V8 Supercar League: Christchurch results

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 01 Dec 2012, 04:13

Anyone remember the V8 Supercars based championship I plan to run. Well, it is here. Sort of.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 01 Dec 2012, 04:27

First of all, can we have that co-driver rule abolished? Secondly, can we have both Dunlop Series and Main Game teams in the one category, if only for the sake of the ridiculously large grids at places like Bathurst? Finally, would we sourcing cars in the same way that the V8 teams currently do? (i.e. Teams like T8, FPR, SBR and the Walkinshaw group sourcing their own cars and the rest of the teams buying customer cars from those teams)

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 03 Dec 2012, 09:50

I've got a few questions in regards to how this series will be run:

Will it use a game (V8 Supercars 3, rFactor, etc) or a results generator (Xkoranate)?
What manufacturers can we choose, just Ford & Holden, or Nissan and Mercedes as well (or possibly even more manufacturers)?
Do we use real teams & drivers, or fictional drivers and teams (or a combination of both)?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:20

I was actually planning to run this with NR2003. I am not sure If i said this in the FORWSOGMM thread bit it will be set in 2011 so just Holden and Ford at first but new manufacturers will be gradually introduced in the future. All drivers and teams are real. Everything else is TBA at the monent.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:29

NR2003? That means 43 car grids, correct? If so, dis gon be gud. :mrgreen:

Now, all we need to do is wait for Kostas to take Walkinshaw and the fun will really begin. :lol:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:34

Wizzie wrote:NR2003? That means 43 car grids, correct? If so, dis gon be gud.

Now, all we need to do is wait for Kostas to take Walkinshaw and the fun will really begin.

HRT was always going to be mine from the whole time

And to be honest the grid will probably be capped at 30-32 for most of the season with one offs allowed for the big events.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:36

eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:NR2003? That means 43 car grids, correct? If so, dis gon be gud.

Now, all we need to do is wait for Kostas to take Walkinshaw and the fun will really begin.

HRT was always going to be mine from the whole time

And to be honest the grid will probably be capped at 30-32 for most of the season with one offs allowed for the big events.

I demand a full grid at Bathurst!

As long as the calendar includes Eastern Creek and doesn't visit Yas Marina, then I'm happy.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:40

eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:NR2003? That means 43 car grids, correct? If so, dis gon be gud.

Now, all we need to do is wait for Kostas to take Walkinshaw and the fun will really begin.

HRT was always going to be mine from the whole time

And to be honest the grid will probably be capped at 30-32 for most of the season with one offs allowed for the big events.

I'm guessing the big events will be Adelaide, Sandown, Bathurst and the GC, correct?

Speaking of the GC, I don't want any of this international co-driver crap. Instead, I want it as one 600km enduro around the original layout, just because I can. And also, could you please make Albert Park a championship round?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:42

The calendar will depend on what tracks are available. And there will be a full grid at Bathurst, possibly including an entry driven by me and Grovey in real life :mrgreen:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:43

eurobrun wrote:The calendar will depend on what tracks are available. And there will be a full grid at Bathurst, possibly including an entry driven by me and Grovey in real life

You mean that you two will end up with the 5th Kelly car? Now THAT I'll pay good money to see :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:45

eurobrun wrote:
Wizzie wrote:NR2003? That means 43 car grids, correct? If so, dis gon be gud.

Now, all we need to do is wait for Kostas to take Walkinshaw and the fun will really begin.

HRT was always going to be mine from the whole time

And to be honest the grid will probably be capped at 30-32 for most of the season with one offs allowed for the big events.

If you are going to comandeer the whole of Walkinshaw Racing I'm not going to bother entering...

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 03 Dec 2012, 10:52

Wizzie wrote:
eurobrun wrote:The calendar will depend on what tracks are available. And there will be a full grid at Bathurst, possibly including an entry driven by me and Grovey in real life

You mean that you two will end up with the 5th Kelly car? Now THAT I'll pay good money to see

That would make David Thexton look quick :lol:

I meant that we would drive the car on the game ourselves

And Kostas, you can have Walkinshaw Performance. I am only taking HRT

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 03 Dec 2012, 11:50

Not sure which team I'll manage in this... can't decide between FPR, SBR, DJR, Triple F or deciding to alter history by bringing Triple 8 back to Ford.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 03 Dec 2012, 14:10

MinardiFan95 wrote:Not sure which team I'll manage in this... can't decide between FPR, SBR, DJR, Triple F or deciding to alter history by bringing Triple 8 back to Ford.

