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FloProAct wrote:On a totally unrelated note, J-C Boullion is down as Thompson's international codriver on the wiki. Surely he is ineligible, given his 1999 season with Renault?

I believe so, he did race in every single event in 1999...


So anonymous that I complete forgot about that. So this means pi314159 will have to pick someone else for the JC 600.
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Samster wrote:
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FloProAct wrote:On a totally unrelated note, J-C Boullion is down as Thompson's international codriver on the wiki. Surely he is ineligible, given his 1999 season with Renault?

I believe so, he did race in every single event in 1999...


So anonymous that I complete forgot about that. So this means pi314159 will have to pick someone else for the JC 600.


Would Jan Magnussen be available for this event?
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pi314159 wrote:Would Jan Magnussen be available for this event?

Depends how flexible Samster is with clashing events. On the weekend of the JC600 Magnussen was racing at Ring Djursland in the DTC, trying (and failing) to defend his title.
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Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
pi314159 wrote:Would Jan Magnussen be available for this event?

Depends how flexible Samster is with clashing events. On the weekend of the JC600 Magnussen was racing at Ring Djursland in the DTC, trying (and failing) to defend his title.


Since he ended up not in real contention, Magnussen will be willing to skip the Ring Djursland event in favour of the JC 600.
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Yes, this is great. Gio was at the top on his debut and favourite for the champoinship and Hughes and Huff were also very fast and should take a few wins in their own right.
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Cardiff 500 Entry List

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Track Length 3.6049 km

Saturday Race 1 70 Laps
Sunday Race 2 70 Laps

Entry List (35 Cars)
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Cardiff Bay 500 Race 1 Qualifying

And it's GO GO GO! :D

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A strong qualifying session for WSR despite losing their MG backing, as Anthony Reid takes the first pole of the new season by over half a second while Dan Eaves winds up a solid 7th. Rickard Rydell is the first of the ETCC wildcards alongside Reid on the front row, just ahead of Vauxhall's new lead driver, Fabrizio Giovanardi.

And amazingly I actually managed to out qualify someone in my ancient Lexus. :D
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Qualifying was a bit dissapointing for Vauxhall but we should be fast in the race
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Ha ha go Reidy
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9 seconds off the pace? Not slow enough for a reject team. Did you know, that the bonnet on the car that will take the start tomorrow has been driven in the passenger seat of John B&Q's 03 reg Ford Fiesta all the way from some Mid-England wokshop after the original one broke?
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That must've been the lap of Andy Neate's life, he was actually close to the people who aren't hilariously off the pace.
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Good job Thompson, but I'm a little disapponited by Motoyama, the change from Super GT to BTCC is more difficul than expected.
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Larkham must be really regretting moving from Australia just to become the laughing stock of the paddock.
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Bath plugging typical, the laptop that I run NR2003 on has decided to stop working. ARRRRRRAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

To make things worse, most of the tracks won't even work on my newer laptop. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Was really looking forward to running this. Looks like we will be on hold until that laptop sorts itself out.
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Tell me the specs of both laptops and I will proably summon Cynon here. :)
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FMecha wrote:Tell me the specs of both laptops and I will proably summon Cynon here. :)


No need, I already have NR2003, and have run a virtual series with it before, I can act as an interim host until Samster's laptop is sorted. But it'll have to be after this weekend.
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FMecha wrote:Tell me the specs of both laptops and I will proably summon Cynon here. :)


No need, I already have NR2003, and have run a virtual series with it before, I can act as an interim host until Samster's laptop is sorted. But it'll have to be after this weekend.


You'd need the car/driver ratings and liveries though and I can't get onto the laptop to access them. That laptop had the same issue a year ago and it sorted itself out once it ran out of power after a few days, I'm currently trying to get it to run out and hopefully once it does I'll be able to log on to it again as I was last time.

The laptop with issues is a Windows XP, its ancient and I literally only use it for NR2003 these days. Car files for the BTCC (and A1GP) are on there. Thankfully liveries are nice and safe on my memory stick.

My new one which I got to replace the XP back in September is a Windows 7, I tried installing NR2003 on to it today, everything works as it did on the old one except certain downloaded tracks will not load.
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Good news, my plan to leave it running until it ran out of power worked. Once I reconnected it to the mains and turned it back on the screen began working again. So I can run Round 1 tonight. :D
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Cardiff 500 Saturday Race 1 Results

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James Thompson is our first winner of the season, the first time a none Vauxhall driver has won the opening round since 2000. He took the lead from Fabrizio Giovanardi on a safety car restart on lap 21 and lead for the remainder of the race. Warren Hughes managed to take first blood on his big name teammate to take 2nd place as both of the Vauxhall drivers managed to fight their way past Colin Turkington's SEAT in the closing stages. Anthony Reid will be disappointed with 5th after recovering from damaging his MG by whacking the wall while fighting off Rickard Rydell.

