Ferrarist wrote:While I'd love to see DTM at the Nordschleife, it would only make sense as a support series to the Nürburgring 24 Hours. On any other weekend, 22 cars on such a long track would be boring for spectators (They cars would fly by just every 7-8 minutes) and maybe even TV viewers.
Yes, this I think is true. The Nordschleife doesn't have many passing spots and the action would be boring for the spectating point of view, seeing as the cars have to do 25 km before coming back to the particular site you'd be on.
darkapprentice77 wrote:If I was a racing driver, I'd rather win the Indy 500 than the Monaco GP.
The pay of the Daytona 500 is even more alluring than the Monaco GP. The problem is that Daytona is like the lottery. I third the notion of the Indy 500 as the Daytona 500 is too much of a lottery and Monaco is like racing in one's living room.
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darkapprentice77 wrote:If I was a racing driver, I'd rather win the Indy 500 than the Monaco GP.
The pay of the Daytona 500 is even more alluring than the Monaco GP. The problem is that Daytona is like the lottery. I third the notion of the Indy 500 as the Daytona 500 is too much of a lottery and Monaco is like racing in one's living room.
I agree with this. The Indy 500 I think is more prestigious as well, as it is (I think) the oldest motor race in the world.
Le Mans can and a lot of times is boring and in the end, the Germans almost always win.
darkapprentice77 wrote:If I was a racing driver, I'd rather win the Indy 500 than the Monaco GP.
If was a racing driver, I'd rather win the Le Mans 24 Hours than either the Indy 500 or the Monaco GP.
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darkapprentice77 wrote:If I was a racing driver, I'd rather win the Indy 500 than the Monaco GP.
The pay of the Daytona 500 is even more alluring than the Monaco GP. The problem is that Daytona is like the lottery. I third the notion of the Indy 500 as the Daytona 500 is too much of a lottery and Monaco is like racing in one's living room.
I agree with this. The Indy 500 I think is more prestigious as well, as it is (I think) the oldest motor race in the world.
Le Mans can and a lot of times is boring and in the end, the Germans almost always win.
The Indy 500 is the oldest of the three races in the Triple Crown, at the very least, although it did lose some of its lustre when the split in the US open wheel scene occurred (although I'd argue that was mainly because the US open wheel racing scene, as a whole, lost a chunk of its prestige when the split occurred, bringing down the races with it). You could kind of make a similar case for Le Mans - the problem is, in recent years Audi's dominance of the event has somewhat cheapened the value of victory there given the disparity between Audi's spending power and that of even other manufacturers. When Audi is possibly spending more than the rest of the field combined, it does raise the question of whether they are the best engineers or simply using their financial musclepower to steamroller the opposition (there are rumours that Audi is spending more than $125 million a year - by way of contrast, Toyota is rumoured to be running on about $40 million a year), and it does give some a sense that Audi have effectively bought their way to success.
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Really? You think that, or being controversial for the sake of it?
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Really? You think that, or being controversial for the sake of it?
Considering the amount he goes on about Andy Neate, there must be at lease some semblance of a man-crush there...
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Decent? If anything he is a load of crap with no driving etiquette on track. It seems he doesn't give a crap about others on the track and should be rightly penalized for them. What I just said is probably popular
So I'll give an unpopular opinion: Had Michael Schumacher had not been signed by Eddie Jordan, I think he had a potential in sportscars.
Really? You think that, or being controversial for the sake of it?
No I'm not lying at all. He's had more good moments than the likes of Chris James for example. My heart sank when he lost that podium at Brands Hatch in 2011 and when he dropped like a stone at Croft last year just when it looked like MG were going to get a 1-2. For all his faults about how he drives when his head is screwed on the right way he can deliver (3rd on the Grid at Oulton Park 2011 where he blew Tom Chilton into the weeds during that weekend springs to mind) I just wish he had his head on the right way more often so we don't remember him for being an absolutely clueless pay driver
Really? You think that, or being controversial for the sake of it?
No I'm not lying at all. He's had more good moments than the likes of Chris James for example. My heart sank when he lost that podium at Brands Hatch in 2011 and when he dropped like a stone at Croft last year just when it looked like MG were going to get a 1-2. For all his faults about how he drives when his head is screwed on the right way he can deliver (3rd on the Grid at Oulton Park 2011 where he blew Tom Chilton into the weeds during that weekend springs to mind) I just wish he had his head on the right way more often so we don't remember him for being an absolutely clueless pay driver
He dropped like a stone at Croft because he didn't have the talent to hold on to it. There is no reason why he could not have finished 2nd at the least that race other than his own lack of talent, given how Plato carved through the pack.
For me, that moment at Brands sums up Andy Neate perfectly. He's slow and a danger to everyone else on the track. And now that his team doesn't look like it's gonna go anywhere, I say good riddance to him. There are far better pay drivers available. Hell, even Liam Griffin.
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go_Rubens wrote:Had Michael Schumacher had not been signed by Eddie Jordan, I think he had a potential in sportscars.
I don't see how that is unpopular as he had already had one and a half seasons with the Sauber Mercedes in the World Sports Prototype Championship, including a race win?
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:He dropped like a stone at Croft because he didn't have the talent to hold on to it. There is no reason why he could not have finished 2nd at the least that race other than his own lack of talent, given how Plato carved through the pack.
