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good_Ralf wrote:
Salamander wrote:
Visconti wrote:I don't think Felipe Massa was ever truly a superb driver, the car which he had in 2007 and 2008 was stronger than that of the opposition, and now he's in a car which is nowhere near being the best car on the grid. You can see that in his results that he improves as the car improves. Alonso out performs the Ferrari, something Massa is incapable of.


Yes, but he was largely on par with Raikkonen those 2 years, even besting him in 2008. Unless you also believe that Raikkonen is overrated...


Not to mention thrashing Jacques Villeneuve at Sauber, even though the Canadian was overrated at that point.


Jacques Villeneuve was very, very overrated.

Massa was somewhere near to Raikkonen in 2007, yet in 2008 maybe the car didn't suit his driving style or perhaps he was not motivated enough to stay in F1. Ferrari always forced him to do media days, which Raikkonen never liked.
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I read this somewhere: Blick (a Swiss journal) hints that Massa could return to Sauber if he gets the boot from Ferrari. And if this happens, Sauber could get a good discount in Ferrari engines, or even getting they for free.
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Visconti wrote:Jacques Villeneuve was very, very overrated.

Massa was somewhere near to Raikkonen in 2007, yet in 2008 maybe the car didn't suit his driving style or perhaps he was not motivated enough to stay in F1. Ferrari always forced him to do media days, which Raikkonen never liked.


Somewhere near!? He was ahead of Raikkonen in the points until the Italian GP that year, where he only retired because of a car failure. He was close to Raikkonen in Belgium, fairly close in China, and would have won in Brazil had Ferrari not asked him to support Raikkonen's title bid. He could've matched Raikkonen in points without that failure in Italy. And whether or not Kimi was motivated in 2008 or not is irrelevant - he was not as good as Massa that year. End of.
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Salamander wrote:
Visconti wrote:Jacques Villeneuve was very, very overrated.

Massa was somewhere near to Raikkonen in 2007, yet in 2008 maybe the car didn't suit his driving style or perhaps he was not motivated enough to stay in F1. Ferrari always forced him to do media days, which Raikkonen never liked.


Somewhere near!? He was ahead of Raikkonen in the points until the Italian GP that year, where he only retired because of a car failure. He was close to Raikkonen in Belgium, fairly close in China, and would have won in Brazil had Ferrari not asked him to support Raikkonen's title bid. He could've matched Raikkonen in points without that failure in Italy. And whether or not Kimi was motivated in 2008 or not is irrelevant - he was not as good as Massa that year. End of.


Massa was a serious victory contender in Malaysia, Bahrain, Spain, France, Europe, Turkey and Brazil - that's 7 wins he could have had and perhaps even more!!!

If he was luckier and more consistent, this is what I think he could have achieved.

Australia - 3rd-4th
Malaysia - 1st-5th
Bahrain - 1st
Spain - 1st
Monaco - 3rd
Canada - DSQ
USA - 3rd
France - 1st-2nd
Britain - 3rd-4th
Europe - 1st-2nd
Hungary - 3rd-5th
Turkey - 1st
Italy - 3rd-4th
Belgium - 2nd
Japan - 3rd-4th
China - 3rd
Brazil - 1st-2nd

My calculations suggest he could have scored 108 to 126 points. In short, he could have been a title contender but this is what I've concluded.
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Salamander wrote:
Visconti wrote:Jacques Villeneuve was very, very overrated.

Massa was somewhere near to Raikkonen in 2007, yet in 2008 maybe the car didn't suit his driving style or perhaps he was not motivated enough to stay in F1. Ferrari always forced him to do media days, which Raikkonen never liked.


Somewhere near!? He was ahead of Raikkonen in the points until the Italian GP that year, where he only retired because of a car failure. He was close to Raikkonen in Belgium, fairly close in China, and would have won in Brazil had Ferrari not asked him to support Raikkonen's title bid. He could've matched Raikkonen in points without that failure in Italy. And whether or not Kimi was motivated in 2008 or not is irrelevant - he was not as good as Massa that year. End of.


Sorry, I badly worded that. But motivation does affect performance, hence why Kimi wasn't as near to Massa. I never thought that Massa was a truly sensational figure but just a good driver. Something about Massa never made me consider him excellent, I suppose he had a short period at his peak before his accident really ruined his confidence.
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Dj_bereta wrote:I read this somewhere: Blick (a Swiss journal) hints that Massa could return to Sauber if he gets the boot from Ferrari. And if this happens, Sauber could get a good discount in Ferrari engines, or even getting they for free.


