rFAF1 1980: SEASON OVER

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 30 Nov 2012, 18:53

The Lukas wrote:Ensign will attempt to take a medium engine reliability upgrade

No upgrades are allowed I'm afraid until after the Brazilian Grand Prix! The interval is every 3 races...

And the next race, South African Grand Prix, will start at around 8:00pm GMT today, after the Prost GP race has finished! The chatroom may be open before then so check this thread for details!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 30 Nov 2012, 20:06

Chat room now open! http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/ room = #1980

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 30 Nov 2012, 20:56

pasta_maldonado wrote:Chat room now open! http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/ room = #1980

Race cancelled due to a glitch with the track

Cars were unrealistically spinning into the barrier due to a funny kerb. PI'll try and fit the race in on Sunday on a version of Kyalami that actually works! :lol:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 06 Dec 2012, 21:59

The race will take place tomorrow at 7:00pm GMT as usual

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 06 Dec 2012, 22:03

pasta_maldonado wrote:The race will take place tomorrow at 7:00pm GMT as usual

Does the track work this time?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 06 Dec 2012, 22:04

JeremyMcClean wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:The race will take place tomorrow at 7:00pm GMT as usual

Does the track work this time?

Yes

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 07 Dec 2012, 18:46

Chat room now open!http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/

Room = #1980

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 08 Dec 2012, 16:38

1980 South African Grand Prix - Kyalami, 61 laps

Well, I'll be adopting the Positives/Negatives style of reviews for the rest of the year...

Positives

Harvey Jones - A decent qualifying effort saw him line up 6th on the grid, 7 tenths off pole, but even so the win suprised everybody. Well, me and Nuppiz, who spectacularly predicted that Nurmester would qualify roughly half asecond of the grid (0.421 seconds to be precise), and also predicted a Harvey Jones win. Still, not that we should be suprised - Harvey Jones of course took his first victory in the attrition hit 1979 European Grand Prix, a great drive around the Brands circuit that was a shining light in between a mountain of retirements. Anyway, back to this race, Harvey worked his way up to 3rd at the start, and when the leading Scheckter and McAllister encountered the slow Prost, Depault and Keegan at the back, remained glued to their gearboxes. Harvey wouldn't get by McAllister till they came to lap Villeneuve, and an overdefensive Emerson Fittipaldi allowed Jones to slip past Scheckter. With 10 to go, he had a 3.1 second lead...which he improved to 4.5 seconds over the most powerful car on the grid.Masterclass.

Williams - Callum McAllister took pole, the 8th of a two year career, with Scheckter behind Laffite in 3rd. Good qualifying has become expected of the Williams team, but some races have saw them slip back in the race. Actually, starting 1st and 3rd is a dramatic improvement over last year's effort which saw both drivers wallowing on the midfield. McAllister and Scheckter quickly went 1-2 in the first 5 laps, swapped positions behind the slow Alfa of Prost in last position on lap 15, and were 1-2 before Jones passed McAllister and finally Scheckter. The Honda engines made the finish, both of them actually, for the first time since Honda's entry into the sport which is an acheivement in itself. McAllister dropped back slightly in the last 10 laps, allowing both Brabhams through after a 'burn from the stern' approach, but brought the car home in 5th to remain in the lead of the driver's championship.

McLaren - Last time out, the British team qualified several seconds off the pace, and just scraped into the points due to attrition. This weekend saw a marked improvement for the team, with Gulliame Gauthier qualifying 7th, less than a second off of the pole time, with Daly 10th. Gauthier's and Daly's impressive pace continued in the race however, staying ahead of the previously faster Audis, Merzarios and Ferraris. A long battle with Bellof's faster Shadow defined the race, but high finishing rates among the leading pack denied McLaren the chance of points. The only question mark still hanging over the team by the chequered flag is wheter or not the team will be able to maintain the pace.

Negatives

Beppe Gabbiani - The Italian pay driver looked like he was going to impress this weekend, before a show of complete stupdity earnt him a 1 race ban and Reject of the Race. A decent qualifying saw him qualify a whole second faster than his team mate, and he was up to 13th position on lap 2 before he suffered a gearbox issue that saw him Hans-Joachimed, err sorry, stuck in 3rd gear. Now any other driver would pull into the pits and retire, but Beppe struggled on for a further 3 laps. He then proceeded to hold up Callum McAllister and Jody Scheckter, who were running 1-2, holding up Jody enough to allow McAllister to have a 5 second lead. The blag flag was shown to him on lap 7, and for 3 laps he did not stop, earning him disqualification from the event and a one race ban that comes free with all DSQs. Oh, and to make things worse for Restov, de Angelis retired with brake failure on lap 5. Boo, and if you will, hiss.

