1979 rFactor F1 - Please go to 1980 thread

[Salamander]

1) I'm ok with the amount of DNQs right now.
2) Within reason - it'd be fairly ridiculous if, like Ferrari were using a McLaren chassis or something.
3) How about creating the Luxembourg GP early and holding a race at the Nurburgring GP circuit?
4) No no no.

[TomWazzleshaw]

Ferrarist, you wanna sign Rosberg for AGS since he became available?

[AdrianSutil]

Ferrarist, you wanna sign Rosberg for AGS since he became available?

Rosberg still with Shadow.
The Shadow team have reacted angrily to reports Keke Rosberg may be on his way out of the team following his seat being taken by German youngster Stefan Bellof. "This is only a trail period for Stefan", claimed a team spokesperson. "Keke is still contracted to Shadow Cosworth Racing and we have no plans to let him go."

1. 36 (38?) cars do qualifying of which 30 start. That's fine. Remember in about 10 years time you'll have up to 40 fighting over 26!
2. Would be interesting but with limitations. As mentioned above, certain teams should not be allowed certain chassis/engine combo's
3. Do we have a Nordschliefe round? We need that.
4. Good god no!

[Klon]

Can we have the United States Grand Prix at a more interesting track? Maybe Detroit or even better the Burke Lakefront Airport track. To be honest, I fail to see why people mind the three-car team idea. Maybe we could have each team allowed to use a third driver at one or two races.

[Aerospeed]

A few things about 1980:

1)Is everybody ahppy with the grid sizes and the amount of DNQ's? I know this is a major problem in the F1RWRS.
2)I was thinking of letting team owners choose from any chassis in the 1983/1984 mod, couple with an engine of their choosing. (The teams would pick according to 79 championship position). The mod includes all chassis used in both seasons, including variations. Does this sound okay to you?
3) A definate addition to the calendar will be Ireland, but is there any other circuit you'd liek? I wouldn't like to expand the calendar anymore though.
4)Should 3 car teams be allowed?

1) Sure. Although I don't have to worry one bit
2) Can you do that for 1980? I'm quite worried Ferrari will fall off quite a bit next season
3) Any track is fine, I have no complaints about the calendar.
4) Yes yes yes and yes!

[AndreaModa]

A few things about 1980:

1)Is everybody ahppy with the grid sizes and the amount of DNQ's? I know this is a major problem in the F1RWRS.
2)I was thinking of letting team owners choose from any chassis in the 1983/1984 mod, couple with an engine of their choosing. (The teams would pick according to 79 championship position). The mod includes all chassis used in both seasons, including variations. Does this sound okay to you?
3) A definate addition to the calendar will be Ireland, but is there any other circuit you'd liek? I wouldn't like to expand the calendar anymore though.
4)Should 3 car teams be allowed?

1) Yep, no problem with grid sizes. In fact I wouldn't mind them going down to 26 again if you so wished.
2) Not too keen on this, BlindCaveSalamander pointed it out - it makes no sense to have the Ferrari team using a McLaren/Williams/Lotus chassis or whatever. I firmly believe that whilst this is an alternate series, we need to maintain a bit of continuity with history otherwise it might as well be a completely fictional series. I think that original teams should be limited to using the chassis they used in the real F1 season of that specific year, with new customer teams limited to whichever chassis were sold to customers in the real F1 season. If none were sold, they'd have to build their own.
3) Not too bothered about this.
4) Absolutely not. Then we'd start having problems with DNQing smaller teams because the grid will be filled out with the better cars.

[pasta_maldonado]

Thanks for your responses! Looks like for next year we'll jump to the 1982 mod (no 1980/1981 mod exists for rFactor). Grid sizes will remain the same as currently all of the small teams have qualified more than once. But first, let's get the second half of 1979 out of the way!

[FMecha]

Thanks for your responses! Looks like for next year we'll jump to the 1982 mod (no 1980/1981 mod exists for rFactor). Grid sizes will remain the same as currently all of the small teams have qualified more than once. But first, let's get the second half of 1979 out of the way!