Race Highlights
Lap 1 - Reid gets a good start from pole while Rydell looses 2nd to Giovanardi, Turner damages the front of his car at the start forcing an unscheduled stop dropping him to the back.
Lap 3 - Hempsall plants his Lexus into the wall at turn 5 after a good start saw him get by both of the TH-Larkham Focus. He makes it back to the pits drops two laps down, makes it back out for another two laps before returning back into the garage.
Lap 8 - Alex Wurz brakes way too late at turn 10 and whacks into the rear of Rob Collard's BMW. Wurz has to make a pitstop which puts him a lap down while Collard is able to continue despite minor damage.
Lap 9 - Richard Marsh is already caught by the leaders to go a lap down.
Lap 10 - Giovanardi gets by Reid at turn 10.
Lap 11 - David Pinkney retires with a piston failure.
Lap 13 - 1st Safety Car James Kaye spins and backs into the wall at turn 10, his Proton is stuck in the tyres and has to be towed out. He looses two laps. Everyone except Wurz takes to the pitlane, Reid drops to 3rd behind Thompson after the stops.
Lap 16 - Wurz gets in the way of the leaders on the restart, Reid whacks the wall coming out of turn 12 while fighting Rydell off for 3rd. Meanwhile many of the tailenders were unable to catch up to the leaders under the safety car, hence Nick Leason, the final lead lap car is still almost a lap down.
Lap 18 - 2nd Safety Car Leason succumbs to the leaders, his slow pace causes them to bunch up. He is quickly passed until its Gavin Smith's turn. Leason gets squeezed into the barrier coming out of turn 4 by Smith causing his right front wheel to be dislodged while Smith is spun into the wall causing significant front end damage. Despite this Smith is able to make repairs without loosing a lap and continues on while Leason's Focus is stranded on the straight. Reid pits to repair the damage to his MG, unfortunately he is one of the few to pit as Yvan Muller is the only other leader to pit, both drop down well into the midfield. Mike Jordan looses two laps after a clutch issue during his pitstop.
Lap 21 - Thompson manages to get past Giovanardi on the restart.
Lap 24 - Rob Huff and Tom Chilton collide at turn 13 resulting in the SEAT driver spinning off into the escape road. He is able to rejoin but looses several positions. Meanwhile Reid and Muller are flying through the field on fresher rubber.
Lap 30 - 3rd Safety Car Collard's BMW is stuck in the tyres after going straight on at turn 6. Everyone pits. Dan Eaves suffers a huge delay in his stop costing him a lap.
Lap 33 - Thompson retains his lead at the restart from Giovanardi while Rydell leads the next group from Warren Hughes, Colin Turkington, Matt Neal, Alain Menu and Yvan Muller.
Lap 34 - Menu looses control through turn 1 and hits the wall, despite the terminal damage, he is able to park his Astra off the road to prevent another safety car.
Lap 40 - Hughes gets past Rydell for 3rd. He closes in on teammate Giovanardi.
Lap 44 - Hughes gets by his teammate for 2nd. He is clearly flying as he sets his sights on Thompson.
Lap 46 - 4th Safety Car Luke Hines' Civic overheats in dramatic fashion causing a fire in his engine. He is forced to park at the side of the road for the marshals to deal with. Everyone else makes their final stops.
Lap 49 - Thompson retains the lead but Turkington made a great stop to come out in 2nd ahead of Hughes, Rydell and Giovanardi. However Eaves is in between Thompson and Turkington and bunches up the leaders for a few laps before he is eventually passed but not before Giovanardi sneaks past Rydell for 4th.
Lap 52 - Rydell looses more positions to Muller and Reid.
Lap 58 - Smith's Astra finally succumbs to the damage caused by his collision with Leason, he pulls into the garage with a suspension failure.
Lap 63 - Its clear that this long final stint is taking its toll on the SEATs tyres. Turkington looses 2nd to Hughes while further back, Rydell is struggling to fight off Huff for 7th while Neal is dropping through the field having lost out to Huff himself a few laps before, he is now holding up Andy Priaulx, Jason Plato and Gabriele Tarquini.
Lap 66 - Reid gets past Muller for 5th.
Lap 68 - Turkington's pace continues to decline as he struggles with his tyres, Giovanardi gets past for 3rd.
Lap 70 - Thompson wins from Hughes and Giovanardi. Meanwhile Neal drops from 10th to 12th on the final lap as Plato and Tarquini get by.