Jean-Pierre Jabouille - Jean-Pierre could only manage 16th on the grid while team-mate Carlos lined up 5th, and struggled to move past slower cars. While battling with the two Audis and Brian Henton in the midfield on lap 14, he managed to pass Henton, who was behind the Audis, into turn 1, but put the power down too early and span into the wall, ending his race.

Audi- The pace was decent this weekend, like last- battling with the Merzarios and Henton's Shadow was the order of the day. But, engine failures on both cars within a lap of each other will worry the team, as the German marque have yet to have a car finish the race.

Qualifying

Race

Awards
ROTR = Beppe Gabbiani
DOTR = Harvey Jones
'Should've gone to specsavers' award = Beppe Gabbiani
'Like a lead balloon' award = Ligier

Driver's Championship
1. Callum McAllister - 12
2. Harvey Jones - 10
3. Alan Jones - 7
= Jody Scheckter - 7
5. Jean-Pierre Jabouille - 5
= Nelson Piquet - 5
7. Carlos Reutemann - 3
= Larry Perkins - 3
= Jacques Laffite - 3
9. Guilliame Gaithier - 1

Constructor's Championship
1. Williams-Honda - 19
2. Lotus-Renault - 17
3. Renault - 8
= Brabham-Renault - 8
5. Ligier-Talbot - 3
6. McLaren-Ford - 1