Use a skin pack, that would be a faster solution given that 1980-81 cars look quite similar to those in 1979...

[pasta_maldonado]

Thanks for your responses! Looks like for next year we'll jump to the 1982 mod (no 1980/1981 mod exists for rFactor). Grid sizes will remain the same as currently all of the small teams have qualified more than once. But first, let's get the second half of 1979 out of the way!

Use a skin pack, that would be a faster solution given that 1980-81 cars look quite similar to those in 1979...

No skin pack exists unfortunately. 1980/81 is a bit of a dark spot in rFactor. 1982 isn't even finished yet! (Currently missing the smaller teams)

[FMecha]

Thanks for your responses! Looks like for next year we'll jump to the 1982 mod (no 1980/1981 mod exists for rFactor). Grid sizes will remain the same as currently all of the small teams have qualified more than once. But first, let's get the second half of 1979 out of the way!

Use a skin pack, that would be a faster solution given that 1980-81 cars look quite similar to those in 1979...

No skin pack exists unfortunately. 1980/81 is a bit of a dark spot in rFactor. 1982 isn't even finished yet! (Currently missing the smaller teams)

Then you can always do it yourself, given that you have the skills (see your liveries thread).

[pasta_maldonado]

Then you can always do it yourself, given that you have the skills (see your liveries thread).

Yeah I could always try that! Anyway, is Lees back in the car for France, or will Nurmester continue?

[FMecha]

Then you can always do it yourself, given that you have the skills (see your liveries thread).

Yeah I could always try that! Anyway, is Lees back in the car for France, or will Nurmester continue?

Lees' just released from hospital now, so OK.

[pasta_maldonado]

ESSEX TOBACCO SPONSORSHIP FOR LOTUS?
After JPS left the sport at the start of the year, Lotus have had Martini sponsorship. But, it appears negotiations are being held with Essex tobbaco about a possible sponsorship deal, and decals could even be on the car as early as France. Essex Tobbaco or Lotus were unavailable to comment.

eurobrun: I'm sick of looking at the ghastly Martini and green Lotus livery, so would you like the 1980 livery on the cars ASAP?

This livery:

[Nessafox]

i think customer teams should only be allowed cars from the year before or cars from the worst constructors (we might see whole lot of Osella's or something like that)

[RonDenisDeletraz]

ESSEX TOBACCO SPONSORSHIP FOR LOTUS?
After JPS left the sport at the start of the year, Lotus have had Martini sponsorship. But, it appears negotiations are being held with Essex tobbaco about a possible sponsorship deal, and decals could even be on the car as early as France. Essex Tobbaco or Lotus were unavailable to comment.

eurobrun: I'm sick of looking at the ghastly Martini and green Lotus livery, so would you like the 1980 livery on the cars ASAP?

This livery:

OK, I don't have any problem with you doing this.

[AndreaModa]

i think customer teams should only be allowed cars from the year before or cars from the worst constructors (we might see whole lot of Osella's or something like that)

But that wouldn't be realistic in the sense that a crap constructor wouldn't have the capacity to churn out loads of chassis for other teams as well as themselves. Historically during this period the only chassis that were really sold to customers were Williams and Lotus ones, and even then it was only one team using a Lotus chassis in '79, and two using Williams chassis in '80. I really think customer cars really should be kept to the absolute limit, if not banned outright, because otherwise it's just going to start getting silly.

[pasta_maldonado]

i think customer teams should only be allowed cars from the year before or cars from the worst constructors (we might see whole lot of Osella's or something like that)

But that wouldn't be realistic in the sense that a crap constructor wouldn't have the capacity to churn out loads of chassis for other teams as well as themselves. Historically during this period the only chassis that were really sold to customers were Williams and Lotus ones, and even then it was only one team using a Lotus chassis in '79, and two using Williams chassis in '80. I really think customer cars really should be kept to the absolute limit, if not banned outright, because otherwise it's just going to start getting silly.

