F1RWRS -- 2015 Season - ROTY voting!!!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 24 Apr 2013, 18:14

Aerond wrote:Can somebody compile a list of all eligible drivers to a Reject License on 2016???

No problem. Give me two shakes and I'll have it up.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 24 Apr 2013, 18:41

REJECT LICENSE ELIGIBILITY

1.2.6a
Mark Dagnall
Rhys Davies
Rosco Vantini
Pippa Mann
Phillippe Nicolas
Daniel Moreno
Sammy Jones
Thomas de Bock
Martin McFry
David Neuberg
Barii Mori
Nicolas Steele
Mirko Bosevic
Aurelien Moll
Andrea Battani
Daniel Martins
Ron Mignolet
Shinobu Katayama
James Davies (F1RWRS)
Douglas Mann
Jari Kekkonen
Fredo Mestolio
Frank Zimmer
Ben Fleet
Danny van Rijkens
Ashley Watkinson
David Koczo
Poppy Whitechapel
Jean-Luc Schiller
Daniel Melrose
Nathanael Spencer
John Zimmer
Steven Mackintosh
Gia van Dycke
Kay Lon
Saeed al Faisal
Hagane Shizuka
Du Lei
Darren Older Jr
Nathan Scott
Hansuke Shioya
Damon Cannon
Marie Simon
Mitchell Macklin
Miko Fakkinen
Dave Simpson
Tomislaw Tajner
Markus van de Schoot
Alexey Buyvolov
Sebastian Groves
Dean O'Lauchlan

1.2.6b
Phoenix McAllister
Jack Christopherson
Jesus Plaza
Gary Cameron
Andrea Acuri
Collin Pratchett
Tommy Nash

1.2.6c
Resi Respati
Tristan Jung
Richie White
Jeroen Krautmeir
Simon Redman
Luca Pacchiarini
Dan BH

1.2.6d
Tomo Kazama
Nathan McKane
Benoit Voeckler
Adelaide Voeckler
Dean Melville
Daniel Melville

Don't know the rest, will need some assistance with this one.

1.2.6e
Renaldo Jimenez

Again, don't know all of them, will need some assistance.

1.2.6f
Bastiaan van Nieuwenhuijzen
Andrej Kremnicky
Jean-Vincent Albertini
Wouter Lamberigts
Michael Cameron
Terry Hawkin
Johannes Rueckert
Gregor Pascal
Alberto Cara
Alessandro Marchesi

1.2.6g
Dan Greenlaw
Jordan Davies
Eric Swerts
Marko Jantscher
Nathanael Cameron
Raul Souto Maior
Ryan Zimmer
Thomas Yorke
Carter Simpson

1.2.6h
Marcel Agyemang-Badu
Martyn Reitacher
Renato Bulku
Hiroto Tojo
Brucie Kibbutz
Cave Johnson
Sebastian Prost
Ólafur Ragnar Hannesson

1.2.6i
Salvatore Miccoli
Dave Anderson
Ken Ardaoglu
Vincenzo Sospiri
Andrea Bianchi

1.2.6j
Paul Jenkins
Jack Maddock

1.2.6k
N/A

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 24 Apr 2013, 19:06

Non accurate roadmap on future events:

* Chat session to answer any questions about 2016 rules (Should be this week)
* Arrangement of users who'll get the tyre manufacturer slots; and explain them the rules. (I'll try to make it for this week)
* Recalculation of driver stats (Next week)
* Decide market details (specially detailed engine manufacturer options) (Next week)
* Calculation of budgets and final market details (In two weeks time)
* Open Market (First chassis and engine, then tyres) (In about two-three weeks time)
* Decide final calendar (In about three-four weeks)
* Start Pre-Season (Final week of May-1st week of June)
* Start Season (One-Two weeks after final Pre-Season test)

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Apr 2013, 19:52

Aerond wrote:Non accurate roadmap on future events:

* Open Market (First chassis and engine, then tyres) (In about two-three weeks time)

With regards this, could you please give a minimum 7 days' notice, and have it open on a Saturday (or Wednesday/Friday evening) please? Otherwise I fear I may have problems with being online at an appropriate time...

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 24 Apr 2013, 21:26

dr-baker wrote:
Aerond wrote:Non accurate roadmap on future events:

* Open Market (First chassis and engine, then tyres) (In about two-three weeks time)

With regards this, could you please give a minimum 7 days' notice, and have it open on a Saturday (or Wednesday/Friday evening) please? Otherwise I fear I may have problems with being online at an appropriate time...

In regards to this I feel that the free market should be done by email.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 24 Apr 2013, 22:38

Actually, Aerond, I noticed something not quite right with the regulations...

1.2.6 To qualify for a Reject Superlicencse in 2016, they must qualify under at least one of the following criteria:
a) Have participated in any race in the 2015 F1RWRS season;

This means drivers who did not make it past pre-qualifying or qualifying this year would be ineligible for a Reject Superlicense. Is this deliberate, or should the wording really be changed to "have participated in any race WEEKEND in the 2015 F1RWRS season"?