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19:29   EnzoOsella   predictable
19:29   YourHostPasta   Thomas Nurmester set a 1:13.830
19:30   YourHostPasta   0.421 seconds off the grid
19:30   YourHostPasta   in 36th
19:30   YourHostPasta   With Eddie Cheever last and 8 seconds off pole 
19:30   EnzoOsella   21:22 EnzoOsella Nurmester misses the grid by about half a second
19:30   EnzoOsella   I wasn't far off!
19:31   YourHostPasta   Full list of DNQs: Horford, Takagi, Rossler, Pironi, O'Connell, Nurmester, Sutherland, Ghinzani, Rangelov, and Cheever
19:32   EnzoOsella   Hmm, Cheever might get replaced for that
19:32   YourHostPasta   5 red lights
19:32   YourHostPasta   4 Red lights
19:32   YourHostPasta   3
19:32   YourHostPasta   2
19:32   YourHostPasta   1
19:32   YourHostPasta   ...
19:32   YourHostPasta   AND IT'S GO GO GO!
19:32   YourHostPasta   Reutemann up to 4th!
19:33   YourHostPasta   McAllister still leads!
19:33   YourHostPasta   Lammers, Gauthier, and Alan Jones go 3 wide through turn 2!
19:34   YourHostPasta   With Gauthier out on top!
19:34   YourHostPasta   No accidents so far!
19:35   YourHostPasta   Scheckter moves up to 2nd position!
19:35   YourHostPasta   Gauhtier is forming a Trulli train
19:35   YourHostPasta   Alan,Piquet and Lammers stuck behind the McLaren
19:36   YourHostPasta   Villeneuve is fighting for 27th!
19:36   YourHostPasta   Oh, how shite is that Ferrari
19:36   YourHostPasta   Right now, Wolliams leads Williams leads Ligier leads Ligier leads Lotus
19:37   YourHostPasta   Piquet has got past Gauthier and is now 7th
19:37   YourHostPasta   Beppe Gabbiani's Restov is stuck in 3rd gear!
19:37   YourHostPasta   He'll be coming in to retire after 3 laps
19:38   EnzoOsella   hmph, no fighting spirit at all : P
19:38   YourHostPasta   Harvey Jones is catching the ulsterman, Ed Kevin
19:38   YourHostPasta   Beleive it or not Gabbiani's stayed out!
19:38   YourHostPasta   As Piquet eyes up Reutemann for 6th
19:39   YourHostPasta   Back down the field, Rupert Keegan is in 26th
19:39   EnzoOsella   hehe, typical ISI glitch
19:39   YourHostPasta   Holding off Mansell, Depault and Prost
19:39   YourHostPasta   Gabbiani's been caught by the leaders!
19:39   EnzoOsella   a car won't pit despite a dodgy gearbox, or missing a wing, or sometimes both
19:40   YourHostPasta   He's holding up Scheckter in 7th!
19:40   YourHostPasta   2nd
19:40   YourHostPasta   McAllister now has a 3 second lead!
19:40   YourHostPasta   But Scheckter gets past, as Gabbiani hlds back the champion
19:41   YourHostPasta   de Angleis's REestov stops with brake failure
19:41   YourHostPasta   And Alan retires with engine failure!
19:41   YourHostPasta   Gabiani's been blak flagged by the officials!
19:42   YourHostPasta   And Harvey has got past Ed Kevin in all the confusion, and closes on Laffite
19:42   YourHostPasta   Gabbiani ignores the black flag!
19:43   YourHostPasta   The stewards have decided to Disqualify him!
19:43   YourHostPasta   As Harvey passes Laffite for 3rd in a banzai move!
19:43   YourHostPasta   Keegan has been promoted to 24th will the two retirements
19:44   YourHostPasta   But Mansell passes him for that position
19:44   YourHostPasta   Back at the front, McAllister now leads by just 2.9 seconds
19:44   YourHostPasta   Kevin's fallen to 6th behind Nelson Piquet
19:45   YourHostPasta   Whi is closing the 3 second deficit to Laffite
19:45   YourHostPasta   Arnoux is right behind Giacomellis gearbox in 19th
19:46   YourHostPasta   As Davey Clarke's Wolf spills out smoke!
19:46   YourHostPasta   And the Ferrari can't even pass the Wolf....
19:46   YourHostPasta   Things are still the same at the front
19:47   YourHostPasta   After 11 laps, it's McAllister from Scheckter from harvey Jones from Laffite, Piquet, Kevin, Perkins and Reutemann
19:48   YourHostPasta   The field seems to be spreading out more than it did last year
19:49   YourHostPasta   Down to Tony Trimmer, who's in the pits and has found Enzo Osella
19:49   YourHostPasta   Mr Osella, who's your favourite to win today?
19:50   YourHostPasta   Piquet can se Laffite now
19:50   YourHostPasta   Harvey Jones has closed on Sheckter
19:50   YourHostPasta   Davey Clarke has pulled over to the side of the road
19:51   YourHostPasta   Kevin's fallen to 7th as Perkins moves up to 8th
19:51   YourHostPasta   *6th
19:52   YourHostPasta   Good battle here between the two Audi's, Jabouille, CRASH!
19:52   EnzoOsella   "Well, I'd like to see Harvey Jones win, he seems like a decent lad"
19:52   YourHostPasta   Sorry Mr Osella, Jean Pierre Jabouille just spun out!
19:52   EnzoOsella   "But barring technical woes, McAllister should take this race as well"
19:52   YourHostPasta   He was in front of Henton, put a bit too much power down on the kerb and spun into the wall!
19:53   YourHostPasta   Talking of McAllister, he's caught Alain Prost in last place, Who's holding him up!
19:53   YourHostPasta   Scheckter ahs closed
19:53   YourHostPasta   And so has Harvey!
19:53   YourHostPasta   Oh!
19:53   YourHostPasta   WWHAT A PASS!
19:54   YourHostPasta   Scheckter passes both Prost and McAllister to take the lead
19:54   YourHostPasta   A=Now McAllister fights with Jones!
19:54   YourHostPasta   But Scheckter's stuck behind Depault and Keegan...
19:55   YourHostPasta   And he can't get through!
19:55   YourHostPasta   Mansell's FIAT explodes in black smoke just in front of the leaderS!
19:56   YourHostPasta   And Harvey's got a run n McAllister !
19:56   YourHostPasta   AND GOES THROUGH!
19:56   YourHostPasta   Scheckter's got past Depault, but Jones and McAllister haven't...
19:56   YourHostPasta   Lap 19 now
19:57   YourHostPasta   Bruno Giacomelli's brakes fail as well
19:57   YourHostPasta   Back at the front...
19:57   YourHostPasta   Scheckter is stuck behind Keegan noe
19:57   YourHostPasta   and is 2 seconds ahead of ones..
19:58   YourHostPasta   With him, McAllister, Laffite, and Piquet stuck behind Depault!
19:58   YourHostPasta   McAllister passes Jones and laps DeapultAs Piquet passes Laffite but can't make it stick
19:59   YourHostPasta   Harvey goes past Depault
19:59   tommykl   Where's Rupert now?
19:59   YourHostPasta   Reutemann's brakes have gone as well
19:59   YourHostPasta   Rupertis 20th due to retirements, and is holding up the leasers
20:00      *** tommykl quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)