Championship Standings will be uploaded to the wiki shortly, don't forget to nominate your ROTR. ;)
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Two cars on the podium is not bad. Wow, Marsh was shite
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God damn it...
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Top 10 is not bad for Plato, made even better by beating Neal! I wonder if Hines car can be repaired before race #2?
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Cardiff 500 Sunday Race 2 Qualifying

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Again, Reid takes pole but it is much closer than yesterday as Giovanardi is only 8 thousandths behind. Hughes and Eaves improve their quali performances to make up row 2 while yesterday's race winner, Thompson is down in 9th.
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That's a lot better, 4 SEATs in the top 10. Hopefully it'll stay that way.
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Why can't Menu break the top 10? He has a championship winning car and is a championship winning driver. He should be up there with Gio!
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Stramala [kostas22] wrote:Why can't Menu break the top 10? He has a championship winning car and is a championship winning driver. He should be up there with Gio!


Tech-Speed were never a great team in real life so I would say that the team are letting him down. Please don't insult me foe saying this.
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eurobrun wrote:Please don't insult me foe saying this.

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Come on now, you're playing the victim again? See, this is exactly what I'm tired of. If you started acting like everyone else on this forum again I'd have said nothing...actually I was about to agree with what you were saying until that last sentence popped up. I have no reason to insult you in this post, and I won't, but, no doubt you'll take this personally and call me an American swearword again. Please stop acting so infantile and treating me differently to everyone else. I am tired with reading your constant complaining about me when no-one else seems to have the same issue...
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Maybe the wise thing to do is not say that crap to me in the first place. That would solve all this pretty much instantly. I consider what I said to have been a reasonable assumption to make knowing past history.
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eurobrun wrote:Maybe the wise thing to do is not say that crap to me in the first place. That would solve all this pretty much instantly. I consider what I said to have been a reasonable assumption to make knowing past history.

You're missing the point entirely...I'm not saying 'crap', you're just misintepriting it as such and making a huge deal out of it for no good reason.
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eurobrun wrote:Maybe the wise thing to do is not say that crap to me in the first place. That would solve all this pretty much instantly. I consider what I said to have been a reasonable assumption to make knowing past history.

You're missing the point entirely...I'm not saying 'crap', you're just misintepriting it as such and making a huge deal out of it for no good reason.


You have called me an idiot and various other things on for a fair while now. Usually that is just annoying and pointless but I have got so much other stuff on my mind right now that it really pisses me off atm
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Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Maybe the wise thing to do is not say that crap to me in the first place. That would solve all this pretty much instantly. I consider what I said to have been a reasonable assumption to make knowing past history.

You're missing the point entirely...I'm not saying 'crap', you're just misintepriting it as such and making a huge deal out of it for no good reason.


You have called me an idiot and various other things on for a fair while now. Usually that is just annoying and pointless but I have got so much other stuff on my mind right now that it really pisses me off atm

Again, back to what BCS said, you're dragging me under the bus with you why? If you have stuff on your mind that has nothing to do with F1 Rejects then deal with it yourself rather than taking it out on others.

Don't you get the only reason this is happening is because you take everything way to personally? This is pure over-reaction and nothing else. Log off for a day and come back. Your presence here doesn't bother me unless you start acting as you have been for the past couple of days.
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Basically what I have been trying to say is please don't call me an idiot or anything like that. Understand?
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eurobrun wrote:Basically what I have been trying to say is please don't call me an idiot or anything like that. Understand?

Not even going to dignify that with a proper response...
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Race results and updated standings are up. Detailed results and highlights will be posted on here tomorrow.
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Small upgrades for the Chassis Engine and Areodynamics for Vauxhall please.
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Large reliability upgrade for Proton please.
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Medium aerodynamics and engine for Honda, please.
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Small engine and reliability upgrades for Tech-Speed
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Small chassis and engine upgrade for GA. :)
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Cardiff 500 Sunday Race 2 Results

