1997 F1RGP2C Season - Duel in the Desert RACE Up

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 18 Oct 2012, 03:15

Wizzie wrote:Umm, Kickert left Sauber at the end of last year boss

That was embarassing. Fixed.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 18 Oct 2012, 03:43

F1RGP2C Apertura: 1997

Borrowing this idea from dinizintheoven and Adx_Wales, here are the 1997 Apertura results.

Seeding:
1. Daniel Moreno
2. Andrew Spokes
3. John Zimmer
4. Tom Douglas
5. Leonhard von Gottorp
6. Damon Cannon
7. Kazuhiko Takagi
8. Rory McAllister
9. Pieter Kickert
10. James Davies
11. Masta Valsattis
12. Gio van Dycke
13. Pablo da Silva
14. Bernhard Pech
15. Reiko Megumi
16. Jorg Scrattenheim

Round 1

1 Daniel Moreno (DNQ) vs. 16 Jorg Scrattenheim (DNF)
2 Andrew Spokes (2nd) vs. 15 Reiko Megumi (DNF)
3 John Zimmer (4th) vs. 14 Bernhard Pech (DNF)
4 Tom Douglas (8th) vs. 13 Pablo da Silva (3rd)
5 Leonhard von Gottorp (DNF) vs. 12 Gio van Dycke (DNF)
6 Damon Cannon (5th) vs. 11 Masta Valsattis (DNF)
7 Kazuhiko Takagi (DNF) vs. 10 James Davies (DNF)
8 Rory McAllister (1st) vs. 9 Pieter Kickert (DNF)

Round 2

16 Jorg Scrattenheim (DNF) vs. 8 Rory McAllister (13th)
13 Pablo da Silva (6th) vs. 12 Gio van Dycke (DNF)
2 Andrew Spokes (DNF) vs. 10 James Davies (DNF)
3 John Zimmer (DNF) vs. 6 Damon Cannon (5th)

Round 3

8 Rory McAllister (DNF) vs. 13 Pablo da Silva (10th)
10 James Davies (1st) vs. 6 Damon Cannon (6th)

Round 4
10 James Davies (2nd) vs. 13 Pablo da Silva (11th)

James Davies wins despite not finishing in the first two races. Pablo da Silva's improbable run through the field came to an end in Round 4.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 18 Oct 2012, 06:24

tristan1117 wrote:F1RGP2C Apertura: 1997

Borrowing this idea from dinizintheoven and ADx_Wales, here are the 1997 Apertura results.

Fixed for truth.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Oct 2012, 07:02

tristan1117 wrote:James Davies wins despite not finishing in the first two races.

James Davies wrote:Ha ha! I'm on a roll here, losers!

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 18 Oct 2012, 10:08

Meanwhile, I'm proposing a F1RGP2C Predicament Predictions. Predictions would look like this:

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Pole position:
Fastest lap:
First retirement:
Reject of the race:
Golden Papaya:
DNQ:

Points system will be as follows:
2 for correct finishing positions
1 for "right driver, wrong position" (what is it, actually?

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1 for correct fastest lap and pole position
3 for correct ROTR prediction
2 for correct Golden Papaya (near-miss/7th position) prediction
2 for correct DNQ prediction
-4 for late submission or late changes (when Tristan posts qualifying times, it is the deadline)

Thoughts?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 18 Oct 2012, 10:10

At this rate, I could claim royalties on all the spin-offs of PP :lol:

Post by **Nuppiz** » 18 Oct 2012, 10:12

Niko Nurminen wrote:Well, at least I was ahead of Ben Fleet. I hope there'll be attrition at the race and I manage to keep the car neatly between the walls.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 18 Oct 2012, 19:16

FMecha wrote:Meanwhile, I'm proposing a F1RGP2C Predicament Predictions. Predictions would look like this:
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Pole position:
Fastest lap:
First retirement:
Reject of the race:
Golden Papaya:
DNQ:
Points system will be as follows:
2 for correct finishing positions
1 for "right driver, wrong position" (what is it, actually? )
1 for correct fastest lap and pole position
3 for correct ROTR prediction
2 for correct Golden Papaya (near-miss/7th position) prediction
2 for correct DNQ prediction
-4 for late submission or late changes (when Tristan posts qualifying times, it is the deadline)

Thoughts?

You'd have to do the scoring then. I have enough trouble keeping figures straight in my head...

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 18 Oct 2012, 20:25

How did I not notice that this season had started?!

