1979 Virtual F1 - Watkins Glen race up

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 26 Dec 2013, 10:37

1979 Austrian GP - Qualfiying

1. Didier Pironi (Ligier JS11) +1:35.223
2. Carlos Pace (Williams FW07) +0.023
3. Tom Pryce (McLaren M28) +0.048
4. James Hunt (McLaren M28) +0.055
5. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT48) +0.186
6. Ronnie Peterson (Williams FW07) +0.471
7. Bruno Giacomelli (Surtees TS20B) +0.519
8. Stefan Johansson (Shadow DN9B) +0.553
9. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT48) +0.622
10. John Watson (Arrows A2) +0.805
11. Clay Regazzoni (Ligier JS11) +0.826
12. Emerson Fittipaldi (Penske PC6B) +0.831
13. Mario Andretti (Penske PC6B) +0.908
14. Chris Amon (Surtees TS20B) +0:1.006
15. Patrick Tambay (Shadow DN9B) +1.081
16. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A2) +1.0100
17. Elio de Angelis (Ferrari 312T4) +1.234
18. Niki Lauda (Lotus 80) +1.470
19. Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari 312T4) +1.619
20. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Rebaque HR100) +1.828
21. Rick Mears (Lotus 80) +1.884
22. Alan Jones (Alfa Romeo 179) +1.904
23. Patrick Depailler (Tyrrell 009) +1.931
24. Alain Prost (Renault RS10) +2.062
25. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 179) +2.099
26. Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 009) +2.346
27. Hector Rebaque (Rebaque HR100) +2.494
28. Tom Sneva (Ensign N179) +2.639
29. Rene Arnoux (Renault RS10) +2.654
30. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N179) +2.732
DNQ:
31. Jacky Ickx (March 791) +2.957
32. Danny Ongais (March 791) +3.147
33. Patrick Gaillard (Boro 003) +4.353
34. Satoru Nakajima (Wolf WR7) +4.649
35. Derek Warwick (Wolf WR7) +4.687
36. Siegfried Stohr (Boro 003) +4.778

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 26 Dec 2013, 11:09

Bracket 1
Brett Lunger
he brings 95 000, and wannts to do two races for that money.

Rolf Stommelen
he brings 50 000, but shows no interest in Merzario

Harald Ertl
he brings 35 000, and would like to do one race.

Lamberto Leoni
he has 35 000, but no interest in the Merzario drive

Emilio de Villota
He has 55 000, but only offers 40 000 for the Merzario drive.

Hans Binder
He fails to come up with any sponsorship.

"Gimax" Carlo Franchi
Gimax comes up with 40 000, and does one race for Merzario.

Alex Ribeiro
Gets only 15 000, not enough for Merzario.

Mike Thackwell
Has 65 000, but asks for two races.

Tiff Needell
Scrapes 1 000 credits together. No chance of a Merzario drive.

Dave Kennedy
Offers 45 000 for one race.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 26 Dec 2013, 11:14

Okay, since Bracket 1 turned out about as well as we could have hoped, this is now the final Merzario lineup for the last five races of the year:

Netherlands: de Villota ($40k)/Ertl ($35k)
Italy: Gimax ($40k)/Brancatelli ($35k)
Canada: Henton ($40k)/Lunger ($45k)
USA: Thackwell ($35k)/Lunger ($50k)
Japan: Thackwell ($30k)/Kennedy ($45k)

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 26 Dec 2013, 13:59

Woah! You didn't even left me time for the austrian upgrades! Well, this will be the last for Ensign as we're reaching our cap

GE: 400 K
Top Speed: 400 K
Grip: 400 K
Reliability: 400 K

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 26 Dec 2013, 16:56

Wizzie wrote:Okay, since Bracket 1 turned out about as well as we could have hoped, this is now the final Merzario lineup for the last five races of the year:

Netherlands: de Villota ($40k)/Ertl ($35k)
Italy: Gimax ($40k)/Brancatelli ($35k)
Canada: Henton ($40k)/Lunger ($45k)
USA: Thackwell ($35k)/Lunger ($50k)
Japan: Thackwell ($30k)/Kennedy ($45k)

Henton, you traitor! :evil:

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 26 Dec 2013, 17:31

First seventh in a race, and now seventh in a qualifying! Maybe we won't crumble under our enormous debt after all! Come on point(s)!

