F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 17 Jan 2013, 15:45

pycku wrote:Can someone explain me some things i didn't find solution in the rules:

1. How are races calculated? And if they are computerised - how exactly does penalty system works?
2. How can I make a livery?
3. If I start as a new team - what will be my budget?
4. Is there a waiting list for season 2016? I'm interested at joining the series.

1. As I understand, to overcome the 22 car limit in GP4, two races are run and the results amalgamated into a single result. The penalty system works by TMLW watching the coverage and penalising drivers when they drive like idiots and crash into each other needlessly.

2. You can use the GP2 Series template for GP4, or ask someone else to do it (a few of us here are pretty good at it, but don't be duped by Melrose's offers to do liveries for you, his 'artwork' is shocking to say the least!)

3. F3RWRS doesn't have a budget system. So, zero, just like everyone else.

4. I am not sure, you'll have to ask TMLW. However, as I understand it, Shonan and Hydook are withdrawing and being replaced with Nurminen Racing Engineering only. So I think there isn't a waiting list at the moment.

Also, here's a preview of what the 2016 IBR car is going to look like...

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 17 Jan 2013, 16:25

And if that post in the RWRS silly season thread didn't confirm it, then I shall state it here as well: like Pycku, I intend to enter this series in the near future

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 17 Jan 2013, 16:49

Stramala, that is one hell of a fetching paint job

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 17 Jan 2013, 16:51

Phoenix wrote:Stramala, that is one hell of a fetching paint job

Thanks. But it'll need a couple more tweaks before it's ready.

Post by **Ataxia** » 17 Jan 2013, 17:03

I forgot to add the chrome layer to the car...shame on me.

Then again, it is black so wouldn't make too much difference.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 17 Jan 2013, 17:05

pycku wrote:Can someone explain me some things i didn't find solution in the rules:

1. How are races calculated? And if they are computerised - how exactly does penalty system works?
2. How can I make a livery?
3. If I start as a new team - what will be my budget?
4. Is there a waiting list for season 2016? I'm interested at joining the series.

Bob Sampson is interested in joining your team

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Jan 2013, 17:09

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:4. I am not sure, you'll have to ask TMLW. However, as I understand it, Shonan and Hydook are withdrawing and being replaced with Nurminen Racing Engineering only. So I think there isn't a waiting list at the moment.

Two teams leaving at the end of the season? That would mean that Mazzacane gets a full season entry, since I was behind Nurminen Racing Engineering. But I don't know if anyone else is behind me on the waiting list.

Post by **Ataxia** » 17 Jan 2013, 18:02

Just because I could (more to show off the GP2-style personal sponsors off more, won't the marking dept. be pleased?):

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 17 Jan 2013, 18:03

Then I'd like to enter for 2016 with Bulgarian team DSR. As for drivers, we may use fictional Brazilian driver Ayrton Senna jr. (later on I'll give you details) and someone from RL, but we will see who will be. As for livery we would like someone to create it for us. There are two options for livery: purple and black or something like Octan's white with green and red.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 17 Jan 2013, 18:16

pycku wrote:Then I'd like to enter for 2016 with Bulgarian team DSR. As for drivers, we may use fictional Brazilian driver Ayrton Senna jr. (later on I'll give you details) and someone from RL, but we will see who will be. As for livery we would like someone to create it for us. There are two options for livery: purple and black or something like Octan's white with green and red.

Real life drivers not allowed in F3RWRS. And Ayrton Senna Jr? Really? Have some creativity!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 17 Jan 2013, 18:17

pycku wrote:Then I'd like to enter for 2016 with Bulgarian team DSR. As for drivers, we may use fictional Brazilian driver Ayrton Senna jr. (later on I'll give you details) and someone from RL, but we will see who will be. As for livery we would like someone to create it for us. There are two options for livery: purple and black or something like Octan's white with green and red.

Real Life drivers are not allowed in this mate, the RWRS is for Fictional drivers

And if I were you, I'd avoid Ayrton Senna JR ....

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 17 Jan 2013, 18:19

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
pycku wrote:Then I'd like to enter for 2016 with Bulgarian team DSR. As for drivers, we may use fictional Brazilian driver Ayrton Senna jr. (later on I'll give you details) and someone from RL, but we will see who will be. As for livery we would like someone to create it for us. There are two options for livery: purple and black or something like Octan's white with green and red.

Real life drivers not allowed in F3RWRS. And Ayrton Senna Jr? Really? Have some creativity!

But okay, I'll work on a livery. I like purple and black, it's not something that's been done yet here I think. Any particular sponsors you'd like?

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 17 Jan 2013, 18:36

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:But okay, I'll work on a livery. I like purple and black, it's not something that's been done yet here I think. Any particular sponsors you'd like?

