F1RDS - 2015 Season - Preparation for 2016/Driver Signups

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Re: F1RDS - 2015 Season - Fuji Race & Winter Cup Complete!

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BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Did Võsu have a collision early on?

Anyway, happy to have Tõnu on the podium, looks like he isn't that useless after all.


Yeah, she got a little swamped at the start and got caught up when Nakaya and Reith locked up before the first corner.

Fix'd, good to know it wasn't entirely her fault. The team scored points in every race, I guess that's something of an achievement!
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Re: F1RDS - 2015 Season - Fuji Race & Winter Cup Complete!

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Nuppiz wrote:
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Did have a collision early on?

Anyway, happy to have Tõnu on the podium, looks like he isn't that useless after all.


Yeah, she got a little swamped at the start and got caught up when Nakaya and Reith locked up before the first corner.

Fix'd, good to know it wasn't entirely her fault. The team scored points in every race, I guess that's something of an achievement!


Oops, again I got that wrong. Note to self, Võsu is female.

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If you want to make a driver change, the deadline will be Saturday for that.

Then I'll crack on with Adelaide.
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Re: F1RDS - 2015 Season - Season Underway (R1 Quali up)

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Round 1 - Australian GP Qualifying

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Not bad, not bad...
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Thomas Butler wrote:Yeah, that were good today. Now I need this bloody car to perform like a loaf of sliced bread tomorrow, instead of taking a trip down the staircase without a parachute.


Someone at Kingfisher wrote:What the f*** is he on? :?



Laura Wener wrote:Mer, every flyer was blocked by traffic. But the field is very bunched up, so odds on that I can steal some points tomorrow.


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Re: F1RDS - 2015 Season - Season Underway (R1 Quali up)

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Urm, I'm afraid to say everybody ran out of fuel 22 laps in. I've tried a ton of different distance settings, and everyone's running out with 2 laps to go...

Qualifying may need a re-run, I'm massively sorry about that...
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BaconLettuceNinja wrote:Urm, I'm afraid to say everybody ran out of fuel 22 laps in. I've tried a ton of different distance settings, and everyone's running out with 2 laps to go...

Qualifying may need a re-run, I'm massively sorry about that...

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Fixed it, had to decrease the fuel consumption so should be fine now.

Kostas, it was kinda out of my control...probably. I'm moderately new to GP2 so I'm still learning the setup and editors.

I still need to rerun qualifying though...I'll be in the sin bin.
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Re: F1RDS - 2015 Season - Season Underway (R1 Quali up)

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F1RDS Round 1 - Australia

After it emerged that all of the cars were supplied with illegal fuel (with a higher octane number than the regulations allow), the qualifying and race had to be run later than expected.

Qualifying Results:
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Race: (up soon!)
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Liam McGuigan wrote:So the bastards rerun the quali session after Jerry mate had done so well?! Where's the guy with the fuel tanker, I'm gonna strangle the bastard! :x
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Liam McGuigan wrote:So the bastards rerun the quali session after Jerry mate had done so well?! Where's the guy with the fuel tanker, I'm gonna strangle the bastard! :x

Niko Nurminen wrote:When you're done please tell me where I can find the guy as well, Anu fell like a brick compared to the first session...
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Liam McGuigan wrote:So the bastards rerun the quali session after Jerry mate had done so well?! Where's the guy with the fuel tanker, I'm gonna strangle the bastard! :x

Niko Nurminen wrote:When you're done please tell me where I can find the gu as well, Anu fell like a brick compared to the first session...

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Development Series Board of Directors wrote:We'll cop the flak for this, clearly some of the members on this board are idiots. We apologise for any inconvenience caused and we endeavour to make sure this doesn't happen again.


RACE COVERAGE HERE.
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BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
Development Series Board of Directors wrote:We'll cop the flak for this, clearly some of the members on this board are idiots. We apologise for any inconvenience caused and we endeavour to make sure this doesn't happen again.