I have a better idea...I take control of Triple Eight and plonk Fabrizio Giovanardi into a Holden full-time :mrgreen:

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 03 Dec 2012, 19:26

What season will you start this from?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 03 Dec 2012, 21:54

Samster wrote:What season will you start this from?

2011

And Giovanardi fulltime in a V8. That I would like too see

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 04 Dec 2012, 07:47

This would be my calendar to go on
Round 1: Clipsal 500
Round 2: Trading Post Perth Challenge
Round 3: Skycity Triple Crown
Round 4: Sucrogen Townsville 400
Round 5: Coates Hire Ipswich 300
Round 6: Winton
Round 7: Hamilton 400
Round 8: ITM Auckland 400
Round 9: L&H 500
Round 10: Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000
Round 11: Armor All Gold Coast 600
Round 12: Norton 360 Sandown Challenge
Round 13: Falken Tasmania Challenge
Round 14: Sydney Telsta 500

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 04 Dec 2012, 08:16

Matt121 wrote:This would be my calendar to go on
Round 1: Clipsal 500
Round 2: Trading Post Perth Challenge
Round 3: Skycity Triple Crown
Round 4: Sucrogen Townsville 400
Round 5: Coates Hire Ipswich 300
Round 6: Winton
Round 7: Hamilton 400
Round 8: ITM Auckland 400
Round 9: L&H 500
Round 10: Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000
Round 11: Armor All Gold Coast 600
Round 12: Norton 360 Sandown Challenge
Round 13: Falken Tasmania Challenge
Round 14: Sydney Telsta 500

Sandown simply HAS to have the 500 before Bathurst, not Phillip Island. They can have that Norton Challenge instead. I'd also say have Albert Park as a championship round after Adelaide, which can then be paired up with Winton as round three ahead of Perth and the three rounds above the 'Brisbane Line'.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 04 Dec 2012, 08:30

My calendar suggestion:

1 - Adelaide
2 - Albert Park
3 - Phillip Island
4 - Pukekohe
5 - Barbagallo
6 - Townsville
7 - Hidden Valley
8 - Winton
9 - Sandown 500
10 - Bathurst 1000
11 - Gold Coast 600
12 - Symmons Plains
13 - Eastern Creek
14 - Homebush

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 06 Dec 2012, 03:42

eurobrun wrote:The calendar will depend on what tracks are available. And there will be a full grid at Bathurst, possibly including an entry driven by me and Grovey in real life

I believe all current tracks are available except Hamilton, Townsville and Sydney Olympic Park. Oran Park is also available if you want to pretend it never closed down.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 07 Dec 2012, 20:39

I hereby express my interest in joining this.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 11 Dec 2012, 10:43

Seeing as the grid in this series would be larger than in real life, can BJR expand to four cars (2 works BJRs and two Britek cars) as I've just had some brilliant ideas for what I'm going to run for the series?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Apr 2013, 10:36

Over the past few days, I have been working on a personal pet project for GTR2... the end result is our very own V8 Supercar championship using a combined custom carset comprising of the 2008 and 2009 mods. While some of the finer points such as individual car performance are yet to be worked out, here's the preview to the 2009 season:

Full Time Entires
Triple 8 Race Engineering - MinardiFan95 - $2 million budget ($245k left)
#1 (Ford FG Falcon): Jamie Whincup
#888 (Ford FG Falcon): Craig Lowndes
Enduro Drivers: TBA/TBA

Toll Holden Racing Team - Eurobrun - $1.9 million budget ($445k left)
#2 (Holden VEII Commodore): Garth Tander
#22 (Holden VEII Commodore): Will Davison
Enduro Drivers: Mark Skaife/TBA

Sprint Gas Tasman Motorsport - SeedStriker - $1.2 million budget ($0k left)
#3 (Holden VEII Commodore): Jason Bargwanna
#51 (Holden VEII Commodore): Greg Murphy
Enduro Drivers: Gabriele Tarquini/TBA

Stone Brothers Racing - Grovey - $1.8 million budget ($1.050 million left)
#4 (Ford FG Falcon): Alex Davison
#9 (Ford FG Falcon): Fabian Coulthard
Enduro Drivers: TBA/TBA

Ford Performance Racing - WaffleCat - $1.9 million budget ($740k left)
#5 (Ford FG Falcon): Jorg Bergmeister
#6 (Ford FG Falcon): Steven Richards
Enduro Drivers: Alex Zanardi/Ben Collins

Jack Daniels Kelly Racing - FMecha - $1.6 million budget ($950k left)
#7 (Holden VEII Commodore): Todd Kelly
#15 (Holden VEII Commodore): Rick Kelly
Enduro Drivers: TBA/TBA

