BLN's 1986 Management Series - Notice to all involved (Pg 6)

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Nov 2012, 01:53

As Flaschenpost's series looks to have gone the way of the sabre-tooth tiger, here's a(nother) management series. This will all be simulated on GP2.

Here is the list of teams that can be selected, I'll post budgets tomorrow so you can start to 'declare interest' in drivers and engines when we've filled the slots.

McLaren (TAG) - BlindCaveSalamander
#1 Alain Prost
#2 Martin Brundle
Money: £7.4M

Tyrrell (Honda) - Shadaza
#3 Ayrton Senna
#4 Teo Fabi
Money: £1.3M

Williams (Ford Cosworth) - eurobrun
#5 Rene Arnoux
#6 Jonathan Palmer
Money: £12.225M

Brabham (Renault)- FMecha
#7 Riccardo Patrese
#8 Patrick Tambay
Money: £2.75M

Lotus (Renault) - Aerond
#11 Nigel Mansell
#12 Derek Warwick
Money: £5.95M

Zakspeed (BMW) - Ferrarist
#14 Marc Surer
#29 Volker Weidler
Money: £2.9M

Lola (Honda) - pasta_maldonado
#15 Stefan Johansson
#16 Piercarlo Ghinzani
Money: £2.25M

Arrows (BMW) - tristan1117
#17 Thierry Boutsen
#18 Keke Rosberg
Money: £2.9M

Benetton - Grovey
#19 Alex Caffi
#20 Philippe Alliot
Money: £13.55M

Osella (Alfa Romeo)- pi314159
#21 Roberto Moreno
#22 Emanuele Pirro
Money: £0.45M

Minardi (BMW)- kostas22
#23 Alessandro Nannini
#24 Andrea de Cesaris
Money: £3.725M

Ligier (Ferrari) - WaffleCat
#25 Gerhard Berger
#26 Jacques Laffite
Money: £1.75M

Ferrari (Ferrari) - JeremyMcClean
#27 Michele Alboreto
#28 Nelson Piquet
Money: £8.25M

AGS (Renault)- pycku
#30 Ivan Capelli
#31 Satoru Nakajima
Money: £0.75M

Upgrade System:

You can focus on two aspects, speed or reliability.

You can purchase an upgrade straight off the bat, with small (£100,000), medium (£225,000) or large upgrades (£350,000) possible. However, as these are untested means then there's a percentage of them not working out (20%, 25% and 30% respectively for each size). So these are definitely a risk but are cheaper than the other way.

If you have a bit more money to spend, then you can attend a test day (there will be 4 throughout the season) which will cost you £500,000. Again, you choose prior to the test which ONE aspect you'd like to focus on, and if the test is successful it will provide you with the same performance increase a large upgrade would. Again, there's a percentage of it not working out (15%) but it's much smaller than just buying an upgrade.

I'll state well in advance when there is a test day and each team that attends must state the aspect they will work on.

If you're attending a test day, you can't purchase an upgrade during the gap between races that the test day is situated. If you are not attending or there is no test day, the maximum you may buy is expressed in the following combinations:

- Two small upgrades
- One medium and one small upgrade
- One large upgrade

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Nov 2012, 01:56

Eh, I'll take McLaren as usual.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 18 Nov 2012, 02:48

Williams please

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 18 Nov 2012, 02:56

Minardi for me. Let's see if I can do a BMS Scuderia Italia in this series and drag the minnow team up to dizzying heights

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 18 Nov 2012, 03:00

Might as well give one of these a shot.

I will take Tyrell.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 18 Nov 2012, 03:01

Ferrari! I must continue tradition! (Sort of)

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 18 Nov 2012, 03:22

I will take Arrows, as per usual.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 18 Nov 2012, 03:56

I will take Brabham.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 18 Nov 2012, 04:00

i'll take Lotus

Grovey · Post by **Grovey** » 18 Nov 2012, 04:07

I plan to lead Benetton into an era of success

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 18 Nov 2012, 04:29

Ligier for me kthx.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 18 Nov 2012, 06:35

Osella or AGS, thats a tough decision. I think I take Osella.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 18 Nov 2012, 08:36

Zakspeed hasn't been taken yet, right? If so, I'll lead my fellow Germans to glory. :mrgreen:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 Nov 2012, 09:28

I'll take Haas-Lola, maybe with competent (hopefully) management the project won't be a disaster!