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pasta_maldonado wrote:Sir there is an error here with the results. Gary Pacer won this race, but the results say Feldhoffer won it, even though he was 15th at the line:

Then the results say:

Please do not re-run the race. Please. Please. PLEASE.

You're reading the fastest lap chart, you dolt. :lol:

Here's the race results:
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Nuppiz wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Sir there is an error here with the results. Gary Pacer won this race, but the results say Feldhoffer won it, even though he was 15th at the line:

Then the results say:

Please do not re-run the race. Please. Please. PLEASE.

You're reading the fastest lap chart, you dolt. :lol:

Here's the race results:
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Ooops!! :oops: Reject of the thread for me! Anyway...

Luke Knight, over the radio wrote:You've done it Gary! You've won the race!

Gary Pacer, over the radio wrote: Woooooooooohhooooooo!! Yeah! This car is amazing!"

Luke Knight wrote:I'm lost for words. Shocked. For Gary... to take Plus One's first competitive win, here, this weekend is fantastastic. Especially after the exceptionally poor Winter cup. The start from both Gary and Alexis was fantastic, Gary got into the lead, and Alexis right up there. Ekdal kept Pacer honest but we were too good today, we'll be partying tonight!!

Gary Pacer wrote: Wow. I won my first race on an international level. I can't beleive it! The gears just came seamlessly at the start, that must have been the best start of my career. Bjorn was sometimes right behind me,scarily close, but I managed to keep him behind. It must have been the boss on the radio saying "Keep him behind son" for 12 laps! I'm thrilled for the team too, let's crack open that free supply of Foster's!

Alexi Tantovich wrote:I am thrilled with podium today, I had great race and good start. I pleased for Gary and for the team, but I happy with my performance today.
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Wow, Feldhoffer got a nice run there! But poor Jalmerson...
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6th-7th? Hm... alright, but we expected better!

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Thanks a bathplugging lot, Silva was screwed out of his points for qualifying and any chance of a good result because of this stuff up :roll: :roll: :roll:
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eurobrun wrote:Thanks a bathplugging lot, Silva was screwed out of his points for qualifying and any chance of a good result because of this stuff up :roll: :roll: :roll:


But...but I...Image

I'm pretty sure it's something to do with the race length that happened, but now I can reduce fuel consumption so we don't have the mass retirements...if it happens again you can have my address and murder me in a creative way. And there's still 14 races to go...
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BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Thanks a bathplugging lot, Silva was screwed out of his points for qualifying and any chance of a good result because of this stuff up :roll: :roll: :roll:


But...but I...Image


That face :lol:

I suggest that you have the original qualifying results count to experience points :?:
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Re: F1RDS - 2015 Season - Round 1 (Adelaide) Coverage Up

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eurobrun wrote:
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Thanks a bathplugging lot, Silva was screwed out of his points for qualifying and any chance of a good result because of this stuff up :roll: :roll: :roll:


But...but I...Image


That face :lol:

I suggest that you have the original qualifying results count to experience points :?:


Hmm, a good suggestion. It might make up for it for some people.

Not that it'll matter for Shukinen anyway... :lol:

Anyway, bed for me. Wiki's more or less updated with the points standings.
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An absolutely irate James Douglas wrote:Au, these blimin bright sparks in Race Control must have been away with the bloody fairies bro when they decided to wipe all the blimin results cuz. Next thing you know, all three Commissioners are going all agro and the fans were going nuts with all the event rescheduling at the last minute, which meant the F1RWRS race was moved back by a blimin hour just so they could cover for this drongo's dodgy planning mate.

And then you get to the blimin race with all those hoons and boy racers on track going full agro while I was trying to get the car home and hosed bro. One of those manus at Aeroracing tried to slam the door on me at one point whilst side by side in the middle of a blimin straight and nearly munted the car bro. It's blimin frustrating that I bust a gut for bugger all out there which all could have been avoided if those bright sparks upstairs actually had a clue about what they're doing and I'm blimin well brassed off about it cuz.
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Kurniawan's not bad, but Aya is deadbeat.

Standings, please? :)
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FMecha wrote:Kurniawan's not bad, but Aya is deadbeat.

