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eurobrun wrote:
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eurobrun wrote:Both regular Williams drivers considerably faster than Bottas across the two practice sessions. I am not trying to start anything, I am just pointing out a fact to justify why I don't think he deserves to get the Williams race seat


What? Bashing Bottas again? :P


There are two things that might give Bottas a seat: He is not crash-prone and he is not a bitter disappointment of a driver by trundling along battling with Toro Rossos when his team-mate shows how fast the car is (right before crashing into something. Or getting a penalty. Whichever comes first).


Judging by practice speeds Bottas would be trundling along behind the Toro Rossos ;)


Practice is rarely a true showcase for speed...plus, he has outdone the other Williams drivers at other points during the season anyway.
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BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
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What? Bashing Bottas again? :P


There are two things that might give Bottas a seat: He is not crash-prone and he is not a bitter disappointment of a driver by trundling along battling with Toro Rossos when his team-mate shows how fast the car is (right before crashing into something. Or getting a penalty. Whichever comes first).


Judging by practice speeds Bottas would be trundling along behind the Toro Rossos ;)


Practice is rarely a true showcase for speed...plus, he has outdone the other Williams drivers at other points during the season anyway.


But he isn't able to beat them on a regular basis. I mainly don't think he deserves a drive because even if there was any performance increase it would'nt be enough for the considerable amount of money that Williams would lose.
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With 30 minutes to go in FP3, which was actually about 6 minutes ago, Narain Karthikeyan did his best Bruno Senna-impersonation.
It was quite funny how he waved his hands in anger at the slower car in front. I didn't catch who it was, though. I was so intrigued by Narain's waving that I failed to notice who he waved at.
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Alonso must be ruing that mistake in Japan as that Ferrari simpli has no pace whatsoever
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Oh dear, Martin Donnelly and co are gonna have one hell of a long night sorting this crap out :|
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Ricciardo's parked at the side of the road and still beat Vergne :lol:
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Lewis nearly drilled the back of Michael's car in pit lane :lol:
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Way to go, Mark.
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Wibbah!

The only question is how many places he'll lose at the start.
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Ide wrote:I'll just leave this in here. :lol:

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What in the name of bathplug is that :shock:
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Haha, that's mental! :lol:

So, Webber 1st and Vettel 2nd? I smell team orders tomorrow a mile off.

Yeah, I'm that cynical.
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Mexicola wrote:Haha, that's mental! :lol:

So, Webber 1st and Vettel 2nd? I smell team orders tomorrow a mile off.

Yeah, I'm that cynical.


It's only slightly less obvious than Massa letting Alonso through back in Germany in 2010.
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Mexicola wrote:Haha, that's mental! :lol:

So, Webber 1st and Vettel 2nd? I smell team orders tomorrow a mile off.

Yeah, I'm that cynical.


That's not being cynical, that's the bleeding obvious. If I was Christian Horner I'd do the same. But who cares? Webber will fluff the start and be collected by the First Lap Nutcase anyway...
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Watching the qualifying made me feel miserable. And no, it wasn't due to a Red Bull lockout...

It's the track. Some camera views really showed off the unused scrubland behind the main grandstand and it was really depressing; especially with the grey sky behind it. No wonder crowds are rubbish; there's got to be absolutely no atmosphere whatsoever.
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Phoenix wrote:
Mexicola wrote:Haha, that's mental! :lol:

So, Webber 1st and Vettel 2nd? I smell team orders tomorrow a mile off.

Yeah, I'm that cynical.


That's not being cynical, that's the bleeding obvious. If I was Christian Horner I'd do the same. But who cares? Webber will fluff the start and be collected by the First Lap Nutcase anyway...


Exactly, Webber won't lead into turn 1, even if his starts have somewhat improved this year. Vettel will lead into turn 1.
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Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
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Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.


How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.


How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.

Especially considering the better driver is in the red car.
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Minardi Man wrote:
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Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.


How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.

Especially considering the better driver is in the red car.

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Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.


Unless Webber take out Vettel in the start.
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Dj_bereta wrote:
Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.


Unless Webber take out Vettel in the start.


Or Grosjean does the same.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.


How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.


Alonso came so close to being eliminated in Q1 it's not funny. As it was, he barely scraped in on the supersofts
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Wizzie wrote:
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Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.


How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.


Alonso came so close to being eliminated in Q1 it's not funny. As it was, he barely scraped in on the supersofts


Someone (I think it was on the BBC coverage) was saying that Alonso's Q1 lap was an incredibly tactful one as he didn't go all-out on those tyres to preserve them for the race, and only did the bare minimum he needed to get into Q2. If that's true, that was the dictionary definition of 'risky'.
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Wizzie wrote:
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Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.


How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.


Alonso came so close to being eliminated in Q1 it's not funny. As it was, he barely scraped in on the supersofts


He made it to Q3, and put the car on the second row. His practice times were pretty competitive too. Q1 was quite clearly, for whatever reason, an outlier.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.


Alonso came so close to being eliminated in Q1 it's not funny. As it was, he barely scraped in on the supersofts


He made it to Q3, and put the car on the second row. His practice times were pretty competitive too. Q1 was quite clearly, for whatever reason, an outlier.


Perhaps he was just breaking the tyres in for Q2?
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Bathplug, Button has damage.

Well done Kamui! :evil:
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Don't think Kamui wants a drive next year.
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So both Saubers smacked Button at the start. Dear oh dear oh dear. :roll:
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I like Kobayashi, but I have to echo Button's thoughts here - what an idiot.

A shame, as on those tyres they could both have had interesting races.
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Perez wants shooting after that move at the start.
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I thought Kobayashi had a puncture that caused it, but evidently just his own fault, damn what a fail after such a storming drive in Japan *shakes head* Still interesting how Jenson was just stood at the side of the trackm evidently the recovery facilities are still below par
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Sauber, Y U NO HAVE TWO GOOD WEEKENDS IN A ROW?
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Well, that's the race. Well done Vettel. :(
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These marshalls are useless. Why is Rosberg's car still on the side of the track?
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Rosberg's car still not recovered, if there's more indicidents this couild be trouble with regards to getting vehicle back to the garage. Oooh wonder what Button and Rosberg are chatting about? :lol: Nicely done Vergne! Kobaycrashi drive through, saw that one coming, race ruined.
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