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 18 Nov 2012, 13:38

i'd like to take AGS

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 18 Nov 2012, 13:51

Since all spots are full for 86 :cry:

, I'll wait for 87 with Leyton House March

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Nov 2012, 14:38

Budgets are as follows:

McLaren - £20M
Tyrrell - £10M
Williams - £18M
Brabham - £11M
Lotus - £16M
Zakspeed - £6M
Haas Lola - £7M
Arrows - £9M
Benetton - £15M
Osella - £6M
Minardi - £7M
Ligier - £10M
Ferrari - £20M
AGS - £6M

Engines (costs per TEAM, not per CAR)
TAG (McLaren first choice) - £4M (McLaren) (all taken)
Renault (Max 3 teams) - £3.5M (AGS, Brabham, Lotus) (all taken)
Honda (Max 2 teams) - £3M (Lola, Tyrrell) (all taken)
BMW (Max 3 teams) - £2.5M (Zakspeed, Arrows, Minardi) (all taken)
Hart (Unlimited)- £1.5M
Ford Cosworth (Unlimited) - £2M (Williams)
Alfa Romeo - (Max 2 teams) - £1.75M (Osella)
Motori Moderni - (Unlimited) - £1M
Ferrari - (Ferrari, and other team) - £4M (Ferrari, Ligier) (all taken)

You may also declare drivers that you're interested in. I'll quote prices and then you're able to choose if you accept the terms. If you're lucky, you might even stumble into a paydriver or two

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 18 Nov 2012, 14:47

Osella are interested in Roberto Moreno, Emanuele Pirro and Piercarlo Ghinzani and would like to ask how much they will cost us. And Osella would like to keep the Alfa Romeo engines. (Are the engine costs for the full team or per car?)

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 18 Nov 2012, 14:52

AGS are interested in signing some of these drivers: Ivan Capelli, Michele Alboreto, Derek Warwick, Stefan Johanson and Alessandro Nannini. Also - are these engine prices per car or per team? And if we run 1 car - will we save some money?

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 18 Nov 2012, 14:59

Tyrrell are interested in: Ayrton Senna, Elio de Angelis, Teo Fabi, Riccardo Patrese, Martin Brundle, Christian Danner, Alex Caffi, Johnathon Palmer.
(Basically I am asking for prices)

A rather sensitive question here but, what of de Angelis, will he be available for the whole season?

Depending on driver costs, and if engines are per car. Tyrrell are currently in negotiations with BMW, Honda and Renault.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:02

Ops, I just forgot - we are also interested in Andrea de Cesaris (and hoping his Marlboro sponsorship will be enough to survive

)

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:13

pycku wrote:AGS are interested in signing some of these drivers: Ivan Capelli, Michele Alboreto, Derek Warwick, Stefan Johanson and Alessandro Nannini. Also - are these engine prices per car or per team? And if we run 1 car - will we save some money?

Engine costs are per team. Ideally, I'd like encourage two-car teams.

Capelli and Nannini would be interested, they'd cost £500k each. Johansson would cost £750k but could be tempted elsewhere. Alboreto and Warwick aren't interested in AGS currently, but for reference would cost £2M and £1.5M respectively.

De Cesaris would bring any team £1M, but Marlboro would prefer him further up the grid for greater exposure.

Shadaza wrote:Tyrrell are interested in: Ayrton Senna, Elio de Angelis, Teo Fabi, Riccardo Patrese, Martin Brundle, Christian Danner, Alex Caffi, Johnathon Palmer.
(Basically I am asking for prices)

A rather sensitive question here but, what of de Angelis, will he be available for the whole season?

Depending on driver costs, and if engines are per car. Tyrrell are currently in negotiations with BMW, Honda and Renault.

I wasn't going to include de Angelis (for obvious reasons), but here are prices for the others:

Senna - £4M
Fabi - £750k
Patrese - £2M
Brundle - £1.5M
Danner - £500k
Caffi - £600k
Palmer - £750k

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:14

Lola would like to open negotiations with Honda for a supply fo engines, and we are interested in Stefan Johansson, Piercarlo Ghinzani, Martin Brundle, Alessandro Nannini and Thierry Boutsen

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:16

McLaren will have TAG engines. As for drivers, we are interested in: Alain Prost, Elio de Angelis, Gerhard Berger, Stefan Johansson, Jacques Laffite, and Martin Brundle.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:17

Arrows are interested in Martin Brundle, Thierry Boutsen, Allen Berg and Huub Rothengatter. We are also trying to make a deal with BMW for engines.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:19

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
pycku wrote:AGS are interested in signing some of these drivers: Ivan Capelli, Michele Alboreto, Derek Warwick, Stefan Johanson and Alessandro Nannini. Also - are these engine prices per car or per team? And if we run 1 car - will we save some money?

Engine costs are per team. Ideally, I'd like encourage two-car teams.