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 26 Dec 2013, 18:57

SeedStriker wrote:Woah! You didn't even left me time for the austrian upgrades! Well, this will be the last for Ensign as we're reaching our cap

GE: 400 K
Top Speed: 400 K
Grip: 400 K
Reliability: 400 K

Yeah, I'm sorry about that, but I want to finish the season until the end of January. Your upgrades will be added for the race.

Post by **Ataxia** » 26 Dec 2013, 19:22

Oh, we have some money now? I'll spend the following:

Grip: 600k
Top Speed: 400k

Thank you!

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 26 Dec 2013, 21:25

Just a question - after this time we will have an option to spend again, right?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 26 Dec 2013, 21:27

pycku wrote:Just a question - after this time we will have an option to spend again, right?

No, after Zandvoort.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 26 Dec 2013, 23:39

Pi, I've just gone over your budget numbers for us in excel and I've found that our current budget should be -628,750 rather than the -878,750 you've listed. I think you've missed out our midseason prize money so you may want to check that for the other teams too.

Also I've realized I made an error with my quote for the extra pay driver money we got from the reshuffle. Our initial deal with our original drivers was 30,000 per race rather than the 35,000 I based my calculation on at the time. Therefore our extra pay driver money should have 280,000 rather than 200,000 which would bring our current budget up to -548,750.

Finally, instead of reimbursing the drivers that lost out on race drives from the reshuffle, would it be okay if we kept their money and use it to give them a guaranteed drive for next season? This would give Derek Daly, Teo Fabi, Andrea de Cesaris, Jan Lammers, Michael Bleekemolen, Huub Rothengater, Keiji Matsumoto, Roberto Marazzi and Hiroshi Fushida all a race each next season for the 30K they initially provided for a race this season instead of the 50K that we instead on selling the rest of the entries for. So we will only be selling 25 of the 34 total entries next season. This would give us back an extra 270K and bring us up to -278,750, enough to ensure we make 1980 with the end of year prize money for 19th.

Hope this is all acceptable.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 26 Dec 2013, 23:50

I don't know what some teams are doing, but shouldn't we limit the amount of drivers a team can have per season to at least 10? At some teams it's becoming rather unrealistic..

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 27 Dec 2013, 07:40

Samster wrote:Pi, I've just gone over your budget numbers for us in excel and I've found that our current budget should be -628,750 rather than the -878,750 you've listed. I think you've missed out our midseason prize money so you may want to check that for the other teams too.

Also I've realized I made an error with my quote for the extra pay driver money we got from the reshuffle. Our initial deal with our original drivers was 30,000 per race rather than the 35,000 I based my calculation on at the time. Therefore our extra pay driver money should have 280,000 rather than 200,000 which would bring our current budget up to -548,750.

That's all correct. I'm sorry for not including you prize money.

Samster wrote:Finally, instead of reimbursing the drivers that lost out on race drives from the reshuffle, would it be okay if we kept their money and use it to give them a guaranteed drive for next season? This would give Derek Daly, Teo Fabi, Andrea de Cesaris, Jan Lammers, Michael Bleekemolen, Huub Rothengater, Keiji Matsumoto, Roberto Marazzi and Hiroshi Fushida all a race each next season for the 30K they initially provided for a race this season instead of the 50K that we instead on selling the rest of the entries for. So we will only be selling 25 of the 34 total entries next season. This would give us back an extra 270K and bring us up to -278,750, enough to ensure we make 1980 with the end of year prize money for 19th.

Hope this is all acceptable.

