The National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing thread

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 26 Oct 2012, 19:29

Dodge is leaving and they aren't looking back.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 26 Oct 2012, 19:36

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 26 Oct 2012, 20:51

nome66 wrote:eh, WHAT!? they need a street circuit on the back roads of Dawsonville, Georgia. the whole theme of "Back to our roots" deal.
ALSO: when are Chevy going to reveal their new nascar design? i recall someone saying before the end of the season, but so far all we have is Tony Stewart's new livery on the current template. it would be funny if they found a loophole in the new "win on sunday, buy on monday" rules and came up with another "Aerocoupe" body like back in the 80's. that thing in buick and chevy form was unstoppable.

one last thing.... any word on Dodge? or are they still leaving?

TThe new chevy is that black and white monstrosity in the testing pictures. Its going to be the "Chevy SS" which will be a rebadged Holden (because you know that crappy GTO remake sold so well :roll:

). No details on its looks as GM hasn't revealed what the actual Holden will look like yet. As for Dodge they annouced a few months back they were done after both RPM and Furniture Row spurned them. Conpiracy theorists (of which NASCAR seems to have many more than any other sport) are howling that this is the "only way" BK is leading the championship and that "its rigged" that he will win to convince Dodge to stay, or least send them out on top. Because, clearly that makes sense......

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 27 Oct 2012, 00:18

i knew the chevy was going to start next season as it's seen in tests, but the Aerocoupe didn't rear it's head until mid '85 season or so, might get some production based nascar upgrades to use on the race design

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 27 Oct 2012, 17:58

nome66 wrote:i knew the chevy was going to start next season as it's seen in tests, but the Aerocoupe didn't rear it's head until mid '85 season or so, might get some production based nascar upgrades to use on the race design

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/2014-c ... rings-news

Take those with a grain of salt, but basically its going to be a V8 Malibu. Yawn.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 27 Oct 2012, 18:22

Damn i thought it was going to be based loosely on the PPV/Caprice/Commodore

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 27 Oct 2012, 21:08

It'll be based on the new VF Commodore that Holden are desperately trying to keep hidden until February but which Chevy are trying to ruin :lol:

But knowing what the Americans do to Aussie cars (I still can't believe Pontiac got away with ruining the front end of the Monaro and the VE), it'll be ridiculously ugly.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 28 Oct 2012, 02:21

i think the Caprice is pretty classy i guess. i think the new SS/v8 malibu is FUGLY.
OZ wants to wait til febusary because they know that's when Daytona winter testing/500 is

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 28 Oct 2012, 02:36

nome66 wrote:OZ wants to wait til febusary because they know that's when Daytona winter testing/500 is

Which would be one of the daftest decisions I've ever seen considering that the V8 COTF is already being tested by both Ford and Holden.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 28 Oct 2012, 03:48

yes, the chassis and other trivial bits like suspension, but i'm sure the actual body design of the car will change.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 28 Oct 2012, 07:17

Wizzie wrote:
nome66 wrote:OZ wants to wait til febusary because they know that's when Daytona winter testing/500 is

Which would be one of the daftest decisions I've ever seen considering that the V8 COTF is already being tested by both Ford and Holden.

Not at all. Look at SBR, they recently tested their first COTF. What was it? An Falcon, not an E63. It's only aero testing that VF panels are needed for, which is conducted by V8 Supercars, not the teams.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 28 Oct 2012, 07:32

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
nome66 wrote:OZ wants to wait til febusary because they know that's when Daytona winter testing/500 is

Which would be one of the daftest decisions I've ever seen considering that the V8 COTF is already being tested by both Ford and Holden.

Not at all. Look at SBR, they recently tested their first COTF. What was it? An Falcon, not an E63. It's only aero testing that VF panels are needed for, which is conducted by V8 Supercars, not the teams.

Fair enough. And it's a Falcon by the way. No wonder you failed English four years in a row.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 28 Oct 2012, 07:47

Wizzie wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Which would be one of the daftest decisions I've ever seen considering that the V8 COTF is already being tested by both Ford and Holden.

Not at all. Look at SBR, they recently tested their first COTF. What was it? An Falcon, not an E63. It's only aero testing that VF panels are needed for, which is conducted by V8 Supercars, not the teams.

Fair enough. And it's a Falcon by the way. No wonder you failed English four years in a row.

