Another wiki!

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 09 May 2013, 18:30

JeremyMcLean, could you wave your magic wand and grant me with editing powers please? username- takagi

Post by **Ataxia** » 13 May 2013, 23:43

Just cleaned up the Tassie Racing page a bit; added a nice new logo there too.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 15 May 2013, 17:56

Thanks to whomsoever it was who whacked the new Restov logo on their page

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 May 2013, 19:21

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Thanks to whomsoever it was who whacked the new Restov logo on their page

That would be me

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 18 May 2013, 16:54

I have been thinking once again about the much needed redesign for the wiki front page. The main problem is resolution - what looks good on one person's screen, may look horrible on another. Mediawiki makes the page container fluid width, but AFAIK there is no way to make individual elements (i.e. tables) fluid width. This is quite a big flaw with MediaWiki, imo its biggest flaw. Whenever I look at the wiki at University, where I'm often on screens that are 2560x1440 in resolution, it looks horrible, with a gaping white space down the middle of the homepage. But as soon as I switch to a 4:3 screen, it also looks horrible, as with not enough width for tables to be displayed side by side, everything gets awkwardly stacked.

I guess my point here is - is my assumption about fixed width in MediaWiki incorrect, and there actually is a way to code fluid width tables in wiki markup language? Or does MediaWiki allow for HTML that would facilitiate fluid width tables?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 18 May 2013, 17:46

Stramala wrote:I have been thinking once again about the much needed redesign for the wiki front page. The main problem is resolution - what looks good on one person's screen, may look horrible on another. Mediawiki makes the page container fluid width, but AFAIK there is no way to make individual elements (i.e. tables) fluid width. This is quite a big flaw with MediaWiki, imo its biggest flaw. Whenever I look at the wiki at University, where I'm often on screens that are 2560x1440 in resolution, it looks horrible, with a gaping white space down the middle of the homepage. But as soon as I switch to a 4:3 screen, it also looks horrible, as with not enough width for tables to be displayed side by side, everything gets awkwardly stacked.

I guess my point here is - is my assumption about fixed width in MediaWiki incorrect, and there actually is a way to code fluid width tables in wiki markup language? Or does MediaWiki allow for HTML that would facilitiate fluid width tables?

Fluid width tables aren't that difficult to code, the question is, can you edit the html code on MediaWiki?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 18 May 2013, 18:29

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Fluid width tables aren't that difficult to code, the question is, can you edit the html code on MediaWiki?

Much HTML code I've tried in the past in MediaWiki hasn't worked, but I understand certain HTML elements are valid. Which of these I'm not sure of.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 19 May 2013, 18:23

Stramala wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:Fluid width tables aren't that difficult to code, the question is, can you edit the html code on MediaWiki?

Much HTML code I've tried in the past in MediaWiki hasn't worked, but I understand certain HTML elements are valid. Which of these I'm not sure of.

I'd imagine it's only the extremely basic elements you can edit in MediaWiki tbh

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 24 May 2013, 05:09

Making tables and the like in MediaWiki aren't that hard, but the main question should be what it should look like. I think there's a few too many series for the TMPedia main page layout to be ideal.

Honestly, I think what's there is fine, but it's begging to be reorganized and reordered a little bit.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 02 Jun 2013, 10:53

Hey guys,

I need some advice on how to structrure my team and it's many fingers in pies on the wiki. I could end up with one extremely long page, lots of small pages, or something inbetween.

The basic structure of the team is as follows;

IL BARONE RAMPANTE
The overall group responsible for all ventures in all canon series (and some non-canon!). Think of it as an umbrella where everything is contained within it.
Or is it? Because the Life GP team operated as only "Il Barone Rampante" and is historically linked to both Merzario GP and the real Il Barone Rampante.

SCUDERIA ALITALIA
The main team under the IBR group. F1RWRS, F2RWRS, formerly F3RWRS (2014) and Rejects of LFS (2014), F1RDS, Rallycross, GTRWC

Now, watch it get really tricky...