They should hire a certain Russian driver next to him (not Sirotkin!), and they'll be alright.
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Kimi had two race-ending mechanical failures in 2007 which has to be taken account as well regarding Massa's situation against him.
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Massa is a confidence driver, pure and simple. I think that was most evident when he had that awful British GP in the wet when he spun so many times (despite being a good wet weather driver on other occasions). Alonso has successfully managed to sap any confidence out of him, hence his current position.

I'm beginning to consider my position on Raikkonen going to Ferrari; it might just happen. What I misjudged was the possibility of Massa leaving Ferrari, I thought that they've put up with him as a clear #2 for a while now, why would they change? Ferrari don't employ drivers who aren't experienced so that leaves Raikkonen as the most realistic replacement I suppose. Hulkenberg is good but I think Alonso wouldn't want any youngsters in the team that might even have a sniff of upstaging him.

Which brings up the question of Hulkenberg; will he be without a drive again? He deserves a top drive but will any team have a space? I guess Lotus or Force India might be an option.
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watka wrote:Which brings up the question of Hulkenberg; will he be without a drive again? He deserves a top drive but will any team have a space? I guess Lotus or Force India might be an option.


I certainly hope so. I think he's proven himself as a top driver; he's managed to push this year's dog of a Sauber the furthest it can possibly go and did a sterling job in Force India last season. Instead of being praised for his token performances in lesser teams, he deserves the chance to show that he can mix it with the best towards the front of the field and deliver on the promise that his junior results suggested.

I don't see why Ferrari would hang on to Massa any more. Sure, he's been pretty good on a flying lap, but he's not been close enough to Alonso to act as a rear-gunner. I see Hulkenberg as a handy replacement; not only would he give Alonso the kick up the backside that he seems to have needed so far in 2013 (although Spa hinted that he'd raised his game), he could also be the focal point of future challenges for them. If Red Bull do end up signing Ricciardo, then I'd say a Alonso-Hulkenberg lineup would transcend that of the current champions.

If Ferrari isn't a goer (for whatever reason, be that a Massa extension or a Raikkonen signing), then I'm sure Lotus would be happy to have him. I don't think it's realistic to think he'd go back to Force India, especially as he walked out on them at the end of last year despite effectively stopping his career go down the swanny.

Anyway, in other news I've heard that Felipe Nasr has been linked with a drive at Toro Rosso. Of course it's just rumours at this stage, but on the surface it would be a move to replace Ricciardo. However, this could mean many things. Is Vergne's drive not as secure as we thought? Are Red Bull losing faith in their junior drivers? Answers on a postcard, please.
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Ataxia wrote:Anyway, in other news I've heard that Felipe Nasr has been linked with a drive at Toro Rosso. Of course it's just rumours at this stage, but on the surface it would be a move to replace Ricciardo. However, this could mean many things. Is Vergne's drive not as secure as we thought? Are Red Bull losing faith in their junior drivers? Answers on a postcard, please.


Before this year, I would have said that da Costa would have gotten the second Toro Rosso seat for 2014 in a landslide. However, the guy has been awful by our lofty standards of him this year, so it's understandable that Red Bull would be looking for alternatives.
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Shizuka wrote:
Dj_bereta wrote:I read this somewhere: Blick (a Swiss journal) hints that Massa could return to Sauber if he gets the boot from Ferrari. And if this happens, Sauber could get a good discount in Ferrari engines, or even getting they for free.


They should hire a certain Russian driver next to him (not Sirotkin!), and they'll be alright.
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Yeah. Sirotkin should be third driver to get grips of F1, and Petrov could be good for the Russian sponsors. I think Sirotkin's debut would be a little too rushed, if he gets the second car next year.

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Two of the top teams with almost unlimited budgets need a driver. Red Bull has a vacant seat. Ferrari has an underperforming number 2 and a disenchanted number 1. There is a former world champion in the market who is demonstrating brilliant form. Both teams should be bidding for him to stop him going to the other as (i) he almost guarantees the constructors championship to whoever gets him and (ii) he is very capable of pushing the current number 1 drivers. Who other than Kimi could do this? Certainly not Ricciardo or Massa. There would be something (else!) very wrong with F1 if Kimi didn't end up at one or the other.