Standings, please? :)


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Mr.Alexander was not at all happy that the qualifying session was done again, following accusations that faster-burning illegal fuel was used to set the times. "It's proven to be a massive headache for the team. Thomas qualified a superb 2nd but was dumped down to 13th after the session was re-started. I'm not alone here, but the authorities really bathplug this weekend up for nearly every team. Still, that's racing. We remain quick in qualifying yet slow in the race, but we knew this when taking the VW engine on. Still, it gives both Tom and Stan valuable experience when fighting for track position. Even if they have poor seasons for us, we know both drivers have plenty of skill."
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Jimmy Rosenforth wrote:This is ridiculous. How can they run a qualifying session, then send us out to do it again because they stuffed up?

John Zimmer wrote:I don't know, but it was hilarious :lol:
But seriously man, what's with the gutless pieces of crap you call engines? They're supposed to be good for races right? Why did James struggle so badly?

Jimmy Rosenforth wrote:Hmm. I'll look into that at the shop. Actually, I'll call up Roter Baron and Donkervoort and see what problems they had.


The comments about qualifying don't reflect my actual feelings (it suits a reject series perfectly :lol: ).
But the comments about the engines do. I can understand why they qualify so badly, but not why they fail to make any ground in races.
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Jimmy Rosenforth wrote:This is ridiculous. How can they run a qualifying session, then send us out to do it again because they stuffed up?

John Zimmer wrote:I don't know, but it was hilarious :lol:
But seriously man, what's with the gutless pieces of crap you call engines? They're supposed to be good for races right? Why did James struggle so badly?

Jimmy Rosenforth wrote:Hmm. I'll look into that at the shop. Actually, I'll call up Roter Baron and Donkervoort and see what problems they had.


The comments about qualifying don't reflect my actual feelings (it suits a reject series perfectly :lol: ).
But the comments about the engines do. I can understand why they qualify so badly, but not why they fail to make any ground in races.


It's a good point, it might be due to the nature of the Adelaide circuit. In the Winter Cup, three Toyota users ended up in the top 3 of the Championship so I am more inclined to think it's the circuit.

But yes, it's a system I'd like to discuss with everyone in preparation for 2016.

For everyone that was disadvantaged by the re-running of the qualifying session, I will add half of the qualification points that would have been gained in Round 1 onto the perfs of drivers who dropped out of the top 10, i.e. Butler, de Boer and Silva.

Two races at Imola next, I'll use them to ensure this series becomes a little more professional... :lol:

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Thomas Butler wrote:The bathplug was that crap? It was like driving a Sinclair C5 on steadily reducing charge. Total and utter embarrasment. Had no means of fending off my fellow competitors. I shall be drinking myself into a state tonight, through the medium of real ale, to forget this mild disaster.


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BaconLettuceNinja wrote:In the Winter Cup, three Toyota users ended up in the top 3 of the Championship so I am more inclined to think it's the circuit.


In what universe is an Opel a Toyota?

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:For everyone that was disadvantaged by the re-running of the qualifying session, I will add half of the qualification points that would have been gained in Round 1 onto the perfs of drivers who dropped out of the top 10, i.e. Butler, de Boer and Silva.


I also have a problem with this. How likely is it that a Toyota will qualify in the top 10 anytime soon? Awarding points for qualifying is basically saying "Oh, you have a VW engine? Here, have a bigger advantage," and the Toyota cars will fall further behind in quali and struggle to even make the top 10 in the races.
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BaconLettuceNinja wrote:In the Winter Cup, three Toyota users ended up in the top 3 of the Championship so I am more inclined to think it's the circuit.


In what universe is an Opel a Toyota?


Sorry, I mean top 6...

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:For everyone that was disadvantaged by the re-running of the qualifying session, I will add half of the qualification points that would have been gained in Round 1 onto the perfs of drivers who dropped out of the top 10, i.e. Butler, de Boer and Silva.