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Race Highlights

Lap 1 - Anthony Reid immediately looses the lead to Fabrizio Giovanardi at the start. Further back Alex Wurz makes contact with Gareth Howell causing the Austrian to get loose and tag the back of Charlie Butler-Henderson. CBH's Astra spins around across the cars behind and is whacked head on by John George then from the rear by Mark Larkham. CBH and Larko are left stranded in the middle of the track while George makes it back to the garage to retire. Wurz also squeezed Gavin Pyper into the wall causing damage to both, Wurz ends up a lap down. The safety car is brought out.
Lap 3 - Andy Neate inexplicably manages to throw his car into the tyres at turn 5 under SC conditions. James Kaye is caught by surprise and smacks into the back of Neate while David Pinkney is also held up. Neate is out on the spot while Kaye makes it back to the garage.
Lap 4 - The order is maintained on the restart as Giovanardi still leads from Reid, Hughes, Muller and Neal.
Lap 10 - Yvan Muller suffers a puncture causing him to go a lap down. This promote Saturday winner James Thompson into the top 5.
Lap 12 - Richard Marsh goes a lap down and manages to cost Reid 2nd to Hughes by waddling around in the middle of the road.
Lap 13 - 2nd Safety Car Marsh plants it in the turn 13 wall after outbraking himself as Gabriele Tarquini was lapping him.
Lap 16 - Everyone on track makes their first stops except for Muller. Hughes and Reid manage to leapfrog Giovanardi by only taking two fresh tyres, will this alternate strategy work? Meanwhile Gavin Smith suffers another suspension failure and has to crawl back to the pits. Pyper on fresh tyres spins off when he has to avoid him.
Lap 17 - Reid leads the restart and is immediately passed by Hughes, Giovanardi then takes him at the end of the lap.
Lap 18 - It appears Hughes and Reid's gamble will backfire as Giovanardi retakes the lead from his teammate while Reid looses 3rd to Matt Neal.
Lap 19 - Matt Neal passes Hughes for 2nd and hunts down Giovanardi, Reid continues to struggle as he is now holding up Thompson, Rydell, Eaves, Priaulx, Chilton and Menu make up the rest of the top 10.
Lap 21 - Dan Eaves makes a 2nd stop for some reason which drops him down to 23rd, ahead of only Wurz, Muller and Nick Leason. He will have the advantage of the best tyres in the field though. Rob Collard does the same a few laps later.
Lap 26 - Neal manages to take the lead from Giovanardi, Thompson is now 3rd and catching the Italian. Rest of the top 10 has changed dramatically too. Rydell, Priaulx, Huff, Chilton, Menu, Plato and Turner. Hughes and Reid have now dropped to 12th and 14th with Colin Turkington in between, struggling for pace despite being on the regular strategy. Behind, Hines and Leslie are closing in fast.
Lap 34 - Turner out brakes himself in turn 5 and rear ends his own teammate. Plato seems to be unaffected but Turner suffers race ending damage to the front of his car.
Lap 41 - Matt Neal is flying. By the time the 2nd round of pitstops have come, Neal has a 20 second lead over Giovanardi and Thompson. The rest are almost a minute behind. Huff has now got up to 4th while Rydell and Priaulx have been caught by Menu and Plato. Chilton has dropped to 9th with Tarquini making up the top ten. Next up is Hines from Turkington, Leslie, Motoyama, Hughes, Reid and Eaves is the final car on the lead lap. Turkington is first to make his 2nd stop.
Lap 46 - Both Neal and Giovanardi have taken their stops leaving Thompson in the lead. Though those that have stopped early will have the initial advantage of fresh tyres, those who wait longer will take that advantage back for the rest of the race after their respective stops. Also staying out are Huff, Menu, Rydell, Priaulx and Plato. Meanwhile Reid is now a lap down after making his pitstop. He had been passed by his teammate right before his pitstop, despite Eaves having made an extra stop.
Lap 47 - 3rd Safety Car Menu has crashed in turn one again, same as in Race 1, except this time he has had help. Reid tagged Menu after the Swiss driver lapped him, sending him spinning off into the tyres. Menu is fine but Reid may see some discipline his way. The safety car will help out anyone who is yet to pit by canceling out the time that those on fresh tyres have made up on them. It is looking good for Thompson but he'll still have to pass Neal and Giovanardi on track as well as a few lapped cars. Plato meanwhile had made his pitstop just before the safety and has dropped off the lead lap.
Lap 50 - Neal leads off the restart, he Giovanardi and Thompson have the lapped cars of Plato, Reid, Howell and Breeze. This will help out Neal's chances of holding off Thompson who now has the advantage of fresher tyres.
Lap 54 - The top three are now clear of the lapped traffic meaning that Neal and Giovanardi are now vulnerable to Thompson. Huff is 4th from Tarquini, Priaulx, Rydell, Chilton, Turkington and Hines. Eaves and Leslie are the only other cars still on the lead lap. Meanwhile Plato suddenly slows up with a valve failure.
Lap 56 - Thompson take the lead from Neal who is powerless to stop him. The Honda driver has over a second per lap on Neal and Giovanardi. Huff on the same strategy is closing fast but since he and the rest of the lead lap cars failed to catch up under the safety car he is over twenty seconds behind. Further back Tarquini looses out to Priaulx and Rydell.
Lap 60 - Tarquini drops further back as the SEAT pair of Turkington and Chilton get by. Thompson already has a lead of ten seconds.
Lap 70 - Thompson ends up winning by 45 seconds! Neal manages to get some lapped cars between himself and Giovanardi who almost gets pipped for the podium by Huff, the rookie running an impressive drive in just his second race. Hines also gets Tarquini for 9th and just barely avoids being lapped by Thompson.
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