F1RWRS -- 2015 Season - ROTY voting!!!

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 13 Mar 2013, 10:15

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
Wizzie wrote:He'll find a way to win by 'only' 30 seconds in that crapbox of a car. With both Aeroracing cars failing to pre-qualify as you get the short straw of having both Scott AND Mackintosh

Meanwhile, I'd actually end up with a worse lineup than the one I already had! D Mann and M McFry. Not as good as Koczo/Fleet. I'd be so screwed in the Grand Reversal. But it'd be interesting to see what Dagnall could do in a Dofasco.

We'd have to drag him into qualifying I'm afraid, because Pre-Q would be an impossible task. Another thing is his race pace.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Mar 2013, 10:17

Aerond wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
Wizzie wrote:He'll find a way to win by 'only' 30 seconds in that crapbox of a car. With both Aeroracing cars failing to pre-qualify as you get the short straw of having both Scott AND Mackintosh

Meanwhile, I'd actually end up with a worse lineup than the one I already had! D Mann and M McFry. Not as good as Koczo/Fleet. I'd be so screwed in the Grand Reversal. But it'd be interesting to see what Dagnall could do in a Dofasco.

We'd have to drag him into qualifying I'm afraid, because Pre-Q would be an impossible task. Another thing is his race pace.

Or, we can have a free-for all pre-qualifying where the top 14 teams make it through to qualifying and the race, just for teh lulz

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 13 Mar 2013, 10:34

Wizzie wrote:Or, we can have a free-for all pre-qualifying where the top 14 teams make it through to qualifying and the race, just for teh lulz

That would be ok too; we may even rescue some cars from the previous two seasons (as there'd be still some spots open with a double Pre-Q session); how a 2013 FAT would fare against today cars??

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Mar 2013, 10:37

Aerond wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Or, we can have a free-for all pre-qualifying where the top 14 teams make it through to qualifying and the race, just for teh lulz

That would be ok too; we may even rescue some cars from the previous two seasons (as there'd be still some spots open with a double Pre-Q session); how a 2013 FAT would fare against today cars??

Can we chuck in the 2013 Flying Fox as well? And how will you allocate drivers for these guest teams?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 13 Mar 2013, 10:40

Or a "Rejects of RWRS" race, with the Trueba, CR, Horizon, SOTL and Virgin from 2013, Shonan, Tropico, Mecha and Mitie from 2014 and Simpson, Autodynamics and Dofasco from 2015, with all cars driven by "reject drivers" using the same definition as for real life F1 drivers.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 13 Mar 2013, 11:44

Phoenix wrote:Martin McFry is a very good driver, it's just so damn inconsistent. But everytime Foxdale has done something remarkable it was him at the wheel.

Of course, there were two big reasons why Douglas Mann remained in the other seat: 1. He is the brother of the team boss, Pippa Mann; 2. He is one of the few drivers to have been entered into every single round of F1RWRS...

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 13 Mar 2013, 12:07

Wizzie wrote:Can we chuck in the 2013 Flying Fox as well? And how will you allocate drivers for these guest teams?

Oh dear. Someone needs to read up on their F1RWRS history!

http://f1alternate.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Flying_Fish_Motorsports

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 Mar 2013, 10:42

Autosport wrote:Sunshine resigns James Davies for 2016

Sunshine announced today that they were resigning James Davies for 2016 after a less than successful season. Nevertheless, hopes were high within the team, hoping to keep stability which was absent during this season. "James is our main man and we very happy that he decided to stay with us for 2016. Obviously we want to repay his confidence by delivering a car which he can work with and move us forward where the Sunshine name should be", said João Lagos. With the resigning of James Davies and having already confirmed Daniel Martins, the team will also hoping to retain Yuko Katayama as a reserve driver felling that she still needs another year in F2RWRS.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 14 Mar 2013, 10:50

DanielPT wrote:
Autosport wrote:Sunshine resigns James Davies for 2016, to the surprise of nobody in the known universe

Let me fix that for you

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 Mar 2013, 11:06

Wizzie wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
Autosport wrote:Sunshine resigns James Davies for 2016, to the surprise of nobody in the known universe

Let me fix that for you

I never said it would be a surprise!

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 14 Mar 2013, 13:08

Yeah. Now, Daniel Martins? I suppose it's a stop-gap measure until Benoit Voeckler earns his Reject License :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 14 Mar 2013, 13:31

Phoenix wrote:Yeah. Now, Daniel Martins? I suppose it's a stop-gap measure until Benoit Voeckler earns his Reject License

And it shall be a great day when it comes.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 14 Mar 2013, 15:22

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Yeah. Now, Daniel Martins? I suppose it's a stop-gap measure until Benoit Voeckler earns his Reject License

And it shall be a great day when it comes.

