The Junior Series Thread

Post by **Ataxia** » 23 Feb 2013, 22:48

pi314159 wrote:iSport is out of GP2.

http://www.motorsport-total.com/formels ... ga_from=bn
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/105684

Aye, and I'm wondering if they'll find a buyer in time for the season.

Also, Trident is running Frijns and Berthon in the upcoming GP2 Jerez test.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 04 Mar 2013, 21:13

iSport is replaced by a new team called Russian Time. The team isn't based in Russia, but in Oschersleben.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 04 Mar 2013, 21:22

pi314159 wrote:iSport is replaced by a new team called Russian Time. The team isn't based in Russia, but in Oschersleben.

That is the lamest team name I have ever heard!
But if they are testing Bacheta and Dillman then they clearly can afford to run some serious talent, both of those drivers have the potential to be in F1 one day.

Warren Hughes · Post by **Warren Hughes** » 04 Mar 2013, 21:43

Russian Time? They're going to be perpetually 2 hours ahead of the British teams?

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 04 Mar 2013, 22:13

pi314159 wrote:iSport is replaced by a new team called Russian Time. The team isn't based in Russia, but in Oschersleben.

Well, if they're calling themselves Russian, surely they would at the very least base themselves in Russia... :roll:

Hound55 · Post by **Hound55** » 04 Mar 2013, 23:46

JeremyMcClean wrote:
pi314159 wrote:iSport is replaced by a new team called Russian Time. The team isn't based in Russia, but in Oschersleben.

Well, if they're calling themselves Russian, surely they would at the very least base themselves in Russia...

That never stopped Marussia. Calling themselves an Anglo-Russian team is more of an excuse rather than a reason to be located in the UK.

Post by **Ataxia** » 04 Mar 2013, 23:50

They should try procuring some Burger King sponsorship, so they could become Burger Time...

Any team that has the resources to set up the car well and give Dillmann a chance has my blessing.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 04 Mar 2013, 23:55

JeremyMcClean wrote:Well, if they're calling themselves Russian, surely they would at the very least base themselves in Russia...

Hey, if Force India can get away with it, why can't Russia?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 04 Mar 2013, 23:58

darkapprentice77 wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Well, if they're calling themselves Russian, surely they would at the very least base themselves in Russia...
Hey, if Force India can get away with it, why can't Russia?

Easy. Is the owner Russian?

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 05 Mar 2013, 00:00

Phoenix wrote:Easy. Is the owner Russian?

Erm...yes?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 05 Mar 2013, 10:21

Russian Time? Not really a team name there. More of a slogan. Now, I wonder if they wanted to say team instead of time.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Mar 2013, 12:20

Ataxia [BacLettNinj] wrote:They should try procuring some Burger King sponsorship, so they could become Burger Time...

And don't hold back on the Dill, Man!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 05 Mar 2013, 12:20

JeremyMcClean wrote:Well, if they're calling themselves Russian, surely they would at the very least base themselves in Russia...

They are in East Germany, that's as good as Russia. :twisted:

Thank HWNSNBM there are no Ossis here.

I for my part think there can only be one proper sponsorship deal for this team though: ...

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 05 Mar 2013, 12:26

pi314159 wrote:iSport is replaced by a new team called Russian Time. The team isn't based in Russia, but in Oschersleben.

What? What kind of team name is that? I'm out of words.

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 05 Mar 2013, 16:52

I feel the need to point out that the team is not called Russian Time. It's called RUSSIAN TIME.

Divina_Galica · Post by **Divina_Galica** » 06 Mar 2013, 21:20

Ataxia [BacLettNinj] wrote:They should try procuring some Burger King sponsorship, so they could become Burger Time...

Any team that has the resources to set up the car well and give Dillmann a chance has my blessing.

Nah, they need to be sponsored by Miller Beers

DG

Post by **Ataxia** » 09 Mar 2013, 12:02

And now Dillmann is officially racing for Russian Time next season. Great news!

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 12 Mar 2013, 09:35

I hope RUSSIAN TIME's livery will be good - not something like JordanMidlandSpykerForceIndiaSahara's was in 2006.

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 12 Mar 2013, 10:58

Shizuka wrote:I hope RUSSIAN TIME's livery will be good - not something like JordanMidlandSpykerForceIndiaSahara's was in 2006.