PARMA CORSE
Now defunct. Previously F3RWRS in 2015 only.

MASTERCARD LANCIA
Now defunct. Previously Rejects of LFS in 2015 only.

MASTERCARD LOLA
IndyCar team 2015 & 2016.

LAVEZZI IBR
2016 F3RWRS, IFRC & SARS.

ALSTOM GPE
2001 Prost GP as a totally seperate entity to Il Barone Rampante. Merged with IBR in 2002 to form Alstom IBR CART team.

MARTINI LANCIA RACING
2015/16 Super Touring Cup Team.

MARTINI NISSAN RACING
Works Nissan 1998 RTCC Team.

IBR ALSTOM ALFA ROMEO
Works Alfa Romeo 2015 & 2016 RTCC Team.

MERZARIO
1979 onwards rFAF1 team. Essentially the Genesis of IBR.

*Non-Canon*
SCUDERIA ALITALIA
REECCS...with Carsten Jancker, who is canon! Oh lawd...

SCUDERIA ALITALIA ANDREA COLONI
F1RMGP Team...which is 50% owned by Il Barone Rampante. Even though it isn't canon. Whut?

MARTINI RACING
Warped Touring Cars series...with Frederic-Maxime Voeckler and Alessandro Lucarelli, who are canon! Christ, what have I done?!

As you can see, this is a total bloody mess. How do I split up all this information in a clear and consice manner?!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 02 Jun 2013, 10:58

I'd say merge Parma Corse, Mastercard Lancia, and Mastercard Lola into the history of the Lavezzi page, while the Martini Lancia Racing, Martini Nissan Racing, and IBR Alfa Romeo could be merged to form some bastard lovechild of a omnipresent Touring Car conglomerate. As for the rest, I'd say leave it as it is for now.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 02 Jun 2013, 11:10

Wizzie wrote:I'd say merge Parma Corse, Mastercard Lancia, and Mastercard Lola into the history of the Lavezzi page, while the Martini Lancia Racing, Martini Nissan Racing, and IBR Alfa Romeo could be merged to form some bastard lovechild of a omnipresent Touring Car conglomerate. As for the rest, I'd say leave it as it is for now.

I think I might split into three main sections then;

Il Barone Rampante (organisation)
Scuderia Alitalia
Il Barone Rampante (constructor)

IBR (constructor) is essentially "Lavezzi" but without any sponsorship attached to it. Because every time "Lavezzi IBR" enters a series, the constructor name is "Il Barone Rampante". Whereas with Scuderia Alitalia, the constructor name is actually "Alitalia". So, if someday I were to end the IBR-Alitalia relationship in favour of a new sponsor, the Scuderia Alitalia page would rename to the new constructor name. Or something.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 02 Jun 2013, 21:05

And the wiki is down, conveniently enough when I was editing some of my Prost GP-related pages and probably have to do everything again.

The problem seems to affect Shoutwiki as a whole, because it's impossible to connect to their main page either.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 03 Jun 2013, 22:55

Now that F1Rejects is working again after being down for a bit over a day, here's more info about the Shoutwiki downtime: http://blog.shoutwiki.com/2013/06/recent-growth-pains/

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 04 Jun 2013, 00:33

At least it's better than the maintenance done by the Wikkii crew! Jeez

ryangregg12345 · Post by **ryangregg12345** » 04 Jun 2013, 14:55

Hello I want to report a big problem with the wiki. ShoutWiki has been undergoing a maintenance since yesterday morning and I'm getting irritated since I can't access it.

I think it's affecting everybody.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Jun 2013, 15:07

ryangregg12345 wrote:Hello I want to report a big problem with the wiki. ShoutWiki has been undergoing a maintenance since yesterday morning and I'm getting irritated since I can't access it.

I think it's affecting everybody.

Literally everyone in the known F1 Rejects universe is aware of this issue.

