F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 22 Aug 2012, 22:07

dr-baker wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
dr-baker wrote:If you want another team to enter, I might consider a Foxdale Junior Team, under West Cliff branding if that helps?

If you're quick about it, then sure. Especially since SuperAguri has done nothing about Kamaha since I gave him a shot on Sunday

OK, what do I need to do? (Plus I will need people to submit drivers - I am up to 4 of my 5-driver limit).

I'll need two drivers (although if you confirm just the one, that'll be fine, it could be a while before Aerond does starts the F1 season proper). You'll also have to give me the car numbers they'll use, a chassis designation, an engine from the list on the F3 regulations page on the wiki, and preferably a livery that either you or someone else has designed.

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 22 Aug 2012, 22:09

This is a totally trivial request, but TMLW, could you please change the KH-7 logos on the Prospec to Mr Muscle? It seems daft for a British team to be sponsored by a company who don't even sell their products in Britain!

Of course this might not matter now that we aren't getting video highlights.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 22 Aug 2012, 23:19

dr-baker wrote:OK, what do I need to do? (Plus I will need people to submit drivers - I am up to 4 of my 5-driver limit).

James Davies' younger cousin Jordan is interested in a seat.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Aug 2012, 23:29

I would suggest Foxdale/West Cliff use Lancia engines!

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 22 Aug 2012, 23:34

kostas22 wrote:I would suggest Foxdale/West Cliff use Lancia engines!

It would be more reliable than whatever the heck they used in the 2013 F1RWRS season!

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 23 Aug 2012, 03:12

the Masked Lapwing wrote:SuperAguri, if you can get a livery made (by which I mean get anyone except me to do it ) and confirm your car numbers before this Thursday, I might let you have a full-time entry (because I realised that there are still three team slots that I have to get rid of, so unless anyone knows how I can disable cars in GP4, I'm either going to have to fill those slots with entries or run cars that are much slower and hope they don't gte in the way when being lapped.)
Your drivers in the event you do get an entry are Bob Sampson and Victoria Desai right? (By the way, where is Sampson actually from?)

Car numbers are 78/79

I have been trying to make a livery but as I am not skilled with art programs it is taking longer then I really want

Worse comes to the worse, I will use a default livery.

Don't give my entry away after I worked hard to get two skilled drivers. Bob Sampson unless I hear otherwise is an American driver.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 23 Aug 2012, 03:45

SuperAguri wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:SuperAguri, if you can get a livery made (by which I mean get anyone except me to do it ) and confirm your car numbers before this Thursday, I might let you have a full-time entry (because I realised that there are still three team slots that I have to get rid of, so unless anyone knows how I can disable cars in GP4, I'm either going to have to fill those slots with entries or run cars that are much slower and hope they don't gte in the way when being lapped.)
Your drivers in the event you do get an entry are Bob Sampson and Victoria Desai right? (By the way, where is Sampson actually from?)

Car numbers are 78/79

I have been trying to make a livery but as I am not skilled with art programs it is taking longer then I really want Worse comes to the worse, I will use a default livery.

Don't give my entry away after I worked hard to get two skilled drivers. Bob Sampson unless I hear otherwise is an American driver.

Don't worry, I wasn't giving your entry away. I'm willing to have both Kamaha and West Cliff take part. If you can get the livery finished soon, great, if you can't send me what you have and I can try and finish it. As far I'm concerned, Kamaha is in.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 09:56

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
dr-baker wrote:OK, what do I need to do? (Plus I will need people to submit drivers - I am up to 4 of my 5-driver limit).

James Davies' younger cousin Jordan is interested in a seat.

As James Davies has raced with the Manns at one of their F1RWRS teams in the past and left on harmonious terms (was it AMR in about 2011?), they are happy to take on his younger cousin.

Do I need to choose a chassis/engine/tyres/car numbers etc.? What are the available options? (I imagine it's on the Wiki somewhere, but I don't know how to get there without somebody providing a link! Sorry.).

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:09

dr-baker wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
dr-baker wrote:OK, what do I need to do? (Plus I will need people to submit drivers - I am up to 4 of my 5-driver limit).

James Davies' younger cousin Jordan is interested in a seat.

As James Davies has raced with the Manns at one of their F1RWRS teams in the past and left on harmonious terms (was it AMR in about 2011?), they are happy to take on his younger cousin.

