Reject Sponsors

[europeanminardi]

Fondmetal sponsoring Minardi in 2004-05? I missed that...

they were Minardi sponsors at some time, but not in the 04/05 seasons.
I'd rather say the 99/2000 season.

[David AGS]

Yeah, its definetly true for 2004:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/pic/1971 ... rth_4.html

A small Fondmetal logo on right of rear wheel, under sidepod fins. Same position as '05 car.

Not sure if direct sponsor, mabe just supplier.

[Aerond]

Fondmetal shouldn´t qualify as a reject sponsor, considering the huge amount of time it´s been around...

[Aerond]

Broker Magazine that was on the Sauber in the early races of 1994 didn't pay and had to be replaced by mid-season. They were lucky to escape the fate that Super Aguri had to face when SS United didn't pay them.

That gave birth to one of my fave F1 liveries ever; the 1994 Sauber Tissot;

[Barbazza]

Where does that Sauber live?

I'm not interested in it so much as the Zakspeed and 85 Benetton behind it. High quality reject cars!!

[Barbazza]

Sorry, that should be Toleman. Just about, by that stage...

[FMecha]

How about the Footwork company? Their brand appeared in the Arrows in 1990-93 and had their name in 91-96.

[Phoenix]

About this, I have a question...Was Footwork owning the team from 1994 to 1996, when their cars no longer had Footwork branding in their livery?

[Bleu]

What I can remember there was no referring to Arrows in 1992 or 1993, not sure of 1991 because I started really following F1 midway through the next year. But 1994-1996 there definately was.

[midgrid]

About this, I have a question...Was Footwork owning the team from 1994 to 1996, when their cars no longer had Footwork branding in their livery?

No, Jackie Oliver bought the team back, but the team and chassis were still technically called Footwork until 1997. I don't know why.

[FMecha]

On WTF1: 10 Ridiculous Motorsport Sponsors.

Most of them are reject worthy. And the Ueno Clinic's business made me virtually vomit.

[dr-baker]

On WTF1: 10 Ridiculous Motorsport Sponsors.

Most of them are reject worthy. And the Ueno Clinic's business made me virtually vomit.

They mention Durex and Viagra, but not Penthouse?

[Wallio]

Dodgy Mailk Ado Ibrahim. He never paid, apparently. His name was dirt around Arrows when I was there.

How about Moneytron, Jean-Pierre Van Rossem's company? Dodgy business, although he managed to pay the bills regularly. He claimed that he had modelled the stock market and could predict and anticipate market trends.

I hate to say it, but those who make such bold claims and offer such suspiciously consistent returns often turn out to have some hidden secret. And considering that he later received a five year jail term for fraudulent dealing, I wonder if he was using the same trick as Madoff (i.e. a Ponzi scheme) - at the very least, the language and pattern of dealing bears a number of similarities.

Could be worse though - there is the case of Charles Zwolsman Sr., who has recently passed away in a Dutch jail. His son was briefly Lewis Hamilton's team mate in Formula 3, and Zwolsman Sr. happened to give Frentzen a break in the 1992 Le Mans (which is how Frentzen managed to revive his career and eventually made his way into Formula 1).
Unfortunately, Zwolsman Sr. happened to have a sideline in smuggling drugs - he has been in and out of Dutch jails since 1988 on drugs charges, and at time of death was serving a three year sentence for drug and weapon smuggling offences. http://adamcooperf1.com/2011/01/21/zwol ... ch-prison/

The reason that I'm bringing this up is because, given that Zwolsman Sr. happened to own a business entity (of dubious intentions), did he happen to sponsor any drivers (perhaps Frentzen) or teams at any point?

I worked for another extremely dodgy motorsport character, probably one of the dodgiest, Vic Lee. I was with Vic Lee Racing in the BTCC in 2001, when we were running 3 Peugeot 406 Coupes.
Vic received a 12 year sentence for smuggling drugs into the UK from Holland in the race transporters in 1993 (and apparently from the Macau Guia race). He was released in late 1999 for good behaviour and got back into racing. In 2000 he got back into the BTCC, running Peugeots. In 2005 Vic was convicted again of drug smuggling and got another 12 years. He's still in prison and is likely to do his full sentence.
He was an interesting character. Very knowledgeable about all aspects of motorsport and he race-engineered Dan Eaves' car (albeit with adult supervision from the technical director Geoff Kingston). He was unusual in that he regularly paid all of team's bills on time (probably because he was getting money from the drug smuggling). He built a really nice factory during 2001 near Coventry, purpose-built for racing. No idea what happened to that, as I haven't been back there since. We ran the cars out of a decrepit Peugeot subsidiary factory in Humber Road, close to the city centre.
I was doing my Masters at the time and I worked for Vic part-time as a design engineer and occasional race engineer of the 3rd car, for Aaron Slight. I also worked on the redesign of the Lexus IS200 that we were going to run in 2002, but I left at the end of the season and they ended up running the 406 again.