My guess is Kimi to Ferrari which may be enough to make Alonso leave to go to Red Bull. In which case is it Hulkenberg to Ferrari or Button to Ferrari and Hulkenberg to McLaren?
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IceG wrote:Two of the top teams with almost unlimited budgets need a driver. Red Bull has a vacant seat. Ferrari has an underperforming number 2 and a disenchanted number 1. There is a former world champion in the market who is demonstrating brilliant form. Both teams should be bidding for him to stop him going to the other as (i) he almost guarantees the constructors championship to whoever gets him and (ii) he is very capable of pushing the current number 1 drivers. Who other than Kimi could do this? Certainly not Ricciardo or Massa. There would be something (else!) very wrong with F1 if Kimi didn't end up at one or the other.

My guess is Kimi to Ferrari which may be enough to make Alonso leave to go to Red Bull. In which case is it Hulkenberg to Ferrari or Button to Ferrari and Hulkenberg to McLaren?

Whilst Kimi may be in strong form (although how much of that is due to preferential treatment by the team is open to question), there is also the fact that Kimi is one of the older drivers in the field - he will be 34 later this year. From the point of view of Red Bull, Ricciardo, though less proven, also has the advantage of youth on his side and potentially could drive for them for much longer than Kimi is likely to stay in F1 for.
Ferrari, similarly, have alternative options that could prove to be good long term bets too - they have been reportedly keeping an eye on Hulkenberg and are training Bianchi over at Marussia - whilst the political situation at Ferrari could also be more delicate (Alonso might resent the move and it is unclear whether he would be able to repair the relations that were strained during his first tenure at Ferrari). Hulkenberg could also potentially fill the role of consistent points scorer too at Ferrari, so Kimi isn't necessarily a shoe in for Massa's seat either should Ferrari kick him out.

Whilst there is a logic for the teams in terms of a short term move, there is a competing longer term interest that does make some of the alternatives to Kimi more compelling. Alonso might be becoming a little more disenchanted with Ferrari but I don't think that things have reached breaking point quite yet between him and the team, so I don't think that he'll be going elsewhere just yet.
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Gosh :shock:
Sniff Petrol wrote:As Formula 1 enters its traditional silly season of speculation, there are strong whispers that Kimi Raikkonen has been talking to people during his summer down time. Now a source close to the Finnish driver has sensationally confirmed these rumours to Sniff Petrol.

‘It is true, Kimi had three conversations during the last couple of weeks,’ our mole revealed. ‘The first was with his friend Henning when he came over to play Xbox. I understand that Kimi said “hey” when he answered the door. The second conversation was a little longer as I understand that Kimi said “See you” when Henning left five hours later. I can’t go into too many details about the third conversation but I will say that at some point Henning may have gone to the kitchen and Kimi might have shouted “Beer!” whilst holding an empty bottle in the air.’

If these stories are true, they mark a dramatic increase in the amount of talking Raikkonen has done in the course of a month. In fact, they would indicate that Raikkonen spoke more during the 2013 summer break than he did during the 2007 and 2008 breaks put together or during the whole of the 2009 season.

As if this wasn’t enough, however, there are unsubstantiated rumours that three weeks ago Raikkonen received a phone call from Red Bull but that he ignored it because he was having a shite.
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http://www.autoweek.com/article/2013083 ... z2ddpR9uQf

Appazza, Ferrari wont be announcing any 2014 line-up news at Monza :o

So Massa's fate it still undecided it appears.
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CoopsII wrote:http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130830/f1/130839975#ixzz2ddpR9uQf

Appazza, Ferrari wont be announcing any 2014 line-up news at Monza :o

So Massa's fate it still undecided it appears.


They'll just keep postponing the announcement, leaving it later and later. They did that with Massa last year.
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good_Ralf wrote:
CoopsII wrote:http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130830/f1/130839975#ixzz2ddpR9uQf

Appazza, Ferrari wont be announcing any 2014 line-up news at Monza :o

So Massa's fate it still undecided it appears.


They'll just keep postponing the announcement, leaving it later and later. They did that with Massa last year.


Yeah, Ferrari is a team with such cliffhanger history :roll:
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mario wrote:
IceG wrote:Two of the top teams with almost unlimited budgets need a driver. Red Bull has a vacant seat. Ferrari has an underperforming number 2 and a disenchanted number 1. There is a former world champion in the market who is demonstrating brilliant form. Both teams should be bidding for him to stop him going to the other as (i) he almost guarantees the constructors championship to whoever gets him and (ii) he is very capable of pushing the current number 1 drivers. Who other than Kimi could do this? Certainly not Ricciardo or Massa. There would be something (else!) very wrong with F1 if Kimi didn't end up at one or the other.