Next year then, Jenkins can continue with the FW06 (which was used anyway by some teams) and RAM can upgrade to the Lotus 79.

[Nessafox]

I think you should give people customer chassis, and re-name it, but of course only after a constructor that was active a few years before or after the season. But for the sake of keeping it realistic, only use the worst chassis to re-name. It would be weird if Merzario would dominate 1980, but you can give them a shadow-car and rename it Merzario, for example.
The mid eigthies didn't have a lot of constructors, so those who have a team that continues for long (i'm good for a while with RAM, as it turns into March, back into RAM, back into March, into Leyton House and back into March again)don't have any problems, but those that chose poorly (like Rebaque for instance), will have to be given other options, if not enough new teams are available.

[RonDenisDeletraz]

If this gets to 1993 then can I please have Sauber.

[AdrianSutil]

If this gets to 1993 then can I please have Sauber.

You'll probably be married and have kids by that time. A season on here takes longer than you think.

[pasta_maldonado]

Just watched the 1979 French Grand Prix. I'm not giving too much away yet (qualifying and race reports, standings, and pictures to come tomorrow), but there was 8 different lap leaders, and the gap between the top 10 never went below 20 seconds for all 80 laps. Possibly the best race of all time

[Phoenix]

Just watched the 1979 French Grand Prix. I'm not giving too much away yet (qualifying and race reports, standings, and pictures to come tomorrow), but there was 8 different lap leaders, and the gap between the top 10 never went below 20 seconds for all 80 laps. Possibly the best race of all time

Did Villeneuve and Arnoux bang wheels at the last lap?

[pasta_maldonado]

Just watched the 1979 French Grand Prix. I'm not giving too much away yet (qualifying and race reports, standings, and pictures to come tomorrow), but there was 8 different lap leaders, and the gap between the top 10 never went below 20 seconds for all 80 laps. Possibly the best race of all time

Did Villeneuve and Arnoux bang wheels at the last lap?

Villeneuve had retired by then

[Aerospeed]

Just watched the 1979 French Grand Prix. I'm not giving too much away yet (qualifying and race reports, standings, and pictures to come tomorrow), but there was 8 different lap leaders, and the gap between the top 10 never went below 20 seconds for all 80 laps. Possibly the best race of all time

Did Villeneuve and Arnoux bang wheels at the last lap?

Villeneuve had retired by then

If Team Merzario is involved I immediately call legal threats of sabotage and I also propose a more strict "blue-flag" rule!

[Salamander]

Just watched the 1979 French Grand Prix. I'm not giving too much away yet (qualifying and race reports, standings, and pictures to come tomorrow), but there was 8 different lap leaders, and the gap between the top 10 never went below 20 seconds for all 80 laps. Possibly the best race of all time

Did Villeneuve and Arnoux bang wheels at the last lap?

Villeneuve had retired by then

More importantly, did Jean-Pierre Jabouille win? Yes, I realise that I'll have to wait until after the results are posted for the answer to that.

[TomWazzleshaw]

Just watched the 1979 French Grand Prix. I'm not giving too much away yet (qualifying and race reports, standings, and pictures to come tomorrow), but there was 8 different lap leaders, and the gap between the top 10 never went below 20 seconds for all 80 laps. Possibly the best race of all time

Nah. The 2014 F2RWRS British Grand Prix was better as with 8 laps to go, you had half the grid which had the pace, track position or strategy to win the race

[tommykl]

Just watched the 1979 French Grand Prix. I'm not giving too much away yet (qualifying and race reports, standings, and pictures to come tomorrow), but there was 8 different lap leaders, and the gap between the top 10 never went below 20 seconds for all 80 laps. Possibly the best race of all time

Nah. The 2014 F2RWRS British Grand Prix was better as with 8 laps to go, you had half the grid which had the pace, track position or strategy to win the race

And a Gillet actually with a shot of winning the whole thing before experiencing an earth-shattering kaboom

[pasta_maldonado]

1979 French Grand Prix

Newsflash

Stefan Bellof replaces Keke Rosberg for this round at Shadow, and at McLaren, Mario Andretti has been given a rest while Derek Daly fills in for him driving the #0. The word is that he's become disillusioned with F1, and yearns to be racing stateside.

