F1RWRS 2017 Rules Discussion

[AndreaModa]

I'm all for the bankruptcy idea. Fantastic way of making sure team owners stay on the ball and active, otherwise they'll be out on their arses and we can get that waiting list down a little bit.

WarrenHughes is right. There's plenty of room for those who are in a tight spot to keep competing. You have to have the foresight to see ahead and predict your likely results and work out if you're going to be able to afford that 600cr factory engine deal in 5 years time Wizzie!

[the Masked Lapwing]

And it's not that I don't have the management skill; Prospec was screwed when I took it over and it's still screwed now, so really I've maintained the status quo

Sorry about that by the way

[AdrianSutil]

If you have a poor chassis and crap tyres, and sign two awful drivers who don't being any money in, then you spend all your money on an expensive engine expecting it to push you into the points all the time, and it doesn't, and you go bankrupt, you deserve to be punched in the face really.
It really isn't that hard to guesstimate your season with what you have to work with. I've got two decent drivers, one of which brings money, very good tyres, a decent chassis and a reliable-yet-powerful engine. So I'm estimating I'll be fighting for points on a regular basis. If I am, my gamble has paid off and if it doesn't happen, we will think of something else. But going into this blind will see you lose all your money quicker than you can say 'Northern Rock'.

[SuperAguri]

I've got two top class drivers, one of which brings money, one that has fighting talent, very good tyres, a decent chassis and a reliable-yet-powerful engine. So I'm estimating I'll be fighting for podiums on a regular basis.

*Fixed*

[Aerond]

I was thinking to include this rule from next season:

A pay driver who finishes top 5 in the championship or gets more than 50 points (accumulated), automatically becomes a regular driver (when a driver totals 50 points, it becomes a regular driver at the end of the season)
If this rule starts to be applied in 2017; drivers like Mignolet, would still have a season as Pay drivers, and would not start the 2017 season as regular drivers.

[Aerond]

Just more auto-reminder messages about F1RWRS 2017;

To implement;

- Driver form; Driver performance will fluctuate throughout the season depending on on-track factors (accidents, performance, reliability) and off-track factors (press-releases, driver changes, rumours...)
- Mechanical approach; Team owner will be able to decide how much they want to extract from the car. There will be 5 levels; The third level being "normal"; a more conservative approach will mean you reduce the engine power to gain reliability, and an agressive approach will mean you get more BHP out of the engine (if the chassis BHP limit allows for it) at a reliability cost. This can be changed as many times as needed per season.
- New weather model; Instead of the current three tier model (light rain, rain and monsoon), when a session is wet it will come with a wet percentage; the more wet the session is, the poorer the grip and the higher the random grip range.

[pi314159]

I would like to make a proposal for 2017. This season, several times, teams had very little time to replace a driver who pulled out of the team or received a ban. For that reason, I would like to propose official reserve drivers for 2017. These drivers would need a superlicense of course, and would automatically replace an unavailable driver, unless the team owner finds a different replacement.

[Aerond]

I'm ok with that proposal pi

Another two changes;

DOTR will award 10 credits to the team the winning driver works for,
Pay Driver money will be available after each race, instead every four races

Still studying some way of introducing sponsorship... I'll keep you informed.

[Onxy Wrecked]

I'm all for the bankruptcy idea. Fantastic way of making sure team owners stay on the ball and active, otherwise they'll be out on their arses and we can get that waiting list down a little bit.

WarrenHughes is right. There's plenty of room for those who are in a tight spot to keep competing. You have to have the foresight to see ahead and predict your likely results and work out if you're going to be able to afford that 600cr factory engine deal in 5 years time Wizzie!

Might even give me a reason to join the wait list.

[Salamander]

- Driver form; Driver performance will fluctuate throughout the season depending on on-track factors (accidents, performance, reliability) and off-track factors (press-releases, driver changes, rumours...)
- Mechanical approach; Team owner will be able to decide how much they want to extract from the car. There will be 5 levels; The third level being "normal"; a more conservative approach will mean you reduce the engine power to gain reliability, and an agressive approach will mean you get more BHP out of the engine (if the chassis BHP limit allows for it) at a reliability cost. This can be changed as many times as needed per season.
- New weather model; Instead of the current three tier model (light rain, rain and monsoon), when a session is wet it will come with a wet percentage; the more wet the session is, the poorer the grip and the higher the random grip range.

These all sound quite interesting, and should help add more to F1RWRS, but I would like to hear more details on the first two; specifically, how much of an effect will driver form have, and how exactly press releases can affect it, and how much you can alter the cars performance through mechanical approach.

DOTR will award 10 credits to the team the winning driver works for,
Pay Driver money will be available after each race, instead every four races

Both of these sound good to me.

[Aerond]

- Driver form; Driver performance will fluctuate throughout the season depending on on-track factors (accidents, performance, reliability) and off-track factors (press-releases, driver changes, rumours...)
- Mechanical approach; Team owner will be able to decide how much they want to extract from the car. There will be 5 levels; The third level being "normal"; a more conservative approach will mean you reduce the engine power to gain reliability, and an agressive approach will mean you get more BHP out of the engine (if the chassis BHP limit allows for it) at a reliability cost. This can be changed as many times as needed per season.
- New weather model; Instead of the current three tier model (light rain, rain and monsoon), when a session is wet it will come with a wet percentage; the more wet the session is, the poorer the grip and the higher the random grip range.

