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Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 07 Feb 2013, 21:58

Sometimes everybody on this forum just needs a good slap on the face :roll:

This is really making arguments over nothing. I can understand things heaten up when you talk about politics or something like that. But it's just racing drivers. It is just not worth it to argue so seriously about it, unless you are actively involved with one of these persons, perhaps.
And all of us are guilty of it. Probably also me, so we're not going to point fingers (no vettel-pun intended).
Now everybody shake each other hands!

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 07 Feb 2013, 22:17

Mark Webber needs to switch to a foot clutch. What size shoe is he, I'll make him the pedal. Or maybe a knee activated one inside the bulkhead. Seriously, can he launch a car? My buddy bought the 2010, 2011, and 2012 review DVDS last week and loaned them to me this week. Webber cannot leave the line! As a Red Bull fan this is unacceptable. Might as well start from pitlane! And since Seb's starts, while good, aren't lights out, I say fire the clutch man! We're losing valuable WCC points here! We aren't dominating enough!

The above post is not to be taken seriously and is a vain and unfunny attempt to steer the topic back to happier places. But seriously, Webber is rubbish at starts.

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 07 Feb 2013, 23:10

I have an opinion! Can we all, as a fandom - and by that I mean beyond this forum, all F1 fans and journos and especially Lotus employees - get the bathplug over that "Leave me alone, I know what I'm doing" rubbish? Funny when Kimi said it, maybe still funny at the Brazilian GP, but now. No. Stop quoting it.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 08 Feb 2013, 07:49

GwilymJJames wrote:I have an opinion! Can we all, as a fandom - and by that I mean beyond this forum, all F1 fans and journos and especially Lotus employees - get the bathplug over that "Leave me alone, I know what I'm doing" rubbish? Funny when Kimi said it, maybe still funny at the Brazilian GP, but now. No. Stop quoting it.

Oh yes indeed to this. Lotus have wrung every possible giggle from this to the point where they've killed it. A little bit like Peter Kay and his 'Garlic Bread' - it was hilariously funny when it first broke but, 13 years later, Ive heard it so many times I cringe every time someone says it :evil:

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 08 Feb 2013, 08:55

One of the reasons why I detest off-season is fans start flinging poo at each other out of sheer frustration. Racing can's re-start soon enough.

This wrote:And all of us are guilty of it. Probably also me, so we're not going to point fingers (no vettel-pun intended).
Now everybody shake each other hands!

What he said.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 08 Feb 2013, 09:16

Well, three of us have just tried to change the flavour of this thread back to normal F1 ranting.

But now we're back to the same old same old.

You cant say we didnt try....

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 08 Feb 2013, 09:23

... Ahem.

I hope the Caterham is faster than it looks this year.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 08 Feb 2013, 09:36

Normal F1 Ranting, that can be done

I am slightly glad Caterham got rid of that yellow stripe down the nose, never really liked it for some reason

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 08 Feb 2013, 12:31

Web adresses on F1 liveries look bad. I'm looking at you, Lotus.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 08 Feb 2013, 12:33

Is it wrong that it's really bothering me that Force India are taking forever to name their second driver? (Even though I have an inkling it'll be Bianchi)

Post by **mario** » 08 Feb 2013, 12:54

James1978 wrote:Is it wrong that it's really bothering me that Force India are taking forever to name their second driver? (Even though I have an inkling it'll be Bianchi)

They are leaving it a little late by recent standards - the latest they can leave it, I believe, would be the end of this month, as they need to submit their named drivers, plus the reserve driver, to the FIA by the end of this month.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 08 Feb 2013, 13:23

James1978 wrote:Is it wrong that it's really bothering me that Force India are taking forever to name their second driver? (Even though I have an inkling it'll be Bianchi)

Its quite rejectful. If they're trying to whip up some interest by holding back it really isnt working.