Paul Ricard may feature on the calendar next year. The FIA have concerns about the length of the Dijon circuit, but those cpuld be dismissed by great racing. "We are slightly concerned about the length of the track, but, if the racing is thrilling, I'm sure we could accomodate it." Reims is also an outsider to host the Grand Prix.

The European Grand Prix will take place at the Imola circuit in Italy for next year, the FIA have announced. The Italian circuit will host the second running of the event, after Brands Hatch debuts this year.

Riccardo Patrese returns from injury in the Brazilian Grand Prix and James Hunt is back in the Wolf after a 3 race ban.

Qualifying



Fun Fact: Only two other teams have been on pole aside from Williams. Jody Scheckter took his first of the year around Dijon, a tenth of a second ahead of Rene Arnoux, and Ed Kevin continued his good rookie form with 3rd on the grid. McAllister and Villeneuve lined up 4th and 5th, while a strong performance from Alan Jones saw the Lotus line up 6th, ahead of Jean-Pierre Jabouille and the equally-strong Piquet in the under-performing Brabham. The RAMS lined up 12th and 13th, Jan Lammers getting the edge over his team mate, hoping to make a championship charge materialise. Derek Daly took 15th on his debut, with team mate Gauthier in 17th, ahead of Bellof. Niki Lauda didn't look happy in the second Brabham, only managing 20th position. Wolf and Alfa Romeo continue to be in no-mans land between the midfield and the backmarkers, while Team Maerzario appear to breaking away from the rest of the backmarkers, with both cars qualifying. Guidetti lines up 27th with Brambilla 28th. Danny Ongais qualifies for the first time after 3 straight DNQ's, and Marc Surer qualified for an unbeleivable 3rd time in a row, while team mate Rebaque can hardly go faster than last. Pierre Depault was a cruel 5 hundredths shy of qualifying again, and Rossler, Sedlak, Gabbiani, Jenkins, Stuck, Rebaque, and Fittipaldi joining him on the sidelines for the race. Jenkins will be dissapointed to record their second double DNQ of the year after a strong showing at Monaco, while Hector Rebaque and Emerson Fittipaldi have only made the grid once and twice, respectively. Marc Surer has shown that the Rebaque is easily capable of qualifying, maybe Rebaque will be shown the door?

Race - 80 Laps

The grid lined up, with Scheckter on pole. The lights went out, and the turbo Ferraris made excellent starts to lead into the first corner, Arnoux ahead of Villeneuve. THe rest of the field made it through in one piece, but continued to jostle over positions, which would be a trademark of the race. At the end of lap 1, the top 3 remained the same, with Kevin in 4th and McAllister in 5th. However, Alan Jones in 6th passed McAllister in turn one, and the following lap passed Kevin for 4th. Villeneuve had the advantage of the slipstream behind Arnoux, and on lap 4, dived down the inside at turn one, however Arnoux was back in the lead again on lap 5. Jean-Pierre Jabouille had worked his way up to 5th, while McAllister found himself in 7th, with a determined Reutemann glued to his gearbox. A lap later, McAllister was too slow through 1, and was swamped on through 2; Reutemann, Piquet and Laffite Jones all went though before 4, leaving McAllsiter down in 11th place.

Scheckter had not given up and was still right with the Ferraris in 3rd, slipstreaming Villeneuve for 2nd on lap 6, and taking Arnoux for the lead a lap later. Alan Jones was no right behind in 4th, and Jabouille was only a second back in 5th.

