F1RWRS -- 2015 Season - ROTY voting!!!

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 20 Aug 2012, 16:55

Welcome to the 2015 F1RWRS thread!

Seeing as we´re going to need one thread per season F1RWRS discussion moves here.

I don´t think F1RWRS needs much presentation anymore, but there we go with a couple of useful links for users and newbies alike:

Wiki main page: http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Main_Page
Rules: http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/F ... ries_Rules
2015 season overview page: http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/2 ... ies_season
2015 chassis and engine list: http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/2 ... ngine_List

Remember that the 2015 market period will open on Wednesday 22nd August at 11PM Spanish Time. No Market operations will be valid until then. Market will be first come, first serve basis, as usual.

Here are links to past threads of F1RWRS:

2014: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4549
2010-2013: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3654

OFFICIAL WAITING LIST -- Updated as 19th January 2013

1. Pasta_Maldonado (Plus One)
2. Nuppiz
3. WaffleCat
4. Ataxia
5. pi314159
6. roblomas52
7. pycku
8. Ben Purse
9. darkapprentice77
10. Takagi_for_the_win
11. Matt121

Upgrading Update; From now on, team owners will be able to Spend quantities of 1Credit as for;

1 Credit -- 10 Reliability Points
1 Credit -- 2 Points of Qualifying or Race Grip for Drivers

Instead of a minimum of:

5 Credits -- 50 Reliability Points
10 Credits -- 20 Points of Qualifying or Race Grip for Drivers

Engine upgrading stay the same: 10 Credits - 1BHP

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 20 Aug 2012, 16:59

Aerond, is it allowed to send emails making offers to sell old chassis to other users right now?

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 20 Aug 2012, 17:04

JeremyMcClean wrote:Aerond, is it allowed to send emails making offers to sell old chassis to other users right now?

Yes, but no deal may be announced or official until the market starts. In said deal you must announce here which team sells chassis/engine to which other team and the ammount of credits involved. No other thing appart from credits may be part of said deal.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 20 Aug 2012, 17:42

Aerond, I have a doubt regarding your mail.

When you say "Max Power: <some value> (Pendant engine choice)" are you saying that engine might change this value? I thought that it was regardless the engine and no possible updates could be done to this parameter...

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 20 Aug 2012, 17:49

DanielPT wrote:Aerond, I have a doubt regarding your mail.

When you say "Max Power: <some value> (Pendant engine choice)" are you saying that engine might change this value? I thought that it was regardless the engine and no possible updates could be done to this parameter...

As your team is without an engine right now, it will depend the Max Power of that engine your maximum power. If the engine´s Max Power is lower than the chassis Max Power then the engine Max Power will mark the top, if not it will be the chassis.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 21 Aug 2012, 01:34

Any chance of a link to explain what the Speed and Drivability on Chassis mean?

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 21 Aug 2012, 01:59

SuperAguri wrote:Any chance of a link to explain what the Speed and Drivability on Chassis mean?

Speed - self explanatory

Driveability - Affects the random grip formula that Aerond explained earlier

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 21 Aug 2012, 03:12

JeremyMcClean wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:Any chance of a link to explain what the Speed and Drivability on Chassis mean?

Speed - self explanatory

Driveability - Affects the random grip formula that Aerond explained earlier

But is speed so explanatory? Mainly due to the max BHP ratings of the chassis. The Lola T97 has a speed rating of 1 but you can shove 750BHP into it where as the Leyton House CG911 has a speed rating of 8 but you are limited to a mere 720BHP.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Aug 2012, 03:25

All chassis/engine deals are done on a first come, first served basis, right?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Aug 2012, 05:57

SuperAguri wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:Any chance of a link to explain what the Speed and Drivability on Chassis mean?

Speed - self explanatory

Driveability - Affects the random grip formula that Aerond explained earlier

But is speed so explanatory? Mainly due to the max BHP ratings of the chassis. The Lola T97 has a speed rating of 1 but you can shove 750BHP into it where as the Leyton House CG911 has a speed rating of 8 but you are limited to a mere 720BHP.