Thread relating to all F1R wiki matters
F1 Rejects Facebook update on downtime

Be patient and let the ShoutWiki admins finish updating the MediaWiki software.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 04 Jun 2013, 15:10

ryangregg12345 wrote:Hello I want to report a big problem with the wiki. ShoutWiki has been undergoing a maintenance since yesterday morning and I'm getting irritated since I can't access it.

I think it's affecting everybody.

Thread merged with the existing wiki thread. From now on, please report any issues here instead of creating a new topic.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 04 Jun 2013, 18:02

ryangregg12345 wrote:
I think it's affecting everybody.

I'm personally looking into counselling services to deal with how its affected me.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 04 Jun 2013, 18:49

Uh..... did the IRC Chat have a meltdown too or is it just me?

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 04 Jun 2013, 19:06

RealRacingRoots wrote:Uh..... did the IRC Chat have a meltdown too or is it just me?

Nope, it's everyone.

Nuppiz wrote:Looks like it's out of order as well. What is it with all of these services collapsing now?

E: yep, looks like it's down everywhere right now: http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/mibbit.com.html

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 05 Jun 2013, 13:59

ShoutWiki seems to be up now.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 06 Jun 2013, 00:35

I can confirm that, the F1 Alternate wiki is now up.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 06 Jun 2013, 17:15

I would like to get an approval on my shoutwiki profile to help. Username: AxelPutra

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 09 Jun 2013, 23:15

Sorry about the late response, I've been busy the past couple of days. The account is approved now.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 13 Jun 2013, 04:19

I finally registered. (same nickname) Can I get editing rights especially with my GP2 series.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 17 Jun 2013, 11:05

Just been on the wiki to sort a few things out for the new season of RWRS and noticed someone has very kindly updated all the result tables on the Kingfisher page. I was behind with it all and wasn't really brilliant at it so whoever you are, silent hero, I thank you.

Post by **Londoner** » 19 Jun 2013, 15:20

Now that my exams are over, I might have a go at writing up race reports for the F1RGP2C. Could I be given editing rights? Username's the same as on here.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 19 Jun 2013, 15:43

East Londoner wrote:Now that my exams are over, I might have a go at writing up race reports for the F1RGP2C. Could I be given editing rights? Username's the same as on here.

Editing rights given. I thought for a minute that I'd already given the rights to you. Very weird.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 10 Jul 2013, 21:17

I was bored and got down on virtual paper the idea I've had for ta revamp of the wiki front page.

The old design simply wont do anymore, now we've got a canon system in place for virtual series, it feels wrong that F1, F2, and F3RWRS get a lovely big box at the top of the page while all the other canon championships are at the bottom of the page.

Here's what I've come up with

Thoughts, opinions, and constructive criticism are all welcomed. Also, it is not a final, polished idea, and my wiki formatting may not be the best, but hopefully it's enough to express my ideas.

And for the eagle eyed EFR guys (hey that rhymes...) I did kinda get the idea from Cynon's TM Wiki.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 11 Jul 2013, 02:26

I'm starting to not like having the GTR banner in the calendar page and your test page being this deep red. (and no, I don't have a colour suggestion) I am imaging that there will be another series graph-overview-thing for non-modern canon and non-canon series. Otherwise, perhaps have the year by year overview in the centre rather than the left, and it looks good ta me!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 11 Jul 2013, 11:38

pasta_maldonado wrote:I was bored and got down on virtual paper the idea I've had for ta revamp of the wiki front page.

The old design simply wont do anymore, now we've got a canon system in place for virtual series, it feels wrong that F1, F2, and F3RWRS get a lovely big box at the top of the page while all the other canon championships are at the bottom of the page.

Here's what I've come up with

Thoughts, opinions, and constructive criticism are all welcomed. Also, it is not a final, polished idea, and my wiki formatting may not be the best, but hopefully it's enough to express my ideas.