Maybe nobody wants the drive

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 08 Feb 2013, 13:53

James1978 wrote:Is it wrong that it's really bothering me that Force India are taking forever to name their second driver? (Even though I have an inkling it'll be Bianchi)

Well, Campos/HRT took also forever to announce Karun Chandhok, so it's not like they aren't in good company in doing so. :lol:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 08 Feb 2013, 15:11

CoopsII wrote:
James1978 wrote:Is it wrong that it's really bothering me that Force India are taking forever to name their second driver? (Even though I have an inkling it'll be Bianchi)

Its quite rejectful. If they're trying to whip up some interest by holding back it really isnt working.

Maybe nobody wants the drive

Not nobody. I would want the drive, for instance!

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 08 Feb 2013, 17:28

pi314159 wrote:Web adresses on F1 liveries look bad. I'm looking at you, Lotus.

What about barf1.com thingy in BAR's car in mid 2000s?

And things in last page are just plain hot. :shock:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 08 Feb 2013, 21:59

CoopsII wrote:
James1978 wrote:Is it wrong that it's really bothering me that Force India are taking forever to name their second driver? (Even though I have an inkling it'll be Bianchi)

Its quite rejectful. If they're trying to whip up some interest by holding back it really isnt working.

Maybe nobody wants the drive

Either that or Di Resta and his enormous ego have convinced Mallya and co that they only need one driver for this year :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 08 Feb 2013, 22:03

Wizzie wrote:
CoopsII wrote:
James1978 wrote:Is it wrong that it's really bothering me that Force India are taking forever to name their second driver? (Even though I have an inkling it'll be Bianchi)

Its quite rejectful. If they're trying to whip up some interest by holding back it really isnt working.

Maybe nobody wants the drive

Either that or Di Resta and his enormous ego have convinced Mallya and co that they only need one driver for this year

Or, that as a future world champion, who has the talent to drive for McLaren or Ferrari but was ignored for no obvious reason, he will drive both cars simultaneously and finish both cars solidly in the midfield, despite having a car that should not be that high up on the grid?

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 08 Feb 2013, 22:13

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:Or, that as a future world champion, who has the talent to drive for McLaren or Ferrari but was ignored for no obvious reason, he will drive both cars simultaneously and finish both cars solidly in the midfield, despite having a car that should not be that high up on the grid?

I can see it now: "Paul di Resta and the Seven League Roller Skates"!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 08 Feb 2013, 22:16

dinizintheoven wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:Or, that as a future world champion, who has the talent to drive for McLaren or Ferrari but was ignored for no obvious reason, he will drive both cars simultaneously and finish both cars solidly in the midfield, despite having a car that should not be that high up on the grid?

I can see it now: "Paul di Resta and the Seven League Roller Skates"!

Sounds like a Motown group from the 60s! :lol:

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 08 Feb 2013, 22:27

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Either that or Di Resta and his enormous ego have convinced Mallya and co that they only need one driver for this year

Or, that as a future world champion, who has the talent to drive for McLaren or Ferrari but was ignored for no obvious reason, he will drive both cars simultaneously and finish both cars solidly in the midfield, despite having a car that should not be that high up on the grid?

Do you write Paul di Resta's posts on The F1 Slate?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 09 Feb 2013, 07:06

redbulljack14 wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:Or, that as a future world champion, who has the talent to drive for McLaren or Ferrari but was ignored for no obvious reason, he will drive both cars simultaneously and finish both cars solidly in the midfield, despite having a car that should not be that high up on the grid?

Do you write Paul di Resta's posts on The F1 Slate?

Yes.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 09 Feb 2013, 07:12

Shizuka wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:Or, that as a future world champion, who has the talent to drive for McLaren or Ferrari but was ignored for no obvious reason, he will drive both cars simultaneously and finish both cars solidly in the midfield, despite having a car that should not be that high up on the grid?

Do you write Paul di Resta's posts on The F1 Slate?

Yes.