Capelli and Nannini would be interested, they'd cost £500k each. Johansson would cost £750k but could be tempted elsewhere. Alboreto and Warwick aren't interested in AGS currently, but for reference would cost £2M and £1.5M respectively.

De Cesaris would bring any team £1M, but Marlboro would prefer him further up the grid for greater exposure.

Shadaza wrote:Tyrrell are interested in: Ayrton Senna, Elio de Angelis, Teo Fabi, Riccardo Patrese, Martin Brundle, Christian Danner, Alex Caffi, Johnathon Palmer.
(Basically I am asking for prices)

A rather sensitive question here but, what of de Angelis, will he be available for the whole season?

Depending on driver costs, and if engines are per car. Tyrrell are currently in negotiations with BMW, Honda and Renault.

I wasn't going to include de Angelis (for obvious reasons), but here are prices for the others:

Senna - £4M
Fabi - £750k
Patrese - £2M
Brundle - £1.5M
Danner - £500k
Caffi - £600k
Palmer - £750k

What about Pirro, Moreno and Ghinzani

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:22

Tyrrell will sign Honda engines along with Ayrton Senna and Teo Fabi

This should leave me with 2.25 Million.

Do we need test drivers?

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:24

Lotus first choice of engines is Honda,

as for drivers we would like to sign Ayrton Senna and Derek Warwick.

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:27

pasta_maldonado wrote:Lola would like to open negotiations with Honda for a supply fo engines, and we are interested in Stefan Johansson, Piercarlo Ghinzani, Martin Brundle, Alessandro Nannini and Thierry Boutsen

Ghinzani has £250k of sponsorship to bring prospective teams.

Boutsen would cost £1.5M but he's holding out for a seat more in the midfield.

Prices for the others have already been suggested

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:McLaren will have TAG engines. As for drivers, we are interested in: Alain Prost, Elio de Angelis, Gerhard Berger, Stefan Johansson, Jacques Laffite, and Martin Brundle.

Prost - £5M
Berger - £3M
Johansson - £750K
Laffite - £900K (he's getting on a bit though...)
Brundle - £1.5M

Shadaza wrote:Tyrrell will sign Honda engines along with Ayrton Senna and Teo Fabi

This should leave me with 2.25 Million.

Confirmed.

pi314159 wrote:What about Pirro, Moreno and Ghinzani

Pirro - £800K
Moreno - £750K
Ghinzani would bring you £250k.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:28

Lola will sign Honda engines, Ghinzani, and we will offer Boutsen £2M

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:29

OK, Osella take Moreno and Pirro.

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:30

Aerond wrote:Lotus first choice of engines is Honda,

as for drivers we would like to sign Ayrton Senna and Derek Warwick.

Senna has chosen to go to Tyrrell, and Honda are at Lola. There are still some nice Renaults or BMWs out there...

Warwick will cost you £1.5M.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:33

McLaren will sign Alain Prost and Martin Brundle.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:36

Arrows will sign Thierry Boutsen, if he is sufficiently interested.

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:38

pasta_maldonado wrote:Lola will sign Honda engines, Ghinzani, and we will offer Boutsen £2M

Boutsen's more tempted by the Arrows offer, as he feels he'll have a greater chance of honours there. However, he wonders if Lola would consider a tiny increase in their offer.

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:47

tristan1117 wrote:Arrows are interested in Martin Brundle, Thierry Boutsen, Allen Berg and Huub Rothengatter. We are also trying to make a deal with BMW for engines.

Berg would cost £500k, and Rothengatter would cost £250k.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:50

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Lola will sign Honda engines, Ghinzani, and we will offer Boutsen £2M

Boutsen's more tempted by the Arrows offer, as he feels he'll have a greater chance of honours there. However, he wonders if Lola would consider a tiny increase in their offer.

Botusen can go to Arrows, we will sign Johansson for £845,000. Have Ghinzani and Honda accepted our offers?

Post by **Ataxia** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:52

pasta_maldonado wrote:
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Lola will sign Honda engines, Ghinzani, and we will offer Boutsen £2M

Boutsen's more tempted by the Arrows offer, as he feels he'll have a greater chance of honours there. However, he wonders if Lola would consider a tiny increase in their offer.

Botusen can go to Arrows, we will sign Johansson for £845,000. Have Ghinzani and Honda accepted our offers?

Yes, that's all sorted then.

I'm updating the first page now with all the things...

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:53

Zakspeed is interested in Volker Weidler, Mike Thackwell and Marc Surer. We'd also like to take BMW engines, if they're available.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 18 Nov 2012, 15:54

I have created a wiki page: http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/1 ... a_1_Season