Do I need to choose a chassis/engine/tyres/car numbers etc.? What are the available options? (I imagine it's on the Wiki somewhere, but I don't know how to get there without somebody providing a link! Sorry.).

Chassis and tyres are whatever the hell you want. You need to choose an engine, from a table a few pages back (not really sure where exactly), and choose numbers that haven't already been chosen by other teams here.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 10:53

dr-baker wrote:OK, what do I need to do? (Plus I will need people to submit drivers - I am up to 4 of my 5-driver limit).

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:James Davies' younger cousin Jordan is interested in a seat.

dr-baker wrote: As James Davies has raced with the Manns at one of their F1RWRS teams in the past and left on harmonious terms (was it AMR in about 2011?), they are happy to take on his younger cousin.

Do I need to choose a chassis/engine/tyres/car numbers etc.? What are the available options? (I imagine it's on the Wiki somewhere, but I don't know how to get there without somebody providing a link! Sorry.).

kostas22 wrote: Chassis and tyres are whatever the hell you want. You need to choose an engine, from a table a few pages back (not really sure where exactly), and choose numbers that haven't already been chosen by other teams here.

OK then... (By the way, I had to go all the way back to page 15 for the engines!)

West Cliff Racing (a Foxdale Auto Racing Team junior team)
Chassis: Dallara F3R15
Engine: Mini JCW-F3
Tyres: Dunlop
Car numbers: 7 & 8
Drivers: Jordan Davies (in his choice of either 7 or 8), TBA
Livery: to resemble Foxdale's F1RWRS livery please (which resembles Williams' F1 livery of the early 1990s, but with the yellow just in front of the cockpit being blue instead)
Foxdale: http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad10 ... Livery.png (but with Renault logos replaced by Mini. Clearly. :roll:

)

Thanks - I wasn't planning on having a junior team, but then, Douglas Mann will have to be retired at some point (but not for a few years yet!) so may as well have a junior programme in place...

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 23 Aug 2012, 11:48

Apart from the tyre thing (kostas is wrong, everyone uses Bridgestones), it's all good.

I've run the fourth test session, it includes Fusion and Good Call but won't include Kamaha and West Cliff. I'll post it tomorrow.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 11:54

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Apart from the tyre thing (kostas is wrong, everyone uses Bridgestones), it's all good.

I've run the fourth test session, it includes Fusion and Good Call but won't include Kamaha and West Cliff. I'll post it tomorrow.

We use Pirellis everywhere. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 23 Aug 2012, 12:07

kostas22 wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:Apart from the tyre thing (kostas is wrong, everyone uses Bridgestones), it's all good.

I've run the fourth test session, it includes Fusion and Good Call but won't include Kamaha and West Cliff. I'll post it tomorrow.

We use Pirellis everywhere. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!

Funny, you use Michelins in the F2RWRS and aren't complaining

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 12:09

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:Apart from the tyre thing (kostas is wrong, everyone uses Bridgestones), it's all good.

I've run the fourth test session, it includes Fusion and Good Call but won't include Kamaha and West Cliff. I'll post it tomorrow.

We use Pirellis everywhere. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!

Funny, you use Michelins in the F2RWRS and aren't complaining

NO! PIRELLIS! PIRELLIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONE OF YOUR JAPANESE AND FRENCH CRAP!!! ONLY PREMIUM MILANO RUBBER!!!!!!!!

Post by **Ataxia** » 23 Aug 2012, 12:18

kostas22 wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
kostas22 wrote:We use Pirellis everywhere. WHAT IS THIS MADNESS?!

Funny, you use Michelins in the F2RWRS and aren't complaining

NO! PIRELLIS! PIRELLIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONE OF YOUR JAPANESE AND FRENCH CRAP!!! ONLY PREMIUM MILANO RUBBER!!!!!!!!

This worries me. It is very apparent that kostas has a severe case of Italianitis...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 12:19

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Apart from the tyre thing (kostas is wrong, everyone uses Bridgestones), it's all good.

I've run the fourth test session, it includes Fusion and Good Call but won't include Kamaha and West Cliff. I'll post it tomorrow.

Oh well, that'll just be another change for whoever could be nice enough to do my livery!