I meant to go "an FG Falcon", but failed.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 28 Oct 2012, 07:56

Wizzie wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Which would be one of the daftest decisions I've ever seen considering that the V8 COTF is already being tested by both Ford and Holden.

Not at all. Look at SBR, they recently tested their first COTF. What was it? An Falcon, not an E63. It's only aero testing that VF panels are needed for, which is conducted by V8 Supercars, not the teams.

Fair enough. And it's a Falcon by the way. No wonder you failed English four years in a row.

Thanks for making me look slightly more intelligent than I actually am :lol:

Grovey · Post by **Grovey** » 28 Oct 2012, 08:08

eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Not at all. Look at SBR, they recently tested their first COTF. What was it? An Falcon, not an E63. It's only aero testing that VF panels are needed for, which is conducted by V8 Supercars, not the teams.

Fair enough. And it's a Falcon by the way. No wonder you failed English four years in a row.

Thanks for making me look slightly more intelligent than I actually am

Nope, You are still as dumb as a bag of sticks. When was the last time you actually did well in a test :lol:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 28 Oct 2012, 08:12

Grovey wrote:
eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:
Fair enough. And it's a Falcon by the way. No wonder you failed English four years in a row.

Thanks for making me look slightly more intelligent than I actually am

Nope, You are still as dumb as a bag of sticks. When was the last time you actually did well in a test

You can talk, considering that you managed to fail the easiest maths test since year 7 :lol:

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 29 Oct 2012, 05:29

What did 5 time 5 time 5 time 5 time 5 time do this time guys? I couldn't find enough care to watch after the mediocre F1 race.

Rykia · Post by **Rykia** » 30 Oct 2012, 19:44

RealRacingRoots wrote:What did 5 time 5 time 5 time 5 time 5 time do this time guys? I couldn't find enough care to watch after the mediocre F1 race.

Won and took the points lead by two over Kez. I honestly think Johnson will have it, unless they have a rare engine failure or Kez and Paul Wolfe pull some more magic outta their hats.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:09

I have a question for somebody who knows a lot about NASCAR regulations. If a new manufacturer were to enter NASCAR, would they have to enter all three major series (Cup, Nationwide, and Trucks)? Or can you, for example, enter just the Cup?

Vepe · Post by **Vepe** » 04 Nov 2012, 18:29

Waris wrote:I have a question for somebody who knows a lot about NASCAR regulations. If a new manufacturer were to enter NASCAR, would they have to enter all three major series (Cup, Nationwide, and Trucks)? Or can you, for example, enter just the Cup?

I'm not an expert, but Toyota entered Trucks first in 2005 (?) before moving up the ladder.

simonracer · Post by **simonracer** » 05 Nov 2012, 08:18

Vepe wrote:
Waris wrote:I have a question for somebody who knows a lot about NASCAR regulations. If a new manufacturer were to enter NASCAR, would they have to enter all three major series (Cup, Nationwide, and Trucks)? Or can you, for example, enter just the Cup?

I'm not an expert, but Toyota entered Trucks first in 2005 (?) before moving up the ladder.

I think it may have been earlier, maybe 2003 or so. I think you can enter Cup and Nationwide? only, considering Dodge left Trucks officially a year or two back, and it could be the same for Ford. Most of the trucks these days are Chevrolets and Toyota. But I really don't know for sure. And NASCAR doesn't publish its rulebook, so it's very difficult for the average fan to know every single rule, though I could be wrong.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 11 Nov 2012, 23:10

That moment when good (not clean) racing between Clint Boyer and Jeff Gordon implodes.

And when Jimmie Johnson crashes.

GO KEZ!

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 12 Nov 2012, 00:46

What the frick happened between the crew chiefs of Clint Bowyer and Jeff Gordon? Weird things happen in the rare times I watch NASCAR...

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 12 Nov 2012, 00:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q1PYYlUArU

Saying how the final 5 laps of the race turned out was unnecessary would be the understatement of the decade in Nascar. So much stupid, in terms of the drivers and the Nascar Officials. A lot of people will need to look themselves in the mirror before they go to Homestead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDfO9QNLICg

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 12 Nov 2012, 01:05

Waris wrote:I have a question for somebody who knows a lot about NASCAR regulations. If a new manufacturer were to enter NASCAR, would they have to enter all three major series (Cup, Nationwide, and Trucks)? Or can you, for example, enter just the Cup?