Team BOC BJR - Samster - $1.1 million budget ($250k left)
#8 (Holden VEII Commodore): Jason Richards
#12 (Holden VEI Commodore): Tim Slade
Enduro Drivers: Andrew Jones/Brad Jones

Walkinshaw Performance - Stramala - $1.2 million budget ($390k left)
#10 (Holden VEII Commodore): Shane van Gisbergen
#24 (Holden VEII Commodore): James Thompson
Enduro Drivers: Cameron McConville/Steve Owen

Perkins Motorsport - Ataxia - $1.6 million budget ($590k left)
#11 (Holden VEII Commodore): Mark Winterbottom
#16 (Holden VEII Commodore): Jack Perkins
Enduro Drivers: Fabrizio Giovanardi/Troy Bayliss

WOW Greg Murphy Racing - AustralianStig - $700k budget ($425k left)
#14 (Holden VEII Commodore): Paul Dumbrell
Enduro Drivers: TBA

Jim Beam DJR - Salamander - $1.7 million budget ($615k left)
#17 (Ford FG Falcon): Steven Johnson
#18 (Ford FG Falcon): James Courtney
Enduro Drivers: Mat Jackson/Craig Baird

Team Kiwi Triple F Racing - Darkapprentice77 - $500k budget ($425k left)
#021 (Holden VEII Commodore): Dean Fiore
Enduro Drivers: TBA

Fujitsu Britek Motorsport - East Londoner - $1 million budget ($475k left)
#25 (Ford FG Falcon): David Reynolds
#26 (Ford BF Falcon): Jason Bright
Enduro Drivers: Matt Neal/Yvan Muller

Garry Rogers Motorsport - TMLW - $1.1 million budget ($305k left)
#33 (Holden VEII Commodore): Lee Holdsworth
#34 (Holden VEII Commodore): Michael Caruso
Enduro Drivers: Taz Douglas/Warren Luff

Paul Morris Motorsport - Onyx Wrecked - $1 million budget ($136k left)
#39 (Holden VEII Commodore): Russell Ingall
#67 (Holden VEII Commodore): Ralph Firman
Enduro Drivers: Marcus Zukanovic/J.R. Fitzpatrick

Paul Weel Racing - Pi314159 - $600k budget ($475k left)
#50 (Holden VEI Commodore): Jonathon Webb
Enduro Drivers: Alexandre Premat

Rod Nash Racing - Takagi_for_the_win - $700k budget ($625k left)
#55 (Holden VEII Commodore): Tony D'Alberto
Enduro Drivers: TBA

Paul Cruickshank Racing - Vepe - $600k budget ($330k left)
#111 (Ford FG Falcon): Kayne Scott
Enduro Drivers: Mika Salo

Ford Rising Stars - Tristan1117 - $500k budget ($425k left)
#777 (Ford BF Falcon): Michael Patrizi
Enduro Drivers: TBA

Part-Time Entires
HSV Racing (HRT) - Eurobrun - Run using HRT's budget
#222 (Holden VEI Commodore): Mark Skaife
Enduro Drivers: N/A
Rounds Entered: 1, TBA

Thexton Motor Sport (Triple 8) - MinardiFan95 - Run using T8's budget
#88 (Ford BF Falcon): David Thexton
Enduro Drivers: TBA
Rounds Entered: 1, TBA

Garry Rogers Motorsport - TMLW - Run using GRM's budget
#35 (Holden VEI Commodore): N/A
Enduro Drivers: Max Wilson/Nathan Pretty
Rounds Entered: 11-13

A team uses its budget to pay the entry fees for each race weekend ($10k per weekend or $150k for an entire season; $5k per weekend or $75k for an entire season for single-car teams) and to pay for regular and enduro drivers (which offers regular drivers accept will be determined by Flaschenpost's patented decision making system while enduro drivers will be a free-for-all). A team earns $1000 for every point it scores under the old points system from 2003-2005. If I can figure out how to edit individual car performance, I'll add the option to buy car upgrades later in the year as well.

All drivers must be real drivers that would at least remotely consider driving a V8 supercar (Although that second criteria will be relaxed for enduro drivers). In addition, teams have the option to take up paydrivers, or in the case of teams like Britek, Greg Murphy Racing or Triple F, can enter their team boss in the car free of charge. But bear in mind, they will still consider attractive offers from other teams.

As far as part time entries go, each team will have the option between the older cars (BF Falcon or VEI Commodore) and each event will have a certain amount of wildcards depending on the grid limit for each track, up to a maximum of 40 entries. These will be announced on a round-by-round basis. The larger full-time teams such as T8 or HRT can also enter part-time cars, which will be eligible for championship points but not necessarily for prize money, as that will come from the two highest placed cars for each team on any given weekend.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:08

I will confirm that I will take HRT and put Tander and W Davison in the driving seats (staying true to 2009) and reserve Mark Skaife for one of the endurance seats. Also, can the bigger teams buy out one of the smaller teams in order to expand to two cars?