My alter-ego may as well have missed it too, 6 points from 4 races with 3 car failures is not good....

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Oct 2012, 00:19

Race Review:
The race was mind-numbingly dull. Tom Douglas led from pole but his two-stop strategy was unable to overcome Moreno's one-stopper which enabled Daniel Moreno to take his second win of the season.

Positives:
Daniel Moreno: Moreno rebounded from last week's disappointment with a clinical victory in Monaco. Although a lot of the credit must go to his pit strategy, Moreno's drive was impressive and he was able to keep Douglas behind him late in the race. It wasn't Senna/Mansell 1992 but it was close enough. Moreno now takes the outright lead in the championship from Davies who only managed 5th.

Tom Douglas: Somehow, Douglas hasn't been able to grace the top step of the podium since Brazil last year. However, it is apparent that this won't be the case for long if Ferrari can put it all together for one race.

Andrew Spokes: Solid recovery for Spokes after last week's mechanical problem.

Kazuhiko Takagi: Takagi can't seem to finish anywhere other than fourth as this is his fourth consecutive fourth place finish. Funnily enough, Takagi now lies fourth in the championship just by the virtue of consistency. It is yet to be seen whether he will mount a legitimate title challenge.

Davies, Cannon and Valsattis: The three standouts from the early-season running all drove quite well. No mistakes were made.

Jorg Scrattenheim: Scrattenheim was running in fifth for most of the race and was up to fourth after Kickert retired. Unfortunately, Arrows' poor reliability struck and Scrattenheim was forced into the pits with an electrical problem on Lap 67. He dropped to eighth.

Ben Fleet: Although he retired from the race again, Fleet made up six places at the start and was running in front of the DAMS cars while he was on-track. Stewart's next goal has to be getting a car to the finish.

Negatives:
Pieter Kickert: The curse of the second Williams driver continues unabated.

John Zimmer: He was off the pace of Spokes all weekend. Is he officially washed-up like James Davies claims or is he just on a cold streak?

Stewart: Their reliability must improve.

Leonhard von Gottorp and Miko Fakkinen: Okay, parking your car in the middle of the circuit is not a good way to avoid a collision. Penalties!

Gauthier: Samael Meerwick and Lawrence Tucker have usurped the Volga pairing as the worst driver lineup in the field. Admittedly, the chassis is terrible but the drivers are compounding the problem massively. Tucker had an embarrassing crash at Tabac early on in the race and Meerwick was a lap behind van Dycke's Minardi. Therefore, Gauthier has won Reject of the Race for Monaco.

Penalties:
+1 to Leonhard von Gottorp for parking his car in a bad spot
+1 to Miko Fakkinen for parking his car in an unsafe position

Leaders:
Tom Douglas: 1-28
Daniel Moreno: 29-36
Pieter Kickert: 37-50
Daniel Moreno: 51-

Drivers' Championship
1. Daniel Moreno - 20
2. James Davies - 18
3. Tom Douglas - 16
4. Kazuhiko Takagi - 12
=5 Rory McAllister - 10
=5 Pieter Kickert - 10
=5 Masta Valsattis - 10
=5 Andrew Spokes - 10
9. Damon Cannon - 6
=10 Pablo da Silva - 5
=10 John Zimmer - 5
12. Bernhard Pech - 4
13. Niko Nurminen - 2
=14 Stephano Baroncelli - 1
=14 James Allen - 1

Constructors' Championship
1. Williams-Renault - 30
2. McLaren-Mercedes - 28
3. Ferrari - 28
4. Benetton-Renault - 15
5. Ligier Mugen-Honda - 10
6. Sauber-Petronas - 9
7. Jordan-Peugeot - 6
8. DAMS-Peugeot - 3
9. Arrows-Yamaha - 1

Penalty Standings
1. Samael Meerwick - 4
2. Poppy Whitechapel - 3
3. Leonhard von Gottorp - 3
=4 Jorg Scrattenheim - 2
=4 Lawrence Tucker - 2
=4 John Zimmer - 2
=4 Pieter Kickert - 2
=4 Bernhard Pech - 2
=4 Gio van Dycke - 2
=10 Siergiej Rozvadoskij - 1
=10 Anton Kaliniczenko - 1
=10 Niko Nurminen - 1
=10 Miko Fakkinen - 1

F1RGP2C Predicament Predictions is now OPEN with one new stat category that I made up called "Penalty Picks". Basically, you pick which driver(s) will pick up penalties at the next round. If you get one or more right, you will get however many points they got in the actual race.