Starting to sell your 1980 seats now is not possible.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 27 Dec 2013, 09:36

1979 Austrian GP - Race:
1. James Hunt (McLaren M28) 54 Laps
2. Tom Pryce (McLaren M28) +5.586
3. Carlos Pace (Williams FW07) +10.893
4. Stefan Johansson (Shadow DN9B) +32.049
5. Clay Regazzoni (Ligier JS11) +44.618
6. Chris Amon (Surtees TS20B) +45.106
7. Patrick Tambay (Shadow DN9B) +1:24.906
8. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT48) +1 Lap / Transmission
9. Emerson Fittipaldi (Penske PC6B) +1 Lap
10. Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari 312T4) +1 Lap
11. Patrick Depailler (Tyrrell 009) +1 Lap
12. Alan Jones (Alfa Romeo 179) +1 Laps
DNF:
Alain Prost (Renault RS10) +11 Laps / Transmission
Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 009) +13 Laps / Brakes
Ronnie Peterson (Williams FW07) +14 Laps / Electrics
Niki Lauda (Lotus 80) +15 Laps / Gearbox
Rick Mears (Lotus 80) +17 Laps / Electrics
Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 179) +24 Laps / Transmission
Jean-Pierre Jarier (Rebaque HR100) +28 Laps / Suspension
Elio de Angelis (Ferrari 312T4) +32 Laps / Electrics
Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT48) +33 Laps / Engine
Rene Arnoux (Renault RS10) +33 Laps / Engine
Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N179) +37 Laps / Engine
Bruno Giacomelli (Surtees TS20B) +38 Laps / Gearbox
Tom Sneva (Ensign N179) +38 Laps / Accident
John Watson (Arrows A2) +39 Laps / Electrics
Hector Rebaque (Rebaque HR100) +40 Laps / Electrics
Jacques Laffite (Arrows A2) +42 Laps / Transmission
Didier Pironi (Ligier JS11) +43 Laps / Accident
Mario Andretti (Penske PC6B) +46 Laps / Suspension

Fastest Lap: Tom Pryce

Injury Report: Gilles Villeneuve has been cleared to take part in the Dutch GP.

By default, Villeneuve, Pironi and de Angelis return to their original teams. If you have other plans, please announce them here in the thread.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 27 Dec 2013, 10:45

pi314159 wrote:
Samster wrote:Pi, I've just gone over your budget numbers for us in excel and I've found that our current budget should be -628,750 rather than the -878,750 you've listed. I think you've missed out our midseason prize money so you may want to check that for the other teams too.

Also I've realized I made an error with my quote for the extra pay driver money we got from the reshuffle. Our initial deal with our original drivers was 30,000 per race rather than the 35,000 I based my calculation on at the time. Therefore our extra pay driver money should have 280,000 rather than 200,000 which would bring our current budget up to -548,750.

That's all correct. I'm sorry for not including you prize money.
Samster wrote:Finally, instead of reimbursing the drivers that lost out on race drives from the reshuffle, would it be okay if we kept their money and use it to give them a guaranteed drive for next season? This would give Derek Daly, Teo Fabi, Andrea de Cesaris, Jan Lammers, Michael Bleekemolen, Huub Rothengater, Keiji Matsumoto, Roberto Marazzi and Hiroshi Fushida all a race each next season for the 30K they initially provided for a race this season instead of the 50K that we instead on selling the rest of the entries for. So we will only be selling 25 of the 34 total entries next season. This would give us back an extra 270K and bring us up to -278,750, enough to ensure we make 1980 with the end of year prize money for 19th.

Hope this is all acceptable.

Starting to sell your 1980 seats now is not possible.

Okay thanks, I only noticed this because I was desperately looking for a way to scrap enough money together to make it into 1980. So since that last strategy didn't work we are still 48,750 short. Our only option now is to start a begathon for the remaining money. All we need is say five teams to find it in their hearts to donate 10K each (or for one to donate 50K) and we'll pay back once we have our 1980 package sorted and our mate who works at Heineken will hook you up with a year's supply of the finest Dutch beer.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 27 Dec 2013, 10:57

McLaren will loan 30k to Boro.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 27 Dec 2013, 11:09

Samster wrote:
pi314159 wrote:
Samster wrote:Pi, I've just gone over your budget numbers for us in excel and I've found that our current budget should be -628,750 rather than the -878,750 you've listed. I think you've missed out our midseason prize money so you may want to check that for the other teams too.

