2012 UAE Grand Prix Discussion Thread

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 04 Nov 2012, 19:32

Forza Kimi! His successful comeback is now 2nd only to Niki Lauda's.

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 04 Nov 2012, 20:15

Really exciting race! Pity about the long Safety Cars, but at least not as bad as the Korean marshalls in terms of speed of recovery of cars.

Kimi's radio calls were absolute classics. He must be a real pain to deal with sometimes for his engineer, but he certainly delivers and must go close to Top 2 on the F1 Rejects end of season rankings, I'd predict. It will be fascinating to watch him next year if Lotus can evolve their car to the next level!

pasta_maldonado wrote:It could be Mario Andretti... that wouldn't be so bad.

I'd be really surprised if it wasn't, considering Mario is an ambassador for the track and was involved in the launch last week.

As for Brazil, I'd predict Emmo - i can't see Piquet doing it and I guess it's too soon for Rubens! haha Although who knows if they'll send someone from left field out like a commentator. i agree with previous comments that Hakkinen would be fantastic!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 04 Nov 2012, 20:27

Yannick wrote:Forza Kimi! His successful comeback is now 2nd only to Niki Lauda's.

Alain Prost was here, Kimi's a loser

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:01

Dan B wrote:
Barbazza wrote:Oh dear, I hadn't thought of that. It was much better when he was off racing (or playing golf or whatever?) and they had Anthony Davidson instead.

Mind you, if they did give Damon a go they'd have to give someone else from the BBC a go too. Who's left, Jake Humphrey?!

I hope for all humankind they don't send Darrell Waltrip up there for the upcoming race in Austin.

I mean I like DW, but his forte is with Nascar and to an extent V8s.

His forte is opening his mouth and being an annoying shitehead on TV.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:29

Cynon wrote:His forte is opening his mouth and being an annoying shitehead on TV.

It runs in the family, clearly.

Dan B · Post by **Dan B** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:38

Cynon wrote:
Dan B wrote:
Barbazza wrote:Oh dear, I hadn't thought of that. It was much better when he was off racing (or playing golf or whatever?) and they had Anthony Davidson instead.

Mind you, if they did give Damon a go they'd have to give someone else from the BBC a go too. Who's left, Jake Humphrey?!

I hope for all humankind they don't send Darrell Waltrip up there for the upcoming race in Austin.

I mean I like DW, but his forte is with Nascar and to an extent V8s.

His forte is opening his mouth and being an annoying shitehead on TV.

Eh, I've seen much worse. There's Jonathan Legard and this guy.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV a few times when Derek Daily was commentating for SpeedVision a few years back. The "WELL WELL WELL" was incredibly annoying.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:47

Derek Daly ... can be both a great and awful commentator at the same time.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:50

Mario Andretti would be a nice host for the podium interviews. Although A.J. Foyt could also be an entertaining choice. Especially if he takes the winner's trophy away from the winner, and pushes him into a bed of tulips. :lol:

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:53

Ferrarist wrote:Mario Andretti would be a nice host for the podium interviews. Although A.J. Foyt could also be an entertaining choice. Especially if he takes the winner's trophy away from the winner, and pushes him into a bed of tulips.

A.J. Foyt tells it like it is, so he'd be GREAT for the interviews... I can imagine Foyt would straight-up ask someone about a very sensitive topic on the podium. Like asking Vettel about flexing wings or Fernando about team orders.

Post by **Ataxia** » 04 Nov 2012, 21:59

Dan B wrote:
Cynon wrote:
Dan B wrote:I hope for all humankind they don't send Darrell Waltrip up there for the upcoming race in Austin.

I mean I like DW, but his forte is with Nascar and to an extent V8s.

His forte is opening his mouth and being an annoying shitehead on TV.

Eh, I've seen much worse. There's Jonathan Legard and this guy.

Oh yeah, and I wanted to throw a shoe at the TV a few times when Derek Daily was commentating for SpeedVision a few years back. The "WELL WELL WELL" was incredibly annoying.

At least it's not as embarrassing as THIS. Luckily for me, I was in Spain during that race.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Nov 2012, 23:00

Dan B wrote:Eh, I've seen much worse. There's Jonathan Legard and this guy.

I had no idea Stephane Ortelli was so old!!

Also, to be fair to Kimi, I think "sh*t" is just part of his standard English vocabulary and he doesn't necessarily use it on 'purpose' if you catch my drift. But Vettel has a much better grasp of the language and did it on purpose. Kimi copycat. For shame. He tries too hard.