My guess is Kimi to Ferrari which may be enough to make Alonso leave to go to Red Bull. In which case is it Hulkenberg to Ferrari or Button to Ferrari and Hulkenberg to McLaren?

Whilst Kimi may be in strong form (although how much of that is due to preferential treatment by the team is open to question), there is also the fact that Kimi is one of the older drivers in the field - he will be 34 later this year. From the point of view of Red Bull, Ricciardo, though less proven, also has the advantage of youth on his side and potentially could drive for them for much longer than Kimi is likely to stay in F1 for.
Ferrari, similarly, have alternative options that could prove to be good long term bets too - they have been reportedly keeping an eye on Hulkenberg and are training Bianchi over at Marussia - whilst the political situation at Ferrari could also be more delicate (Alonso might resent the move and it is unclear whether he would be able to repair the relations that were strained during his first tenure at Ferrari). Hulkenberg could also potentially fill the role of consistent points scorer too at Ferrari, so Kimi isn't necessarily a shoe in for Massa's seat either should Ferrari kick him out.

Whilst there is a logic for the teams in terms of a short term move, there is a competing longer term interest that does make some of the alternatives to Kimi more compelling. Alonso might be becoming a little more disenchanted with Ferrari but I don't think that things have reached breaking point quite yet between him and the team, so I don't think that he'll be going elsewhere just yet.

Bianchi might be the reason Raikkonen would even jump to Ferrari if that door opened. As in Ferrari has another driver waiting in the wings and Raikkonen would just be keeping the seat warm for Jules if Alonso were to leave. I see Bianchi at worst being of Stefan Johansson talent and Stefan did race for Ferrari.
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takagi_for_the_win wrote:Gosh :shock:
Sniff Petrol wrote:As Formula 1 enters its traditional silly season of speculation, there are strong whispers that Kimi Raikkonen has been talking to people during his summer down time. Now a source close to the Finnish driver has sensationally confirmed these rumours to Sniff Petrol.

‘It is true, Kimi had three conversations during the last couple of weeks,’ our mole revealed. ‘The first was with his friend Henning when he came over to play Xbox. I understand that Kimi said “hey” when he answered the door. The second conversation was a little longer as I understand that Kimi said “See you” when Henning left five hours later. I can’t go into too many details about the third conversation but I will say that at some point Henning may have gone to the kitchen and Kimi might have shouted “Beer!” whilst holding an empty bottle in the air.’

If these stories are true, they mark a dramatic increase in the amount of talking Raikkonen has done in the course of a month. In fact, they would indicate that Raikkonen spoke more during the 2013 summer break than he did during the 2007 and 2008 breaks put together or during the whole of the 2009 season.

As if this wasn’t enough, however, there are unsubstantiated rumours that three weeks ago Raikkonen received a phone call from Red Bull but that he ignored it because he was having a shite.


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@alo_oficial wrote:I have important news coming these days ... Stay tuned here on Twitter and on the Web.. !!!


A move? A contract? A sponsorship? A new watch??????

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oops, Red Bull's got an itchy twitter finger:

https://twitter.com/redbulIracing/statu ... 5465527296
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ADx_Wales wrote:oops, Red Bull's got an itchy twitter finger:

https://twitter.com/redbulIracing/statu ... 5465527296

redbulIracing.

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GwilymJJames wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:oops, Red Bull's got an itchy twitter finger:

https://twitter.com/redbulIracing/statu ... 5465527296

redbulIracing.

not them.


Dang, for a moment I thought it was them until I saw that the account only had one tweet in it.
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Lol, Nico Rosberg has already retweeted it.
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ADx_Wales wrote:Lol, Nico Rosberg has already retweeted it.


His official twitter account is @nico_rosberg. The one you're referring to appears to only speak in Spanish. :?
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ADx_Wales wrote:Lol, Nico Rosberg has already retweeted it.


His official twitter account is @nico_rosberg. The one you're referring to appears to only speak in Spanish. :?


I don't have a Twitter account, but surely people wouldn't be allowed to call their accounts after a celebrity like that.

Plus, I'm fairly sure Nico Rosberg is not a Spanish name.
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I'm beginning to realise how USF1 got as far as they did under all this pretense lol.
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go_Rubens wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:Lol, Nico Rosberg has already retweeted it.


His official twitter account is @nico_rosberg. The one you're referring to appears to only speak in Spanish. :?


I don't have a Twitter account, but surely people wouldn't be allowed to call their accounts after a celebrity like that.