For purple/black livery I'd like Yahoo!, FedEX and Senna foundation as sponsors. If you can think of "Watermelon Company logo" it would be nice. Additinaly you can add Coca-Cola, if you like. These ones, combined with suppliers will be enough, i believe.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 17 Jan 2013, 19:10

pycku wrote:Then I'd like to enter for 2016 with Bulgarian team DSR. As for drivers, we may use fictional Brazilian driver Ayrton Senna jr. (later on I'll give you details) and someone from RL, but we will see who will be. As for livery we would like someone to create it for us. There are two options for livery: purple and black or something like Octan's white with green and red.

So where does this leave me in the waiting list, given that I expressed my wish to join this series before Pycku? :evil:

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Jan 2013, 19:12

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
pycku wrote:Then I'd like to enter for 2016 with Bulgarian team DSR. As for drivers, we may use fictional Brazilian driver Ayrton Senna jr. (later on I'll give you details) and someone from RL, but we will see who will be. As for livery we would like someone to create it for us. There are two options for livery: purple and black or something like Octan's white with green and red.

So where does this leave me in the waiting list, given that I expressed my wish to join this series before Pycku?

I don't know, TMLW only told me that I was directly behind Nuppiz. I think we should make waiting lists public anyway to avoid confusion.

Post by **Ataxia** » 17 Jan 2013, 19:15

It should be:

Nuppiz
Pi314159
Takagi_for_the_win
pycku

as far as I know. I think that the waiting list should be kept on the first page just to avoid any confusion...The RDS does that, you know...lol.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 17 Jan 2013, 19:19

pi314159 wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:So where does this leave me in the waiting list, given that I expressed my wish to join this series before Pycku?

I don't know, TMLW only told me that I was directly behind Nuppiz. I think we should make waiting lists public anyway to avoid confusion.

Yeah, that would be a good idea, and it would prevent forum users getting hacked with one another. And I am hacked off, given that free spaces in series' like this don't come around often, and I staked my claim to enter this before Pycku did. Now, I would be open to compromise however, given that I don't want to cause a sh*tstorm.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 17 Jan 2013, 19:28

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
pi314159 wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:So where does this leave me in the waiting list, given that I expressed my wish to join this series before Pycku?

I don't know, TMLW only told me that I was directly behind Nuppiz. I think we should make waiting lists public anyway to avoid confusion.

Yeah, that would be a good idea, and it would prevent forum users getting hacked with one another. And I am hacked off, given that free spaces in series' like this don't come around often, and I staked my claim to enter this before Pycku did. Now, I would be open to compromise however, given that I don't want to cause a sh*tstorm.

Foster's Good Call Racing and the Plus One Group support Edward Restov Jnr's endeavours to enter F3RWRS

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 17 Jan 2013, 19:33

Well, sorry, I didn't know you're there. I just asked if there's a waiting list, they told me no, so that is it. If I enter in 2016 it would be great, I won't make any tragedies if not. And I didn't want to jump ahead of you in the list, that's for sure.

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 17 Jan 2013, 19:43

Bob looking for a drive

American Bob Sampson is desperatly looking for a drive in 2016 after getting demoted from the Khanama team. Bob told Autosport today that he will be very happy to work with one of the teams on the waiting list

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 17 Jan 2013, 20:48

pycku wrote:Well, sorry, I didn't know you're there. I just asked if there's a waiting list, they told me no, so that is it. If I enter in 2016 it would be great, I won't make any tragedies if not. And I didn't want to jump ahead of you in the list, that's for sure.

Thats alright mate, apology accepted

So who gets in then? Me, Pycku, or an unholy combination of the pair of us?

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 17 Jan 2013, 20:54

Before we all get too angry, I was asleep. Ataxia's reserve list is correct and at this point it looks like NRE and Mazzacane will get full-time entries in 2016. I should put it on the first page, I'll do it when I get around to making a quick-link list like the old F1RWRS thread (there's only 4 teams on it, how hard can it be to remember it? :lol:

).

I'd also like to take this oppurtunity to ask what the hell is going to happen now that Restov Jr is an F1 driver, considering that he drove at Spa. Will it be a retcon or will we have another James Davies on our hands?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:06

the Masked Lapwing wrote:I'd also like to take this oppurtunity to ask what the hell is going to happen now that Restov Jr is an F1 driver, considering that he drove at Spa. Will it be a retcon or will we have another James Davies on our hands?