Lap 9; and Scheckter's engine began to smoke. He continued despite it, but the engine let go on lap 10, ending his day early from 3rd. On lap 11, Arnoux lead from Villeneuve, ahead of Kevin, Reutemann, Jones, and Jabouille, with McAllister in 9th. Two laps later and Villeneuve lead again from Arnoux and Reutemann, who took second place on lap 16, slipstreaming Villeneuve for 2nd. At this point, the top 5; Arnoux, Reutemann, Villeneuve, A Jones and Jabouille were covered by 6 tenths of a second! Carlos Reutemann lined up Arnoux for the lead on lap 17, and took the position, the French crowd roaring as the French car lead ahead of Arnoux and Villeneuve with Jabouille and Jones going through 1 and 2 side by side!

This was not for long, as a lap later Villeneuve slipstreamed Arnoux and Reutemann, sailing past the both of them down the pit straight to ake the lead again, with jabouille in 4th ahead of Jones. Reutemann wasn't safe for long either, as on lap 20 Jabouille, and a lap later Jones, passed him into turn 1. Also on lap 21, Jabouille took the lead from Arnoux. Jabouille defended hard against the Ferrari, but a lap later, on lap 22, Arnoux slipstreamed alongside the Argentine along the pit straight, taking the lead into turn one. Reutemann left the door open, and Alan Jones followed Arnoux through! Reutemann was swamped through 2 and into 3, and Jabouille, Villeneuve and the yoyo-esque McAllister went through.

Almost un noticed, Stefan Bellof retired on lap 19 with engine failure, having run as high as 11th.

Jones was on a charge, and took the lead in the usual place on lap 23! Colin Chapman's cap almost flew into the air of it's own accord! Arnoux remained glued to his gearbox however, and while Jones was able to keep himbehind for two laps, the turbo Ferrari was too much for the Lotus on the pit straight on lap 25, Arnoux slipstreaming past the Aussie. McAllister followed him through, at the height of a sterling recovery drive.

Two laps later on lap 27, Guilliame Gauthier retired his McLaren from 17th, while Daly run 13th. McAllister was down in 7th again. Jabouille was in the lead having slipstreamed Jones by the end of the straight, and passing both McAllister and Arnoux into turn 1. Lap 30, and Arnoux was back in the lead, ahead of Jabouille, Villeneuve and Kevin. Villeneuve began to slow exiting turn 1 on lap 31; he was stuck in 4th gear! Piquet, Lammers, McAllister, and Laffite were stuck behind the crawling Villeneuve, with first Lammers and then Laffite forced to the grrass by an erratic Piquet! Villeneuve pulled into the pits to retire at the end of the lap, Luca di Montezemelo making frustrated hand movements from the pit wall.

Reutemann also retired with engine problems on lap 29.

With Reutemann and Villeneuve out of the race, at the start of lap 32 Arnoux was still leading, from Alan Jones, Jabouille, Kevin, Piquet and Lammers. Jones was still determined however, and a poor exit from turn 8 by Arnoux at the end of the lap allowed Jones to outrun the turbo and go through to lead again! Arnoux's and Jabouille's turbos caught up with him a lap later though, both cars slipstreaming past into turn one. Jones was undettered, and on lap 34, managed to remain in the slipstream along the main straight, dived down the inside of Jabouille, then went around the OUTSIDE of Arnoux! What a move! THe Lotus pits was ecstatic!

Jones, Arnoux, and Jabouille swapped places until lap 50, when Arnoux went through into the lead, and a lap later Jabouille went past Jones for 2nd, and Laffite went throught into 3 to take 3rd. On lap 52, Danny Ongais began to hold Jbaouille and Arnoux up, with Jabouille not being able to find a way through untill lap 54. This allowed the top 8 to close to within 1 second of Jabouille. By the start of lap 56, Danny Ongais had bveen succesfully lapped, and Jabouille lead from Arnoux, Laffite, Piquet and McAllister. Arnoux passed Jabouille into turn 1, and Laffite followed him through, and a lap later, slipstreamed Arnoux to take the lead! Arnoux ran wide, and which allowed Jabouille and McAllister through. On lap 58, Niki Lauda's Brabham exploded, leaving the dissapointed and disillusioned Austrian on the sidelines. Callum McAllister also passed Jabouille at the start of lap 59 to take second place, with Laffite still leading.