Also I've realized I made an error with my quote for the extra pay driver money we got from the reshuffle. Our initial deal with our original drivers was 30,000 per race rather than the 35,000 I based my calculation on at the time. Therefore our extra pay driver money should have 280,000 rather than 200,000 which would bring our current budget up to -548,750.

That's all correct. I'm sorry for not including you prize money.
Samster wrote:Finally, instead of reimbursing the drivers that lost out on race drives from the reshuffle, would it be okay if we kept their money and use it to give them a guaranteed drive for next season? This would give Derek Daly, Teo Fabi, Andrea de Cesaris, Jan Lammers, Michael Bleekemolen, Huub Rothengater, Keiji Matsumoto, Roberto Marazzi and Hiroshi Fushida all a race each next season for the 30K they initially provided for a race this season instead of the 50K that we instead on selling the rest of the entries for. So we will only be selling 25 of the 34 total entries next season. This would give us back an extra 270K and bring us up to -278,750, enough to ensure we make 1980 with the end of year prize money for 19th.

Hope this is all acceptable.

Starting to sell your 1980 seats now is not possible.

Okay thanks, I only noticed this because I was desperately looking for a way to scrap enough money together to make it into 1980. So since that last strategy didn't work we are still 48,750 short. Our only option now is to start a begathon for the remaining money. All we need is say five teams to find it in their hearts to donate 10K each (or for one to donate 50K) and we'll pay back once we have our 1980 package sorted and our mate who works at Heineken will hook you up with a year's supply of the finest Dutch beer.

If it helps, Rolf Stommelen has 50k sitting in the bank, and he might be willing to drive for Boro for a race. And there's also a bevy of drivers in Merzario's proposed "Bracket 2" you could turn to to replace the guys that are bringing less than 50k a race.

Other than that, if you come onto the chat at some point, we might be able to discuss a deal with Boro that could potentially save the team for 1980.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 27 Dec 2013, 11:40

Salamander wrote:McLaren will loan 30k to Boro.

Thank you for your generosity, just need 20K.

And Wizzie, we only have two drivers paying less than 50K for the remaining races so we'd need two drivers that are willing to pay 50K. When would you be in chat, I'm intrigued by this deal.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 27 Dec 2013, 11:47

Samster wrote:
Salamander wrote:McLaren will loan 30k to Boro.

Thank you for your generosity, just need 20K.

And Wizzie, we only have two drivers paying less than 50K for the remaining races so we'd need two drivers that are willing to pay 50K. When would you be in chat, I'm intrigued by this deal.

I'm in the chat almost all the time, since I don't have a life

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 27 Dec 2013, 13:29

Phenomenonal wins in Germany and Austria! Truly a dream come true for us. McLaren is now 54 points ahead in the WCC but no one in Bavaria is resting!

Great results from Shadow as well, a podium and another points finish has them in 6th in the WCC a tremendous improvement over 1978.

Pi, Is our budget accurate? I know I'm nagging about this, but I need to see how much I have left to develop our final upgrade, as well as help out Boro and Kaushen.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 27 Dec 2013, 15:43

YES! A POINT! Though it was from Chris Amon. Where was Giacomelli when he retired?

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 27 Dec 2013, 18:34

We really had some great races and are now in 5th position. Maybe we can even attack 4th place.

With regards to engines:
Will all engine suppliers get a new budget next year?

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 27 Dec 2013, 19:31

Tyrrell will spend 500k at grip

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 29 Dec 2013, 10:53

1979 Dutch GP - Pre-Qualifying:

1. Alan Jones (Alfa Romeo 179) 1:16.669
2. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 179) +0.073
3. Jacky Ickx (March 791) +0.192
4. Danny Ongais (March 791) +0.648
5. Jan Lammers (Boro 003) +1.827
6. Didier Pironi (Wolf WR7) +1.947
DNPQ:
7. Derek Warwick (Wolf WR7) +2.050
8. Huub Rothengatter (Boro 003) +2.249
9. Kazuyoshi Hoshino (Kauhsen WK) +2.362
10. Jochen Mass (Kauhsen WK) +2.563
11. Marc Surer (ATS D2) +3.602
12. Harald Ertl (Merzario A2) +4.306
13. Emilio de Villota (Merzario A2) +4.622