That in all honesty was a genuine mistake. I had completely forgotten about Restov Jnr's one off entry earlier when I started his F1 career. If you want to sanction him/me, I can't object, but I can assure you it was a genuine mistake.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:08

I think that the no real life drivers rule should apply to fictional drivers related to real drivers

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:23

eurobrun wrote:I think that the no real life drivers rule should apply to fictional drivers related to real drivers

As far as I'm aware, none of my drivers are?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:28

As I have a full season entry for 2016, which engines are available?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:40

Your drivers are OK, I was referring to something I think should be a rule

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:42

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I think that the no real life drivers rule should apply to fictional drivers related to real drivers

As far as I'm aware, none of my drivers are?

I'm pretty certain he was referring to pycku's 'Ayrton Senna Jr'.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:44

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I think that the no real life drivers rule should apply to fictional drivers related to real drivers

As far as I'm aware, none of my drivers are?

I'm pretty certain he was referring to pycku's 'Ayrton Senna Jr'.

This is copmletely correct, that's what I meant

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:48

eurobrun wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I think that the no real life drivers rule should apply to fictional drivers related to real drivers
takagi_for_the_win wrote:As far as I'm aware, none of my drivers are?
I'm pretty certain he was referring to pycku's 'Ayrton Senna Jr'.
This is copmletely correct, that's what I meant

And, for the record, I fully agree with you there.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:49

eurobrun wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:As far as I'm aware, none of my drivers are?

I'm pretty certain he was referring to pycku's 'Ayrton Senna Jr'.

This is copmletely correct, that's what I meant

Ah right, sorry

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:50

pi314159 wrote:As I have a full season entry for 2016, which engines are available?

I'll update the list before I start the new season, since I have a hunch a few engines may go unused, so I'll add some more to replace them.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 17 Jan 2013, 21:52

allright then, I didnt know that. I thought Chris Dagnall is related to Real life drivers (in his F1 career), so that is allowed. When I get an entry, I'll change that

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 17 Jan 2013, 22:17

I almost broke the rules, by suggesting that Benoit Voeckler and Frederic-Maxime Voeckler were related to cyclist Thomas Voeckler. But I think I got away with it

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 17 Jan 2013, 22:19

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:I almost broke the rules, by suggesting that Benoit Voeckler and Frederic-Maxime Voeckler were related to cyclist Thomas Voeckler. But I think I got away with it

Stramala, that reminds me, will the Fosters-Lancia partnership continue into next season? We're very happy with the engines and would like to continue using them

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 17 Jan 2013, 22:20

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:I almost broke the rules, by suggesting that Benoit Voeckler and Frederic-Maxime Voeckler were related to cyclist Thomas Voeckler. But I think I got away with it

Stramala, that reminds me, will the Fosters-Lancia partnership continue into next season? We're very happy with the engines and would like to continue using them

As long as that idiot Luke Knight doesn't go around making stupid decisions all season, and that you don't hire that MacDrage pillock at any point, then ok!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 17 Jan 2013, 22:25

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:I almost broke the rules, by suggesting that Benoit Voeckler and Frederic-Maxime Voeckler were related to cyclist Thomas Voeckler. But I think I got away with it

Stramala, that reminds me, will the Fosters-Lancia partnership continue into next season? We're very happy with the engines and would like to continue using them

As long as that idiot Luke Knight doesn't go around making stupid decisions all season, and that you don't hire that MacDrage pillock at any point, then ok!

I don't plan on letting that Scottish idiot within eyesight of our cars! :lol:

And after having a bad reaction to the negative press, Luke Knight won't do anything stupid again. At least, not as stupid as the whole Koczo fiasco...

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 17 Jan 2013, 22:53

pycku wrote:allright then, I didnt know that. I thought Chris Dagnall is related to Real life drivers (in his F1 career), so that is allowed. When I get an entry, I'll change that

Many of the early RWRS drivers had previous F1 careers (Dagnall, Daniel Melrose, Sammy Jones, Phoneix McAllister, Rhys Davies, etc, etc), but none are actually related to real-life drivers.

As things have progressed however, with the introduction of the feeder series, it's generally not as widely accepted anymore for drivers to come straight in from F1, but certainly not out of the question.

What isn't accepted at all is either real-life drivers themselves, or direct relations of them. No real reason for it, TMLW set that rule up when he started the F1RWRS and it's just stuck ever since.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 18 Jan 2013, 19:48

News has reached the Plus One Group that the promotional poster for next year's F3RWRS machine, the GC-02, has been leaked online...

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 19 Jan 2013, 00:26

I repeat in this thread that Octan Young Drivers wants their F1RDS-drivers (from Donkervoort) to continue with them, in F3RWRS.
Also, if anybody wants to make a striking livery for the Octan, feel free to do so.
I'm sure everybody is familiar with the Octan-Logo, the red and green parts on the car must be opposite on both cars. Additional sponsors will be Spa Barisart (Spa Red) on one car and Spa Marie-Henriette (Spa Green) on the other car.