Speed used to affect how much the power of the engine was affected but now it affects driver performance. A better title for the column would probably be 'grip' or something like that

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Aug 2012, 06:17

NOTICE TO ALL TEAM MANAGERS

Because it turns out I am dyslexic with numbers, two errors within the 2015 engine and chassis list have been found and rectified before the market opens on Wednesday night. The first concerns the Rial ARC-02 chassis. On the list, the chassis was initially listed as having 7000 reliability points. After reviewing the spreadsheet against the list, it turns out the chassis has, in fact, 2000 reliability points. The second concerns the Peugeot A7 engines. Again, it was listed as having 4000 reliability points but upon review, this was corrected to 6000 reliability points. I apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause and I wish you all the best of luck in 2015.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 21 Aug 2012, 06:23

Wizzie wrote:NOTICE TO ALL TEAM MANAGERS

Because it turns out I am dyslexic with numbers, two errors within the 2015 engine and chassis list have been found and rectified before the market opens on Wednesday night. The first concerns the Rial ARC-02 chassis. On the list, the chassis was initially listed as having 7000 reliability points. After reviewing the spreadsheet against the list, it turns out the chassis has, in fact, 2000 reliability points. The second concerns the Peugeot A7 engines. Again, it was listed as having 4000 reliability points but upon review, this was corrected to 6000 reliability points. I apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause and I wish you all the best of luck in 2015.

OK, this is good that it has been corrected.

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 21 Aug 2012, 17:20

I have a question for Aerond - will you post to declare the market open or will it open on the dot of 11pm CET without any announcement?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 21 Aug 2012, 17:21

Wait, wasn't it 10PM CET?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Aug 2012, 21:03

Shizuka wrote:Wait, wasn't it 10PM CET?

Correct. The opening is 11pm CEST, therefore it is 10pm CET/BST and 9pm GMT.

I have a question. How does the market actually work?? Do we email Aerond our chassis choice, do we have to form a queue like at the cheese counter and post on the 2015 thread when it's our turn, or something else entirely?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Aug 2012, 21:14

kostas22 wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Wait, wasn't it 10PM CET?

Correct. The opening is 11pm CEST, therefore it is 10pm CET/BST and 9pm GMT.

I have a question. How does the market actually work?? Do we email Aerond our chassis choice, do we have to form a queue like at the cheese counter and post on the 2015 thread when it's our turn, or something else entirely?

If it's anything like last year, we just post in the thread after the market opens on a first come, first serve basis.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Aug 2012, 21:15

Wizzie wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Wait, wasn't it 10PM CET?

Correct. The opening is 11pm CEST, therefore it is 10pm CET/BST and 9pm GMT.

I have a question. How does the market actually work?? Do we email Aerond our chassis choice, do we have to form a queue like at the cheese counter and post on the 2015 thread when it's our turn, or something else entirely?

If it's anything like last year, we just post in the thread after the market opens on a first come, first serve basis.

Oh man, this is going to be one hell of a clusterf***....

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 21 Aug 2012, 21:55

kostas22 wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Wait, wasn't it 10PM CET?

Correct. The opening is 11pm CEST, therefore it is 10pm CET/BST and 9pm GMT.

I have a question. How does the market actually work?? Do we email Aerond our chassis choice, do we have to form a queue like at the cheese counter and post on the 2015 thread when it's our turn, or something else entirely?

I meant CEST, terminology fail. My question still stands.

The market is a mad scramble, and whoever's Internet is on form at the right time will get the best deal. In part that's the reason for my question.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 21 Aug 2012, 22:20

Warren Hughes wrote:I have a question for Aerond - will you post to declare the market open or will it open on the dot of 11pm CET without any announcement?

I will post to declare the market open

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Aug 2012, 22:22

I am considering doing something absolutely batshite insane here...hmm...

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 22 Aug 2012, 06:18

I'm probably screwed. Hell yeah!

