Rantbox

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 27 Oct 2009, 19:08

Why hasn't McLaren signed Taku as Heikki's replacement already?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 27 Oct 2009, 19:50

tristan1117 wrote:I think they should sack Bernie and replace him with Vatanen instead.

That IS objectionable.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 27 Oct 2009, 20:26

tristan1117 wrote:I think they should sack Bernie and replace him with Vatanen instead.

Can't someone just murder Bernie and use "he was so old he'd probably die soon anyway" as the excuse?

Btw, I love your Phoenix Wright avatar. ^_^

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 27 Oct 2009, 21:28

Toyota was class of the field in Brazil. Trulli at the front and a new guy in the midfield? One decent driver and it was theirs to win.

Ross Prawn · Post by **Ross Prawn** » 27 Oct 2009, 21:40

Maybe Mansell will appear in one of the new teams. After all he never retired and its a month or so since his last comeback.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 28 Oct 2009, 14:36

Ross Prawn wrote:Maybe Mansell will appear in one of the new teams. After all he never retired and its a month or so since his last comeback.

Maybe to replace Nakajima at Williams?

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 28 Oct 2009, 14:39

Next year could set new records in on-track dullness, unfortunately.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 28 Oct 2009, 16:52

shinji wrote:Next year could set new records in on-track dullness, unfortunately.

The thing which gives me hope on that front is that, without refuelling, they don't have the old "it's all about strategy*" excuse. If the first few races are boring, they'll have to do something about it urgently.

(cf a 1998 interview with Max in F1 News magazine, in which he said that F1 was "like chess" and that people were more interested in the strategy than they were in overtaking).

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 28 Oct 2009, 16:55

fjackdaw wrote:
shinji wrote:Next year could set new records in on-track dullness, unfortunately.

The thing which gives me hope on that front is that, without refuelling, they don't have the old "it's all about strategy*" excuse. If the first few races are boring, they'll have to do something about it urgently.

(cf a 1998 interview with Max in F1 News magazine, in which he said that F1 was "like chess" and that people were more interested in the strategy than they were in overtaking).

My problem is the lack of refuelling. Strategic pit stops are the practically the only thing that provides position changes over a race these days.

(What is F1 News magazine?)

Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 28 Oct 2009, 17:04

shinji wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:
shinji wrote:Next year could set new records in on-track dullness, unfortunately.

The thing which gives me hope on that front is that, without refuelling, they don't have the old "it's all about strategy*" excuse. If the first few races are boring, they'll have to do something about it urgently.

(cf a 1998 interview with Max in F1 News magazine, in which he said that F1 was "like chess" and that people were more interested in the strategy than they were in overtaking).

My problem is the lack of refuelling. Strategic pit stops are the practically the only thing that provides position changes over a race these days.

(What is F1 News magazine?)

There will stil be the pit stops, just less of them as drivers try and make their tyres last as long as possible. I do think that banning refueling will help overtaking but I don't think it is enough myself. The bulletproof reliability is the next thing that has to go.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 28 Oct 2009, 21:42

bring back turbos.... if not just for the spectacular turbo fires......

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 28 Oct 2009, 22:20

shinji wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:
shinji wrote:Next year could set new records in on-track dullness, unfortunately.

The thing which gives me hope on that front is that, without refuelling, they don't have the old "it's all about strategy*" excuse. If the first few races are boring, they'll have to do something about it urgently.

(cf a 1998 interview with Max in F1 News magazine, in which he said that F1 was "like chess" and that people were more interested in the strategy than they were in overtaking).

My problem is the lack of refuelling. Strategic pit stops are the practically the only thing that provides position changes over a race these days.

(What is F1 News magazine?)

That's what I mean, though - if there's literally nothing happening in the races, not even strategic fuel stops, they'll have to do something urgently about making the actual racing better. With the fuel stops, they could say, "It's strategic, it's a game of chess". Without them, they're going to have to sort out the racing or haemorrhage viewers.

F1 News was a late-90s, early 00s mag with slightly more humorous leanings, that shut down not long after its editor died. I remember buying a few now-defunct ones - one, whose name I can't remember, which was mostly comic in nature, and I think fold-out. And then there was the more upmarket, and rather boring, Formula One Magazine.

In fact, this may be worth a thread of its own.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 28 Oct 2009, 23:02

I'd rather see "The Fast and The Furious" than "Jenson Button, WDC". The driving is just as awful, but TF&TF makes up for it with interesting characters.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 29 Oct 2009, 14:59

Who actually likes this sport? Out of 200 well off 15 year olds in my year there are two (yes, two) F1 fans. And by fans, I mean they know who Adrian Sutil is. They are me, and one other who watches races but can't really hold a conversation on the sport. So that's 1 fan in a 100 in a group of people made up of the people who F1 is aimed at.

Then there's the two biggest world population centres, India and China, both of which are not exactly hotbeds of Formula One fandom. Neither is the US.