Cut the crap and get straight to the point, Kimi.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 09 Feb 2013, 07:13

But Fernando told me that I can't get points in a Marussia

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 10 Feb 2013, 00:41

eurobrun wrote:But Fernando told me that I can't get points in a Marussia

Ooh, if only Marussias were still Virgins, i'd be able to give them their first points in more ways than one.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 10 Feb 2013, 00:52

redbulljack14 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:But Fernando told me that I can't get points in a Marussia

Ooh, if only Marussias were still Virgins, i'd be able to give them their first points in more ways than one.

Christ, Jenson, if I hear any more of that "Fernando is faster than you"...

Post by **Ataxia** » 10 Feb 2013, 15:07

Cynon wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:But Fernando told me that I can't get points in a Marussia

Ooh, if only Marussias were still Virgins, i'd be able to give them their first points in more ways than one.

Christ, Jenson, if I hear any more of that "Fernando is faster than you"...

If I had a bottle of Grey Goose for every time I heard that, my house would end up looking like an off-license...oh, wait, it already does!

I think Mr. Di Resta needs to lighten up a bit...I hope he likes Buckfast.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 10 Feb 2013, 16:03

as for point 7 Vettel won a race in a "Minardi" :lol:

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 10 Feb 2013, 18:57

I really hope Generic Team Brackley manages to come up with a good car and Hamilton wins a couple of races, just so I can sit back and watch half the Internet getting its knickers in a bunch trying to explain it away.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 10 Feb 2013, 19:04

CarlosFerreira wrote:I really hope Generic Team Brackley manages to come up with a good car and Hamilton wins a couple of races, just so I can sit back and watch half the Internet getting its knickers in a bunch trying to explain it away.

It's a very tricky situation for me. I grew to like Hamilton over the last couple of races. But he's basically racing for Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda (That's another two bad Austrians. What's wrong with you Austria, that you keep exporting such douchebags? I thought you'd given up on exporting the "not so fine" Austrians after that epic fail in the 1940's...). But I'm sure that Hamilton will return to McLaren one day. Perhaps when Button finally goes into retirement.

Disclaimer: Austria also had good exports. Like Mozart, Schwarzenegger or Gerhard Berger.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 10 Feb 2013, 21:18

Ferrarist wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:I really hope Generic Team Brackley manages to come up with a good car and Hamilton wins a couple of races, just so I can sit back and watch half the Internet getting its knickers in a bunch trying to explain it away.

It's a very tricky situation for me. I grew to like Hamilton over the last couple of races. But he's basically racing for Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda (That's another two bad Austrians. What's wrong with you Austria, that you keep exporting such douchebags? I thought you'd given up on exporting the "not so fine" Austrians after that epic fail in the 1940's...). But I'm sure that Hamilton will return to McLaren one day. Perhaps when Button finally goes into retirement.

Disclaimer: Austria also had good exports. Like Mozart, Schwarzenegger or Gerhard Berger.

Oh, Mozart was a douchebag too :lol:

But they also had Roland Ratzenberger, who is the proof that there are actually nice people in that country.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 10 Feb 2013, 23:02

This wrote:
Ferrarist wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:I really hope Generic Team Brackley manages to come up with a good car and Hamilton wins a couple of races, just so I can sit back and watch half the Internet getting its knickers in a bunch trying to explain it away.

It's a very tricky situation for me. I grew to like Hamilton over the last couple of races. But he's basically racing for Toto Wolff and Niki Lauda (That's another two bad Austrians. What's wrong with you Austria, that you keep exporting such douchebags? I thought you'd given up on exporting the "not so fine" Austrians after that epic fail in the 1940's...). But I'm sure that Hamilton will return to McLaren one day. Perhaps when Button finally goes into retirement.

Disclaimer: Austria also had good exports. Like Mozart, Schwarzenegger or Gerhard Berger.

