F1 Rejects Nations Cup, Division B Race Up

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 27 Jan 2013, 02:03

Here is the Portugal livery I made, a heavily modified version of an old Portuguese A1GP car livery I found.

And here is the Indian livery, a modified version of the Force India livery.

Finally, here is the Italy 2 livery. I took some artistic license and added all of Italy's World Cup wins, and some Alitalia logos.Also, I'm still not sure which Belgian liery I should import; I can put specific numbers in for drivers but I don't know if I can do the names.

Post by **tommykl** » 27 Jan 2013, 07:10

If it's not possible, then just replace the names by a Belgian flag

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 27 Jan 2013, 23:05

Division B Cars Released!

The first test shots of the new Division B F1RNC cars have been released!

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 27 Jan 2013, 23:07

Hmmm... That Hungarian red turned into orange somehow. Now it looks like an Irish car! And I messed up the Hungarian flag; so it looks like an Italian car as well.

EDIT: Fixed.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 28 Jan 2013, 00:20

tristan1117 wrote:Hmmm... That Hungarian red turned into orange somehow. Now it looks like an Irish car! And I messed up the Hungarian flag; so it looks like an Italian car as well.

EDIT: Fixed.

Quick question. You have any idea who's doing the Tropico livery?

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 28 Jan 2013, 03:12

Wizzie wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Hmmm... That Hungarian red turned into orange somehow. Now it looks like an Irish car! And I messed up the Hungarian flag; so it looks like an Italian car as well.

EDIT: Fixed.

Quick question. You have any idea who's doing the Tropico livery?

No, I'm progressing through the Div. C carset before I get back to Div. A. When I come back around, I'll do the Tropico livery.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 28 Jan 2013, 05:27

And without further ado...

Division C Cars Released

Have fun telling these two apart.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 29 Jan 2013, 04:26

Division D Cars Released

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 29 Jan 2013, 09:00

Tristan, you may need to change the purple in the Korean car, because as I heard, GP2 doesn't like purple at all. The previews says it all.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 29 Jan 2013, 14:32

FMecha wrote:Tristan, you may need to change the purple in the Korean car, because as I heard, GP2 doesn't like purple at all. The previews says it all.

I know, but the ivory green looks fine.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 29 Jan 2013, 14:50

tristan1117 wrote:
FMecha wrote:Tristan, you may need to change the purple in the Korean car, because as I heard, GP2 doesn't like purple at all. The previews says it all.

I know, but the ivory green looks fine.

Did you ever get the Italia A livery? If not I need to ask Nuppiz for it...the Scuderia Alitalia car is perfect, it's the right colours and everything.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 29 Jan 2013, 16:05

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:Did you ever get the Italia A livery? If not I need to ask Nuppiz for it...the Scuderia Alitalia car is perfect, it's the right colours and everything.

Here here: http://www.paste.fi/file/13594755125764

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 29 Jan 2013, 16:21

Antonio Velazquez write:
I know that Asturia's flag is blue, Fernando, but this is a team for al Spain. There's no blue in the national flag.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 30 Jan 2013, 04:38

I've got an alternate plan that involves a Toyota F1 paint scheme if needed to separate from the Japanese A team by having Panasonic on the rear wing for sponsorship instead of the Honda.

Edited for problem solved.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 30 Jan 2013, 04:48

Onxy Wrecked wrote:I've got an alternate plan that involves a Toyota F1 paint scheme if needed to separate from the Japanese A team by having Panasonic on the rear wing for sponsorship instead of the Honda.

http://server.ibfriedrich.com/wiki/ibfw ... 0/I_01.png

I already found a different livery for the Japanese A Team. I mixed up the A and B team liveries in the previews, but that situation has been rectified. Also, the Spanish livery has been made more Spanish, I fixed some problems with the Super Aguri and I completed all four carsets today. I have to do some minor tweaks to driver values and test everything, but it looks like this'll get started by Wednesday or Thursday.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 30 Jan 2013, 05:40

tristan1117 wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:I've got an alternate plan that involves a Toyota F1 paint scheme if needed to separate from the Japanese A team by having Panasonic on the rear wing for sponsorship instead of the Honda.

http://server.ibfriedrich.com/wiki/ibfw ... 0/I_01.png

I already found a different livery for the Japanese A Team. I mixed up the A and B team liveries in the previews, but that situation has been rectified. Also, the Spanish livery has been made more Spanish, I fixed some problems with the Super Aguri and I completed all four carsets today. I have to do some minor tweaks to driver values and test everything, but it looks like this'll get started by Wednesday or Thursday.