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 23 Aug 2012, 14:03

kostas22 wrote:NO! PIRELLIS! PIRELLIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONE OF YOUR JAPANESE AND FRENCH CRAP!!! ONLY PREMIUM MILANO RUBBER!!!!!!!!

New sig for me, with "!"s trimmed to fit into the sig. :lol:

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Aug 2012, 14:28

FMecha wrote:
kostas22 wrote:NO! PIRELLIS! PIRELLIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NONE OF YOUR JAPANESE AND FRENCH CRAP!!! ONLY PREMIUM MILANO RUBBER!!!!!!!!

New sig for me, with "!"s trimmed to fit into the sig.

I knew someone would make a joke out of "rubber" :lol:

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 23 Aug 2012, 16:05

dr-baker wrote:As James Davies has raced with the Manns at one of their F1RWRS teams in the past and left on harmonious terms (was it AMR in about 2011?), they are happy to take on his younger cousin.

2012. He'll also take number 7.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 16:31

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
dr-baker wrote:As James Davies has raced with the Manns at one of their F1RWRS teams in the past and left on harmonious terms (was it AMR in about 2011?), they are happy to take on his younger cousin.

2012. He'll also take number 7.

Ahh, one year out!

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 23 Aug 2012, 17:47

When is the race?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 18:05

dr-baker wrote:OK then... (By the way, I had to go all the way back to page 15 for the engines!)

West Cliff Racing (a Foxdale Auto Racing Team junior team)
Chassis: Dallara F3R15
Engine: Mini JCW-F3
Tyres: Dunlop
Car numbers: 7 & 8
Drivers: Jordan Davies (in his choice of either 7 or 8), TBA
Livery: to resemble Foxdale's F1RWRS livery please (which resembles Williams' F1 livery of the early 1990s, but with the yellow just in front of the cockpit being blue instead)
Foxdale: http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad10 ... Livery.png (but with Renault logos replaced by Mini. Clearly. )

Thanks - I wasn't planning on having a junior team, but then, Douglas Mann will have to be retired at some point (but not for a few years yet!) so may as well have a junior programme in place...

Oh what the heck, I'll do the livery. What sponsors you want on the car apart from Mini?

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 18:32

kostas22 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:OK then... (By the way, I had to go all the way back to page 15 for the engines!)

West Cliff Racing (a Foxdale Auto Racing Team junior team)
Chassis: Dallara F3R15
Engine: Mini JCW-F3
Tyres: Dunlop
Car numbers: 7 & 8
Drivers: Jordan Davies (in his choice of either 7 or 8), TBA
Livery: to resemble Foxdale's F1RWRS livery please (which resembles Williams' F1 livery of the early 1990s, but with the yellow just in front of the cockpit being blue instead)
Foxdale: http://i926.photobucket.com/albums/ad10 ... Livery.png (but with Renault logos replaced by Mini. Clearly. )

Thanks - I wasn't planning on having a junior team, but then, Douglas Mann will have to be retired at some point (but not for a few years yet!) so may as well have a junior programme in place...

Oh what the heck, I'll do the livery. What sponsors you want on the car apart from Mini?

Thanks kostas. Mini, Bridgestone, West Cliff on one sidepod and Foxdale on the other (as in the F1RWRS livery), plus these:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Aug 2012, 19:38

Mr dr-baker, your liveries are ready.

#7 // Jordan Davies
#8 // TBA

Unfortunately you won't be able to see them until TMLW downloads these and posts screenshots. However, they're not 100% replicas, because of the modern design of the GP2 car I can't do a straight across the airbox like on the original Canon Williamses. So it's more like a flowing curve from the airbox to the tail of the engine cover instead. But other than that, mostly the same.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Aug 2012, 21:00

kostas22 wrote:Mr dr-baker, your liveries are ready.

#7 // Jordan Davies
#8 // TBA

Unfortunately you won't be able to see them until TMLW downloads these and posts screenshots. However, they're not 100% replicas, because of the modern design of the GP2 car I can't do a straight across the airbox like on the original Canon Williamses. So it's more like a flowing curve from the airbox to the tail of the engine cover instead. But other than that, mostly the same.

Thanks for doing that. I look forward to seeing the final results! All I need now is one more driver...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Aug 2012, 17:39

OK, I have four drivers in F1RWRS, so I have one driver slot left available, and one seat left to fill in this series. I will also eventually need to retire drivers from F1RWRS, so...