20:00   YourHostPasta   Harvey Jones is still ebhind Keegan in 3rd
20:00   YourHostPasta   But Piquet is 4th
20:00   YourHostPasta   Essential if he wants to take the fight to Willias
20:00   YourHostPasta   Scheckter laps PatreseLap 23 now
20:01   YourHostPasta   Jones is past Keegan, and Piquet is past Depault
20:01   YourHostPasta   But Jone is now 3.7 second soff the lead
20:01   YourHostPasta   Larry Perkins is closing on Laffite now
20:02   YourHostPasta   Laffite pulls out to lap Depault..
20:02   YourHostPasta   BUT PERKINS GOES PAST BOTH OF THEM!
20:02   YourHostPasta   What a move!
20:02   YourHostPasta   To the left of Lffite then back across to the right past Depault
20:03   YourHostPasta   Intrestingly, Arnoux and Villeneuve are the next cars to be lapped
20:03   YourHostPasta   They're in 17th and 18th, 52 seconds off the lead
20:03   YourHostPasta   And about 20 seconds up the road from Scheckter
20:04   EnzoOsella   Laps left, cars running?
20:04   YourHostPasta   But the question is, as Jones and Piquet drop back, will the Hondas stay in one piece to allow Williams their first one two?
20:05   YourHostPasta   Amazingly, there's only been 8 retirements by the halfway point...
20:05   YourHostPasta   30 laps gone now of 61
20:05   YourHostPasta   Jones is starting to close on McAllister
20:06   YourHostPasta   And Trimmer's found Thomas Nurmester in the pits
20:06   YourHostPasta   So, Thomas, what went wrong in Qualifying?
20:06   EnzoOsella   "The car's just too slow!"
20:06   EnzoOsella   "We need turbos, pronto!"
20:07   YourHostPasta   TT: Sorry to hear that Thomas! Do you think Osella wil be able to improve?
20:07   YourHostPasta   As Arnoux's Ferrair explodes to spare him the shame of being lapped
20:08   YourHostPasta   The Scheckter-McAllister gap is staying at a steady rate, there must be team orders involved
20:08   EnzoOsella   "I hear we're going to get turbo engines next season. Plus, we might have a small edge on the more technical circuits this season due to not having turbo lag in our engines"
20:09   YourHostPasta   TT ne last question Thomas, do you think Lotus can mount a title challenge this year/