I also have a problem with this. How likely is it that a Toyota will qualify in the top 10 anytime soon? Awarding points for qualifying is basically saying "Oh, you have a VW engine? Here, have a bigger advantage," and the Toyota cars will fall further behind in quali and struggle to even make the top 10 in the races.[/quote]

You break my bawrs Hans, you break my bawrs... :lol:

No, you do raise a good point. I will admit I should have thought about that before, and perhaps I felt I could rush the regulations and proceedings by basing it on something I already knew. I think the best course of action would be to scrap qualifying points for now. EVERYTHING will be revisited in time for next season, so that we have a series that's not as flawed as it currently is. I thought that the VW cars would slide down the field like butter, but it's not completely been proven to be the case. The plan was to give them more of a fighting chance by helping them in qualifying, but due to having more power anyway it turns out it's a bit pointless.

This has been something of an inauspicious start to the series, I guess. :oops:

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I was also going to raise a point about the balance problems of awarding performance points in the qualifying and race. TMLW sums it up perfectly, but I'd say it's just as reasonable to argue that the same situation will occur in races. Take the underpowered cars in the race, they finish badly because they're down on power, so how are they supposed to get to the front and improve over the year? They're just going to get left behind by the drivers who'll just keep collecting more and more performance each race.

I'm sorry to bash your idea, I think in theory it's excellent and a great way of rewarding success, but I think for it to work properly you need a spec series with just one chassis and engine.
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AndreaModa wrote:I was also going to raise a point about the balance problems of awarding performance points in the qualifying and race. TMLW sums it up perfectly, but I'd say it's just as reasonable to argue that the same situation will occur in races. Take the underpowered cars in the race, they finish badly because they're down on power, so how are they supposed to get to the front and improve over the year? They're just going to get left behind by the drivers who'll just keep collecting more and more performance each race.

I'm sorry to bash your idea, I think in theory it's excellent and a great way of rewarding success, but I think for it to work properly you need a spec series with just one chassis and engine.


Yeah, that is true. I think the results in Adelaide have proved that sometimes the lesser-powered cars in the race can get some good results though, so we should be able to finish the season as we are. Shukinen got a rather good result in the last race, and hence he's got some points to his name to ensure that he's got a chance of going away with more. In theory, Monaco might play into their hands more too so it's not going to be a complete whitewash.

A spec-series would probably be looked at for 2016, because as you said the performance system would be more effective then. I'll draft an upgrade system for then as well. I don't want to write off this season though, because on the basis of the last race we could have quite an interesting season.
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Or, alternatively, you can do the performance files based solely on experience rather than results like in the F2RWRS.
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Wizzie wrote:Or, alternatively, you can do the performance files based solely on experience rather than results like in the F2RWRS.


But that's a lottery isn't it Wizzie? I never made any requests for Hawkin to be a great driver, nor did The Lukas say anything about Kremnicky. Then you have the members who are so obsessed with success in a fictional championship that they brand their drivers' experience as if they've been driving for 20 years. That sort of system is fine, but is not only random, but also clearly open to abuse.
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AndreaModa wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Or, alternatively, you can do the performance files based solely on experience rather than results like in the F2RWRS.


But that's a lottery isn't it Wizzie? I never made any requests for Hawkin to be a great driver, nor did The Lukas say anything about Kremnicky. Then you have the members who are so obsessed with success in a fictional championship that they brand their drivers' experience as if they've been driving for 20 years. That sort of system is fine, but is not only random, but also clearly open to abuse.


Actually, the Lukas wanted Kremnicky to be a good driver but that plan was shot in the water about 12 laps into the first race of last year. After the first round of drivers however, most of the new guys came in with either F3RWRS experience like Hawkin (and considering he nearly won the F3RWRS title despite missing a race, my estimation for the performance file was pretty much spot-on anyway :lol: ) and most of the 2015 rookies, or ROLFS experience like Buyvolov and Pascal which meant I could calculate stats based on those results. Incidentally, with the singular exception of Cieslar, that closed the gap between the top drivers and worst drivers from 1000 to 800 points which meant that the field closed up even further, particularly during qualifying and in spite of the new engine regulations.
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