I seem to recall a similar scandel in IMSA racing during the early '90s. Guys running cocaine in the cars fuel cells or something wacky like that. Nothing in there officer, just some race cars.....

[Onxy Wrecked]

On WTF1: 10 Ridiculous Motorsport Sponsors.

Most of them are reject worthy. And the Ueno Clinic's business made me virtually vomit.

They mention Durex and Viagra, but not Penthouse?

Nor was Extenze mentioned. Extenze appeared in NASCAR and never paid up. Apparently reduced Joe Nemechek's two car NEMCO team down to one car and start and park status for a couple seasons and pretty killed off Robby Gordon Motorsports' NASCAR operation when Kevin Conway sponsored by the dead beat male "enhancement" drug was driving for the low budget teams.

[FMecha]

I seem to recall a similar scandel in IMSA racing during the early '90s. Guys running cocaine in the cars fuel cells or something wacky like that. Nothing in there officer, just some race cars.....

It happened in the 80s, I believe. Thus the backronym International Marijuana Smuggling Association was born

[Faustus]

I seem to recall a similar scandel in IMSA racing during the early '90s. Guys running cocaine in the cars fuel cells or something wacky like that. Nothing in there officer, just some race cars.....

It happened in the 80s, I believe. Thus the backronym International Marijuana Smuggling Association was born

That was the Whittington Brothers (Don and Bill), Randy Lanier and the John Pauls (Sr. and Jr.). The Whittingtons owned Road Atlanta at the time. It was marijuana.

[dinizintheoven]

On WTF1: 10 Ridiculous Motorsport Sponsors.
Most of them are reject worthy. And the Ueno Clinic's business made me virtually vomit.

SPAM

Everyone’s favourite ‘I’m not entirely sure what that is but I’ll eat it anyway’ meat product, SPAM, appeared on Lake Speed’s #9 NASCAR in 1995. Not content with the exposure gained, they retured again as a sponsor in 1997, this time for the #91 of Mike Wallace. Delicious.

Sacre Bleu! Ze Americans 'ave got in first wiz ze idea for un F1RMGP team! Zut alors avec beaucoup de stinkyweed!

[Salamander]

On WTF1: 10 Ridiculous Motorsport Sponsors.
Most of them are reject worthy. And the Ueno Clinic's business made me virtually vomit.

SPAM

Everyone’s favourite ‘I’m not entirely sure what that is but I’ll eat it anyway’ meat product, SPAM, appeared on Lake Speed’s #9 NASCAR in 1995. Not content with the exposure gained, they retured again as a sponsor in 1997, this time for the #91 of Mike Wallace. Delicious.

Sacre Bleu! Ze Americans 'ave got in first wiz ze idea for un F1RMGP team! Zut alors avec beaucoup de stinkyweed!

Just the one F1RMGP team?

[midgrid]

This thread reminds me of this classic British F3 crash video.

"The unfortunate Japanese driver's car - sponsored by Aeroflot! - is lifted out of the way."

[Onxy Wrecked]

It happened in the 80s, I believe. Thus the backronym International Marijuana Smuggling Association was born

That was the Whittington Brothers (Don and Bill), Randy Lanier and the John Pauls (Sr. and Jr.). The Whittingtons owned Road Atlanta at the time. It was marijuana.

I heard John Paul Sr. actually shot a man 5 times in that smuggling operation went to prison, got out, then a woman disappeared, and then John has been on the lam for a parole violation and hasn't been heard of for years.

[Jonny83]

About this, I have a question...Was Footwork owning the team from 1994 to 1996, when their cars no longer had Footwork branding in their livery?

No, Jackie Oliver bought the team back, but the team and chassis were still technically called Footwork until 1997. I don't know why.

I was just a teenager at the time and don't remember clearly, but I vaguely recall something to do with the FOCA TV money, all that stuff. The same reason we had the horrible "BMW Sauber Ferrari" in 2010, and why Brawn were ranked last the season before (with Bernie quoted as saying if they'd gone into the season as Honda (Honda-Mercedes....yuk) they'd have been ranked 9th as per the '08 standings).

Although none of this explains why exceptions were made for BAR/Honda/Mercedes, Jaguar/Red Bull, Toro Rosso, the renaming of the original Sauber team in 2006, Midland/Spyker/Force India, Marussia, Renault/"Lotus", Caterham etc. Or indeed why they did become Arrows in 1997 with no fuss.

[Sonic 06]

Wilux, who sponsored Minardi in 2004 but pulled out after the cars competed with a sponsorless livery in memory of John Walton at the British Grand Prix.

Who's john walton?

[Nuppiz]

Wilux, who sponsored Minardi in 2004 but pulled out after the cars competed with a sponsorless livery in memory of John Walton at the British Grand Prix.

Who's john walton?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=john+walton+f1