20:11   EnzoOsella   "They've got a solid driver pairing, and the chassis seems to be good. It really epends on the reliability of their Renault turbos."
20:12   YourHostPasta   TT: Thanks Thomas
20:12   YourHostPasta   Harvey's closed on McAllister
20:12   YourHostPasta   Remember Alan is out 
20:13   YourHostPasta   The interesting thing is, that after Scheckter laps Villeneuve, in about 5-10 laps
20:13   YourHostPasta   Is that there is a group of 5 cars, within 2 seconds of each other
20:13   YourHostPasta   The battle for 12th between Lauda's Audi, Surer's Audi, Fittipaldi's Merzaro, Andretti's Merzario, and Henton's Shadow
20:14   YourHostPasta   Harvey Jones could pass McAllister this laps
20:14   YourHostPasta   Lap 38 now, 39 across the line of 61
20:14   YourHostPasta   Andretti;s Brakes fail
20:14   YourHostPasta   Jones gains on McAllister...
20:14   YourHostPasta   And GOES THROUGH!
20:15   YourHostPasta   BUT MCALLISTER GOES BACK AROUND THE OUTSIDE!
20:15   YourHostPasta   UN BE LIE VABLE!
20:15   YourHostPasta   Scheckter's come up to Villeneuve now.
20:16   YourHostPasta   As he starts lap 40, here's the full order
20:17   YourHostPasta   Scheckter-McAllister-Jones-Piquet-Laffite-Kevin-Lammers-Gauthier-Bellof-Daly-Surer-Fittipaldi-Henton-Villeneuve-Patrese-Keegan-Depault-Prost
20:17   YourHostPasta   As both Audis retire within a lap of each other!
20:17   YourHostPasta   Bothe ngines failed
20:18   YourHostPasta   Scheckter's lapped Villeneuve, and is now behind Fittipaldi,w ho's battling with Henton
20:18   YourHostPasta   Harvey Jones also finds himself in 2nd position
20:18   YourHostPasta   18 runners
20:18   YourHostPasta   Jones is closing on Scheckter now...
20:18   YourHostPasta   but Villeneuve's between the two
20:19   YourHostPasta   And McAllister's right behind him!
20:19   EnzoOsella   TN: "Enzo, am I wrong or are those some German cursewords that are being shouted next to our pits?"
20:19   YourHostPasta   Jones laps Vill;eneuve,
20:19   YourHostPasta   Attacks Scheckter but Henton gets in the way
20:20   YourHostPasta   Hneton moves over now..
20:20   YourHostPasta   Jones is right behind Scheckter, with Fittpaldi's Merzario in front
20:20   YourHostPasta   This is interesting
20:21   YourHostPasta   McAllister is stuck behind Henton...
20:21   YourHostPasta   As Jones has closed on ScheckterFittpaldi's being very defensive...
20:21   YourHostPasta   But Scheckter and Jones are through
20:21   YourHostPasta   But McAllister can't get by
20:21   YourHostPasta   POiquet closed up in fourth now as well
20:22   YourHostPasta   He could still win the race!
20:22   YourHostPasta   McAllister past Fittpalid, but so did Henton
20:22   YourHostPasta   Patrese's Arrows conks out 
20:23   YourHostPasta   But Scheckter's caught Depault for second time...
20:23   YourHostPasta   Now, if Jones can get past Prost quickly..
20:24   YourHostPasta   Which he hasn't
20:24   YourHostPasta   Has now thoug
20:24   YourHostPasta   Depault's still holding Scheckter up...
20:24   YourHostPasta   AND JONES GOES INTO THE LEAD!
20:24   YourHostPasta   Scheckter left the door open at the last turn!
20:24   EnzoOsella   wooo!
20:25   YourHostPasta   Scheckter tries to go down the inside at T1, but Jones shuts the door!
20:25   YourHostPasta   He's still got to get past Depault now, with Scheckte ron his tail...
20:25   YourHostPasta   JONES AND SCHECKTER SIDE BY SIDE!
20:26   YourHostPasta   THE HONDA'S GOT MORE GRUNT
20:26   YourHostPasta   Scheckter leads again, but STILL behind Depault!
20:26   YourHostPasta   McAllister and Piquet are now right behind
20:26   YourHostPasta   HJones looks down the inside, but Jody shuts the door
20:27   YourHostPasta   Lap 51 across the line10 to go!
20:27   YourHostPasta   Jones goesfor it!
20:27   YourHostPasta   ABut can't make it stick
20:27   YourHostPasta   The leaders are seperated by just 1 second!#But Schekcter slips a little wide
20:28   YourHostPasta   ALLOWING JONES THROUGH!
20:28   YourHostPasta   If Jones can lap Depault down the main straight he could win the race!
20:28   YourHostPasta   Jones pulls out to lap Depault
20:28   YourHostPasta   and does so..
20:28   YourHostPasta   With Scheckter and McAllisterside by side behind!
20:29   EnzoOsella   sacred feces, this is exciting!
20:29   YourHostPasta   Piquet is looking to pass McAllister for 3rd now!
20:29   YourHostPasta   Jones leads by 2 seconds...
20:30   YourHostPasta   Scheckter goes around the outside of Depault at T1
20:30   YourHostPasta   With McAllister and Piquet still ebhind
20:30   YourHostPasta   Jones gets past Keegan...
20:30   YourHostPasta   As Scheckter gets stuck behind ANOTHER JLD
20:31   YourHostPasta   Not for long...
20:31   YourHostPasta   PIQUET'S THIRD!
20:31   YourHostPasta   He muscled his way past McAllister, there was slight contact
20:31   EnzoOsella   I guess I should put the lottery ticket in, first I guessed Nurmester's qualifying time almost spot on and now Harvey Jones is leading...
20:31   YourHostPasta   Haha!
20:32   YourHostPasta   Just 6 laps to go now, Jones leads bu 3.4 seconds..
20:32   YourHostPasta   McAllister in the sister Williams couldn't overcome that big of a gap...
20:32   YourHostPasta   so can Scheckter do it?
20:32   YourHostPasta   Talking of McAllister, perkins has come out of no where to demote him to 5th!
20:33   YourHostPasta   3.6 seconds across the line, Jones--->Scheckter....
20:33   YourHostPasta   Piquet's dropping back, he's 10 seconds off the lead
20:33   YourHostPasta   With 4 to go!!!
20:33   YourHostPasta   The gap is 3.8 seconds!
20:34   YourHostPasta   Daly's 5-10 seconds up the road in 11th
20:34   YourHostPasta   He won't be caught...
20:34   YourHostPasta   So it's Scheckter v Jones...
20:35   YourHostPasta   Still 17 runners, the highest number of finishers (should the race end now) since Brazil 79
20:35   YourHostPasta   The gap is 4.1 seconds!
20:35   YourHostPasta   Wow!
20:35   YourHostPasta   As Keeegan's engine goes with 3 to go...
20:36   YourHostPasta   Can Jones do it?
20:36   YourHostPasta   If he does, Nuppiz, you'd better get that Lottery ticket!
20:36   YourHostPasta   4.3!
20:36   EnzoOsella   aye
20:37   YourHostPasta   ONE TO GO!
20:37   YourHostPasta   The gaps 4.4. across the line!
20:37   YourHostPasta   HOW EXCITING!
20:37   YourHostPasta   THE CAPS LOCK COMES OUT...
20:38   YourHostPasta   Harvey Jones exits the last turn...
20:38   YourHostPasta   Comes down the straight
20:38   EnzoOsella   *cue the camera zooming to the Lotus' team bosses shoes...*
20:38   YourHostPasta   TO WIN!
20:38   EnzoOsella   brilliant!
20:38   YourHostPasta   THE SOUTH AFRICAN GRAND PRIX, SETTING HIS TITLE CHALLENGE ON TRCK!
20:38      *** EnzoOsella is now known as Nuppiz
20:38   YourHostPasta   Wow!
20:39   YourHostPasta   Scheckter brings it home to finish 2nd, 4.5 seconds down
20:39   YourHostPasta   Piquet 3rd
20:39   YourHostPasta   Perkins 4th, ahead of McAllister
20:39   YourHostPasta   Laffite takes th last point in 6th
20:39   YourHostPasta   Kevin 7th, Lammers 8th, Gauthier a superb 9th for McLaren
20:39   YourHostPasta   Bellof 10th
20:40   YourHostPasta   Daly 11th, last man on the lead lap
20:40   YourHostPasta   Henton, Fittipaldi, Villeneuve are all a lap down, and finsih within 1 second of each other..
20:40   YourHostPasta   And Depault and Prost a lap down!
20:40   YourHostPasta   *2 laps 
20:41   YourHostPasta   Wow, what a race
20:42   YourHostPasta   The Lotus crew have every right to party tonight!
20:42   Nuppiz   indeed, one of the best live broadcasts to date
20:42   YourHostPasta   I don't know how a ritten report can do it justice...
20:42   YourHostPasta   Of course, Lotus are the Kings of shcok wins...
20:42   YourHostPasta   *written
20:43   Nuppiz   just ditch the chatlog to Pastebin and link it on the forums