West Cliff Racing announce second driver

F3RWRS's newest team, West Cliff Racing, a sister team to F1RWRS's Foxdale Auto Racing Team, are announcing that Peter Port, from Guernsey, one of the Channel Islands, will drive the number 8 car alongside Jordan Davies. Like his compatriot, Andy Priaulx, Peter started his motorsport career in hillclimbing events with reasonable success for the past three years from the age of 18. Now aged 21, he has his sights set on reaching the prestigious F1RWRS series, so has joined a team with links to that series.

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 24 Aug 2012, 18:24

Peter Port? That's an even more lame pun than Douglas Mann :lol:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Aug 2012, 20:11

Warren Hughes wrote:Peter Port? That's an even more lame pun than Douglas Mann

Yeah! I know! Great, isn't it!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 24 Aug 2012, 22:25

I don't get either pun. I didn't know Douglas Mann was a pun :oops:

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 24 Aug 2012, 22:29

Douglas is the capital of the Isle of Man. Hence Douglas Mann is named after both the island itself and its capital. Meanwhile, the capital of Peter Port's home island of Guernsey is, erm, St Peter Port.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 25 Aug 2012, 04:30

http://www.sendspace.com/file/wjt6vj

Here is Kamahas .tga livery... without numbers and hoping that it will work.... :mrgreen:

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 25 Aug 2012, 08:25

Pictures!

West Cliff

Kamaha

Fusion

Good Call

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:37

2015 - Test Session 4 - Phillip Island

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Pos Driver                     Team         Time
1   Joel Melrose               JLD          1:26.506
2   Dan Greenlaw               Prospec      1:26.507
3   Daniel Melville            ZimSport     1:27.376
4   Raul Souto Maior           Aeroracing   1:27.485
5   Martin van der Maeyede     Kingfisher   1:27.617
6   Joe Harmsky                Shonan       1:27.879
7   Diego Mauricio Batistuta   Aeroracing   1:27.897
8   Franc Piscine              Good Call    1:28.029
9   Nick Nurmester             JLD          1:28.157
10  Dorien Lamberigts          Octan        1:28.375
11  Ryan Zimmer                ZimSport     1:28.408
12  Carsten Jancker            Hydook       1:28.540

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13  Eric Swerts                Jones        1:28.564
14  Nathanael Cameron          Prospec      1:28.684
15  Kevin Bainomugisha         Octan        1:28.786
16  Leandro Moreira            Fusion       1:28.874
17  Roberto Dinella            Jones        1:28.891
18  Lorenzo Crescenzi          Parma Corse  1:28.968
19  Tyler Buckley              Gulf JCW     1:28.977
20  Shane Walsh                ZombieKart   1:29.003
21  Marko Jantscher            Fusion       1:29.156
22  Hendra Naufal              Takagi       1:29.294
23  Anita Horford              BITWM        1:29.465
24  Calvin Brooks              Kingfisher   1:29.473
25  Roberto Zayas              ZombieKart   1:29.500

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26  Marcos Marcia              Good Call    1:29.593
27  Branko Ristic              Hydook       1:29.614
28  Tetsuya Takagi             Takagi       1:29.805
29  Dale Hamilton              Red Bull     1:30.231
30  Roland Davidson            Gulf JCW     1:30.241
31  Judd McAllister            BITWM        1:30.570
32  Samora Mondlane            Porto Wine   1:30.967
33  Yuri Sokolov               Shonan       1:31.076
34  Alessandro Lucarelli       Parma Corse  1:31.145
35  Takuma Taki                Red Bull     1:31.349
36  Iulian Pitea               Dofasco      1:31.828
37  Jose Maria Cabral          Porto Wine   1:32.196
38  Jan Maylander              Dofasco      1:34.376

Not long before the start of the season, the teams, with two of the new additions, turned out at Phillip Island for one final test. Joel Melrose led the way as most teams ran qualifying simulations. Of the new teams, Fusion were solid if not spectacular, while Good Call had Franc Piscine finish in the top 10, but had Marcos Marcia outside the top 25.

That'll be it until Adelaide. I'm willing to have one more team join in with West Cliff and Kamaha, and after the Adelaide round I'll open the entry list for the Monaco SuperPrix (details to be announced later).