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Pole position:
Fastest lap:
First retirement:
Reject of the race:
Golden Papaya:
Penalty Pick(s):
DNQ:

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 21 Oct 2012, 07:53

tristan1117 wrote:Negatives:
John Zimmer: He was off the pace of Spokes all weekend. Is he officially washed-up like James Davies claims or is he just on a cold streak?

It's more that he stopped caring after he won in Australia in 1996 and is now settling down with his new job of annoying James Davies whenever possible :lol:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 21 Oct 2012, 07:57

Goddamnit, what is with these transmission failures recently? Also, a puncture... well, at least Monaco is over.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Oct 2012, 10:10

tristan1117 wrote:John Zimmer: He was off the pace of Spokes all weekend. Is he officially washed-up like James Davies claims or is he just on a cold streak?

James Davies wrote:He's not washed-up, he never was that good in the first place! When your title rival is Dan Moreno and your car is better than his, how can you lose?

Also, damn you Takagi! How many goddamn times did you try to take off my front wing!? Have you been taking lessons on how to be shite and lose your eyes from Megumi? You have mirrors, asshat! Use them!

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Bathplug this, Meerwick, Tucker? You're both sacked. I'll sign Martin McFry and... anyone else who wants the second seat, and is willing to put up with this shitebox that Tyrrell dumped on me.

James Davies wrote:Wait, McFry? Oh, great.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 21 Oct 2012, 10:24

tristan1117 wrote:John Zimmer: He was off the pace of Spokes all weekend. Is he officially washed-up like James Davies claims or is he just on a cold streak?

James Davies wrote:He's not washed-up, he never was that good in the first place! When your title rival is Dan Moreno and your car is better than his, how can you lose?

John Zimmer wrote:That's it. Care for a friendly wager James? If you win the championship this year, I will admit that I'm a washed up old fart and will immediately retire. If you don't, then you say nothing about me or Benetton for 12 months. How does that sound?

Note: I don't plan on actually retiring Zimmer and I'm backing Davies for the championship, so get your "Zimmer's a lying bastard" line ready :lol:

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Oct 2012, 10:34

tristan1117 wrote:John Zimmer: He was off the pace of Spokes all weekend. Is he officially washed-up like James Davies claims or is he just on a cold streak?

James Davies wrote:He's not washed-up, he never was that good in the first place! When your title rival is Dan Moreno and your car is better than his, how can you lose?

John Zimmer wrote:That's it. Care for a friendly wager James? If you win the championship this year, I will admit that I'm a washed up old fart and will immediately retire. If you don't, then you say nothing about me or Benetton for 12 months. How does that sound?

James Davies wrote:You're on. Hope you like retirement homes.

Now he has to win, his reaction is going to be priceless.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 21 Oct 2012, 10:35

James Davies wrote:Also, damn you Takagi! How many goddamn times did you try to take off my front wing!? Have you been taking lessons on how to be shite and lose your eyes from Megumi? You have mirrors, asshat! Use them!

Kazuhiko Takagi wrote:You do realize that this is Monaco, muppet? I have a roadjam with you. So shut up, no-good, narrow-minded, hypocrite racer*.

Andreas Stefano wrote:Somehow, I felt Takagi would be jinxed by next race - he's Japanese, he have finished fourth since the second round, and four is unlucky for the Japanese. He needs to drive a bit harder. And if we had put in one-stop, Tom would have won.

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1997 Spainsh Grand Prix - Predicament Predictions
(Warning: slight bias)
1. Douglas
2. Takagi
3. Zimmer
4. Moreno
5. Spokes
6. Cannon

Pole position: Moreno
Fastest lap: Douglas
First retirement: Fakkinen
Reject of the race: McLaren (none of their cars finished on the points)
Golden Papaya: Davies
Penalty Pick(s): Megumi (Grosjeanitis/Reiko's 1995-96 crash-prone form returns)
DNQ: Volgas

And I miss video race highlights. Meanwhile, Robert Anderson will sign for Gauthier Team Tyrrell. :twisted:

* (pass-phrased from Kendl of GTA San Andreas)

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 21 Oct 2012, 10:38

Is it wrong of me to hope Zimmer and Davies collide at some point during the year? :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Oct 2012, 10:41

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Is it wrong of me to hope Zimmer and Davies collide at some point during the year?