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 08 Dec 2012, 16:42

Why hasn't Ferrari been given ROTR? Qualifies 23rd and 24th and both are nowhere in sight for the race. Incredulous!

Post by **Nuppiz** » 08 Dec 2012, 16:42

Eddie Cheever will be replaced with Teo Fabi for the next race. There is just no excuse in being four seconds slower than anyone else!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 08 Dec 2012, 16:45

JeremyMcClean wrote:Why hasn't Ferrari been given ROTR? Qualifies 23rd and 24th and both are nowhere in sight for the race. Incredulous!

Because Gabbiani's actions were more rejectful! Ferrari can be added as a negative as well.

JJMonty · Post by **JJMonty** » 08 Dec 2012, 17:04

Audi find the reliability of the engine concerning - a real shame as we are confident that the power produced by these engines are among the best on the grid! Unfortunatly, there is a limited amount of work we can do until after the 3rd race - so I think it is a case of keeping fingers crossed, wrap the engine like a present using Gaffa-Tape and make sure that Niki Lauda and Marc Surer use their best abilities to make the finish line!

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 08 Dec 2012, 17:07

What we can do? Hiroshi and Pironi had been complaining.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 08 Dec 2012, 17:09

FMecha wrote:What we can do? Hiroshi and Pironi had been complaining.

Was that a request for advice about upgrades? Remember, I can only offer you advice once

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 08 Dec 2012, 17:30

pasta_maldonado wrote:
FMecha wrote:What we can do? Hiroshi and Pironi had been complaining.

Was that a request for advice about upgrades? Remember, I can only offer you advice once

No.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 08 Dec 2012, 17:57

Gabbiani banned? I guess this means Nicchi will be in the car for Brazil

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 08 Dec 2012, 18:36

darkapprentice77 wrote:Gabbiani banned? I guess this means Nicchi will be in the car for Brazil

You guessed correctly. Valentino Nichhi will make his F1 debut in Brazil.

Meanwhile pasta, are there any decent drivers that are unsigned? I signed up Elio to lead the team forward, but seeing as he's being outshone by Beppe Gabianni of all people, he might be replaced if he doesn't pick the pace up.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 08 Dec 2012, 18:43

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
darkapprentice77 wrote:Gabbiani banned? I guess this means Nicchi will be in the car for Brazil

You guessed correctly. Valentino Nichhi will make his F1 debut in Brazil.