For me, that moment at Brands sums up Andy Neate perfectly. He's slow and a danger to everyone else on the track. And now that his team doesn't look like it's gonna go anywhere, I say good riddance to him. There are far better pay drivers available. Hell, even Liam Griffin.
Well at least we can agree we would choose Neate to drive over Johnny Crashotto
go_Rubens wrote:Had Michael Schumacher had not been signed by Eddie Jordan, I think he had a potential in sportscars.
I don't see how that is unpopular as he had already had one and a half seasons with the Sauber Mercedes in the World Sports Prototype Championship, including a race win?
But I don't think Merc stayed in sportscars after '91, so someone else could have picked him up for '92. I don't think he won a championship, which is what I mean by potential. A driver who I think can win a championship has potential, which is what I mean by potential.
Johnny Crashotto, huh? Suits him perfectly. He's probably crashed more themes than Maldonado and Grosjean combined.
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:He dropped like a stone at Croft because he didn't have the talent to hold on to it. There is no reason why he could not have finished 2nd at the least that race other than his own lack of talent, given how Plato carved through the pack.
For me, that moment at Brands sums up Andy Neate perfectly. He's slow and a danger to everyone else on the track. And now that his team doesn't look like it's gonna go anywhere, I say good riddance to him. There are far better pay drivers available. Hell, even Liam Griffin.
Well at least we can agree we would choose Neate to drive over Johnny Crashotto
Even Brian Scott is better than Johnny Crashotto and Brian's the most crash prone NASCAR driver I've seen in a while although he has finally learned after four seasons that he can't drag a tenth place car to a win without crashing or gambling. The fact it took him four years to learn that tells you a lot about Brian Scott.
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Ok i've tried to argue that Neate is semi-decent but having watched that clip I must admit defeat and say that he is a crap driver. I was wrong on this occasion but that's OK
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:"Crashotto" isn't similar enough for it to make a good pun to me. A lot like Whine Bull.
Didn't we already have an argument on silly derogatory nicknames for drivers that weren't clever in the slightest? And agree that they, indeed, weren't clever?
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go_Rubens wrote:Had Michael Schumacher had not been signed by Eddie Jordan, I think he had a potential in sportscars.
I don't see how that is unpopular as he had already had one and a half seasons with the Sauber Mercedes in the World Sports Prototype Championship, including a race win?
But I don't think Merc stayed in sportscars after '91, so someone else could have picked him up for '92. I don't think he won a championship, which is what I mean by potential. A driver who I think can win a championship has potential, which is what I mean by potential.
Johnny Crashotto, huh? Suits him perfectly. He's probably crashed more themes than Maldonado and Grosjean combined.
My understanding, though, is that Schumacher, although quite competitive in sports car racing at the time, was a little stymied by the tendency of the cars to understeer at high speed (because the aero balance was shifted fairly rearwards on the cars at the time). The other point is his contract with Mercedes did have a clause that meant Mercedes had first call on his services if they entered F1, leading to a brief battle between Benetton and Sauber over who he would drive for. Had he not driven for Benetton he'd probably have still ended up F1, just a few years later and probably with Sauber and, later on, McLaren instead of Benetton and Ferrari.
Martin Brundle, on watching a replay of Grosjean spinning: "The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
go_Rubens wrote:Brian Scott is a slow learner, apparently.
Well, look at all those 30th or worse finishes when he had cars in the top 10 trying to get the win. Yes, those were mostly hard crashes into the wall or spins that took him a few laps down and made his car ill-handling. He's a NASCAR's de Cesaris in the Nationwide Series at this time. Just that de Cesaris didn't have the opportunity to be in top flight equipment once he learned not to overdrive the car.
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go_Rubens wrote:Brian Scott is a slow learner, apparently.
Well, look at all those 30th or worse finishes when he had cars in the top 10 trying to get the win. Yes, those were mostly hard crashes into the wall or spins that took him a few laps down and made his car ill-handling. He's a NASCAR's de Cesaris in the Nationwide Series at this time. Just that de Cesaris didn't have the opportunity to be in top flight equipment once he learned not to overdrive the car.
Well, there you go then. Scott over drives the car, I think.
Early ROTY candidate for IndyCar is Ganassi. They are pathetic this year.
go_Rubens wrote:Brian Scott is a slow learner, apparently.
Well, look at all those 30th or worse finishes when he had cars in the top 10 trying to get the win. Yes, those were mostly hard crashes into the wall or spins that took him a few laps down and made his car ill-handling. He's a NASCAR's de Cesaris in the Nationwide Series at this time. Just that de Cesaris didn't have the opportunity to be in top flight equipment once he learned not to overdrive the car.
Well, there you go then. Scott over drives the car, I think.
Early ROTY candidate for IndyCar is Ganassi. They are pathetic this year.
Will Power as well. For a 3 time runner up in Indycar's just 1 podium at the moment is atrocious
Kimi-ICE wrote:Will Power as well. For a 3 time runner up in Indycar's just 1 podium at the moment is atrocious
Not to mention his slide from pole to 17th in Iowa.
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:I think the cars they use in Indycar are incredibly ugly, especially when compared to F1 cars. I don't know how unpopular that is, but there you go
I like the look of the DW12
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:I think the cars they use in Indycar are incredibly ugly, especially when compared to F1 cars. I don't know how unpopular that is, but there you go