We shall see about that. But I won't say never...

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Mar 2013, 06:40

Aerond, if it isn't too much hassle, could you tell us what engine manufacturers will be available for next year?

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 15 Mar 2013, 09:12

In regards to engines, can we keep our current engines or do we have to get new engines for the new system? If we have to get new engines, then I'm up the creek without a paddle as I'd planned to keep the engine and scrap the woeful chassis.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 15 Mar 2013, 09:31

I don't know the list of engines yet, but these will be for sure;

BMW
Gillet
Holden
Lancia
Audi
Ford
Renault
Pure-Hart

There'll be 11 or so, so you do the maths.

Engine change will be mandatory, but every team will get half credits of the cost of the current engine on top of their budgets.

You can keep your old chassis for as long as you want, but any teams changing chassis will have to build one.

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 15 Mar 2013, 09:39

Aerond wrote:
Engine change will be mandatory, but every team will get half credits of the cost of the current engine on top of their budgets.

You can keep your old chassis for as long as you want, but any teams changing chassis will have to build one.

Ah, bathplug, when I decided on this engine/chassis combination I'd planned to keep my current engine and spend most of the budget on a new chassis for next season. Now it looks like I'm all the way back to square 1, with possibly less credits then a team just starting out.

There's no way I'll be keeping the skip-bin special chassis for next season, there'd be no performance gain no matter what engine I'd put in :lol:

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 15 Mar 2013, 09:43

MinardiFan95 wrote:
Aerond wrote:
Engine change will be mandatory, but every team will get half credits of the cost of the current engine on top of their budgets.

You can keep your old chassis for as long as you want, but any teams changing chassis will have to build one.

Ah, bathplug, when I decided on this engine/chassis combination I'd planned to keep my current engine and spend most of the budget on a new chassis for next season. Now it looks like I'm all the way back to square 1, with possibly less credits then a team just starting out.

There's no way I'll be keeping the skip-bin special chassis for next season, there'd be no performance gain no matter what engine I'd put in

Even if you were able to keep your current engine you'd be doomed because the new engine list will reduce gaps between top and low end engines.

And same as tyres, I was thinking on introducing a free chassis and a free engine

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:03

Aerond wrote:I don't know the list of engines yet, but these will be for sure;
BMW
Gillet
Holden
Lancia
Audi
Ford
Renault
Pure-Hart
There'll be 11 or so, so you do the maths.

Thoses engines are not that rejectful, well apart from the Pure-Hart ones, the Ford and maybe Gillet...

This is F1Rejects World Racing Series and not F1, so I hope there will be more reject worthy engines to come... although maybe you could make the Lancia engine a rebadged customer Ferrari engine, the Holden a rebadged customer Chevrolet V8, the Audi a customer Lambo engine, etc :lol:

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:09

Life, HKS or MGN would be too rejectful maybe, but what about Subaru, Zakspeed and Motori Moderni ?

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:16

SuperAguri wrote:although maybe you could make the Lancia engine a rebadged customer Ferrari engine, the Holden a rebadged customer Chevrolet V8, the Audi a customer Lambo engine, etc

What you've just done is suggest that three works engines become rebadged customer engines. What should BMW be?

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:18

SuperAguri wrote:
Aerond wrote:I don't know the list of engines yet, but these will be for sure;
BMW
Gillet
Holden
Lancia
Audi
Ford
Renault
Pure-Hart
There'll be 11 or so, so you do the maths.

Thoses engines are not that rejectful, well apart from the Pure-Hart ones, the Ford and maybe Gillet...

This is F1Rejects World Racing Series and not F1, so I hope there will be more reject worthy engines to come... although maybe you could make the Lancia engine a rebadged customer Ferrari engine, the Holden a rebadged customer Chevrolet V8, the Audi a customer Lambo engine, etc

What I'm looking for is to let current teams keep their storylines with manufacturers if they want to.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:24

the Masked Lapwing wrote:What you've just done is suggest that three works engines become rebadged customer engines. What should BMW be?

As they still own the Marque, how about a Triumph engine? :p

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:37

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
SuperAguri wrote:although maybe you could make the Lancia engine a rebadged customer Ferrari engine, the Holden a rebadged customer Chevrolet V8, the Audi a customer Lambo engine, etc

What you've just done is suggest that three works engines become rebadged customer engines. What should BMW be?

Mini.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:39

SuperAguri wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:What you've just done is suggest that three works engines become rebadged customer engines. What should BMW be?

As they still own the Marque, how about a Triumph engine? :p

Rolls-Royce? Mini? Megatron?