I would assume it is not deliberate given the presence of;

b) Have qualified for any race in the 2014 F1RWRS season

As, the consequence of a qualifying for a race is participating in said race. So I think the wording needs changed to avoid any kind of confusion...

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 24 Apr 2013, 22:56

Yeah, I agree that wording is wrong; it should say something like "Having attempted to Pre-Qualify for a race in 2015" or "Have entered an F1RWRS event in 2015"

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 25 Apr 2013, 16:17

This is the current waiting list:

2. Pasta_Maldonado (Plus One)
3. andrew
4. Nuppiz
5. Jeroen Krautmeir
6. WaffleCat
7. Ataxia
8. pi314159
9. roblomas52
10. pycku
11. Ben Purse
12. darkapprentice77

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There's 5 slots for tyre manufacturers; I'd like Pasta, andrea, Nuppiz, Jeroen and Wafflecat show up to confirm they're available to fulfill the slots; if any don't show up I'll send a reminder in a few days and then I'll wait until the end of next week to pass the slot to the next user on the list. Manufacturer choice is by list order, so Pasta will be the first to chose the manufacturer he wants to represent, andrew 2nd and so on.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 25 Apr 2013, 16:20

I call a chat session on Saturday at 10pm (Spain time) to talk about the new rules.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 25 Apr 2013, 17:10

Yep I'm here as always (as one of the most active PMMF members). Am I allowed to pick a manufacturer now, or should I wait until the new rules have been announced etc?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 25 Apr 2013, 21:35

Aerond, could I please be added to the waiting list?

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 25 Apr 2013, 22:23

Can I please be added to the Waiting list

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 25 Apr 2013, 23:19

pasta_maldonado wrote:Yep I'm here as always (as one of the most active PMMF members). Am I allowed to pick a manufacturer now, or should I wait until the new rules have been announced etc?

You can pick your manufacturer now if you wish (From Michelin, Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli or Dunlop). Rules will be sent via PM once I have all the slots asigned.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 25 Apr 2013, 23:28

Aerond wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Yep I'm here as always (as one of the most active PMMF members). Am I allowed to pick a manufacturer now, or should I wait until the new rules have been announced etc?

You can pick your manufacturer now if you wish (From Michelin, Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli or Dunlop). Rules will be sent via PM once I have all the slots asigned.

So that means Continental will be the free tyres then, correct?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 26 Apr 2013, 07:02

Aerond wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Yep I'm here as always (as one of the most active PMMF members). Am I allowed to pick a manufacturer now, or should I wait until the new rules have been announced etc?

You can pick your manufacturer now if you wish (From Michelin, Goodyear, Bridgestone, Pirelli or Dunlop). Rules will be sent via PM once I have all the slots asigned.

In that case I'll choose Michelin. Oui oui!

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 26 Apr 2013, 10:20

Aerond wrote:I call a chat session on Saturday at 10pm (Spain time) to talk about the new rules.

Won't be able to be there, but if there will be a chatlog available, I'll be fine with that too.
(offtopic, because this is not F1RWRS related: you got a reply in mail

)

Post by **Ataxia** » 26 Apr 2013, 11:13

I'll be there, just in case there's a non-shower (ie. Jeroen).

Post by **Nuppiz** » 26 Apr 2013, 19:48

I'm here, but I'll wait until andrew has made his choice before confirming mine.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 27 Apr 2013, 01:28

Unless I wake up abnormally early,I may only be able to attend the very last bit of the chat,if not at all.Still,I am interested in taking control of a tyre manufacturer.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 27 Apr 2013, 20:25

Rule discussion is now LIVE in the F1Rejects chatroom

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 27 Apr 2013, 20:43

pasta_maldonado wrote:Rule discussion is now LIVE in the F1Rejects chatroom

I'm too tired to participate. I'm just catching up on all the unread posts here, then I'm going to bed. Let me know if I miss anything important, like when the market opens...

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 27 Apr 2013, 20:44

dr-baker wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Rule discussion is now LIVE in the F1Rejects chatroom

I'm too tired to participate. I'm just catching up on all the unread posts here, then I'm going to bed. Let me know if I miss anything important, like when the market opens...

I'll post a log of the chat, but it'll be quite long I'm afraid...

Discussion Part 1
Discussion Part 2

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 27 Apr 2013, 21:12

pasta_maldonado wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Rule discussion is now LIVE in the F1Rejects chatroom

I'm too tired to participate. I'm just catching up on all the unread posts here, then I'm going to bed. Let me know if I miss anything important, like when the market opens...

I'll post a log of the chat, but it'll be quite long I'm afraid...

Discussion Part 1

Thanks. I'll read that and the rest tomorrow. G'night!

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 27 Apr 2013, 22:26

Interesting stuff, sorry for missing the chat guys, but thanks for pasting it Pasta, some interesting points made there.

I have to agree with Pasta and TMLW on the engine situation. I'm not comfortable with the engines being set at pre-determined levels based on 2015 without proper analysis being made. That said, Aerond makes a valid point that the number of variables increases this year with the changed driver statistics, as well as the tyres.