AND what is this tyre warmer incident is talking about? There is absolutely no mention of it anywhere on the internet and it was never shown on the F1 coverage I watched...

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 04 Nov 2012, 23:33

my reason for missing the best race of the season:I was having a shite.

Appears that Iceman won,curse of Enoch at it's finest today with incidents befalling Perez,Grosjean and the 8th winner.

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 05 Nov 2012, 06:00

Thoughts:

Once again, Lewis is robbed of a race he was obviously going to win. McLaren has thrown away all hope of 2nd place in the constructors with pisspoor reliability. As much as I don't like it, the move to Mercedes is given traction by this.

Vettel truly the recipient of all the breaks.

Stay classy on the team radio Raikkonen :lol:

but in all seriousness, well done.

Solid drive by Alonso, it's too bad it won't be enough.

Not sure if the chassis change for Di Resta paid off, next race will tell.

Williams need to hold on to Maldonado with all their might. Lotus should punt RoGro and snatch him up.

Great race overall, but would it have been without all the incidents? Probably not.

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 05 Nov 2012, 06:20

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:At least it's not as embarrassing as THIS. Luckily for me, I was in Spain during that race.

And yet Allen's screaming was still probably less embarrassing than Ant Davidson then taking credit a few seconds later for setup work on Friday...

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 05 Nov 2012, 12:31

Just finished watching on the trusted iPlayer and if you'd have told me the two most exciting races this year would be Valencia and Abu Dhabi, I'd have wet myself with laughter. Seeing Raikkonen finally get a win was great, although a little lucky. As for Hamilton, he was on fire all weekend and another retirement from the lead must hurt him.

Alonso did well to grab a second place whilst Vettel was more lucky than skilled in taking 3rd. Those two safety cars really helped with his strategy. Button drive well as did Maldonado. Webber was a bit silly with his moves around the outside of turn 11 but was unlucky when he hit Grosjean later on. Perez has seemed to lose the plot recently whilst Kobayashi has picked up more useful points in his hunt for a race seat for 2013.

Scary accident for Rosberg early on, reminded me of Raikkonen in hungary 2006. Caterham were unlucky to not take 12th place with Kovalainen, but all three backmarker teams got a bucket load of tv time as those from the messy-midfield picked their way through all through the race.

Brilliant race, loads of close racing and a great final few laps.

Ubik · Post by **Ubik** » 05 Nov 2012, 14:12

I'm not the first to suggest it but I hope this outbreak of podium-swearing is a conspiracy by the drivers to get the cringe-inducing podium interviews kicked into the dustbin.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 05 Nov 2012, 15:16

Ubik wrote:I'm not the first to suggest it but I hope this outbreak of podium-swearing is a conspiracy by the drivers to get the cringe-inducing podium interviews kicked into the dustbin.

I thought that as soon as Vettel unleashed his potty-mouth. Kimi may well have been 'just being Kimi', but Seb did it on purpose, I believe, perhaps to wind up Coulthard a bit ... It 's pretty clear the drivers
think the whole thing is a shambles, which is why they just mess about with the champagne, etc, when they have to do it.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 05 Nov 2012, 16:55

Cynon wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:Mario Andretti would be a nice host for the podium interviews. Although A.J. Foyt could also be an entertaining choice. Especially if he takes the winner's trophy away from the winner, and pushes him into a bed of tulips.

A.J. Foyt tells it like it is, so he'd be GREAT for the interviews... I can imagine Foyt would straight-up ask someone about a very sensitive topic on the podium. Like asking Vettel about flexing wings or Fernando about team orders.

Unfortunately, about 98% of the global F1 audience would have no clue who A.J. Foyt is. The name Andretti is at least more or less known among the audience.

But I like A.J. nonetheless. He should just give poor Arie Luyendyk his 1997 True Value 500 trophy back

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takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 05 Nov 2012, 17:30

madmark1974 wrote:
Ubik wrote:I'm not the first to suggest it but I hope this outbreak of podium-swearing is a conspiracy by the drivers to get the cringe-inducing podium interviews kicked into the dustbin.

I thought that as soon as Vettel unleashed his potty-mouth. Kimi may well have been 'just being Kimi', but Seb did it on purpose, I believe, perhaps to wind up Coulthard a bit ... It 's pretty clear the drivers
think the whole thing is a shambles, which is why they just mess about with the champagne, etc, when they have to do it.

Damn, I missed the podium swearing

What was said?