These all sound quite interesting, and should help add more to F1RWRS, but I would like to hear more details on the first two; specifically, how much of an effect will driver form have, and how exactly press releases can affect it, and how much you can alter the cars performance through mechanical approach.

I'm still developing the numbers. It will have an effect, not sideral, but not insignificant. I would be talking in the region of 300/400 grip/RGR points over the course of a season at extreme cases.
Also, Mechanical approach numbers are secret.

[Aerond]

Just more auto reminders;

- Change of the testing model: Max. two drivers per team per day of testing (i.e. one car); each driver will automatically earn 10 grip points both race and quali trim by attending any non-official test. Team owners can choose one area of the chassis of focus; depending on how race simulations went and drivers experience, the car will improve or not.

- Downforce and Handling will now be accounted by 0.1 instead of full points. Upgrade price to be reduced to 15 credits per 0.1 downforce and 5 credits per 0.1 Handling.

[AndreaModa]

Downforce and Handling will now be accounted by 0.1 instead of full points. Upgrade price to be reduced to 15 credits per 0.1 downforce and 5 credits per 0.1 Handling.

Excellent idea, this will come in very useful for pretty much every team I'd imagine. The 200cr downforce upgrade was impossible to get unless you were one of the lower teams with a pay driver churning out the maximum credits.

The changes to testing look good as well. I like the look of automatic 10 grip points too. A certain Mr T Hawkin and Mr D. A. Torrente may make use of that!

[Phoenix]

I really hope The Lukas will drop by and read this...

Aeroracing Engineering is very keen on hiring Alexey Buyvolov to replace Pippa Mann for the 2017 F1RWRS season. Will this be possible?

[Aerospeed]

Terry Hawkin, Salvatore Miccoli rumoured to join Aston in 2017
With the IRFC title going down to the wire, Hawkin and Micolli are reinforcing their status as potential superstars. Brett Johnson, who in his own admission has been "watching the series with huge intent," said that he would like to hire Hawkin and Miccoli in the 2017 season in the F2RWRS. "They are both very talented drivers," said Johnson, "and I think that a season with Aston Martin will make them very desirable for the future." When asked about having two championship contenders compete as teammates, Johnson said that the partnership would "increase their stock as not only someone who can handle having a competitive teammate and being able to work together to bring together the Teams' title."

[Salamander]

Terry Hawkin, Salvatore Miccoli rumoured to join Aston in 2017
With the IRFC title going down to the wire, Hawkin and Micolli are reinforcing their status as potential superstars. Brett Johnson, who in his own admission has been "watching the series with huge intent," said that he would like to hire Hawkin and Miccoli in the 2017 season in the F2RWRS. "They are both very talented drivers," said Johnson, "and I think that a season with Aston Martin will make them very desirable for the future." When asked about having two championship contenders compete as teammates, Johnson said that the partnership would "increase their stock as not only someone who can handle having a competitive teammate and being able to work together to bring together the Teams' title."

Aside from the fact that this is a rules discussion thread and not the RWRS silly season thread... well, good luck securing either of those drivers, because you will most definitely need all of it to even have a hope.

[Phoenix]

Mr. Lukas, have you thought about the Buyvolov/Aeroracing deal?

[RealRacingRoots]

Because this is the RULES thread for future seasons of the F1RWRS, might as well post the rule changes that we know about from Aerond announcing them during 2016.

*For every class of In-House Chassis Building except Class 9 (the highest grade) you can spend a additional 50 Credits to bump up the RNG range of one of the four Chassis Attributes (Reliability, Downforce, Handling and Max Power) from the Class you are paying for to the one above it. (Say you make a class 6 chassis and spend the additional 50 credits to improve Max Power, the Max Power range will be rolled using the Class 7 Ranges)

*The Costs of Upgrading Downforce and Handling stats on Chassis are decreased to 150 and 50 per point respectively. Downforce and Handling will now be accounted by 0.1 instead of full points. Upgrade price to be reduced to 15 credits per 0.1 downforce and 5 credits per 0.1 Handling. (A handy reminder that the Maximum Point Values for Downforce and Handling is 15)

*The costs of Engine Contracts are decreased by 30% as per F1RTA vote.

*Testing: Max. two drivers per team per day of testing (i.e. one car); each driver will automatically earn 10 grip points both race and quali trim by attending any non-official test. Team owners can choose one area of the chassis of focus; depending on how race simulations went and drivers experience, the car will improve or not.

*Drive Of The Race will award 10 credits to the team the winning driver works for.

*Pay Driver money will be available after each race, instead every four races.

*Driver form; Driver performance will fluctuate throughout the season depending on on-track factors (accidents, performance, reliability) and off-track factors (press-releases, driver changes, rumours...)

*Mechanical approach; Team owner will be able to decide how much they want to extract from the car. There will be 5 levels; The third level being "normal"; a more conservative approach will mean you reduce the engine power to gain reliability, and an aggressive approach will mean you get more BHP out of the engine (if the chassis BHP limit allows for it) at a reliability cost. This can be changed as many times as needed per season.

*New weather model; Instead of the current three tier model (light rain, rain and monsoon), when a session is wet it will come with a wet percentage; the more wet the session is, the poorer the grip and the higher the random grip range.

[Aerond]

Forgot to add this;

- Introduce a points based penalty system, similar to current F1