And speaking of tyres, Castrol Jones Racing have confirmed that it is likely that they will switch supplier from Goodyear, who have supplied Jones with tyres since the team were formed in 2011. Rumours that Sammy Jones has been spotted talking to Michelin representatives have been confirmed as correct, though whether a deal is in place or not remains to be seen.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 28 Apr 2013, 08:57

Current top engines, will be better, but more expensive to develop and smaller developments
Cheaper engines will be worse at base, but cheaper to develop and more significant upgrades

I still have questions.

The Lancia engine has not existed in F1RWRS yet. However, in both F2RWRS and F3RWRS it has been at the top for peak engine power. But the Ford powerplant I used last season was the most underpowered pile of crap in the whole sport. Where will the new for 2016 Lancia engine lie in this?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 28 Apr 2013, 09:15

I am half considering withdrawing as these rules are way too confusing for me. I have yet to decide either way at the moment.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 28 Apr 2013, 10:16

Stramala wrote:
Current top engines, will be better, but more expensive to develop and smaller developments
Cheaper engines will be worse at base, but cheaper to develop and more significant upgrades

I still have questions.

The Lancia engine has not existed in F1RWRS yet. However, in both F2RWRS and F3RWRS it has been at the top for peak engine power. But the Ford powerplant I used last season was the most underpowered pile of crap in the whole sport. Where will the new for 2016 Lancia engine lie in this?

Well, I can't really answer this question since I haven't prepared the stats yet. But those things will also be taken in consideration. However, don't expect to have a top engine just because F2 and F3 Lancia engines are top of the pops.

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 28 Apr 2013, 10:17

eurobrun wrote:I am half considering withdrawing as these rules are way too confusing for me. I have yet to decide either way at the moment.

And that's why I held the chat session yesterday and I want to hear any possible questions from team owners about the rules.

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 28 Apr 2013, 10:21

Aerond wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I am half considering withdrawing as these rules are way too confusing for me. I have yet to decide either way at the moment.

And that's why I held the chat session yesterday and I want to hear any possible questions from team owners about the rules.

I was asleep at the time

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 28 Apr 2013, 10:22

Aerond wrote:And that's why I held the chat session yesterday and I want to hear any possible questions from team owners about the rules.

Speaking of which, forgive me if I missed something but did you ever get around to explaining the new driver rules? I didn't see any mention of it in the chat logs.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 28 Apr 2013, 10:47

eurobrun wrote:
Aerond wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I am half considering withdrawing as these rules are way too confusing for me. I have yet to decide either way at the moment.

And that's why I held the chat session yesterday and I want to hear any possible questions from team owners about the rules.

I was asleep at the time

Wizzie wrote:
Aerond wrote:And that's why I held the chat session yesterday and I want to hear any possible questions from team owners about the rules.

Speaking of which, forgive me if I missed something but did you ever get around to explaining the new driver rules? I didn't see any mention of it in the chat logs.

I think another chat should be held.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 28 Apr 2013, 11:02

pasta_maldonado wrote:I think another chat should be held.

At a different time. I know it's difficult for Aerond, but the chat started at 6am for me (and 5:30 for eurobrun, so there's no way he was going to make it).

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 28 Apr 2013, 12:03

I'll be at the chat tonight at midnight Spain time

However, don't exclusively leave the questions to the chat; you can still send me as many PM as you need and you can also ask here.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 28 Apr 2013, 16:05

Stramala wrote:The Lancia engine has not existed in F1RWRS yet. However, in both F2RWRS and F3RWRS it has been at the top for peak engine power. But the Ford powerplant I used last season was the most underpowered pile of crap in the whole sport. Where will the new for 2016 Lancia engine lie in this?

OBJECTION! Well, not really...
You still ran away with the PQ title

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 28 Apr 2013, 16:53

Shizuka wrote:You still ran away with the PQ title

Yes, because out of all the Pre-Q brigade we had the best chassis and best drivers. You could see at Macau and Fuji, that with even a midfield engine, there would have been several points on the cards that year.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 28 Apr 2013, 16:59

Sorry, I missed the chat as well because I was away from home and didn't have a permanent internet connection at my disposal. Will be there tonight, though.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 28 Apr 2013, 18:33

Can someone tell me (in very brief details) what the new rules are? This way, I'll be prepared for the chat later today

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 28 Apr 2013, 18:47

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=5478

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 29 Apr 2013, 06:17

Did anyone save the chatlog??

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 29 Apr 2013, 07:00

Ok, now we've got there; it's time to nominate your ROTY!!!

Just vote your 3 candidates giving 3, 2 and 1 points each (the most the better). Team manager votes will be taken in account the most, but other users can vote as well, as well as I deserve the right to change the final positions. Team managers CAN`T give points to their own teams/drivers. So I can't vote anything related to DGNgineering, Dagnall, Shioya or Scott for example.
Voting will end at Sunday midnight, and results will be published inmediately afterwards