Post by **Ataxia** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:53

Throwing some ideas out on possible customer rebadgings:

BMW (Mini)
Gillet
Holden (VXR/Opel)
Lancia (Fiat/Alfa Romeo)
Audi (VW/Lamborghini?)
Ford
Renault (Nissan/Infiniti/Dacia)

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 15 Mar 2013, 10:59

What are the chances of a return for in-house Prospec engines? :mrgreen:

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 15 Mar 2013, 11:06

Would it be possible for Gauthier to strike up a works deal with, say, Peugeot at some point?

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 15 Mar 2013, 11:37

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Would it be possible for Gauthier to strike up a works deal with, say, Peugeot at some point?

Yes, it will be possible;

and no rebadgin, please. It only mess up things for me.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 15 Mar 2013, 13:16

SuperAguri wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:What you've just done is suggest that three works engines become rebadged customer engines. What should BMW be?

As they still own the Marque, how about a Triumph engine? :p

I tried that in F2RWRS, and Wizzie didn't take kindly to it! :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Mar 2013, 14:28

Yeah, also, I'm not so big on people renaming Lancia engines to another Italian marque. It defeats the purprose. If an American team comes along, takes Lancia engines and wants to rebadge them as Chryslers, fine, and if an Eastern bloc team comes along and wants to rebrand them Zastavas, fine (This has already done that), then okay, but no Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Maserati stuff please...

Post by **Nuppiz** » 15 Mar 2013, 15:01

Wasn't there some talk about users on the waiting list controlling the tyre suppliers next season? If it's still going ahead, when are the tyre brands going to be assigned?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 15 Mar 2013, 15:25

Aerond wrote:I don't know the list of engines yet, but these will be for sure;

BMW
Gillet
Holden
Lancia
Audi
Ford
Renault
Pure-Hart

There'll be 11 or so, so you do the maths.

Engine change will be mandatory, but every team will get half credits of the cost of the current engine on top of their budgets.

You can keep your old chassis for as long as you want, but any teams changing chassis will have to build one.

Don't forget Daihatsu! :p

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 15 Mar 2013, 16:09

Nuppiz wrote:Wasn't there some talk about users on the waiting list controlling the tyre suppliers next season? If it's still going ahead, when are the tyre brands going to be assigned?

Very soon; It's one of the first tasks to take. But give me a break please! Season has just ended and there's still the NC races :lol:

Post by **Nuppiz** » 15 Mar 2013, 16:12

Aerond wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:Wasn't there some talk about users on the waiting list controlling the tyre suppliers next season? If it's still going ahead, when are the tyre brands going to be assigned?

Very soon; It's one of the first tasks to take. But give me a break please! Season has just ended and there's still the NC races

Oh, I'm not rushing you or anything. Just thought of asking because I hadn't heard of the plan in a while.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 15 Mar 2013, 16:13

pi314159 wrote:Life, HKS or MGN would be too rejectful maybe, but what about Subaru, Zakspeed and Motori Moderni ?

Nobody took Subaru engines. And Zakspeed and Motori-Moderni were turbos that were used in the DGNWINSLOL in 2014 (in case of Zakspeed) and Sunshine's only "good" season (in case of Motori-Moderni).

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 15 Mar 2013, 16:40

FMecha wrote:
pi314159 wrote:Life, HKS or MGN would be too rejectful maybe, but what about Subaru, Zakspeed and Motori Moderni ?

Nobody took Subaru engines. And Zakspeed and Motori-Moderni were turbos that were used in the DGNWINSLOL in 2014 (in case of Zakspeed) and Sunshine's only "good" season (in case of Motori-Moderni).

Well, given that it was DGNWINSLOL, I argue that being 3rd in the constructors final standings made it indeed good and not just "good". I don't contest though that this year was a bit, erm, rubbish although it could have been much worse.

Post by **tommykl** » 15 Mar 2013, 18:16

When you mean engine changes are mandatory, does that mean that I can get another engine that will still be a Gillet? Because I reached to power limit on this Judd too many months ago :lol:

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 15 Mar 2013, 18:22

tommykl wrote:When you mean engine changes are mandatory, does that mean that I can get another engine that will still be a Gillet? Because I reached to power limit on this Judd too many months ago

There will still be a Gillet engine available

But you can chose not to get it and get another one (no rebranding allowed).

By the way, I can confirm there'll be a Free chassis and a Free engine along with the Free tyres. But teams will only be able to chose one of the three.

Post by **tommykl** » 15 Mar 2013, 18:23

Aerond wrote:
tommykl wrote:When you mean engine changes are mandatory, does that mean that I can get another engine that will still be a Gillet? Because I reached to power limit on this Judd too many months ago

There will still be a Gillet engine available But you can chose not to get it and get another one (no rebranding allowed).

By the way, I can confirm there'll be a Free chassis and a Free engine along with the Free tyres. But teams will only be able to chose one of the three.

Does that mean that if I keep the Gillet engine, I'll keep the same hunk of crap I've had for the past three seasons?