So F1, which has some of the biggest financial involvement in sport, has practically no fans. Strange.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 29 Oct 2009, 16:32

shinji wrote:Who actually likes this sport? Out of 200 well off 15 year olds in my year there are two (yes, two) F1 fans. And by fans, I mean they know who Adrian Sutil is. They are me, and one other who watches races but can't really hold a conversation on the sport. So that's 1 fan in a 100 in a group of people made up of the people who F1 is aimed at.

Then there's the two biggest world population centres, India and China, both of which are not exactly hotbeds of Formula One fandom. Neither is the US.

So F1, which has some of the biggest financial involvement in sport, has practically no fans. Strange.

Tell me about it. There were also only two F1 fans in my year, and one left in the summer :lol:

. And what surprised me the most is they were both girls. Though if I say Jean-Denis Deletraz to anybody I have met face-to-face in my entire life, and they go 'whozat????'.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 29 Oct 2009, 16:39

kostas22 wrote:
shinji wrote:Who actually likes this sport? Out of 200 well off 15 year olds in my year there are two (yes, two) F1 fans. And by fans, I mean they know who Adrian Sutil is. They are me, and one other who watches races but can't really hold a conversation on the sport. So that's 1 fan in a 100 in a group of people made up of the people who F1 is aimed at.

Then there's the two biggest world population centres, India and China, both of which are not exactly hotbeds of Formula One fandom. Neither is the US.

So F1, which has some of the biggest financial involvement in sport, has practically no fans. Strange.

Tell me about it. There were also only two F1 fans in my year, and one left in the summer . And what surprised me the most is they were both girls. Though if I say Jean-Denis Deletraz to anybody I have met face-to-face in my entire life, and they go 'whozat????'.

Heck, the same happens to me. Only one of my friends is somewhat fond of F1 and I can talk of F1 with him. This is one of the reasons why I post in this forum: I love racing but I hardly ever can have a formal talk about it.

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » 29 Oct 2009, 16:46

shinji wrote:Who actually likes this sport? Out of 200 well off 15 year olds in my year there are two (yes, two) F1 fans. And by fans, I mean they know who Adrian Sutil is. They are me, and one other who watches races but can't really hold a conversation on the sport. So that's 1 fan in a 100 in a group of people made up of the people who F1 is aimed at.

Then there's the two biggest world population centres, India and China, both of which are not exactly hotbeds of Formula One fandom. Neither is the US.

So F1, which has some of the biggest financial involvement in sport, has practically no fans. Strange.

I know one person who likes F1, and he spends more time talking about road cars and Top Gear than about F1. Most of my friends don't even know I like F1, no one talks about it unless there's been a big crash or something.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Oct 2009, 17:19

Debaser wrote:
shinji wrote:Who actually likes this sport? Out of 200 well off 15 year olds in my year there are two (yes, two) F1 fans. And by fans, I mean they know who Adrian Sutil is. They are me, and one other who watches races but can't really hold a conversation on the sport. So that's 1 fan in a 100 in a group of people made up of the people who F1 is aimed at.

Then there's the two biggest world population centres, India and China, both of which are not exactly hotbeds of Formula One fandom. Neither is the US.

So F1, which has some of the biggest financial involvement in sport, has practically no fans. Strange.

I know one person who likes F1, and he spends more time talking about road cars and Top Gear than about F1. Most of my friends don't even know I like F1, no one talks about it unless there's been a big crash or something.

It's worse here, I've come across maybe one, two people in the last few years who actually knows stuff about F1, and nobody talks about it full stop. Except during Crashgate, which elicited a "How the hell did he get her," comment from one of my friends who saw a picture of Flav with his wife (I'm assuming) in a newspaper.

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » 29 Oct 2009, 23:14

I'd say the vast majority of people here don't know the difference between F1, IRL, ALMS, V8 Supercars, or go karts.

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Debaser wrote:
shinji wrote:Who actually likes this sport? Out of 200 well off 15 year olds in my year there are two (yes, two) F1 fans. And by fans, I mean they know who Adrian Sutil is. They are me, and one other who watches races but can't really hold a conversation on the sport. So that's 1 fan in a 100 in a group of people made up of the people who F1 is aimed at.

Then there's the two biggest world population centres, India and China, both of which are not exactly hotbeds of Formula One fandom. Neither is the US.

So F1, which has some of the biggest financial involvement in sport, has practically no fans. Strange.

I know one person who likes F1, and he spends more time talking about road cars and Top Gear than about F1. Most of my friends don't even know I like F1, no one talks about it unless there's been a big crash or something.

It's worse here, I've come across maybe one, two people in the last few years who actually knows stuff about F1, and nobody talks about it full stop. Except during Crashgate, which elicited a "How the hell did he get her," comment from one of my friends who saw a picture of Flav with his wife (I'm assuming) in a newspaper.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 29 Oct 2009, 23:19

Jordan wrote:I'd say the vast majority of people here don't know the difference between F1, IRL, ALMS, V8 Supercars, or go karts.

What do you mean by that? Of course they do.