And for the eagle eyed EFR guys (hey that rhymes...) I did kinda get the idea from Cynon's TM Wiki.

I'll be honest and say I don't like it. Full width does not look nice. But it's tricky to format a wiki in a manner that's not ugly because of the limitations presented by the markup languague.

I have been pondering for a very long time now how to do it. And I still haven't come up with a concrete idea, something that is concise in its display of information but also makes both current and previous seasons easily accessible. A lot of my times I have to abandon my ideas because MediaWiki simply doesn't support it.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 11 Jul 2013, 12:27

pasta_maldonado wrote:I was bored and got down on virtual paper the idea I've had for ta revamp of the wiki front page.

The old design simply wont do anymore, now we've got a canon system in place for virtual series, it feels wrong that F1, F2, and F3RWRS get a lovely big box at the top of the page while all the other canon championships are at the bottom of the page.

Here's what I've come up with

Thoughts, opinions, and constructive criticism are all welcomed. Also, it is not a final, polished idea, and my wiki formatting may not be the best, but hopefully it's enough to express my ideas.

And for the eagle eyed EFR guys (hey that rhymes...) I did kinda get the idea from Cynon's TM Wiki.

What exactly would you do with the Portal pages? And for the 2016 F1RICS season row, black backgrounds never really worked for anybody. The rest of the background colours looks good though. The formatting for the "Did you Know" Column is wrong, though - Do I have your permission to fix it up?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 11 Jul 2013, 12:38

Aerospeed [JerMcC] wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:I was bored and got down on virtual paper the idea I've had for ta revamp of the wiki front page.

The old design simply wont do anymore, now we've got a canon system in place for virtual series, it feels wrong that F1, F2, and F3RWRS get a lovely big box at the top of the page while all the other canon championships are at the bottom of the page.

Here's what I've come up with

Thoughts, opinions, and constructive criticism are all welcomed. Also, it is not a final, polished idea, and my wiki formatting may not be the best, but hopefully it's enough to express my ideas.

And for the eagle eyed EFR guys (hey that rhymes...) I did kinda get the idea from Cynon's TM Wiki.

What exactly would you do with the Portal pages? And for the 2016 F1RICS season row, black backgrounds never really worked for anybody. The rest of the background colours looks good though. The formatting for the "Did you Know" Column is wrong, though - Do I have your permission to fix it up?

Yes, anybody has my permission to change things. Any errors on the page are down to my limited knowledge of wiki ormatting.

As for the portal pages, it would work like the portal pages on wikipedia - with links to all past seasons, selected articles, an overview of the next event, a list of categories, etc

adriojim · Post by **adriojim** » 19 Jul 2013, 22:15

Hey guys, I'd like my account to be approved, since I've already created/edited some articles in the wiki before the approval thing. (User: adriojim)

Cheers.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 20 Jul 2013, 01:00

adriojim wrote:Hey guys, I'd like my account to be approved, since I've already created/edited some articles in the wiki before the approval thing. (User: adriojim)

Cheers.

Approved and all good now.

adriojim · Post by **adriojim** » 23 Jul 2013, 20:46

Thanks Aero!

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 27 Jul 2013, 01:11

Can someone try and improve on my dreadful attempts on the multiple races template

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 27 Jul 2013, 03:38

By the By Matt. I am giving you permission to post and update the points tables for the upcoming GT-R Season. Otherwise, ask before you do anything which may be related to my antics.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 27 Jul 2013, 06:49

Thanks even I though ask for someone to help with the Multiple Series race template, cause I am only going to try and create articles when the F2RWRS and F3RWRS are both at the same place. Much like GP2 and GP3. So you will see this template at

Australian Grand Prix
British Grand Prix
Italian Grand Prix
German Grand Prix
North Sea Grand Prix ?
Belgian Grand Prix ?
Japanese Grand Prix

? meaning I have no clue on the spilt weeks even they are at the same venue.