NAM · Post by **NAM** » 05 Nov 2012, 17:38

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
madmark1974 wrote:
Ubik wrote:I'm not the first to suggest it but I hope this outbreak of podium-swearing is a conspiracy by the drivers to get the cringe-inducing podium interviews kicked into the dustbin.

I thought that as soon as Vettel unleashed his potty-mouth. Kimi may well have been 'just being Kimi', but Seb did it on purpose, I believe, perhaps to wind up Coulthard a bit ... It 's pretty clear the drivers
think the whole thing is a shambles, which is why they just mess about with the champagne, etc, when they have to do it.

Damn, I missed the podium swearing What was said?

Check it out before they take it off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buG3UP-1wIc

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 05 Nov 2012, 20:41

NAM wrote:Check it out before they take it off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buG3UP-1wIc

As David Croft would say, thanks ever so much.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 05 Nov 2012, 20:47

Ed24 wrote:As for Brazil, I'd predict Emmo - i can't see Piquet doing it and I guess it's too soon for Rubens! haha Although who knows if they'll send someone from left field...

Pedro Diniz!!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 05 Nov 2012, 22:04

For Brazil, I expect something stupid like Luciano Burti's bad attempt at English (he is paired with Galvao Bueno on Globo for F1 coverage).

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 05 Nov 2012, 22:36

Ed24 wrote:
NAM wrote:Check it out before they take it off: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buG3UP-1wIc

As David Croft would say, thanks ever so much.

Kimi is Kimi. Nobody would have him any other way. As for vettel's swearing, you know he knew what he was saying.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 05 Nov 2012, 22:38

Barbazza wrote:
Ed24 wrote:As for Brazil, I'd predict Emmo - i can't see Piquet doing it and I guess it's too soon for Rubens! haha Although who knows if they'll send someone from left field...

Pedro Diniz!!

How about Ayrton Senna's sister? She's handed out trophies before and knows F1 pretty well. Although it'll be a sentimental choice.

Post by **Ataxia** » 05 Nov 2012, 22:41

AdrianSutil wrote:
Barbazza wrote:
Ed24 wrote:As for Brazil, I'd predict Emmo - i can't see Piquet doing it and I guess it's too soon for Rubens! haha Although who knows if they'll send someone from left field...

Pedro Diniz!!

How about Ayrton Senna's sister? She's handed out trophies before and knows F1 pretty well. Although it'll be a sentimental choice.

What, Bruno's mum? That would be a bit weird...

Post by **Nuppiz** » 05 Nov 2012, 22:42

AdrianSutil wrote:
Barbazza wrote:
Ed24 wrote:As for Brazil, I'd predict Emmo - i can't see Piquet doing it and I guess it's too soon for Rubens! haha Although who knows if they'll send someone from left field...

Pedro Diniz!!

How about Ayrton Senna's sister? She's handed out trophies before and knows F1 pretty well. Although it'll be a sentimental choice.

Bah, of course it must be the one and only, the distinguished... RICARDO ROSSET!

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 05 Nov 2012, 23:14

Nuppiz wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:
Barbazza wrote:Pedro Diniz!!

How about Ayrton Senna's sister? She's handed out trophies before and knows F1 pretty well. Although it'll be a sentimental choice.

Bah, of course it must be the one and only, the distinguished... MARIO HABERFELD!

I fixed that for you, free of charge

Post by **Londoner** » 05 Nov 2012, 23:28

Big Mo Gugelmin anyone?

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 05 Nov 2012, 23:49

No,you all got it wrong cause it must be....Lucas di Grassi!

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 05 Nov 2012, 23:56

Ricardo Zonta?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 06 Nov 2012, 00:16

Might as wel go for Bruno Senna, he won't end up on the podium by driving...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 06 Nov 2012, 00:43

Rubens Barrichello? :twisted:

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 06 Nov 2012, 03:42

How about Roberto Moreno?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 06 Nov 2012, 08:39

Chico Serra anyone? Raul Boesel?

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 06 Nov 2012, 08:42

Shizuka wrote:Chico Serra anyone? Raul Boesel?

Both together :lol:

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 06 Nov 2012, 09:45

Even better, tell Coulthard he can do it again, then let Brazil's Enrique Bernoldi get there first!

razta · Post by **razta** » 06 Nov 2012, 14:04

That schumi pass on Jev

Taken by.. your's truly :-D

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 06 Nov 2012, 22:26

Considering his race came to an abrupt and crashy end, Mark Webber looked pretty damn pleased with the isotonic drink his race engineer gave him:

solarcold · Post by **solarcold** » 07 Nov 2012, 10:13