1979 Dutch GP - Qualifying:
1. Tom Pryce (McLaren M28) 1:14.084
2. James Hunt (McLaren M28) +0.208
3. Elio de Angelis (Ligier JS11) +0.363
4. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT48) +0.474
5. Carlos Pace (Williams FW07) +0.511
6. Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari 312T4) +0.712
7. Ronnie Peterson (Williams FW07) +0.761
8. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT48) +0.882
9. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A2) +1.073
10. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T4) +1.084
11. Clay Regazzoni (Ligier JS11) +1.110
12. John Watson (Arrows A2) +1.189
13. Stefan Johansson (Shadow DN9B) +1.288
14. Patrick Tambay (Shadow DN9B) +1.399
15. Alain Prost (Renault RS10) +1.625
16. Mario Andretti (Penske PC6B) +1.647
17. Emerson Fittipaldi (Penske PC6B) +1.684
18. Niki Lauda (Lotus 80) +1.964
19. Rene Arnoux (Renault RS10) +1.982
20. Chris Amon (Surtees TS20B) +0:2.000
21. Carlos Reutemann (Ensign N179) +2.131
22. Alan Jones (Alfa Romeo 179) +2.166
23. Tom Sneva (Ensign N179) +2.271
24. Nelson Piquet (Tyrrell 009) +2.288
25. Rick Mears (Lotus 80) +2.450
26. Bruno Giacomelli (Surtees TS20B) +2.473
27. Patrick Depailler (Tyrrell 009) +2.562
28. Nigel Mansell (Alfa Romeo 179) +2.874
DNQ:
29. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Rebaque HR100) +3.365
30. Jacky Ickx (March 791) +3.561
31. Hector Rebaque (Rebaque HR100) +3.624
32. Danny Ongais (March 791) +3.674
33. Didier Pironi (Wolf WR7) +3.973
34. Jan Lammers (Boro 003) +4.713

Jan Lammers had a massive crash halfway through the session. He escaped without major injuries, and if anyone wants to run him, he will recover in time for Monza. However, he won't be available for testing until Monza.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 29 Dec 2013, 17:08

Yay, we suck again! If we hadn't Lotused ourselves by millions already I'd do something about it.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 29 Dec 2013, 18:18

Another 1-2 in quali! Splendid! And 4 cars in the top 14!

Bmw will immediately give $55,000 to both Boro and Kaushen. This isn't a loan, enjoy it!

Also we are working hard on our "King-Tiger Spec" motors as well!

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 29 Dec 2013, 21:04

Boro would like to see if both Rolf Stommelen and Emilio de Villota are interested in bringing their 50k to us for a race each. This would be in the place of Rad Dougall and José "Pocholo" Ramirez who only brought 40K each. This last change should bring our debt to less than 500K.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 29 Dec 2013, 22:37

Wallio wrote:Another 1-2 in quali! Splendid! And 4 cars in the top 14!

Bmw will immediately give $55,000 to both Boro and Kaushen. This isn't a loan, enjoy it!

Also we are working hard on our "King-Tiger Spec" motors as well!

Well, with that little money, i doubt we could afford much more than a 'House Cat Spec' :lol:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 29 Dec 2013, 23:42

Samster wrote:Boro would like to see if both Rolf Stommelen and Emilio de Villota are interested in bringing their 50k to us for a race each. This would be in the place of Rad Dougall and José "Pocholo" Ramirez who only brought 40K each. This last change should bring our debt to less than 500K.

de Villota has already spent 40k to troll around at Merzario, so he won't have 50k for Boro as well if my understanding of the rules are correct.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 29 Dec 2013, 23:49

This wrote:
Wallio wrote:Another 1-2 in quali! Splendid! And 4 cars in the top 14!

Bmw will immediately give $55,000 to both Boro and Kaushen. This isn't a loan, enjoy it!

Also we are working hard on our "King-Tiger Spec" motors as well!

Well, with that little money, i doubt we could afford much more than a 'House Cat Spec'

Such ungratefulness. You asked for a 30k loan and we give up 55k as a gift. I see how our northern neighbors treat Christmas presents.......