They also have to have a plant in the United States, which actually turned someone (I think Volvo) away.

Also, we saw the Jeff Gordon of 1997 again. What a whiny sack of shite... Brian Barnhart and Randy Bernard must have been in race control, because that last stretch pileup was the stupidest thing I've EVER seen.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 12 Nov 2012, 01:07

woo go kez

macherone · Post by **macherone** » 12 Nov 2012, 01:25

Thank God something happened to Johnson. That Brad K title will be the best possible way to say goodbye to Dodge.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 12 Nov 2012, 03:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 5ThWJXm4U#!

BK telling it like it is.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 12 Nov 2012, 04:12

Wow. And fans wonder why people don't take NASCAR very seriously. The entire field is chock full of egomaniacal whiners who wreck and fight each other to preserve their enormous egos. Good on Keselowski for finally pointing out the ridiculousness of the situation and the double-standard that he and others are held to (although he could have shaved off a few f-bombs). What the hell was everyone thinking?

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 12 Nov 2012, 04:17

technically he's right because NASCAR does market names more than anything else.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 13 Nov 2012, 16:32

That was a fun race to watch hammered at my batchelor party, let me tell you! First off, NASCAR screwed up by not parking Jeffy for new weekend. They parked Kyle last year, and the similarities are there. Kyle wrecked Hornaday last year when he was out of the hunt, ending Ron-Ron's title bid. Jeffy ended Boywers on Sunday. Bowyer did nothing wrong here IMO (although I'm biased, I've sprinted down the pits after people myself, and I one reason I'm not welcome at Island Dragway anymore :lol:

) but I find it funny how on NASCAR boards many people are defending Gordon. The best line I heard was "Gordon was blackflgged and clearly pitting, why would Clint try to pass a pitting car on the outside?" Nearly all these Gordon defenders then slam Toyota in there post, so obvious troll is obvious. I love irony though, these people are the ones ten years ago bashing Gordon as "that California pretty boy driving them funny open-wheeled forgien cars!"

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 14 Nov 2012, 09:40

Wallio wrote: these people are the ones ten years ago bashing Gordon as "that California pretty boy driving them funny open-wheeled forgien cars!"

Isn't that more like twenty years ago?

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 17 Nov 2012, 14:21

Brad qualified 3rd and Jimmie 10th.
It's gonna be a great finish to the season.

Have a look at 3:49 here:
http://youtu.be/nOk2cd-q5Yc
BK uncensored.

And Spence talks about Nascar's inconsistent decisions:
http://www.nascar.com/video/speed/race- ... ostPopular

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 17 Nov 2012, 15:05

Jocke1 wrote:
Wallio wrote: these people are the ones ten years ago bashing Gordon as "that California pretty boy driving them funny open-wheeled forgien cars!"

Isn't that more like twenty years ago?

It was. Dear God I'm getting old.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 17 Nov 2012, 21:08

Wallio wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:
Wallio wrote: these people are the ones ten years ago bashing Gordon as "that California pretty boy driving them funny open-wheeled forgien cars!"

Isn't that more like twenty years ago?

It was. Dear God I'm getting old.

You and me both, buddy.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 18 Nov 2012, 22:08

Halfway through the race now, and it can go either way. Is Jimmie actually going to pull this off?

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 18 Nov 2012, 22:17

hope not

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 18 Nov 2012, 22:21

nome66 wrote:hope not

He's said he wants 8, so...he is on a mission.
But BK winning would be better.

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 18 Nov 2012, 22:51

IT'S ALL OVER JIMMIE'S BEHIND PIT WALL CONGRATULATIONS KEZLOWSKI.

please someone, sign dodge for next season. it could be the slowest damn team on the grid, just so long as they show up to the daytona 500 i'll be happy.
i'm not a penske fan, nor a hendrick fan, i just want to watch jimmie and chevy squirm

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 18 Nov 2012, 22:54

nome66 wrote:IT'S ALL OVER JIMMIE'S BEHIND PIT WALL CONGRATULATIONS KEZLOWSKI.

please someone, sign dodge for next season. it could be the slowest damn team on the grid, just so long as they show up to the daytona 500 i'll be happy.
i'm not a penske fan, nor a hendrick fan, i just want to watch jimmie and chevy squirm

Drinks are on the house tonight, boys!

Kez will be Champion, and I get to make Booker T jokes in this thread for another year!