I guess that means I don't have to worry.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 30 Jan 2013, 20:24

Division A Cars Released

That wraps up all the liveries. I will cobble together a preview column for tonight before the first race (Division A at Brands) begins.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 31 Jan 2013, 01:19

What I think is the Australia 1 car looks different to how I said

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 01:22

eurobrun wrote:What I think is the Australia 1 car looks different to how I said

Oh right, you're Australia 1. I should fix that. If you notice, Rhys Davies' Australia 2 car should be up to your expectations.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 31 Jan 2013, 01:26

tristan1117 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:What I think is the Australia 1 car looks different to how I said

Oh right, you're Australia 1. I should fix that. If you notice, Rhys Davies' Australia 2 car should be up to your expectations.

Yeah that would be good, thanks

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 01:47

F1RNC Preview

Division A: The Group of Death

Division A will likely be the most competitive division of the four. The four-car teams are filled with top-line drivers who are all trying to get into the Finals. All of the teams in this division have tried to pick drivers who aren't at each other's throats, but that won't stop new rivalries from emerging in the divisional round. The division includes seven F1/F1RWRS race winners: Sebastian Vettel, Daniel Melrose, Mark Webber, Phillippe Nicolas, Rosco Vantini, Dave Simpson and Douglas Mann. It also includes Tomo Kazama, the 2014 F3RWRS champion and the presumptive 2015 F2RWRS champ, Andy Priaulx (three-time WTCC champ), Bernd Schneider, four-time DTM champion, Salvatore Miccoli, the reigning F1RICS champ, living legend Gabriele Tarquini, and three-time F2RWRS winner Alberto Cara. Romain Grosjean is also in the division, leaving his personal dash of chaos in his wake. All in all, I've counted twenty-one major championship victories out of this impressive group (although two are virtual, 5 are "Melrose titles" and I'm not including Kazama's impending F2RWRS win). There is no doubt that Division A contains the most raw talent of the four groups, but the gulf of ability between the likes of Sebastian Vettel and Bjorn Ekdal is worrying. Sweden, Indonesia, China, Tropico and Japan 2 will have their work cut out to make it into the next round. It is also likely that one of the five major four-car teams will get snubbed from the Finals. I think it's going to be France, but what do I know? The next best guess would be British Crown Dependencies, but I have some irrational confidence in Douglas Mann for some reason.

Predictions
Overall Drivers' Winner: VETTELWINSLOL
Overall Team Winner: Italy 1
Teams that will advance: Australia 1, British Crown, Italy 1, Germany 2
Round Winners:
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Vettel
4. Vantini
5. Melrose
Reject of the Division: Yu Hiang-Hao

Division B: The Young Drivers' Showcase

When I was looking at this list, I was immediately struck by the glut of young talent in this division. Ralf Schumacher, age 40, is probably (no one knows The Stig's age) the oldest driver in this division! However, there are still a bunch of good drivers in this division. The mighty HWNSNBM, Pippa Mann, The Stig, David Koczo, Kay Lon and James Davies have all won F1/F1RWRS/F1RMGP races in the last few years. Other talented drivers include Cave Johnson, the 2014 ROLFS champion, Adrian Sutil, F3RWRS frontrunner Dan Greenlaw, Andrea Battani, Mirko Bosevic, David Neuberg, who is pulling a "Miroslav Klose" and ditching the Austrian team and one-time F2RWRS winner Tommy Nash. Still, few of these drivers have proven themselves to be top-line drivers. Gary Pacer, Victoria Desai and Conor Daly all definitely need another full season to mature. However, all this should amount to close and entertaining racing. Unfortunately, due to some questionable driver decisions from the North American teams, we won't see major North American stars like Daniel Moreno, Nicolas Steele, Collin Pratchett, Lance Vance or Vidal Reyna-Sanchez. In Asia, all eyes will be on the unified Korean team, a story that has received major media coverage in both Koreas.