Grovey · Post by **Grovey** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:12

Can I take SBR? With Alex Davison and Fabian Coulthard driving?

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:15

I'll confirm GRM, with Holdsworth and Caruso in the cars. In accordance with traditional GRM policy, I'll leave announcing the endurance drivers until the week before the 500 :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:16

eurobrun wrote:I will confirm that I will take HRT and put Tander and W Davison in the driving seats (staying true to 2009) and reserve Mark Skaife for one of the endurance seats. Also, can the bigger teams buy out one of the smaller teams in order to expand to two cars?

You're gonna have to make offers to both Tander and Will Davidson, but Tander has a very high chance of staying at HRT as he feels happy there. Davidson might be an interesting case though but with enough money, he should be your second driver for next year. And yes, you can have the team boss as an enduro driver.

Grovey wrote:Can I take SBR? With Alex Davison and Fabian Coulthard driving?

SBR's all yours mate. But like with Eurobrun above, you're gonna have to make offers for your drivers.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:17

What is a reasonable price for the drivers?

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:18

I'll take Ford Performance Racing. I do not know much about V8 Supercars,so I'll just take the two drivers who I believe are good for me:Shane van Gisbergen and Mark Winterbottom

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:19

eurobrun wrote:What is a reasonable price for the drivers?

Using the defending champ Whincup as a benchmark of around $800-900k, I'd say around $700k for Tander and $600-650k for Davison should be enough to keep them both on board

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:20

That is what they will be offered then

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:28

I have no idea what I'm doing here, so I guess I'll just take DJR and hope I'm not too crap. As for drivers... I guess continuity is never too bad, so I'll try and secure James Courtney. For the other seat... well, Mat Jackson doesn't have anything lined up at the moment - despite, y'know, beating Jason Plato's works SEAT with his family-run BMW last year - so I'm gonna try and sign him, and hope he transfers well to V8s. What would be a reasonable offer for them?

EDIT: I'll offer James Courtney $650k, and Mat Jackson $200k

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:29

For the record, the first round of driver decisions will take place at 12:00pm GMT on Monday, April 22nd.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:29

I'd like to take charge of Walkinshaw Motorsport.

Dumbrell and Reynolds can f*** off, we're getting new drivers instead. We'll offer The Enforcer $250K and former BTCC champion James Thomposon $250K as well. Failing that, our backup choices are Fabian Coulthard at $150K, and then Jonathon Webb $100K as well.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:36

Another thought occurs:

Why do the Kellys have #11? Surely if Larry never gave up the game he'd keep it?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:41

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Another thought occurs:

Why do the Kellys have #11? Surely if Larry never gave up the game he'd keep it?

I don't understand this either. Even though Larry's RECs were #11 and #16, Perkins Racing indeed ran with #7 and #15 and Kelly Racing used #11 and #16. I still have no idea why, but that is exactly what happened.

Just because it doesn't make sense, doesn't mean it ain't so!

Post by **Ataxia** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:44

Much like Salamander, I'm going to be a bit of a headless chicken at this. However, I'll give it a damn good go...

I'll take Perkins Motorsport (because, well, Jack Daniel's!); and I'll drop in with my driver decisions in a bit when I've done some research.

EDIT: Right, so I'll offer $750k to get Craig Lowndes, and $450k for Fabrizio Giovanardi.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:48

Stramala wrote:
the Masked Lapwing wrote:Another thought occurs:

Why do the Kellys have #11? Surely if Larry never gave up the game he'd keep it?

I don't understand this either. Even though Larry's RECs were #11 and #16, Perkins Racing indeed ran with #7 and #15 and Kelly Racing used #11 and #16. I still have no idea why, but that is exactly what happened.

Just because it doesn't make sense, doesn't mean it ain't so!

Not quite. When Perkins and the Kellys came together, Perkins owned the #7 and #11, the Kellys had the #15 and #16 from the HSV Dealer Team. They swapped the #7 and #16 around so the Kellys could run the #7 and #15 as the Jack Daniel's Racing (one entity for point scoring purposes), while Perkins owned the #11 and #16 (AKA Kelly Racing).

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:55

As a Holden man, I'll manage Tasman Motorsport

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 15 Apr 2013, 12:51

I'm going to take Triple 8 and re-write history... that's right, they're staying a Ford team after the 2009 season!