The 2013 Burning Hot Belgian Grand Prix Thread

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 24 Aug 2013, 13:19

And I missed qualifying because NBC Sports decided to air Arsenal and Fulham instead of quali (and I overslept). Awesome result for Caterham and Marussia.

girry · Post by **girry** » 24 Aug 2013, 13:29

Also have to praise the TV director. Caterham and Marussia, as deserved for the gamble they took, got a fair share of TV time - and their sponsors must love that

watka · Post by **watka** » 24 Aug 2013, 13:30

Van Der Garde in particular did a very good job out there, especially considering his monster shunt in practice. Will be interesting to see if he can come home ahead of one of the established teams.

I thought Rosberg was going to nab pole, I think his lap that was 0.5 seconds slower than Di Resta was probably the best of the day alongside VDG's 3rd place lap in Q1. As it was, Hamilton got a deserved pole and stole his thunder. I also thought Button was impressive throughout qualifying, consistently outperforming his car.

watka · Post by **watka** » 24 Aug 2013, 13:31

giraurd wrote:Also have to praise the TV director. Caterham and Marussia, as deserved for the gamble they took, got a fair share of TV time - and their sponsors must love that

They would, if Marussia actually had any sponsors...

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 24 Aug 2013, 13:33

Clearly, Max could hide his talent no longer ...

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 24 Aug 2013, 13:34

giraurd wrote:Also have to praise the TV director. Caterham and Marussia, as deserved for the gamble they took, got a fair share of TV time - and their sponsors must love that

Yeah. Its rare to see Marussia and Caterham showing in the screen. We saw an entire lap with Van Der Garde. Well Done TV director.

In other side, I can't say the same for Marshalls, who are showing blue flags for Marussia and Caterham in your flying laps.

watka · Post by **watka** » 24 Aug 2013, 13:36

Dj_bereta wrote:
giraurd wrote:Also have to praise the TV director. Caterham and Marussia, as deserved for the gamble they took, got a fair share of TV time - and their sponsors must love that

Yeah. Its rare to see Marussia and Caterham showing in the screen. We saw an entire lap with Van Der Garde. Well Done TV director.

In other side, I can't say the same for Marshalls, who are showing blue flags for Marussia and Caterham in your flying laps.

The Marussias were massively holding Hamilton up at times though, I was quite surprised Lewis wasn't on the radio to complain.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 24 Aug 2013, 14:23

watka wrote:
giraurd wrote:Also have to praise the TV director. Caterham and Marussia, as deserved for the gamble they took, got a fair share of TV time - and their sponsors must love that

They would, if Marussia actually had any sponsors...

http://youtu.be/6zXDo4dL7SU

girry · Post by **girry** » 24 Aug 2013, 14:30

No! I saw a sponsor in their car today. PDVSA has splastered their logo onto the nose.

(ermm......then, who exactly could that hint for the Marussia seat then...?)

Post by **Ataxia** » 24 Aug 2013, 14:41

giraurd wrote:No! I saw a sponsor in their car today. PDVSA has splastered their logo onto the nose.

(ermm......then, who exactly could that hint for the Marussia seat then...?)

It's there because of Gonzalez.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 24 Aug 2013, 17:25

watka wrote:The Marussias were massively holding Hamilton up at times though, I was quite surprised Lewis wasn't on the radio to complain.

He was probably swearing about them. "F**king, f**king Marussias!!! What f**king idiots!!!"

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 24 Aug 2013, 17:39

good_Ralf wrote:
watka wrote:The Marussias were massively holding Hamilton up at times though, I was quite surprised Lewis wasn't on the radio to complain.

He was probably swearing about them. "F**king, f**king Marussias!!! What f**king idiots!!!"

I'm sorry, but are you now asking us to stand up?
Is Hamilton really just a clone of JPM? Created in 06/07 so that JPM's genes would carry on inside the F1 paddock, even
though the original JPM went stateside to race with roofs instead.
Count me in on this theory... :shock:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 24 Aug 2013, 18:08

Jocke1 wrote:Count me in on this theory...