Predictions
Overall Drivers' Winner: HWNSNBM
Overall Team Winner: Hungary
Teams that will advance: Hungary, UK 2, Germany 1, USA 1
Round Winners:
1. Pippa Mann
2. HWNSNBM
3. HWNSNBM
4. Neuberg
5. David Koczo
Reject of the Division: Marin Kolak

Divisions C and D will be up shortly.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 31 Jan 2013, 02:47

Japan 2 may have the driver talent to steal some strong finishes, but five groups of 4 leaves Japan 2 as the odd one out as the sixth best team.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 03:00

Division C: The European Madness Division

Expect to see some crazy racing from this Division. Jenson Button, Mark Dagnall, the Iceman and Rhys Davies make up the upper echelon of the division. Frank Zimmer, Checo Perez and Thomas De Bock comprise the middle class of the division. Everyone else is a totally unknown quantity. If we were to rank everyone's inconsistency on a graph, those seven would be at the bottom, then we'd hit Jari Kekkonen, Gordon Shedden, Sebastien Buemi, Marc Goossens, Bastiaan van Nieuwenhuijzen and Jean-Luc Schiller. After that, all bets are off. Ron Mignolet has been remarkably inconsistent for DGN this year. Ashley Watkinson and Jos the Boss are accident-prone. Valtteri Bottas and Robin Frijns haven't been that great in Formula 1 so far, although Frijns has some talent (obviously, I'm extrapolating). All the European Microstate drivers, the Bulgarian drivers, Pablo Galaz, Stoffel Vandoorne, Martin van der Maeyede and Nick Nurmester are totally unknown quantities. I can already see it. Djurov will qualify at Brands Hatch due to Galaz's ineptitude. Djurov starts last, makes his way up to 20th but spins out at Turn 1 and starts a chain reaction crash that takes out half the field. I'm nervous. As for the teams, the UK 1 team certainly drew an easy group with only Raikkonen, Australia 2 and De Bock as their main competitors. It appears that the commissioner drew the groups with stronger teams from the Netherlands, Mexico and Finland in mind. I have no idea what he was thinking. Did he think Mika Hakkinen would unretire? Did he think that Pieter Kickert or Jesus Plaza would be selected? We may never know.

Predictions
Overall Drivers' Winner: Mark Dagnall
Overall Team Winner: UK 1
Teams that will advance: UK 1, Australia 2, Belgium, Finland
Round Winners:
1. Kimi
2. Dagnall
3. Frank Zimmer
4. Dagnall
5. Perez
Reject of the Division: Pablo Galaz

Division D: The Weakest Link

If Division A is loaded with talent, Division D clearly drew the shortest straw in the driver lottery. Other than Fernando Alonso, there are no other top-line drivers in this group. The strongest overall team should be the Japanese outfit with Kamui Kobayashi, Takuma Sato, Hagane Shizuka and Hansuke Shioya, although F1RMGP standouts Yuji Ide and Hideki Noda were left in the cold. Spain has Alonso and Phoenix McAllister but Gene and Torrente are weak candidates at best (why no love for De La Rosa, may I ask

). Brazil has Nelson Piquet Jr. which discounts them from any team unity. Jalmerson da Cunha has some talent but he needs another year to mature. Why didn't Rubens Barrichello get the nod? I'm sure Robert Moreno and Antonio Pizzonia don't have anything better to do right now. I would have taken any of these guys over Piquet Jr.! It's also stunning that nobody called up Pedro Chaves to partner Daniel Martins at Portugal. Instead, they have been saddled with three mediocre drivers from the feeder series. Russia, Denmark and Austria are all middling teams, even if Austria does have the feared Alexander Wurz

. Could Wurz rig the whole field with a neurotoxin so that he can win every race? I wouldn't put it past him... Anyways, I hope the Pan-African team has a good showing. For the championship, Spain and Japan will likely run away with this one. USA 2 doesn't have the numbers to compete, although they will make things interesting. All the other teams will likely steal points from each other, leaving only two teams to advance from this group.