Heartbreak for Renault as Jabouille's car exploded in flames along the pit straight, with the Frenchman pulling up opposite the Renault pit wall, before climbing out and kicking the car in frustration. Renault recorded their 4th double retirement, with Jabouille failing to make the finish for 6 races now. The Williams yo-yo that was McAllsiter was starting to go back down again, with Arnoux going through on lap 62, and Piquet following suit on lap 65. A lap later, Arnoux was in the lead, and on lap 68 Piquet slipstreamed and passed Laffite for 2nd, before passing Arnoux for the lead! Brabham hadn't shown this kind pf pace since the season opener in Brazil, and Piquet looked to be on fine form. However, he only lead until lap 73, when Arnoux and Laffite slipstreamed past into turn 1. McAllister and Kevin had closed right up to the leading 3, with McAllister passing Piquet for 3rd on lap 74.

The battle of France commenced: Laffite and Arnoux swapped positions for the remaining laps. The French crowd cheered whoever was in the leaad. Laffite led lap 76, Arnoux led 77, and Laffite lead 78. Piquet had become helpless, and was now in 6th, ahead of Alan Jones. Ed Kevin was in 4th and Derek Daly continued to impress on his debut in 5th. Arnoux was in the lead for lap 79; the Ferrari team waited with baited breath - Laffite was still glued to his gearbox. Laffite dived down the inside into turn 1 on the last lap, sending the French crowd into delirium. Now it was Ligier's turn to hold their breath, Arnoux was all over the back of the Ligier! Jacques Laffite managed to hold on to win, just a tenth of a second ahead of Arnoux, and 2 tenths ahead of McAllister! Jacques Laffite sealed an emotional victory and the crowd went mad; a French driver won the French Grand Prix in a French car!* It was all too much for Laffite as he broke down on the pdium, draped in a French flag.

Ed Kevin finished 4th, ahead of Daly in 5th, while Jones put in a stunning comeback drive from 12th to finish 7th. Lammers just sneaked into the points in 8th. Patrese finished 10th after retuirning from injury, while Harvey Jones will be dissapointed with 11th. Th Alfa Romeos were in no man's land again, 10 seconds behind James Hunt's wolf in 12th and half a minute ahead of Guidetti's Merzario in 14th, while Ongais made it to the flag a lap down. Fun Fact: Derek Daly has amassed the same amount of points (4) in one race than Gauthier has in 8.



*Not as good as real life, where a French driver won in a French car with a French engine and French tyres, but still.

Pictures


The start


Into turn 1


Villeneuve passes Arnoux for the lead


McAllister gets swamped


Scheckter goes into the lead


Jody's engine starts smoking while in 3rd


Arnoux leads Reutemann and Villeneuve


Jones leads


Lammers is pushed to the grass by Piquet behind a damaged Villeneuve...


Then Laffite!


Jones takes Arnoux on the inside...


Then Jabouille on the outside to lead!


Held up by Ongais


Laffite leads


Lauda retires


Jabouille retires


Laffite and Arnoux fight for the lead in the closing laps


Laffite holds on to win the French Grand Prix

Championship standings

Driver's Championship-After 8 rounds

1: Rene Arnoux - 33
2: Jacques Laffite - 31
3: Callum McAllister - 28
4: Ed Kevin - 26
5: Jody Scheckter - 26
6: Gilles Villeneuve - 21
= Jan Lammers - 21
8: Carlos Reutemann - 18
9: Nelson Piquet - 14
= Harvey Jones - 14
11: Gianfranco Brancatelli - 9
12: Alan Jones - 10
13: Hiroshi Takagi - 9
14: Mario Andretti - 8
15: James Hunt - 6
= Alain Prost - 6
17: Jean-Pierre Jabouille - 5
18: Andrea de Cesaris - 4
= Geoff Lees - 4
= Guilliame Gauthier - 4
= Derek Daly - 4
22: Niki Lauda - 3
= John Watson - 3
24: Roberto Horford - 2
25: Kieran Sutherland - 1
= Thomas Nurmester - 1