Meanwhile pasta, are there any decent drivers that are unsigned? I signed up Elio to lead the team forward, but seeing as he's being outshone by Beppe Gabianni of all people, he might be replaced if he doesn't pick the pace up.

Well, of the real F1 drivers that didn't compete in alternate 1979 you've got Clay Regazzoni and Patrick Depailler. Of course you can also bring in a real-life driver earlier than they did in real life (like Stefan Bellof), provided they are a plausible age and have had a plausible amount of experience.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 08 Dec 2012, 20:46

Valentino Nicchi wrote:Well, it's a shame for Beppe but for sure I'm very excited to make my debut in Brazil, a top 15 finish would be good.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 08 Dec 2012, 21:10

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Meanwhile pasta, are there any decent drivers that are unsigned? I signed up Elio to lead the team forward, but seeing as he's being outshone by Beppe Gabianni of all people, he might be replaced if he doesn't pick the pace up.

Osella would be willing to lend Teo Fabi - we can always replace Eddie Cheever with Siegfried Stohr instead.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 08 Dec 2012, 23:44

pasta_maldonado wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Why hasn't Ferrari been given ROTR? Qualifies 23rd and 24th and both are nowhere in sight for the race. Incredulous!

Because Gabbiani's actions were more rejectful! Ferrari can be added as a negative as well.

Quite indeed, the Ferrari Turbo works team being soundfully beaten by the RAM March Lotus Ferrari Fiat customer V12 Super Aguri team. (it's just RAM March, really)

If anybody needs a driver: Brancatelli is available and he did a decent job last year for RAM. Not winner material (unlike Lammers) but a good consistent points scorer.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 09 Dec 2012, 00:34

Harvey Jones wrote:Naturally I'm delighted with the win, the car ran beautifully all day. I hope this can be the start of a decent attempt at the championship this year, though I fear unreliability will hold us back. Our boys and Renault need to make sure we can get our cars to the finish in every race, or we might as well forget about any sort of championship.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 09 Dec 2012, 04:58

This wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Why hasn't Ferrari been given ROTR? Qualifies 23rd and 24th and both are nowhere in sight for the race. Incredulous!

Because Gabbiani's actions were more rejectful! Ferrari can be added as a negative as well.

Quite indeed, the Ferrari Turbo works team being soundfully beaten by the RAM March Lotus Ferrari Fiat customer V12 Super Aguri team. (it's just RAM March, really)

If anybody needs a driver: Brancatelli is available and he did a decent job last year for RAM. Not winner material (unlike Lammers) but a good consistent points scorer.

If Rebaque keeps DNQing, we might take a look at Gianfranco.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 09 Dec 2012, 14:29

pasta, can Restov test at Silverstone for 2 days, before the Brazilian race? We would like de Angelis in one car for both days, and we'll try Brancatelli in the second car on the first day and if Osella agree to it, Teo Fabi on day 2

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 09 Dec 2012, 14:31

takagi_for_the_win wrote:pasta, can Restov test at Silverstone for 2 days, before the Brazilian race? We would like de Angelis in one car for both days, and we'll try Brancatelli in the second car on the first day and if Osella agree to it, Teo Fabi on day 2

Sure!

IF any other team wants to hold a test, they can - but each team can only have 1 test every 2 races.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:22

takagi_for_the_win wrote:pasta, can Restov test at Silverstone for 2 days, before the Brazilian race? We would like de Angelis in one car for both days, and we'll try Brancatelli in the second car on the first day and if Osella agree to it, Teo Fabi on day 2

Osella is happy to lend Teo Fabi to Restov, and we'd also like to announce a private test of our own at Monza. Due to lack of funds it will be for one day only, with Eddie Cheever and Siegfried Stohr being compared to each other.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:35

Ligier would like to test at Paul Ricard for two days, with Laffite testing both days and Kevin and Schlesser doing a day each. Any other teams who'd like to test at the same time, feel free to join us.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:46

Hiroshi and Pironi will do first day. Also, if situations are possible, Nurmester will drive in place of Pironi in the second day.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:47

FMecha wrote:Hiroshi and Pironi will do first day. Also, if situations are possible, Nurmester will drive in place of Pironi in the second day.

Yes, Nurmester is available for Tyrrell testing.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 09 Dec 2012, 15:48

Nuppiz wrote:
FMecha wrote:Hiroshi and Pironi will do first day. Also, if situations are possible, Nurmester will drive in place of Pironi in the second day.

Yes, Nurmester is available for Tyrrell testing.

