slightly better than the other, but in a team like McLaren, and I believe Mercedes and Lotus as well, it isn't clear cut and both drivers have shared the success and get equal chances. Ferrari is blatantly obvious, and whilst Red Bull is less so, it's common knowledge that the team prefer Vettel over Webber.
I wouldn't say two car teams are finished at the front in F1 just yet, besides having a number 1 driver and a number 2 isn't anything new.
eurobrun wrote:In the next couple of years HRT will become too competent to be interesting. It's already starting to happen now.
Spanish qualifying wasn't that long ago, the weekend where HRT didn't let Karthikeyen back out in Q1 because his on-board camera was loose. They're getting more professional and organized by each passing race, but golden nuggets like that one will still crop up now and again.
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LellaLombardi wrote:Kimi Raikkonen's comeback is pretty boring actually and he looks like he's going through the motions again already.
Three podiums.
And, of course, the ability to score podiums means that, by definition, you are being a dynamic and engaging driver, who is extracting more than should be possible from the car at every turn and deserves the interest of everyone watching. Just look at Nick Heidfeld, Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fisichella, if you need any more evidence.
Cynon wrote:Look further down the field, enjoy the view of the little guys and/or crap drivers in cars too good for them giving their all for a meager result.
Because that's what I thought this forum celebrates the most.
LellaLombardi wrote:Kimi Raikkonen's comeback is pretty boring actually and he looks like he's going through the motions again already.
Three podiums.
And, of course, the ability to score podiums means that, by definition, you are being a dynamic and engaging driver, who is extracting more than should be possible from the car at every turn and deserves the interest of everyone watching. Just look at Nick Heidfeld, Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fisichella, if you need any more evidence.
I was thinking of redoing the old Save_Us.RSC avatar idea, but I couldn't get it into a proper size with the text still being readable - so have Kimi going off-track instead.
Better save that pic, lord knows how long it will stay online.
I was thinking of redoing the old Save_Us.RSC avatar idea, but I couldn't get it into a proper size with the text still being readable - so have Kimi going off-track instead.
Better save that pic, lord knows how long it will stay online.
I'm yet to think of an avatar for you, i'll return with one at some point.
I was thinking of redoing the old Save_Us.RSC avatar idea, but I couldn't get it into a proper size with the text still being readable - so have Kimi going off-track instead.
Better save that pic, lord knows how long it will stay online.
I'm yet to think of an avatar for you, i'll return with one at some point.
You can have this as your avatar if Kimi wins at Spa.
LellaLombardi wrote:Kimi Raikkonen's comeback is pretty boring actually and he looks like he's going through the motions again already.
Three podiums.
And, of course, the ability to score podiums means that, by definition, you are being a dynamic and engaging driver, who is extracting more than should be possible from the car at every turn and deserves the interest of everyone watching. Just look at Nick Heidfeld, Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fisichella, if you need any more evidence.
I'll add to that point by saying if Lotus/Renault hadn't dumped Heidfeld in the middle of last year, he'd be doing about as well as Kimi is now (but be slower than Grosjean).
(He wouldn't have been challenging Vettel in Bahrain though but could have gained in other races).
"Poor old Warwick takes it from behind all throughout this season". (Tony Jardine, 1988)
JeremyMcClean wrote:Personally I find Kovalainen overrated and the only reason I'm neutral to him is because he has to drive the crapbox known as the Caterham.
I wouldn't say he's overrated, he was just rushed into a big team. Did well at Renault in 2007 (which were now crap) and all of a sudden, sees himself being trounced by Hamilton at McLaren, which mustve hurt. Somewhere like Caterham is where he needs to stay.
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JeremyMcClean wrote:Personally I find Kovalainen overrated and the only reason I'm neutral to him is because he has to drive the crapbox known as the Caterham.
I wouldn't say he's overrated, he was just rushed into a big team. Did well at Renault in 2007 (which were now crap) and all of a sudden, sees himself being trounced by Hamilton at McLaren, which mustve hurt. Somewhere like Caterham is where he needs to stay.
In a way, precisely! He's crap, but he doesn't deserve abuse from Caterham... I'd say he's probably more fit at Williams circa 2011. But what do I know?
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JeremyMcClean wrote:Personally I find Kovalainen overrated and the only reason I'm neutral to him is because he has to drive the crapbox known as the Caterham.
I wouldn't say he's overrated, he was just rushed into a big team. Did well at Renault in 2007 (which were now crap) and all of a sudden, sees himself being trounced by Hamilton at McLaren, which mustve hurt. Somewhere like Caterham is where he needs to stay.
In a way, precisely! He's crap, but he doesn't deserve abuse from Caterham... I'd say he's probably more fit at Williams circa 2011. But what do I know?
Maybe I didn't write the comment in the way I wanted to. What I mean is I don't think he's overrated at all. Just rushed.
But this is the unpopular opinion thread so it's worked
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darkapprentice77 wrote:Sakon Yamamoto wasn't that bad.
I kinda agree. The 'pay-driver' tag didn't help, even if his drives with Super Aguri, Hispania and Spyker were sponsorship driven. Franck Montagny didn't exactly shine in the Aguri either, so I'd put Sakon level in skill with him.
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No. Bourdais < Vettel... but not by that much. Certainly not as much as Bourdais' performance at Toro Rosso would suggest.
Agreed. Bourdais was soundly beaten by Vettel but it wasn't by anywhere near as much as the scoreboard suggests. By all rights, Bourdais should have finished 4th in Australia, in the points in Japan and on the podium in Belgium.
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Wizzie wrote:Agreed. Bourdais was soundly beaten by Vettel but it wasn't by anywhere near as much as the scoreboard suggests. By all rights, Bourdais should have finished 4th in Australia, in the points in Japan and on the podium in Belgium.
And probably high in the points, perhaps even a podium, in Italy.
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Wizzie wrote:Agreed. Bourdais was soundly beaten by Vettel but it wasn't by anywhere near as much as the scoreboard suggests. By all rights, Bourdais should have finished 4th in Australia, in the points in Japan and on the podium in Belgium.
And probably high in the points, perhaps even a podium, in Italy.
Which actually proves my point about Toro Rosso being the best of the rest in 2008, better on the whole than Renault and certainly much better than the muppets over at the A-team.
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Wizzie wrote:Agreed. Bourdais was soundly beaten by Vettel but it wasn't by anywhere near as much as the scoreboard suggests. By all rights, Bourdais should have finished 4th in Australia, in the points in Japan and on the podium in Belgium.
And probably high in the points, perhaps even a podium, in Italy.
Which actually proves my point about Toro Rosso being the best of the rest in 2008, better on the whole than Renault and certainly much better than the muppets over at the A-team.
Although (with the possible exception of the second half of 2011) they have been shite ever since.
aerond wrote:Yes RDD, but we always knew you never had any sort of taste either
tommykl wrote:I have a shite car and meme sponsors, but Corrado Fabi will carry me to the promised land with the power of Lionel Richie.
Wizzie wrote:Agreed. Bourdais was soundly beaten by Vettel but it wasn't by anywhere near as much as the scoreboard suggests. By all rights, Bourdais should have finished 4th in Australia, in the points in Japan and on the podium in Belgium.
Bourdais was faster than Vettel during the race at Italy -- but a steering wheel glitch put him a lap down immediately. A podium result was certainly on the cards.
(Tony Jardine, 1988)
But what do I know?