Predictions
Overall Drivers' Winner: Fernando Alonso
Overall Team Winner: Japan 1
Teams that will advance: Spain, Japan 1
Round Winners:
1. Fernando Alonso
2. Fernando Alonso
3. Fernando Alonso
4. Takuma Sato
5. Alexander Wurz

Reject of the Division: Catarina Lopes

Concluding Remarks: After all the love we expended on Luca Badoer in the JDD forum, how does he get snubbed in the F1RNC! What true F1 Rejects reader looks at the list of Italian drivers and says: "Enrico Bertaggia and Vicenzo Sospiri are better than Luca Badoer"????
The campaign to replace Bertaggia or Sospiri with Badoer at the Italy team begins now! You can still change it Mr. Lindsay! There's still time to let poor old Luca in! He has been overlooked for his entire career, and he has been tragically overlooked yet again! The Italian national team is not complete without Luca Badoer! This is the chance to give him the second comeback he deserves! He's already driving for SAAC in the F1RMGP!

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 31 Jan 2013, 03:19

Late switch for Sweden and Portugal
In a dramastic move Swedish Snow Racing and Iberian Lisbon has gone from youngsters to experince. In a tough move, Rickard Rydell has signed on for Sweden as he replaced Bjorn Ekdal. Some say this will be a shocker of a move as he will be 49 before entering. While over at Portugal, Tiago Monteiro will replace Catarina Lopes as he will prepare for the Off Season and the Tropican Grand Prix. Will this be a bad move or a once in a lifetime event for a chance for the manager.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 03:36

Preview Postscript

Drivers to Watch: Daniel Melrose, Mark Webber, Andy Priaulx, Douglas Mann, Alberto Cara, Rio Haryanto, Philippe Nicolas, Charles Pic, Sebastian Vettel, Bernd Schneider, Rosco Vantini, Gabriele Tarquini, Salvatore Miccoli, Tomo Kazama, Ragnar Larsen, Tommy Nash, Gary Pacer, HWNSNBM, Karun Chandhok, Andrea Battani, Kay Lon, Dave Neuberg, Dan Greenlaw, Cave Johnson, Conor Daly, Marin Kolak, Pippa Mann, The Stig, Marky Mark Dagnall and the Funky Bunch, Kimi, Bottas, Ron Mignolet, Sergio Perez, Pablo Galaz, the Bulgarians, Robin Frijns, Bastiaan van Nieuwenhuijzen, Nelson Piquet Jr., Jalmerson da Cunha, the Cyborg form Viborg, Kamui Kobayashi and his Banzai Buddies, Dave Anderson, Prince Walik (a good driver), WURZ (by the way, Wurz is number 107. If you square 7 and attach to the number, you get 1049, Marko Jantscher, Fernando Alonso, Phoenix McAllister, Diego Alvarez Torrente

Storylines to Watch: "Vettel vs. the World", "Can Australia 1 keep it together?", "Rosco Vantini vs. Tarquini, winner takes all", "Ragnar Larsen's big break", "I believe in Chalres Pic", "Korean Racing Partnership - Will it Last?", "Oh Canada...", "HWNSNBM", "Ralf's Redemption?", "American Hotshots", "Marin Kolak Arrives", "Can UK 2 keep it together?", "Marky Dagnall's Out to Prove Something", "the Iceman Cometh", "Ron-Ron Mignolet", "Pablo Galaz-who?", "European Microstates", "Bulgaria", "Jos the Boss vs. the Young Guns", "Nelson Piquet Jr.", "The Furious Four", "The Banzai Bunch", "Dave Anderson's Chip on his Shoulder", "Prince Walik is Back", "Wurz Case Scenario", "Fernando vs. Phoenix McAllister", "Badoer 2015"

Final Predictions:
Finals Drivers' Champion: Kimi Raikkonen
Team Champion: Italy 1, as long as they have Badoer

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 03:41

The Mysterious Editor at RejectSprint wrote:It seems our columns have more power over the grid than we initially realized. We criticized Ekdal and Lopes- and voila! They were taken out immediately! Anyways, we believe that Monteiro is a better driver than Lopes, but we point out that Cabral and Soares are even more unexperienced than Catarina! If our Badoer campaign is successful, that will be clean sweep!

In other news, please make all driver changes by 3:00 GMT. That gives everyone about twelve hours.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 31 Jan 2013, 04:20

Christ, I didn't want to be accused of nepotism or favouritism of some kind, but okay, I'll give him a drive. Sheesh...

Badoer replaces Bertraggia in the Italia A team. Bertaggia gets moved down to the B team, with Battani bumped out altogether.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 31 Jan 2013, 04:47

In my biased opinion that was a total mistake.