Oh, Mozart was a douchebag too But they also had Roland Ratzenberger, who is the proof that there are actually nice people in that country.

There's also Alex Wurz. And who could forget Helmut Marko? Oh wait, he's a tosser.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Feb 2013, 08:34

What about Berger?

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 11 Feb 2013, 08:43

Shizuka wrote:What about Berger?

Id love one providing you can prove theres no horse in it.

And big Gerhard was mentioned earlier

Faustus · Post by **Faustus** » 11 Feb 2013, 12:19

According to the source of all knowledge, there have been 15 Austrian Formula 1 drivers and 4 of them died in a racing incident. bathplug odds for a budding Austrian F1 driver.

Post by **Ataxia** » 11 Feb 2013, 13:28

Faustus wrote:According to the source of all knowledge, there have been 15 Austrian Formula 1 drivers and 4 of them died in a racing incident. bathplug odds for a budding Austrian F1 driver.

That's awful!

And also, at least 4 have been in a serious incident; Lauda and Berger had large fires to contend with, Wendlinger had a large shunt at Monaco and Marko had that incident with the stone piercing his visor.

Furthermore, Ertl died in a plane crash.

This is not a lucky nationality.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 13 Feb 2013, 12:44

Can you really class Karl Oppitzhauser in there too? That would increase the percentage even more.

I've checked the list and the only Austrians not to have had a fatal accident or very serious injury AND unrejectified themselves are Alex Wurz and Christian Klien (and even he only JUST did it!!). :shock:

Post by **mario** » 13 Feb 2013, 16:37

James1978 wrote:Can you really class Karl Oppitzhauser in there too? That would increase the percentage even more.

I've checked the list and the only Austrians not to have had a fatal accident or very serious injury AND unrejectified themselves are Alex Wurz and Christian Klien (and even he only JUST did it!!).

And even then, Wurz had some pretty nasty shunts whilst he was a test driver, particularly when he was having to test the MP4/18 (I believe that he wrote off one chassis in a very heavy crash in testing which helped persuade McLaren to abandon development of that car).

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 13 Feb 2013, 18:49

mario wrote:
James1978 wrote:Can you really class Karl Oppitzhauser in there too? That would increase the percentage even more.

I've checked the list and the only Austrians not to have had a fatal accident or very serious injury AND unrejectified themselves are Alex Wurz and Christian Klien (and even he only JUST did it!!).

And even then, Wurz had some pretty nasty shunts whilst he was a test driver, particularly when he was having to test the MP4/18 (I believe that he wrote off one chassis in a very heavy crash in testing which helped persuade McLaren to abandon development of that car).

And there's Canada 1998 of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-j2I6JJkVw

ibsey · Post by **ibsey** » 13 Feb 2013, 21:36

AndreaModa wrote:
mario wrote:
James1978 wrote:Can you really class Karl Oppitzhauser in there too? That would increase the percentage even more.

I've checked the list and the only Austrians not to have had a fatal accident or very serious injury AND unrejectified themselves are Alex Wurz and Christian Klien (and even he only JUST did it!!).

And even then, Wurz had some pretty nasty shunts whilst he was a test driver, particularly when he was having to test the MP4/18 (I believe that he wrote off one chassis in a very heavy crash in testing which helped persuade McLaren to abandon development of that car).

And there's Canada 1998 of course:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-j2I6JJkVw

Which of course had just come after his nasty Monaco crash...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L3Z6YOn1oI

... where one of his countrymen had seriously injuried themselves only 4 years prior.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 14 Feb 2013, 00:46

Potentially useless fact of the day, while we're mentioning Austrian F1 drivers: I posted recently about messrs. Tarquini, Raphanel and Montermini, who all found testing jobs with supercar manufacturers (Maserati, Bugatti, Pagani). The current issue of Top Gear magazine has mentioned Karl Wendlinger as a driving instructor for those intending to drive Mercedes' SLS GT3. I never knew that before.