It's quite dull:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Mar 2013, 11:34

Do Pål Varhaug or Vicky Piria have drives anywhere for next season?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 12 Mar 2013, 11:56

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:Do Pål Varhaug or Vicky Piria have drives anywhere for next season?

Pål Varhaug did tested for Hilmer at the last GP2 test but he is still to be confirmed in GP2 this year. He could be making a comeback to GP2 after a rather successful year in AutoGP. As for Vicky Piria, she lost her seat at Trident last year and is still to find a drive this year. The bad news at this point is that she also failed to get a place in a GP3 test going on at the moment.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 12 Mar 2013, 12:10

Backmarker wrote:
Shizuka wrote:I hope RUSSIAN TIME's livery will be good - not something like JordanMidlandSpykerForceIndiaSahara's was in 2006.

It's quite dull:

Bathplug!

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 12 Mar 2013, 13:50

Backmarker wrote:
Shizuka wrote:I hope RUSSIAN TIME's livery will be good - not something like JordanMidlandSpykerForceIndiaSahara's was in 2006.

It's quite dull:

God almighty, that screams 'unoriginal' :roll:

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 12 Mar 2013, 16:19

JeremyMcClean wrote:God almighty, that screams 'unoriginal'

Here's a photo of the real thing:

Post by **Nuppiz** » 12 Mar 2013, 16:22

Oh dear. Even the 1990 Coloni (the non-Subaru one) looked more imaginative than that!

Post by **Ataxia** » 12 Mar 2013, 17:23

Backmarker wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:God almighty, that screams 'unoriginal'

Here's a photo of the real thing:

As long as they're quick, I don't care. Imagine if Robin Frijns joins them...that would be, like, the ultimate lineup in my book.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Mar 2013, 19:18

Ataxia [BacLettNinj] wrote:As long as they're quick, I don't care. Imagine if Robin Frijns joins them...that would be, like, the ultimate lineup in my book.

I would not read that book. It doesn't sound particularly good. Robin Frijns, sure, but Dillmann...will never amount to anything.

Now Frijns and Antonio Felix da Costa, that would be one hell of a freaking lineup. They'd destroy everyone in sight. No other team would stand a chance. Because in Soviet Russia, time runs out of you.

Post by **Ataxia** » 12 Mar 2013, 19:47

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
Ataxia [BacLettNinj] wrote:As long as they're quick, I don't care. Imagine if Robin Frijns joins them...that would be, like, the ultimate lineup in my book.

I would not read that book. It doesn't sound particularly good. Robin Frijns, sure, but Dillmann...will never amount to anything.

Now Frijns and Antonio Felix da Costa, that would be one hell of a freaking lineup. They'd destroy everyone in sight. No other team would stand a chance. Because in Soviet Russia, time runs out of you.

I'd agree with Da Costa, but also think that Dillmann has a lot of talent. Sure, he's not had the best results around in the junior categories but I think he definitely proved that he merits another go with a pretty impressive first few races. He was also super-quick in preseason; I'm hoping he can show that kind of speed in the season proper.

You might want to give "my book" a chance, at least.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 12 Mar 2013, 19:57

General rule: If you don't have very many sponsors, don't make it look obvious

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Mar 2013, 20:20

Ataxia [BacLettNinj] wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
Ataxia [BacLettNinj] wrote:As long as they're quick, I don't care. Imagine if Robin Frijns joins them...that would be, like, the ultimate lineup in my book.

I would not read that book. It doesn't sound particularly good. Robin Frijns, sure, but Dillmann...will never amount to anything.

Now Frijns and Antonio Felix da Costa, that would be one hell of a freaking lineup. They'd destroy everyone in sight. No other team would stand a chance. Because in Soviet Russia, time runs out of you.

I'd agree with Da Costa, but also think that Dillmann has a lot of talent. Sure, he's not had the best results around in the junior categories but I think he definitely proved that he merits another go with a pretty impressive first few races. He was also super-quick in preseason; I'm hoping he can show that kind of speed in the season proper.

You might want to give "my book" a chance, at least.

I sense an avatar bet...

Something along the lines of 'I bet da Costa wins an FR3.5 race before Dillmann wins a GP2 race' or something similar?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 12 Mar 2013, 20:40

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:I sense an avatar bet...

