sswishbone wrote:Great drive from Vettel to make this strategy work, he had some help from Grosjean's awesome driving but can't take that away from him.
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Yeah. Great drive from Vettel, hope he keeps it up so he can take Schumacher's name out of the record books. He just took him out of the Most Career Points (a stupid stat anyway) total, so that's 1 down and many more to go!!
Only it was Alonso who took that record, not Vettel
Either way, it's not Schumacher who has the record, and Vettel will inevitably poach it from Alonso unless he gets bored of kicking everyone's ass in F1.
sswishbone wrote:Great drive from Vettel to make this strategy work, he had some help from Grosjean's awesome driving but can't take that away from him.
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Yeah. Great drive from Vettel, hope he keeps it up so he can take Schumacher's name out of the record books. He just took him out of the Most Career Points (a stupid stat anyway) total, so that's 1 down and many more to go!!
Only it was Alonso who took that record, not Vettel
I have to agree that it is a pretty pointless statistic - the combination of the inflation of the value of the points finishes, plus the increase in the length of the calendar, means that the number of points that a driver can score these days is vastly higher. Schumacher's 144 points in 17 races in 2002 would have been worth 380 points under the modern points system, which is close to Vettel's score of 392 in 19 races in 2011.
Martin Brundle, on watching a replay of Grosjean spinning: "The problem with Grosjean is that he want to take a look back at the corner he's just exited"
Even if strategy played a major part in this race, if Webber can't win even from pole, then he won't win any of his last 4 races. Sorry about not being encouraging, but this is likely to happen.
Check out the position of the sun on 2 August at 20:08 in my garden
Allard Kalff in 1994 wrote:OH!! Schumacher in the wall! Right in front of us, Michael Schumacher is in the wall! He's hit the pitwall, he c... Ah, it's Jos Verstappen.
good_Ralf wrote:Even if strategy played a major part in this race, if Webber can't win even from pole, then he won't win any of his last 4 races. Sorry about not being encouraging, but this is likely to happen.
We all know that deep inside... But even deeper inside - we keep hoping.
As much as I am disappointed with the result being a one-eyed Webber supporter (and was hopeful for someone to say the words "Multi 21" in the last two laps), I think it's a bit rich for Mark to say afterwards that he could have made a two-stopper work when it's well-known that he's harder on the tyres than Vettel (and his lower downforce set-up would have compounded the wear on the tyres). And I think it's a good call from those on the forum who say that Red Bull splitting the strategy really put Grosjean in no-man's land. And if they were going to split the strategy, it was pretty obvious who to put on the two-stop and who to put on the three-stop.
"The car stops me, the car stops" - Alonso after his car failed in Singapore 2008.
Check out the position of the sun on 2 August at 20:08 in my garden
Allard Kalff in 1994 wrote:OH!! Schumacher in the wall! Right in front of us, Michael Schumacher is in the wall! He's hit the pitwall, he c... Ah, it's Jos Verstappen.
I was starting to allow myself to think of a maiden win for Grosjean there sadly - it's a shame for Lotus that Grosjean can't qualify Kimi's car - it was always going to be 2 against 1 with Kimi caught up in the pack because of poor qualifying again. Also Ricciardo did a great job for his future team by holding up the likes of Alonso so nobody else could interfere wtih Red Bull.
"Poor old Warwick takes it from behind all throughout this season". (Tony Jardine, 1988)
Visconti wrote:I reckon Van der Garde can be pleased with himself, a heroic drive not that dissimilar to how Senna drove in Japan 23 years ago
Except he was driving a green and yellow car, not a dark orange and white vehicle.
Check out the position of the sun on 2 August at 20:08 in my garden
Allard Kalff in 1994 wrote:OH!! Schumacher in the wall! Right in front of us, Michael Schumacher is in the wall! He's hit the pitwall, he c... Ah, it's Jos Verstappen.
I'm seriously hoping Sauber gets Force India by the end of the year. Shame they couldn't solve their problems earlier, could've been another exceptional season!
S951 wrote:gut getting first points bet he and team are happy
Yes, but they were probably happier when Kobayashi got a podium at the same race last year.
The one time Kobash didn't squander his podium chances. It was definitely one of the more moving podium celebrations that I can think of ... for anything, really.