And if that does happen and it turns out to be Zimmer's fault, Don Rennis will be sending the repair bill over to Benetton to sort out :lol:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 21 Oct 2012, 10:50

Prince Walik wrote:I love seeing idiots argue

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 21 Oct 2012, 10:53

Prince Walik wrote:I love seeing idiots argue

Herrmann Mann wrote:Vell, ein idiot. Und zat happensh to be Jamesh Daviesh

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Oct 2012, 11:27

James Davies wrote:Also, damn you Takagi! How many goddamn times did you try to take off my front wing!? Have you been taking lessons on how to be shite and lose your eyes from Megumi? You have mirrors, asshat! Use them!

Kazuhiko Takagi wrote:You do realize that this is Monaco, muppet? I have a roadjam with you. So shut up, no-good, narrow-minded, hypocrite racer*.

James Davies wrote:Roadjam!? What the shite are you even on about? I had a run on you a good dozen times in that race, but you kept slaloming the whole goddamn way! I'm surprised the chief didn't slap you with a penalty, you shite!

Meanwhile, Robert Anderson will sign for Gauthier Team Tyrrell.

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:You have sponsorship, yes? How much?

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Is it wrong of me to hope Zimmer and Davies collide at some point during the year?

Not in the slightest. :lol:

Also, here

1997 Spanish Grand Prix - Predicament Predictions
1. James Davies
2. Rory McAllister
3. Tom Douglas
4. Damon Cannon
5. Pieter Kickert
6. Masta Valsattis

Pole position: Daniel Moreno
Fastest lap: Daniel Moreno
First retirement: Poppy Whitechapel
Reject of the race: Daniel Moreno (Throws an easy win)
Golden Papaya: Pieter Kickert
Penalty Pick(s): Reiko Megumi/Martin McFry
DNQ: One Lola and one Volga

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 21 Oct 2012, 11:41

Hermann Mann's Predictions

1997 Spanish Grand Prix
1. Pieter Kickert
2. Daniel Moreno
3. Tom Douglas
4. Andrew Spokes
5. Rory McAllister
6. Damon Cannon

Pole position: Pieter Kickert
Fastest lap: Daniel Moreno
First retirement: Ben Fleet
Reject of the race: James Davies (Just shite)
Golden Papaya: John Zimmer
Penalty Pick(s): Masta Valsattis, Martin McFry, Reiko Megumi
DNQ: Both Volga

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 21 Oct 2012, 11:54

Rory McAllister wrote:You know, I'm beginning to be seriously angry with the unreliablity my car is showing. It's not like I couldn't leave this team at wish...

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 21 Oct 2012, 12:02

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:You have sponsorship, yes? How much?

Robert Anderson wrote:From British American Tobacco, yes, yes, yes. Courtesy of my trustful manager, Crash Rollock.

Also... [OoC]

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:DNQ: One Lola and one Volga

Which one? Poppy or Max? Anton or Siergiej?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 21 Oct 2012, 12:04

Rory McAllister wrote:You know, I'm beginning to be seriously angry with the unreliablity my car is showing. It's not like I couldn't leave this team at wish...

Herrmann Mann wrote:If you wanted to join Williams, I'm sure I could work something out for you

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Oct 2012, 12:10

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:You have sponsorship, yes? How much?

Robert Anderson wrote:From British American Tobacco, yes, yes, yes. Courtesy of my trustful manager, Crash Rollock.

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Welcome aboard then. Just don't be too rubbish.

FMecha wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:DNQ: One Lola and one Volga

Which one? Poppy or Max? Anton or Siergiej?

Max and Siergiej.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 21 Oct 2012, 12:19

Rory McAllister wrote:You know, I'm beginning to be seriously angry with the unreliablity my car is showing. It's not like I couldn't leave this team at wish...

Herrmann Mann wrote:If you wanted to join Williams, I'm sure I could work something out for you

Rory McAllister wrote:It's something I'd have to consider if the muppet engineers doesn't sort the reliability of my car.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 21 Oct 2012, 13:18

Daniel Moreno wrote:I'm VERY pleased to be back in the lead of the championship though we will have to post more consistent results to keep this lead up.

tristan1117 wrote:Their reliability must improve.

Eddie Stewart wrote:Well, of course!!! And I lay blame on our engine suppliers, Ford. They said they would bring Ben to the podium, but it's only bringing us to the mid-race barbeque!!! They lied to us!!!

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Oct 2012, 18:57

Am I allowed to submit predictions?

Post by **Londoner** » 21 Oct 2012, 19:02

Damon Cannon wrote:Yeah, that were alright, I suppose. But my team mate really needs to pull up his socks and get cracking, because I'm the only one who's scoring at the moment.