Something along the lines of 'I bet da Costa wins an FR3.5 race before Dillmann wins a GP2 race' or something similar?

That will be a short bet...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Mar 2013, 20:46

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:I sense an avatar bet...

Something along the lines of 'I bet da Costa wins an FR3.5 race before Dillmann wins a GP2 race' or something similar?

That will be a short bet...

My point exactly. Or is Ataxia brave enough to put both his and Dillmann's reputations on the line?

Post by **Ataxia** » 12 Mar 2013, 20:56

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:I sense an avatar bet...

Something along the lines of 'I bet da Costa wins an FR3.5 race before Dillmann wins a GP2 race' or something similar?

That will be a short bet...

My point exactly. Or is Ataxia brave enough to put both his and Dillmann's reputations on the line?

Depends on which avatar you have in mind...

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 12 Mar 2013, 21:32

Is Russian Time actually that decent?

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 13 Mar 2013, 02:24

JeremyMcClean wrote:General rule: If you don't have very many sponsors, don't make it look obvious

Just plaster a load of Cyrillic characters all over it and most of the world will think it's some Russian company nobody outside Russia has ever heard of. Solarcold will know, obviously.

Meanwhile, here's the same Mr Dillmann testing for Hilmer:

Does anyone else think there's just a hint of Mastercard Lola about that livery?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 13 Mar 2013, 07:08

dinizintheoven wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Meanwhile, here's the same Mr Dillmann testing for Hilmer:

Does anyone else think there's just a hint of Mastercard Lola about that livery?

Exactly my thought when I saw the picture. But it looks better without the white that Lola used.

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 13 Mar 2013, 09:09

JeremyMcClean wrote:General rule: If you don't have very many sponsors, don't make it look obvious

As with most GP2 teams, they need to sign the drivers to have the sponsors. Now they've signed Dillmann they'll at least have Stilo stickers on the car.

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 13 Mar 2013, 09:13

Our unofficial GP3 Reject of the Year has landed a ride for Bamboo Engineering. http://www.gp3series.com/News/2013/03_M ... gineering/

Jonny83 · Post by **Jonny83** » 13 Mar 2013, 16:27

One thing I've noticed from watching the GP2 races last year, and watching older ones in YouTube, in the first few years of the series, the cars had Renault branding on the engine covers, but looking at the past couple of years, they don't, even if as far as I'm aware they are still using the same Mecachrome-built engines. Have Renault silently pulled the plug on their support of the series (don't remember any news item on this), or is it to allow other manufacturers to be involved as sponsors if not engine suppliers without any branding conflict (I'm thinking Kiesa's "Peugeot" F3/F3000 cars here for example)

I know Renault have their FR3.5 series, but this was on the go in 2005 also, and if I remember rightly GP2's formation was partly a response to that categories' Nissan-branded predecessor kind of overtaking F3000 in the pecking order around 2002-ish (that year they had Wilson, Zonta, Montagny racing in it).

Backmarker · Post by **Backmarker** » 13 Mar 2013, 17:07

Jonny83 wrote:One thing I've noticed from watching the GP2 races last year, and watching older ones in YouTube, in the first few years of the series, the cars had Renault branding on the engine covers, but looking at the past couple of years, they don't, even if as far as I'm aware they are still using the same Mecachrome-built engines. Have Renault silently pulled the plug on their support of the series (don't remember any news item on this), or is it to allow other manufacturers to be involved as sponsors if not engine suppliers without any branding conflict (I'm thinking Kiesa's "Peugeot" F3/F3000 cars here for example)

I know Renault have their FR3.5 series, but this was on the go in 2005 also, and if I remember rightly GP2's formation was partly a response to that categories' Nissan-branded predecessor kind of overtaking F3000 in the pecking order around 2002-ish (that year they had Wilson, Zonta, Montagny racing in it).

GP2 cars definitely still use Mecachrome engines, but I'm not sure for how much longer. GP3 has changed from Mecachrome to AER with their new chassis, and with GP2 set to get a new chassis for 2014, an engine change might happen too. Not sure why the change was made in GP3.

Of course, Renault/Mecachrome don't actually supply engines for Formula Renault 3.5 either, as the series now uses Zyteks.