Constructor's Championship-After 7 rounds

1: Ligier-Ford - 57
2: Williams-Ford - 54
= Ferrari - 54
4: Ram-Ferrari -25
5: Lotus-Ford - 24
6: Renault - 23
7: McLaren-Ford - 17
8: Brabham-Ford - 16
9: Tyrrell-Ford - 14
10: Alfa Romeo - 8
11: Wolf-Ford - 6
12: RAM-Ford -5
= Arrows-Ford - 5
14: Shadow-Ford - 3

[AndreaModa]

Bit of a rubbish race for me, the car just wasn't feeling quite right all weekend. Alan had a brilliant race though, I'm gutted he couldn't get a better result in the end, but it's showing the car's potential. The team really need to pull their finger out because today was the kind of race where we could have really capitalised, but we didn't.

F***ing piece of sh*t of a car! Not qualifying is bloody terrible, the sponsors aren't happy, I'm not happy, nobody's happy. We need a big effort from here on in else I'll be in bloody hospital with an aneurysm at this rate.

[WaffleCat]

Holy bathplug.That must have been one of the best races I have ever seen.And my team somehow finished 5th!With a debutant behind the wheel.Andretti will definitely be in the car for the next race,but I might make up my mind with Derek Daly.What a drive,lad,what a drive.

[DemocalypseNow]

It's difficult coming up with three distinct personalities when all my drivers are from the same country...

Auto merda...so slow in quali...want new one...Parmalat lire vanish if they no make better auto...I faster than team-mate, still too slow for race...its a joke...pezzo di merda squadra...

OK, another finish, it's good, and another good qualifying pace, we hope now to work on the speed. For sure it's not easy with a small budget, but we try hard at least. It's all the team can do. I will support them 100%.

I try to develop car using my experience, maybe in qualifying there was a difference, but here, none, it was still same slow speed. I can only do so much, Merzario team must step up and push the...I don't know the word...evoluzione...of the car, or we will go back to missing the races again. Now, where was thost stronzi who try to steal my cigarettes, I beat them up.

[Aerospeed]

Not bad.

It's difficult coming up with something else to say since both drivers were not known for complaining very much! (At least, for Arnoux, not yet)

[Phoenix]

That's another engine failure for us, and with Jody in a very competitive position! I wish those turbocharged Hondas were ready already...

[Aerospeed]

Not bad.

It's difficult coming up with something else to say since both drivers were not known for complaining very much! (At least, for Arnoux, not yet)

Excellent. We are now in the lead for both championships.

[RonDenisDeletraz]

Both drivers have done a good job so far but the car pace is dissapointing. We are planning for a mid season upgrade package which should hope bring the team closer to the front.

[AdrianSutil]

Shadow press release:
After seeing both Stefan and John qualify well, expectations were high, especially as the new turbo could push us up the order along the main straight. Sadly, the engine is still not reliable enough and two early retirements again are not what we need. Ford are looking into these problems and we hope for better reliability soon.

[pasta_maldonado]

Thanks again to Wizzie for updating the wiki page - top notch effort mate Can you unlock the page now please as well?

Also amended some small errors in the championship table - Daly has 4 points instead of 5, and Ligier lead the constructor's with 57 points.

[The Lukas]

Ensign Team press release:
Well, too bad that our driver for the race, the Grand Prix are preparing the next version of the B car.

[pasta_maldonado]

So for Silverstone:
Jenkins: Gabbiani OUT - Keegan IN

AdrianSutil, will Bellof continue at Shadow, or will Rosberg be back in the car?

Any other changes for Britain?

[AdrianSutil]

Bellof again for Britain please