My good friend, you have a lot to learn about Twitter. :lol:

I bet after all this suspense, the actual annoucement will be a massive let down. Perhaps it's confirmation that Massa is hogging the 2nd Ferrari seat for another year. :|
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go_Rubens wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:
ADx_Wales wrote:Lol, Nico Rosberg has already retweeted it.


His official twitter account is @nico_rosberg. The one you're referring to appears to only speak in Spanish. :?


I don't have a Twitter account, but surely people wouldn't be allowed to call their accounts after a celebrity like that.

Plus, I'm fairly sure Nico Rosberg is not a Spanish name.


It might be the account Rosberg uses to speak Spanish on. Actually, does Rosberg speak that much Spanish?
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good_Ralf wrote:Actually, does Rosberg speak that much Spanish?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ7awceEpe0
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good_Ralf wrote:It might be the account Rosberg uses to speak Spanish on. Actually, does Rosberg speak that much Spanish?

He is reported to be fluent in French (having studied in Nice), German (having been born in Germany and with a German mother), Italian, Spanish and English (having studied at an international school), so he certainly seems fairly gifted when it comes to learning languages.

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@alo_oficial wrote:I have important news coming these days ... Stay tuned here on Twitter and on the Web.. !!!


A move? A contract? A sponsorship? A new watch??????

I wish I had a tenterhook so I could be on it.

To be honest, it is more likely to be a new sponsorship deal or some other similar move - there is a suggestion it could be related to a new exhibition about his career (with various important trophies, cars and other paraphernalia associated with his time in motorsport).
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Alonso's "big news" are related to other sports, he has taken over Euskaltel cycling team.
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James Calado has been signed as Force India's third driver, and will do FP1 with them at Monza, alongside his GP2 commitments.
So, who's gonna get the chop? Sutil or di Resta? Or neither?
eytl wrote:I agree. Especially when he talks about one's nerves sending signals 111a and 6783 etc. to the brain upon seeing Ericsson's hairdo.

He's got it all wrong. When I see Ericsson and Chilton's hairdos, the only signal going to my brain is 1049.
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wsrgo wrote:James Calado has been signed as Force India's third driver, and will do FP1 with them at Monza, alongside his GP2 commitments.
So, who's gonna get the chop? Sutil or di Resta? Or neither?


I'm disappointed in FI because they were going to put namesake Rossiter in the car at Silverstone, only for the wet weather to cancel the outing.
Then they don't give him another chance. It's as if they've forgotten him. What would be even worse is that Calado gets the FI drive because he impressed at Monza.
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good_Ralf wrote:
wsrgo wrote:James Calado has been signed as Force India's third driver, and will do FP1 with them at Monza, alongside his GP2 commitments.
So, who's gonna get the chop? Sutil or di Resta? Or neither?


I'm disappointed in FI because they were going to put namesake Rossiter in the car at Silverstone, only for the wet weather to cancel the outing.
Then they don't give him another chance. It's as if they've forgotten him. What would be even worse is that Calado gets the FI drive because he impressed at Monza.


Rossiter is 30 years old, and made his car debut 11 years ago.
eytl wrote:I agree. Especially when he talks about one's nerves sending signals 111a and 6783 etc. to the brain upon seeing Ericsson's hairdo.

He's got it all wrong. When I see Ericsson and Chilton's hairdos, the only signal going to my brain is 1049.
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wsrgo wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:
wsrgo wrote:James Calado has been signed as Force India's third driver, and will do FP1 with them at Monza, alongside his GP2 commitments.
So, who's gonna get the chop? Sutil or di Resta? Or neither?


I'm disappointed in FI because they were going to put namesake Rossiter in the car at Silverstone, only for the wet weather to cancel the outing.
Then they don't give him another chance. It's as if they've forgotten him. What would be even worse is that Calado gets the FI drive because he impressed at Monza.


Rossiter is 30 years old, and made his car debut 11 years ago.

It's also worth noting that Rossiter was allowed to test the VJM06 at Jerez in pre-season testing, so he has been given some seat time in the past by the team.

With regards to Calado, it seems that Force India have signed him on the strength of his performance in the Silverstone test session - that, at least, is the official reason given by Mallya - so Calado has already partially justified his position as third driver on the strength of his earlier performances for the team. It also has to be said that Calado's racing record in the junior series - runner up in the British FR2.0 series, British F3 series and GP3, plus 5th in his first season in GP2 (ahead of a number of much more experienced drivers) - is reasonably strong, which would suggest that there is at least some merit in Force India's decision to try him out in Monza.
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