Poppy Whitechapel wrote:Thanks for that beautiful image Damon.

Unpopular opinion time. I don't really like the fact that Predicament Predictions seem to be sprouting out of just about every fictional series. It works in real life, but I don't think it does in our universe, and all it does is clog up threads.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 21 Oct 2012, 19:22

Niko Nurminen wrote:Another tyre failure. Seriously, whoever makes these tires is an idiot.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Oct 2012, 20:13

East Londoner wrote:
Damon Cannon wrote:Yeah, that were alright, I suppose. But my team mate really needs to pull up his socks and get cracking, because I'm the only one who's scoring at the moment.

Poppy Whitechapel wrote:Thanks for that beautiful image Damon.

Unpopular opinion time. I don't really like the fact that Predicament Predictions seem to be sprouting out of just about every fictional series. It works in real life, but I don't think it does in our universe, and all it does is clog up threads.

Yeah, can we at least move the predictions to another thread?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 21 Oct 2012, 20:31

Don Rennis wrote:We're working night and day to fix whatever the problem is Rory. Besides, why would you want to go toa Williams when they're already losing Newey and are rumoured to lose their works engine deal with all the talk I've been hearing of Renault pulling out of the sport at the end of the year.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 21 Oct 2012, 21:19

Ligier will sign up Tyrrell's sacked drivers as test-drivers, if they got nowhere to go.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Oct 2012, 22:04

This wrote:Ligier will sign up Tyrrell's sacked drivers as test-drivers, if they got nowhere to go.

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Gauthier! Gauthier! Tyrrell is no more!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 21 Oct 2012, 22:38

Rory McAllister wrote:You know, I'm beginning to be seriously angry with the unreliablity my car is showing. It's not like I couldn't leave this team at wish...

Herrmann Mann wrote:If you wanted to join Williams, I'm sure I could work something out for you

Rory McAllister wrote:It's something I'd have to consider if the muppet engineers doesn't sort the reliability of my car.

Douglas Mann wrote:Williams don't have a brilliant reliability record, y'know...

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Oct 2012, 23:17

This wrote:Ligier will sign up Tyrrell's sacked drivers as test-drivers, if they got nowhere to go.

Well, you're only allowed to pick one. I'll allow it because McFry is currently on Gauthier.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 21 Oct 2012, 23:18

Rory McAllister wrote:You know, I'm beginning to be seriously angry with the unreliablity my car is showing. It's not like I couldn't leave this team at wish...

Herrmann Mann wrote:If you wanted to join Williams, I'm sure I could work something out for you

Rory McAllister wrote:It's something I'd have to consider if the muppet engineers doesn't sort the reliability of my car.

Douglas Mann wrote:Williams don't have a brilliant reliability record, y'know...

Rory McAllister wrote:Ferrari could also be a possibility, but if Don Rennis can assure me the reliability will improve, I stay put.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 22 Oct 2012, 00:15

Phoenix wrote:
Rory McAllister wrote:You know, I'm beginning to be seriously angry with the unreliablity my car is showing. It's not like I couldn't leave this team at wish...
Herrmann Mann wrote:If you wanted to join Williams, I'm sure I could work something out for you
Rory McAllister wrote:It's something I'd have to consider if the muppet engineers doesn't sort the reliability of my car.

Douglas Mann wrote:Williams don't have a brilliant reliability record, y'know...

Rory McAllister wrote:Ferrari could also be a possibility, but if Don Rennis can assure me the reliability will improve, I stay put.

Max von Hegel wrote:I wouldn't be too hasty Rory, you've already won your first race since '94 and you'll have Newey in 1998. I would try to stick around...

Also, qualifying results will be posted on Monday so if you want to submit predictions, please get them in by then.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Oct 2012, 05:14

Don Rennis wrote:Rory my man, we're getting the guys to look into a solution for all the problems. So far, all we can tell is that the failures aren't related in any way, shape or form which I guess is a good thing in that it's not a chronic issue. Besides, why would you want to leave when you've already won a race this year and we've got Newey designing next year's car? Especially to drive for those clowns at Williams which, from what I've heard in the paddock, are about to lose their works engine deal with what I've been hearing about Renault pulling out at the end of the year.

And Jimmy, I love how you've been driving this year but could you please stop getting yourself into trouble with the press all the time? I mean, a competitive spirit is good and all but the last thing I need is to deal with some lawsuit because someone else has taken what you're saying completely out of context.