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » 29 Oct 2009, 23:22

By here, I mean Central Canada

shinji wrote:
Jordan wrote:I'd say the vast majority of people here don't know the difference between F1, IRL, ALMS, V8 Supercars, or go karts.

What do you mean by that? Of course they do.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 29 Oct 2009, 23:28

Jordan wrote:By here, I mean Central Canada

shinji wrote:
Jordan wrote:I'd say the vast majority of people here don't know the difference between F1, IRL, ALMS, V8 Supercars, or go karts.

What do you mean by that? Of course they do.

By having the quotes below your comment it made it seem you were making an example of the forum, I understand you now. And I feel for you.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 29 Oct 2009, 23:32

The showdown to watch for in 2010:

- Renault: Kubica, Glock, rubbish car.
- Toyota: Trulli, Cowboy-ashi, great car.

It will be neck-a-neck to see who fares worse.

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » 29 Oct 2009, 23:38

Hah, I see how you would interpret that. I know one F1 diehard, he's been to, in the last 3 years, Montreal, Singapore and Spa.

Jealous? yes I am

Debaser · Post by **Debaser** » 29 Oct 2009, 23:48

Jordan wrote:Hah, I see how you would interpret that. I know one F1 diehard, he's been to, in the last 3 years, Montreal, Singapore and Spa.

Jealous? yes I am

When you see the state his finances are in you may not be so jealous :lol:

Jordan · Post by **Jordan** » 30 Oct 2009, 00:06

Debaser wrote:
Jordan wrote:Hah, I see how you would interpret that. I know one F1 diehard, he's been to, in the last 3 years, Montreal, Singapore and Spa.

Jealous? yes I am

When you see the state his finances are in you may not be so jealous

Well he does ride a scooter during summer. I have tried, time and again, to get him to put Ferrari logos on it, it's Ferrari red.

fondmetal-fond · Post by **fondmetal-fond** » 30 Oct 2009, 21:31

shinji wrote:Who actually likes this sport? Out of 200 well off 15 year olds in my year there are two (yes, two) F1 fans. And by fans, I mean they know who Adrian Sutil is. They are me, and one other who watches races but can't really hold a conversation on the sport. So that's 1 fan in a 100 in a group of people made up of the people who F1 is aimed at.

Then there's the two biggest world population centres, India and China, both of which are not exactly hotbeds of Formula One fandom. Neither is the US.

So F1, which has some of the biggest financial involvement in sport, has practically no fans. Strange.

I gave an interesting argument to my co-workers:
Why should we watch F1 anyway? Every racecar built after 1973 is a downgraded version of the Porsche 917/30.
Almost got eviscerated that day. Ironically, they were all Porsche fans

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 31 Oct 2009, 19:30

Grosjean is The Next Big Thing. Next Big Thing to Hit Sport-Prototypes, that is.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 31 Oct 2009, 22:26

CarlosFerreira wrote:Grosjean is The Next Big Thing. Next Big Thing to Hit Sport-Prototypes, that is.

Literally hit them, I'm assuming.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 31 Oct 2009, 22:28

shinji wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:Grosjean is The Next Big Thing. Next Big Thing to Hit Sport-Prototypes, that is.

Literally hit them, I'm assuming.

He's not as big as his last name would have you assume.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 01 Nov 2009, 18:05

Will somebody please shoot Renault in the head and put them out of their misery?

Ross Prawn · Post by **Ross Prawn** » 01 Nov 2009, 19:37

I think they built the hotel at Yas Marina so there would be somewhere comfortable to sleep through the race.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 01 Nov 2009, 21:46

Hey Jarno, your cab has arrived! Fisico is riding shotgun with you...

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 01 Nov 2009, 21:52

Every time I saw the YAS Hotel, I felt I wanted to shave.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 03 Nov 2009, 19:39

Spaced is amazing.

In this quote, Tim was actually talking about Star Wars - The Phantom Menace, but it seems apt for this thread.

Tim: You are so blind! You so do not understand! You weren't there at the beginning. You don't know how good it was! How important! This is it for you! This jumped-up firework display of a toy advert! People like you make me sick! What's wrong with you?! Now, I don't care if you've saved up all your fifty 'p's, take your pocket money and get out!
[The little boy runs off, crying]
Tim: What a prick.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 04 Nov 2009, 05:53

No Toyota! Don't do it! We need a seat for Cowboy-ashi!

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 04 Nov 2009, 05:57

I don't understand the love for Kobayashi.

Lewis Hamilton placed third on his debut and passed the reining World Champion on the first lap of the race.

Kamui Kobayashi placed sixth in his second race and only got past Button because Button was much, much heavier.

Yet it's Koayashi who gets the hero's welcome ...

Winterspring · Post by **Winterspring** » 04 Nov 2009, 06:00

Because he reminds everyone of Taku. I feel indifferent towards him
Like Jamie better.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 04 Nov 2009, 08:39

The queue of people bothered with Toyota's decision goes around the block.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 04 Nov 2009, 08:53

EDIT: stupid laggy internet, posted an unfinished post