There are unconfirmed reports that Prince Walik has been banned from using the helmed made out of gold that he planned to use on saftey reasona

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 31 Jan 2013, 04:50

eurobrun wrote:In my biased opinion that was a total mistake.

Battani was not a choice I'd have made normally anyway. F1RWRS just has a much higher coefficient than other series, so even though he's average in F1RWRS that still gives him a better score than someone above average in a second tier series. But I've wanted a reason to not use him, and now I have one. Giancarlo Fisichella was also under consideration but I opted against it.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 31 Jan 2013, 04:56

He actually is quite fast in race conditions, his main problem is that he is a completely useless and inconsistent qualifier. He is a fair bit better than most of the drivers from the backmarker nations

adriojim · Post by **adriojim** » 31 Jan 2013, 05:00

Just one thing Tristan, can you change Team Mexico's livery red for green?

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 12:20

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
eurobrun wrote:In my biased opinion that was a total mistake.

Battani was not a choice I'd have made normally anyway. F1RWRS just has a much higher coefficient than other series, so even though he's average in F1RWRS that still gives him a better score than someone above average in a second tier series. But I've wanted a reason to not use him, and now I have one. Giancarlo Fisichella was also under consideration but I opted against it.

Three weeks ago, I would have considered this to be a mistake, but Battani has been awful since we (Boxtel) dropped back into pre-qualifying. He could have used a stint in the F1RNC to rebuild his confidence, but I understand why Italy wouldn't want to do that. In real life, Bertaggia would be a mediocre option but I will be using his F1RMGP stats so I agree with the decision.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 15:18

Alright, no more last-minute driver changes.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 31 Jan 2013, 15:27

tristan1117 wrote:Division B: The Young Drivers' Showcase

The mighty ... James Davies

I think that makes the first time anyone has ever complimented F1RWRS James Davies in any way. :lol:

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 31 Jan 2013, 16:29

I didn't add PdlR because Alonso is already game breaker for the division. Gene is in there for consistancy (even in the wrong side of the grid), McAllister is the best spanish ficcional driver and should do well alongside Nando and Torrente is in here because this is the Rejects Forum.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 31 Jan 2013, 16:32

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Division B: The Young Drivers' Showcase

The mighty ... James Davies

I think that makes the first time anyone has ever complimented F1RWRS James Davies in any way.

I don't think it is. Some people say, the editor of the F1RNC official blog is one of the other James Davieses...

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 16:40

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:Division B: The Young Drivers' Showcase

The mighty ... James Davies

I think that makes the first time anyone has ever complimented F1RWRS James Davies in any way.

I don't think it is. Some people say, the editor of the F1RNC official blog is one of the other James Davieses...

Grammatically, I intended "mighty" to only describe "HWNSNBM"". I suppose the adjective rolls over the commas then?

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 31 Jan 2013, 17:35

Qualifying: Division A
Brands Hatch - Dry

Vettel and Webber lock out the front row! Nothing special right? Vettel's qualifying prowess showed once again as he went out at the beginning of Q1, set the pole time and went back into the garage. Other than that, the whole field was remarkably close. Just three tenths separated Salvatore Miccoli in fourth and Romain Grosjean, who will line up eleventh. Rosco Vantini was disappointing in his national debut, qualifying last of the four Italy cars in fourteenth. Douglas Mann, Rydell, Andy Priaulx and Daniel Melrose were the surprises of qualifying; they will start fourth, fifth and sixth respectively. Bernd Schneider was the major disappointment, posting a time that was a full second slower than his teammate. Jason Hamilton was also nowhere to be found. Lastly, Peter Port and Rio Haryanto will sit out Sunday's race after both failed to qualify.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 31 Jan 2013, 17:42

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:I think that makes the first time anyone has ever complimented F1RWRS James Davies in any way.

I don't think it is. Some people say, the editor of the F1RNC official blog is one of the other James Davieses...

There's only two now - and they don't really like each other.

tristan1117 wrote:Grammatically, I intended "mighty" to only describe "HWNSNBM"". I suppose the adjective rolls over the commas then?

I dunno, maybe. That's just how I read it.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 31 Jan 2013, 18:03

Half my drivers in the top-6, not bad. But I am expecting, nay - demanding!, that Peter Port does what he is good at in F3RWRS, and charges through the field into the points in the race...