The _TCC Series Thread

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 30 Jun 2013, 14:30

And Franz Engstler is running into a recovery vehicle yet again. He's not having any luck with the authorities, is he?
http://www.fiawtcc.com/videogallery/det ... y--vehicle

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 30 Jun 2013, 14:53

mediocre wrote:And Franz Engstler is running into a recovery vehicle yet again. He's not having any luck with the authorities, is he?
http://www.fiawtcc.com/videogallery/det ... y--vehicle

The irony. At least that time it was his own fault.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 30 Jun 2013, 15:55

The STCC (Swedish) is a joke of a series.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 30 Jun 2013, 16:27

Samster wrote:
mediocre wrote:And Franz Engstler is running into a recovery vehicle yet again. He's not having any luck with the authorities, is he?
http://www.fiawtcc.com/videogallery/det ... y--vehicle

The irony. At least that time it was his own fault.

Not 100% though, was it? He was closely following someone, who suddenly pulled out and around the recovery vehicle who should not have been there, and Engstler didn't have anywhere to go at such short notice...

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 30 Jun 2013, 20:20

dr-baker wrote:
Samster wrote:
mediocre wrote:And Franz Engstler is running into a recovery vehicle yet again. He's not having any luck with the authorities, is he?
http://www.fiawtcc.com/videogallery/det ... y--vehicle

The irony. At least that time it was his own fault.

Not 100% though, was it? He was closely following someone, who suddenly pulled out and around the recovery vehicle who should not have been there, and Engstler didn't have anywhere to go at such short notice...

Engstler claims he was hit by the car behind. Replay doesn't reveal it.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 30 Jun 2013, 21:23

Jocke1 wrote:The STCC (Swedish) is a joke of a series.

Is it because of the solution f cars?

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 02 Jul 2013, 17:09

Tough break.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 02 Jul 2013, 17:15

darkapprentice77 wrote:Tough break.

Sounds like this guy is the Paul Di Resta of the BTCC.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 02 Jul 2013, 17:23

Kimi-ICE wrote:
darkapprentice77 wrote:Tough break.

Sounds like this guy is the Paul Di Resta of the BTCC.

Yup. I will agree to that.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 02 Jul 2013, 17:28

Kimi-ICE wrote:
darkapprentice77 wrote:Tough break.

Sounds like this guy is the Paul Di Resta of the BTCC.

Why? He's perfectly justified in being dissatisfied with the team given that he's clearly well down the pecking order there - though it begs the question on what exactly he expected given that he was a complete unknown next to the very well-establish Tom Onslow-Cole and reigning Clio Cup champ Jack Goff.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 02 Jul 2013, 17:32

Salamander wrote:
Kimi-ICE wrote:
darkapprentice77 wrote:Tough break.

Sounds like this guy is the Paul Di Resta of the BTCC.

Why? He's perfectly justified in being dissatisfied with the team given that he's clearly well down the pecking order there - though it begs the question on what exactly he expected given that he was a complete unknown next to the very well-establish Tom Onslow-Cole and reigning Clio Cup champ Jack Goff.

And that mirrors what Di Resta wants. He feels that he's entitled to a top drive and while he's a good driver I don't mark him out as a great one. This is mostly what Cole feels. He feels as if he deserves a better car but what's he actually done to get noticed?

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 02 Jul 2013, 17:47

Kimi, have you seen the F1 Slate? http://www.thef1slate.com

di Resta keeps rambling on in his posts about how he'll smash all of the F1 records and how F1 will enter the di Resta era :lol:

And he doesn't bother to pay attention to the topic half the time :lol:

And Button's posts are funny as hell!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 02 Jul 2013, 18:19

Kimi-ICE wrote:
Salamander wrote:Why? He's perfectly justified in being dissatisfied with the team given that he's clearly well down the pecking order there - though it begs the question on what exactly he expected given that he was a complete unknown next to the very well-establish Tom Onslow-Cole and reigning Clio Cup champ Jack Goff.

And that mirrors what Di Resta wants. He feels that he's entitled to a top drive and while he's a good driver I don't mark him out as a great one. This is mostly what Cole feels. He feels as if he deserves a better car but what's he actually done to get noticed?

What the hell. Where the hell are you getting that from!? He never said he deserves to be at the top! All he said is that he needs better equipment and more experience to progress in the BTCC, which is exactly right! Running around in 20th in third-rate Team HARD equipment isn't getting him anywhere, and nor would it anyone else. Why do you feel the need to attribute words and qualities to him that he hasn't expressed?