Well, it's no suprise if that were the case. I mean after the truth I learned regarding Jaime Alguersuari everything is possible.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 24 Aug 2013, 20:56

Klon wrote:
Jocke1 wrote:Count me in on this theory...

Well, it's no suprise if that were the case. I mean after the truth I learned regarding Jaime Alguersuari everything is possible.

Don't encourage him.... we will get a whole thread on how Alex Wurz cloned JPM and went back in time and imprenated Mrs Hamilton with the genes or some nonsense....

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 24 Aug 2013, 21:06

WeirdKerr wrote:Don't encourage him.... we will get a whole thread on how Alex Wurz cloned JPM and went back in time and imprenated Mrs Hamilton with the genes or some nonsense....

Sounds to me like you want to prevent the truth from coming out. You seem to know more than you're letting on, who are you really working for, WeirdKerr?
Are you a good guy or a bad guy?

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 24 Aug 2013, 21:18

Jocke1 wrote:
WeirdKerr wrote:Don't encourage him.... we will get a whole thread on how Alex Wurz cloned JPM and went back in time and imprenated Mrs Hamilton with the genes or some nonsense....

Sounds to me like you want to prevent the truth from coming out. You seem to know more than you're letting on, who are you really working for, WeirdKerr?
Are you a good guy or a bad guy?

My boss is very shadowy and does not like publicity, but I do believe he is on the good side...

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:23

BBC predicts rain but I can't see any.

Post by **tommykl** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:26

From 20km away from Spa, no rain right now, but the clouds are pretty menacing...

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:29

Spa is like Interlagos, it can change in a heartbeat.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:39

Greenpeace protestors at the track! On the grandstand roof and potentially gonna abseil down, shades of silverstone 2003?

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:40

sswishbone wrote:Greenpeace protestors at the track! On the grandstand roof and potentially gonna abseil down, shades of silverstone 2003?

Not to mention the microlight buzzing around. Bathplug off Greenpeace.

Post by **Londoner** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:43

Looks like Greenpeace are already making a case for ROTR. Absolute imbeciles, go away and protest something relevant for once. :evil:

S951 · Post by **S951** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:46

who else is looking forward for this?

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:46

Wtf? Is this national anthem attempting to recreate 'rock in rio' ?

Minardi Man · Post by **Minardi Man** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:51

You know Greenpeace, if you had just stayed at home you'd have saved wasting more fuel on the plane you used to get to spa.
Just a thought.

Post by **Londoner** » 25 Aug 2013, 11:52

With 10 minutes to go, join the rest of us in the chatroom for some cheerful times.

http://client00.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.mibbit.net&channel=%23F1Rejects

Post by **Londoner** » 25 Aug 2013, 12:07

Well, that's the race done then. VETTELWINSLOL. :cry:

S951 · Post by **S951** » 25 Aug 2013, 12:08

christ he is pulling what 1 sec a lap?

SgtPepper · Post by **SgtPepper** » 25 Aug 2013, 12:14

S951 wrote:christ he is pulling what 1 sec a lap?

The RB makes the Merc look like a GP2 car.

Post by **Londoner** » 25 Aug 2013, 12:54

Kimi retires from his first race since his comeback. This race gets worse and worse and worse. :cry:

S951 · Post by **S951** » 25 Aug 2013, 12:58

CRASHUUUUU

Post by **Londoner** » 25 Aug 2013, 12:58

Big crash between Di Resta and Maldolan.

Post by **Londoner** » 25 Aug 2013, 13:00

Maldonado actually managed to hit both Force Indias at the Bus Stop. :lol:

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 25 Aug 2013, 13:03

Sutil's driving like a dick AGAIN. Nearly pushed Gutierrez off at Eau Rouge because he disgracefully didn't jump out of his way. Then caused the crash at the hairpin by driving into Maldonado. Then waves his arm at Gutierrez because he disgracefully tried to race him down to Eau Rouge again. What is wrong with him?