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 29 Dec 2013, 23:55

Wallio wrote:
This wrote:
Wallio wrote:Another 1-2 in quali! Splendid! And 4 cars in the top 14!

Bmw will immediately give $55,000 to both Boro and Kaushen. This isn't a loan, enjoy it!

Also we are working hard on our "King-Tiger Spec" motors as well!

Well, with that little money, i doubt we could afford much more than a 'House Cat Spec'

Such ungratefulness. You asked for a 30k loan and we give up 55k as a gift. I see how our northern neighbors treat Christmas presents.......

Looks like you confuse me with Boro, i didn't ask for anything, actually. I just stated 'whatever Boro got, i should get that too'.
Alright, i take my statement back, and admit it's at least worthy of a Wildcat

Post by **Ataxia** » 30 Dec 2013, 00:11

At the end of the season, I'll be handing over Renault to somebody more likely to take the team a little further than I have. I'd then like to return to the waiting list if that's alright, Pi.

At the very least, someone competent should be heading up the engine side.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 30 Dec 2013, 03:07

This wrote:Looks like you confuse me with Boro, i didn't ask for anything, actually. I just stated 'whatever Boro got, i should get that too'.
Alright, i take my statement back, and admit it's at least worthy of a Wildcat

Indeed I have mixed the two up, but this only makes it worse! Your German for Christ's sake, act it man! This decision will have dire consequences.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 30 Dec 2013, 15:37

Wallio wrote:
This wrote:Looks like you confuse me with Boro, i didn't ask for anything, actually. I just stated 'whatever Boro got, i should get that too'.
Alright, i take my statement back, and admit it's at least worthy of a Wildcat

Indeed I have mixed the two up, but this only makes it worse! Your German for Christ's sake, act it man! This decision will have dire consequences.

I say revoke their engine upgrades. :twisted:

We at Boro on the other hand are extremely grateful for the 55K as it means we will survive into 1980 once we get our end of season prize money and also leave us with enough to pay back McLaren's 30K loan earlier than planned. A truckload of Heineken is on its way over to Munich for all at BMW to enjoy, the driver has been instructed to ignore all traffic lights and stop signs.

Therefore we will keep our lineup as it is with Dougall and Ramirez running as planned.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 30 Dec 2013, 17:10

Samster wrote:A truckload of Heineken is on its way over to Munich for all at BMW to enjoy, the driver has been instructed to ignore all traffic lights and stop signs.

*Imagines police chase on main street of generic mid-size town*

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 30 Dec 2013, 20:23

Wallio wrote:
This wrote:Looks like you confuse me with Boro, i didn't ask for anything, actually. I just stated 'whatever Boro got, i should get that too'.
Alright, i take my statement back, and admit it's at least worthy of a Wildcat

Indeed I have mixed the two up, but this only makes it worse! Your German for Christ's sake, act it man! This decision will have dire consequences.

It was german humour: thus a totally unfunny way of asking you subtly 'what exactly do you have in offer for that prize'

Germans aren't funny, deal with it

Samster wrote:A truckload of Heineken is on its way over to Munich for all at BMW to enjoy, the driver has been instructed to ignore all traffic lights and stop signs.

Great idea, you're making BMW feel better by sending them the worst beer in the world :lol:

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 30 Dec 2013, 20:49

This wrote:It was german humour: thus a totally unfunny way of asking you subtly 'what exactly do you have in offer for that prize'
Germans aren't funny, deal with it

Apart from Henning Wehn

I'll get my coat now :oops:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 30 Dec 2013, 23:19

We are at the point of the season where Ligier are stuck in a bit of a jam in terms of budget. But due to the fact we're concerned about Williams and Arrows behind us, we will spend 600k on Ground Effects after this race, which will be our last upgrade of the season.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 31 Dec 2013, 11:13

Cosworth are planning engine upgrade. Whoever is interested may e-mail me or post here. The engine will be available from next race (plans are sent to pi)

andrew · Post by **andrew** » 31 Dec 2013, 11:59

We will spend 500k on ground effects