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 02 Jul 2013, 18:22

Salamander wrote:
Kimi-ICE wrote:
Salamander wrote:Why? He's perfectly justified in being dissatisfied with the team given that he's clearly well down the pecking order there - though it begs the question on what exactly he expected given that he was a complete unknown next to the very well-establish Tom Onslow-Cole and reigning Clio Cup champ Jack Goff.

And that mirrors what Di Resta wants. He feels that he's entitled to a top drive and while he's a good driver I don't mark him out as a great one. This is mostly what Cole feels. He feels as if he deserves a better car but what's he actually done to get noticed?

What the hell. Where the hell are you getting that from!? He never said he deserves to be at the top! All he said is that he needs better equipment and more experience to progress in the BTCC, which is exactly right! Running around in 20th in third-rate Team HARD equipment isn't getting him anywhere, and nor would it anyone else. Why do you feel the need to attribute words and qualities to him that he hasn't expressed?

That's just what it felt that personally.

Then again i only came here mainly with F1 and Motogp experience and only 3 years of BTCC experience so that was a bit inevitable

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 02 Jul 2013, 19:00

Kimi-ICE wrote:That's just what it felt that personally. Then again i only came here mainly with F1 and Motogp experience and only 3 years of BTCC experience so that was a bit inevitable

I only started watching BTCC properly midway through 2011. Experience has nothing to do with it. You were just blindly attributing qualities to James Cole. That's a jackass thing to do, don't do it.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 02 Jul 2013, 19:05

Salamander wrote:
Kimi-ICE wrote:That's just what it felt that personally. Then again i only came here mainly with F1 and Motogp experience and only 3 years of BTCC experience so that was a bit inevitable

I only started watching BTCC properly midway through 2011. Experience has nothing to do with it. You were just blindly attributing qualities to James Cole. That's a jackass thing to do, don't do it.

I only get to see BTCC stuff once every 3 months :lol:

Goes to show that Motorsport in America is so centered on NASCAR of all things! ARGH!

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 03 Jul 2013, 04:58

So the main changes for next year in the WTCC are slowly leaking out. Something like 50 more horsepower (to about 380), 50 kilos lighter, 100mm wider cars, 100mm front splitters, taller rear wing (to be parallel to the roof line, like GTE), a Top 5 Q3 showdown, and all standing starts. But the big change is no BOP, but compensation weight remains.

Too bad BMW is leaving, otherwise they may have had a shot at winning races consistently for once. I cannot imagine the torque-steer and understeer the FWD contenders will have to deal with.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 03 Jul 2013, 18:23

Holy shite...

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 03 Jul 2013, 21:55

darkapprentice77 wrote:Holy shite...

Just when I thought Wrathall's season couldn't get any worse. What an idiot!

johnnyCarwash · Post by **johnnyCarwash** » 03 Jul 2013, 21:56

on a lighter note, I was amused to find this at my local tesco the other day :lol:

nome66 · Post by **nome66** » 04 Jul 2013, 01:33

where, oh where could i find one of those?
i'd like the URL because i assume no convenience store here in the states knows who that is or what drink that is.

EDIT: oh this is just gold. i'm buying those online.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 06 Jul 2013, 21:01

I've only just caught up with this thread.

BTCC is as good as ever (especially the last meeting with 0 MG wins) but WTCC is really starting to annoy me. BMW about to disappear - bad. Citroen arriving - hmmm, another dull manufacturer of extremely crap cars. Why? We already have Chevy.

Plus Martin Haven's extremely biased commentaries are getting on my tits. The guy clearly hates Tarquini (which is wrong on so many levels) and laughably tried to blame him for a first corner collision in the first race last weekend despite the fact that it was clearly Michelisz's Honda that was to blame. It's bright orange, which was a bit of a clue.

He also shouts down anything Harry Vaulkhard says, especially if it's about anything specifically related to how the cars / tyres / engines etc might be doing, despite the fact that he..um..drives racing cars for a living. He's a little bit more respectful when Matt Neal's the co-commentator, but only just. He used to be good but he needs to be retired.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 06 Jul 2013, 21:04

Barbazza wrote:I've only just caught up with this thread.

BTCC is as good as ever (especially the last meeting with 0 MG wins) but WTCC is really starting to annoy me. BMW about to disappear - bad. Citroen arriving - hmmm, another dull manufacturer of extremely crap cars. Why? We already have Chevy.