SgtPepper · Post by **SgtPepper** » 25 Aug 2013, 13:33

Kimi out, the RB by far the fastest car, and countless DRS overtakes.

Well, that was disappointing.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 25 Aug 2013, 13:36

Interesting from Hamilton, that he let Alonso past to have DRS. I always did that on F1 2012, didn't think they'd be at that!

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 25 Aug 2013, 13:42

Boring race for Spa standards. The qualify was better.

Post by **mario** » 25 Aug 2013, 13:51

Barbazza wrote:Sutil's driving like a dick AGAIN. Nearly pushed Gutierrez off at Eau Rouge because he disgracefully didn't jump out of his way. Then caused the crash at the hairpin by driving into Maldonado. Then waves his arm at Gutierrez because he disgracefully tried to race him down to Eau Rouge again. What is wrong with him?

And to add insult to injury Maldonado and Gutierrez received penalties for that incident to boot - I feel the penalty to Maldonado was harsh as it looked more like he was trying to avoid Sutil and wandered into di Resta's path.

SgtPepper wrote:Kimi out, the RB by far the fastest car, and countless DRS overtakes.

Well, that was disappointing.

I'm not entirely surprised that Kimi's brakes burned out so quickly in the end - he seemed to have high brake wear in the practise sessions and even during the brief bit of dry running in qualifying, and the amount of brake dust coming out of the ducts was unusually high given that the amount of time spent on the brakes around Spa is fairly low. Add to that the fact he was running for so long in the slipsteam of other cars, and it sounds as if Lotus were simply too aggressive on their cooling and paid the price.
In fact, it has to be said that it was a poor race for Lotus - the one stop strategy didn't work for Grosjean as he lost far too much time in his first stint, so it has to be said that they made poor decisions with both cars. It looks like the decision by Lotus and Mercedes to go for a slightly higher downforce package this weekend worked reasonably well in the wetter part of qualifying but, with other cars able to use their straight line speed advantage, it didn't work so well in the race for either of them.

shinji wrote:Interesting from Hamilton, that he let Alonso past to have DRS. I always did that on F1 2012, didn't think they'd be at that!

There was one point in their battle in Canada where Hamilton and Alonso were trying not to cross the DRS detection point first in an attempt to get DRS (with Hamilton briefly braking only for Alonso to clock what he was doing and immediately slowing down too). It shows how much of an advantage that it must have been in that race that Hamilton was prepared to sacrifice track position to get DRS, and I think that a few other drivers preferred not to attack into La Source and get the use of DRS down the Kemmel straight instead to make it easier to pass.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 25 Aug 2013, 13:56

A big rant coming up.

As I said on the live chat, Vettel has won with the largest margin of the season (17 seconds at the finish), his 5th win of the season.
He also led every lap of the race.
There was no rain, no SCs and a main title contender out of the race.
The zig-zag trend I identified and predicted (Mercedes winning, Red Bull winning, Mercedes winning, Red Bull winning, Mercedes winning, Red Bull winning) very much continued. That was a madly boring, ordinary and disappointing race.
When a non-Vettel driver wins the race, you feel as though the title chase is still on. But whenever Vettel wins, like today, you think the championship battle is all but over. This race simply emphasized how poor this season has been.

f1-gast · Post by **f1-gast** » 25 Aug 2013, 13:56

My ex gf called me yesterday if i got some time today to meet up with her, i told her no there is Formula 1 on the TV, probably i threw a new relation with her away for what ? :cry:

For an boring race , with some annoying german driver that wins again, and also that father of Hamilton i dont give a damn he is standing there is his black leather jacket, looking like an alcoholic addict.... damn put on another face you ! or get the neuk op ! Oh and also the way Perez was driving again... can't stand it.

Well some positive... sure im Glad Sutil scored finally some points , Alonso drove a manifque race, since 4 years he actually scored points and how , with a great podium

And yes i think VDG did a good job this weekend for 2014 more then 40 sec in front of the marussia's !!!