Deal then. And Takagi will also do the second day.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Dec 2012, 16:04

Renault will join Ligier at the Paul Ricard test, with Reutemann and Jabouille doing both days.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 09 Dec 2012, 16:22

Ferrari will attempt to put in a test in Paul Ricard to build on speed. More speed! Arnoux, Villeneuve and test driver Keke Rosberg will be there.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 09 Dec 2012, 21:52

Here come the test results...

Silverstone Test - Teams present: Restov Racing
Day 1 - Weather - Sunny
1. Gianfranco Brancatelli 1:19.230 +00:00.000
2. Elio de Angelis 1:20.589 +00:01.358

Day 2 - Weather - Sunny
1. Elio de Angelis 1:19.546 +00:00.000
2. Teo Fabi 1:20.742 +00:01.195

Monza Test - Teams Present: Osella
Day 1 - Weather - Sunny
1. Siegfried Stohr 1:41.943 +00:00.000
2. Eddie Cheever 1:44.081 +00.02.138

Paul Ricard test - Teams Present: Ligier, Renault, Ferrari and Tyrrell
Day 1 - Weather - Overcast
1. Jacques Laffite (Ligier-Talbot) 1:45.887 +0:00.000
2. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Renault) 1:45.834 +0:00.247
3. Carlos Reutemann (Renault) 1:46.373 +0:00.786
4. Jean-Louis Schlesser (Ligier-Talbot) 1:46.569 +0:00.982
5. Rene Arnoux (Ferrari) 1:46.617 +0:01.036
6. Keke Rosberg (Ferrari) 1:46.949 +0:01.538
7. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari) 1:47.124 +0:01.538
8. Didier Pironi (Tyrrell-Cosworth) 1:47.675 +0:02.083
9. Hiroshi Takagi (Tyrrell-Cosworth) 1:47.684 +0:02.097

Day 2 - Weather - Sunny
1. Edward Kevin (Ligier-Talbot) 1:42.625 +0:00.000
2. Carlos Reutemann (Renault) 1:42.872 +0:00.246
3. Jacques Laffite (Ligier-Talbot) 1:42.992 +0:00.367
4. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari) 1:42.994 +0:00.369
5. Rene Arnoux (Ferrari) 1:43.734 +0:01.087
6. Keke Rosberg (Ferrari) 1:44.034 +0:01.408
7. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Renault) 1:44.312 +0:01.687
8. Thomas Nurmester (Tyrrell-Cosworth) 1:45.300 +0:02.675
9. Hiroshi Takagi (Tyrrell-Cosworth) 1:45.865 +0:03.240

Post by **Nuppiz** » 09 Dec 2012, 22:10

That confirms it. Eddie Cheever will be demoted to a test driver position, and his race seat will be taken over by Siegfried Stohr.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 09 Dec 2012, 22:11

If anything, it shows that I need a large upgrade ASAP.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 10 Dec 2012, 00:19

Teddy Mayer wrote:BATHPLUG!STILL NO POINTS EVEN THOUGH WE WORKED OUR BATHPLUGGING BEHINDS OFF!

Ron Dennis wrote:Calm down,everything will be perfectly negotiatable once we adapt to the situation in which we got ourselves into.

Teddy Mayer wrote:What the bathplug are you saying.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 10 Dec 2012, 05:02

If possible, JLD will run a test at Hockenheim. Keegan will run both days in one car while Depault and Bleekemolen will share the second car. We'd also like to invite Audi along to make a complete Volkswagen test session.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 10 Dec 2012, 05:06

I was just thinking - to make the driver market fairer in future seasons, perhaps we should start using the contract method pioneered by Flaschenpost, now being used by Samster in Alternate BTCC, in future. Driver ownership doesn't really work in the context of real life drivers...

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 10 Dec 2012, 05:18

kostas22 wrote:I was just thinking - to make the driver market fairer in future seasons, perhaps we should start using the contract method pioneered by Flaschenpost, now being used by Samster in Alternate BTCC, in future. Driver ownership doesn't really work in the context of real life drivers...

I second that notion but on the basis that I can keep that clown Depault on as a test driver or something like that.

JJMonty · Post by **JJMonty** » 10 Dec 2012, 13:33

Wizzie wrote:If possible, JLD will run a test at Hockenheim. Keegan will run both days in one car while Depault and Bleekemolen will share the second car. We'd also like to invite Audi along to make a complete Volkswagen test session.

Audi accept JLD's invite and would like to use Jochen Mass to test the car on all days. We will be focusing on reliability and trying to work out how a team using customer engines of the same design can make their engines last the whole race - whilst ours keep on detonating!

Edit: @ Pasta - Any chance of doing a race report with screen shots? I enjoyed being able to see clips of the cars during the highlights of the race!