Plus Martin Haven's extremely biased commentaries are getting on my tits. The guy clearly hates Tarquini (which is wrong on so many levels) and laughably tried to blame him for a first corner collision in the first race last weekend despite the fact that it was clearly Michelisz's Honda that was to blame. It's bright orange, which was a bit of a clue.

He also shouts down anything Harry Vaulkhard says, especially if it's about anything specifically related to how the cars / tyres / engines etc might be doing, despite the fact that he..um..drives racing cars for a living. He's a little bit more respectful when Matt Neal's the co-commentator, but only just. He used to be good but he needs to be retired.

By the sounds of it the WTCC commentary is a bit like Legard/Brundle to some extent.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 06 Jul 2013, 21:10

Barbazza wrote:BTCC is as good as ever (especially the last meeting with 0 MG wins)

Hmm, I can understand why you would be happy with 0 Plato wins, but does that mean you would be unhappy with Tordoff winning? He seems like a nice bloke...

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 07 Jul 2013, 15:35

darkapprentice77 wrote:
Barbazza wrote:BTCC is as good as ever (especially the last meeting with 0 MG wins)
Hmm, I can understand why you would be happy with 0 Plato wins, but does that mean you would be unhappy with Tordoff winning? He seems like a nice bloke...

Yes, fair enough - he's done nothing to annoy me. Yet!

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 09 Jul 2013, 20:10

Last week, I had the chance to interview WTCC driver Fredy Barth. He claimed that the new regulations from 2014 onwards are a complete disaster. While 2014 is some sort of year of transition, there will barely be any cars on the grid in 2015 (only Citroen, Honda and Lada and they whill bring no more than four cars each).

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 10 Jul 2013, 15:22

Is it possible to make a 600hp dtm style touring car for less than £150,000?

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 25 Jul 2013, 12:22

Damn, it seems that Neate is finally gonna make it.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 25 Jul 2013, 13:33

Well it had to happen. Who knows maybe he'll make us look like fools if he does well before he puts a better driver in the car

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 01 Aug 2013, 14:54

Yep it's official: Neate is back

http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2013/ ... -44-debut/

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 02 Aug 2013, 09:47

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Yep it's official: Neate is back

http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2013/ ... -44-debut/

I just... I don't even...

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 02 Aug 2013, 18:33

AdrianSutil wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Yep it's official: Neate is back

http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2013/ ... -44-debut/

I just... I don't even...

The BTCC is heading to a disaster of biblical proportions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 02 Aug 2013, 22:16

RealRacingRoots wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Yep it's official: Neate is back

http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2013/ ... -44-debut/

I just... I don't even...

The BTCC is heading to a disaster of biblical proportions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3ZOKDmorj0

I come armed with papayas

Post by **Londoner** » 02 Aug 2013, 22:37

Rob Austin, proving that he does seem to be immortal.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 02 Aug 2013, 22:52

East Londoner wrote:Rob Austin, proving that he does seem to be immortal.

Holy... It does look like a bite to be honest, even though the guys in the interview are saying it might not have been. I love the image of him just strolling back to his hotel room, blood pissing out his leg and he's like "yeah, whiskey and a DIY stitching kit will be enough" :lol:

Proper geezer though...

Edit: looks like he smokes too, judging by his left hand. Don't know many racers that do nowadays.

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 03 Aug 2013, 18:48

Yeah, Rob seems like one of the good guys. He's going to be in Rush as well isn't he, as 'Brett Lunger'?

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 03 Aug 2013, 22:43

And in typical Neate fashion, he's the only driver to start behind a S2000 car.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 03 Aug 2013, 22:47

Dark77 wrote:And in typical Neate fashion, he's the only driver to start behind a S2000 car.

Well him and Warren Scott who is yet to set a representative time all weekend.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 04 Aug 2013, 05:42

Dark77 wrote:And in typical Neate fashion, he's the only driver to start behind a S2000 car.

Neate starts at the back? Oh god. Oh man oh god. No one's safe.

Place yet bets, how many people will Neate run into over the 3 races?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 04 Aug 2013, 05:54

RealRacingRoots wrote:
Dark77 wrote:And in typical Neate fashion, he's the only driver to start behind a S2000 car.

Neate starts at the back? Oh god. Oh man oh god. No one's safe.

Place yet bets, how many people will Neate run into over the 3 races?

8.4, no more, no less.