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Aug 2012, 17:06

Only 4 hours until this thread explodes with new and old teams fighting over their chassis and engine choices! Should be pretty intense :lol:

By the way, do the performance and reliability upgrades remain the same from 2014?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 22 Aug 2012, 17:20

AdrianSutil wrote:Only 4 hours until this thread explodes with new and old teams fighting over their chassis and engine choices! Should be pretty intense

Well, there are some teams that will stay out of it (Castrol Jones, for example), and then there are teams that only seek for a chassis (my team, for example).
At least in my case, I could buy a better "hand-me-down" chassis and that would still be an improvement! Hopefully I can be here in ... wait, I forgot, actually I can't be here, 23:00 is too late and I usually sleep by then. Well, fingers crossed.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 22 Aug 2012, 17:26

AdrianSutil wrote:Only 4 hours until this thread explodes with new and old teams fighting over their chassis and engine choices! Should be pretty intense

I can't wait, and I'm not in the F1RWRS yet.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 22 Aug 2012, 18:02

AdrianSutil wrote:Only 4 hours until this thread explodes with new and old teams fighting over their chassis and engine choices! Should be pretty intense

By the way, do the performance and reliability upgrades remain the same from 2014?

Performance upgrades remain if you keep the same engine and reliability upgrades remain if you keep the same chassis

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 22 Aug 2012, 18:04

Shizuka wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Only 4 hours until this thread explodes with new and old teams fighting over their chassis and engine choices! Should be pretty intense

Well, there are some teams that will stay out of it (Castrol Jones, for example), and then there are teams that only seek for a chassis (my team, for example).
At least in my case, I could buy a better "hand-me-down" chassis and that would still be an improvement! Hopefully I can be here in ... wait, I forgot, actually I can't be here, 23:00 is too late and I usually sleep by then. Well, fingers crossed.

Stop moaning, if your team sucked last season was because you blew your credits in a big reliability upgrade before making sure the car had enough speed before, and nothing else.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Aug 2012, 18:05

Shizuka wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Only 4 hours until this thread explodes with new and old teams fighting over their chassis and engine choices! Should be pretty intense

Well, there are some teams that will stay out of it (Castrol Jones, for example), and then there are teams that only seek for a chassis (my team, for example).
At least in my case, I could buy a better "hand-me-down" chassis and that would still be an improvement! Hopefully I can be here in ... wait, I forgot, actually I can't be here, 23:00 is too late and I usually sleep by then. Well, fingers crossed.

Gillet is another team I think are staying away tonight. I'm keeping my cards close to my chest but I do have money and selling either my chassis or engine pushes me into the 800 mark too.

As for sleeping, unless you want your team to suck again I'd stay awake. Heaven knows other members are going to do so.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 22 Aug 2012, 18:13

AdrianSutil wrote:
Shizuka wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Only 4 hours until this thread explodes with new and old teams fighting over their chassis and engine choices! Should be pretty intense

Well, there are some teams that will stay out of it (Castrol Jones, for example), and then there are teams that only seek for a chassis (my team, for example).
At least in my case, I could buy a better "hand-me-down" chassis and that would still be an improvement! Hopefully I can be here in ... wait, I forgot, actually I can't be here, 23:00 is too late and I usually sleep by then. Well, fingers crossed.

Gillet is another team I think are staying away tonight. I'm keeping my cards close to my chest but I do have money and selling either my chassis or engine pushes me into the 800 mark too.

As for sleeping, unless you want your team to suck again I'd stay awake. Heaven knows other members are going to do so.

Still waiting for Plus One's time to shine, but...

THIS
IS
GONNA
BE
EPIC!!!

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 22 Aug 2012, 18:22

We might not suck that much! Our target is to pre-qualify once anyway.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Aug 2012, 18:28

I like this. It's a real life mercato. Not calciomercato, but automercato. I was about to ask the question, who is going to do a Branca? And well, I already know the answer;

La Gazzetta Dello Sport wrote:AUTOMERCATO: Trueba chassis transferred

GDS has learned that with only hours remaining before the RWRS market opens, Scuderia Alitalia have sold their 2014 chassis to another team ahead of next season. The exact team is not yet known, however the team in question is likely to be one of the various squads stuck in pre-qualifying for most of last season, rather than a top team.

When pulling into the team's factory car park, team principal Alasdair Lindsay was questioned by journos waiting for soundbites. His response was brief;

"A sale of the chassis has been concluded. Full economic rights will be trasferred at 2300 CEST. No other details will be disclosed at this time."