Post by **Ataxia** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:44

To get 2 cars in the top 25 in our first session is very good indeed. We're after consistent good results this season as we slowly bed the team in. Stability is the key.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:46

Well, it was certainly better than the previous test...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:54

If Lucarelli does not pick up his game asap, consider him sacked.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 25 Aug 2012, 10:57

Martin van der Maeyede wrote:Well, even I'm surprised at how fast the car was today. Coming out of the first test, missing the next two, and then coming back in the car and still being competitive is fantastic. It just shows what a good job the boys back at the factory have done with this year's car. It's a shame Calvin couldn't get the best out of the car today, but I'm sure it was just an off day for him. He better get his skates on though, because as my Nana back in Eindhoven used to say, 'Time and tide wait for no man'.

Takuma Taki wrote:To be in bottom 10 is dissapoint, for sure. I thought drive today was good, 100%, but no, it was slow.

Franc Piscine wrote:I must say the car is very good. It runs like a Swiss watch.

Luke Knight wrote:In the top 10 in our first proper test is fantastic. Well done to the lads today in getting the maximum out of the car, I feel we can really make an impression with a bit of work. To have one car faster than both cars of an established team like Jones and Parma Corse is simply unbeleivvable. The Foster's are on me tonight!

Marcos Marcia wrote:I tried my best today boss, I kept getting blocked by those stupida Dofascos

Luke Knight wrote: Yeah lad I know I saw them, the Tabants used in the REECS are faster than those lumps of shite. Anyway, if you don't go bloody faster next time you'll be getting the tin tack faster than you can say paella!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:22

dr-baker wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Mr dr-baker, your liveries are ready.

#7 // Jordan Davies
#8 // TBA

Unfortunately you won't be able to see them until TMLW downloads these and posts screenshots. However, they're not 100% replicas, because of the modern design of the GP2 car I can't do a straight across the airbox like on the original Canon Williamses. So it's more like a flowing curve from the airbox to the tail of the engine cover instead. But other than that, mostly the same.

Thanks for doing that. I look forward to seeing the final results! All I need now is one more driver...

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Pictures!

West Cliff

Thanks, it's great, I like it.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:24

I might try to lodge in an entry into F3RWRS,but I highly doubt it might work...

Linton-Solindahl Motorsports

Livery:Don't even know how to paint,but a simple grenn/black livery will do,with Carlsberg and Top Gear being the sponsors
Numbers:48 & 49
Engine: Mini
Chassis:LS-F31
Country of Origin:Britian/Danish
Drivers:Paul Travesen(DAN)-22 y/o(#48),Quentin Reatherson(GB)-21 y/o(#49)
Tyres:Dunlop
Bio:Travesen won 4 races and finished second in Formula Renault 2.0,and is making the jump to F3RWRS.Reatherson is the grandson of Henry Reatherson,who fielded entries for Joe Kelly back in 1951 in F1.Having participated in British F3 for three years,taking 9 poles and 5 victories and finishing thrid last year,he is hoping that the trip to the RWRS will be succesful.

The team itself is a partnership between Britian and Denmark,having racing enthusiasts and friends James Linton and Jesper Solindahl join forces to create the perfect Anglo-Dane squad.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 25 Aug 2012, 11:28

WaffleCat wrote:I might try to lodge in an entry into F3RWRS,but I highly doubt it might work...

Linton-Solindahl Motorsports

Livery:Don't even know how to paint,but a simple grenn/black livery will do,with Carlsberg and Top Gear being the sponsors
Numbers:48 & 49
Engine: Mini
Chassis:LS-F31
Country of Origin:Britian/Danish
Drivers:Paul Travesen(DAN)-22 y/o(#48),Quentin Reatherson(GB)-21 y/o(#49)
Tyres:Dunlop
Bio:Travesen won 4 races and finished second in Formula Renault 2.0,and is making the jump to F3RWRS.Reatherson is the grandson of Henry Reatherson,who fielded entries for Joe Kelly back in 1951 in F1.Having participated in British F3 for three years,taking 9 poles and 5 victories and finishing thrid last year,he is hoping that the trip to the RWRS will be succesful.

The team itself is a partnership between Britian and Denmark,having racing enthusiasts and friends James Linton and Jesper Solindahl join forces to create the perfect Anglo-Dane squad.

Welcome to the F3RWRS! I'll knock together a livery for you, I just need a constructor name for the chassis.