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Aug 2012, 18:47

Kingfisher planning a swap?
A handful of Kingfisher mechanics and designers have been spotted moving several key components from one department into a sealed storage unit near the Sevenoaks base recently. This may just be a little shuffle of equipment on the eve of the RWRS market opening, or it could be a hint as what Kingfisher are wanting to sell. The last few days has seen the usually open and talkative Mr.Alexander stay inside the office with the door closed, which as any journalist knows, is 'always open for a cup of coffee and a chat'. Many mechanics have refused to answer questions and neither Ashley Watkinson or David Neuberg have been visiting the factory in the last two weeks. Whether this is just down to the team getting on with pre-season development or something more serious, hopefully all the answers will be in the open tomorrow.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 22 Aug 2012, 18:58

Autosport wrote:Sammy Jones: "Wake me up when this is all over."

As the announcements on F1RWRS teams' plans for the upcoming 2015 season reach boiling point this evening, Sammy Jones has declared the whole situation "a pathetic joke" and that he has requested some of his mechanics to wake him up later on when things have calmed down somewhat. It's a well-known fact that Jones had finalised the plans for his team for 2015 some time ago, with factory support from Ford coming in, and an updated chassis being designed, so the current activity is of little interest to him. Nonetheless, the Briton will want to keep a close eye on developments to see what his rivals plan to do for 2015.

Autosport understands that Gillet and Jones are currently well clear of the rest of the field as far as the bookmakers are concerned on the outcome of both championships. Currently William Hill are offering 4-1 odds that Gillet will scoop both titles, with Jones at 7-1 for the same result. The next best are DGNgineering, which, with their plans still not yet announced, are some way behind on 15-1.

Post by **Londoner** » 22 Aug 2012, 19:31

Seeing as I cocked up my evening by thinking that Waterloo Road started tonight (it actually starts tomorrow

), this should bring great entertainment. :lol:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Aug 2012, 20:14

Wow. I get back from holiday at lunchtime today to find the internet not working; it was sorted just before dinner; I come on in time to discover that the market is less than an hour away from opening!

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 22 Aug 2012, 20:24

I'd like to remind team owners that any upgrade operation must be done via email and that I will not atend any upgrade petition done through the forum

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 22 Aug 2012, 20:26

Why do I get the feeling that this is going to end very badly for me? :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Aug 2012, 20:30

Is it a problem that the stress of waiting for this has literally kept me up for half the night?

Then again, that might have been due to the fact that I'm coming to the realisation that my Business Report might just be a pile of excrement :lol:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Aug 2012, 20:32

Aerond wrote:I'd like to remind team owners that any upgrade operation must be done via email and that I will not atend any upgrade petition done through the forum

I've had a lot of posts to catch up on since I disappeared on holiday last Thursday, so thanks for the reminder. We email you what we want via the button below your avatar photo? Can we post on here as well anyway?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Aug 2012, 20:37

dr-baker wrote:
Aerond wrote:I'd like to remind team owners that any upgrade operation must be done via email and that I will not atend any upgrade petition done through the forum

I've had a lot of posts to catch up on since I disappeared on holiday last Thursday, so thanks for the reminder. We email you what we want via the button below your avatar photo? Can we post on here as well anyway?

You can post them here as well if you want us muppets to find out. It just won't be counted for anything :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Aug 2012, 20:38

kostas22 wrote:
La Gazzetta Dello Sport wrote:AUTOMERCATO: Trueba chassis transferred

GDS has learned that with only hours remaining before the RWRS market opens, Scuderia Alitalia have sold their 2014 chassis to another team ahead of next season. The exact team is not yet known, however the team in question is likely to be one of the various squads stuck in pre-qualifying for most of last season, rather than a top team.

When pulling into the team's factory car park, team principal Alasdair Lindsay was questioned by journos waiting for soundbites. His response was brief;

"A sale of the chassis has been concluded. Full economic rights will be trasferred at 2300 CEST. No other details will be disclosed at this time."

5 bucks says it's Shonan :lol: