1980 Alternate F1 - Season final at Suzuka up

Post by **Nuppiz** » 06 Feb 2014, 19:42

What's more, the BRM engines will also be extremely cheap. Only £115 000 per unit for full factory support, and £100 000 for customer teams!

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 06 Feb 2014, 22:42

Matra is glad to announce Wolf Racing as our new customer team!

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 07 Feb 2014, 01:25

Boro would like to offer Derek Warwick five races and Rene Arnoux six races. We will pay them both 20K per race.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 07 Feb 2014, 09:10

Cosworth confirms Tyrrell and Surtess as their customers. Obviously, Penske will also run Cosworths in 1980.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 07 Feb 2014, 14:07

Last driver signings:
Jean-Pierre Jarier has an offer from Wolf, but having recently rejected an offer from ATS, Wolf's chances aren't high
1-3 accepts two-year deal
4-20 asks for a one-year deal
21-100 no interest
9, surprisingly, Jarier joins Wolf for 250 000.

Rene Arnoux has an offer from Boro to do six races for a total of 120 000 credits.
1-75 he joins Boro
76-100 looks somewhere else
24, he joins Boro

Derek Warwick, after failing to qualify the Wolf in 1979, has an offer to do 5 races for Boro for a total of 100 000 credits

1-80 he joins Boro
81-100 he turns down the offer
78, that was close, but in the end he joins Boro.

In other news:
1) Only Ensign and Kauhsen need to decide on an engine.

2) Spending money on chassis development is possible before as well as after the tests.

3) Most teams can easily pay the full-season entry fees for two cars. If you want to pull out of a part of the season, please announce it here. Wolf currently don't have the required financial resources to enter the full season, so they either need to announce in which races they'll take part, or enter on a race-by-race basis as long as their money lasts.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 07 Feb 2014, 15:33

Williams will test at the following locations:
Le Castellet
Jarama

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 07 Feb 2014, 16:10

Ensign is still discussing with two manufacturers the issue about the engines. Hopefully, we will make a decision by the end of the day, depending on the talks.

CaptainGetz12 · Post by **CaptainGetz12** » 07 Feb 2014, 16:23

pi314159 wrote:
In other news:
1) Only Ensign and Kauhsen need to decide on an engine.

2) Spending money on chassis development is possible before as well as after the tests.

3) Most teams can easily pay the full-season entry fees for two cars. If you want to pull out of a part of the season, please announce it here. Wolf currently don't have the required financial resources to enter the full season, so they either need to announce in which races they'll take part, or enter on a race-by-race basis as long as their money lasts.

Is there anywhere where I can see the current stats of our chassis? We want to know our current status before investing in upgrades.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 07 Feb 2014, 16:30

CaptainGetz12 wrote:Is there anywhere where I can see the current stats of our chassis? We want to know our current status before investing in upgrades.

No, the cars' stats aren't public. However, as you just took over the team, I'll write you a PM on Renault's status, so you don't have to look up in which areas he bought upgrades.

Ferrarist · Post by **Ferrarist** » 07 Feb 2014, 16:35

Penske will test at Sebring and Paul Ricard.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 07 Feb 2014, 16:39

CaptainGetz12 wrote:
pi314159 wrote:
In other news:
1) Only Ensign and Kauhsen need to decide on an engine.

2) Spending money on chassis development is possible before as well as after the tests.

3) Most teams can easily pay the full-season entry fees for two cars. If you want to pull out of a part of the season, please announce it here. Wolf currently don't have the required financial resources to enter the full season, so they either need to announce in which races they'll take part, or enter on a race-by-race basis as long as their money lasts.

Is there anywhere where I can see the current stats of our chassis? We want to know our current status before investing in upgrades.

First of all, confirm the signups already!

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 07 Feb 2014, 17:48

Since the lack of interest from another party during the last days will hinder our 1980 campaign, Parmalat Team Ensign will keep it's ties with Ferrari engines for 1980

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 07 Feb 2014, 21:31

SeedStriker wrote:Since the lack of interest from another party during the last days will hinder our 1980 campaign, Parmalat Team Ensign will keep it's ties with Ferrari engines for 1980

Nice to have you onboard for another season!

And with that, Ferrari can reveal their partners for the 1980 season. Looking to consolidate on their stunning performances, being best of the rest behind McLaren, Ligier will be looking to take the step up and challenge for the title. Ensign may have had a disappointing 1979 season, but with continuity on the engine front and two talented drivers, expect big steps forward from Mo Nunn's boys this year. Charismatic German backmarkers Kauhsen are one of our two new customers this season, as they look to qualify for races on a consistent basis. And finally, we welcome Osella into the Formula One fray, and into the Ferrari fray. With one proven talent and one promising talent, they could pull off some surprises this season.

Pi, Ferrari will test at Imola and Jarama, and we invite all Ferrari-supplied teams to join us at the tests.

Also, PM sent regards engine contracts.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 07 Feb 2014, 21:55

Would it be ok if Wolf only did the European races this season due to our money issues?

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 07 Feb 2014, 22:03

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
SeedStriker wrote:Since the lack of interest from another party during the last days will hinder our 1980 campaign, Parmalat Team Ensign will keep it's ties with Ferrari engines for 1980

Nice to have you onboard for another season!

And with that, Ferrari can reveal their partners for the 1980 season. Looking to consolidate on their stunning performances, being best of the rest behind McLaren, Ligier will be looking to take the step up and challenge for the title. Ensign may have had a disappointing 1979 season, but with continuity on the engine front and two talented drivers, expect big steps forward from Mo Nunn's boys this year. Charismatic German backmarkers Kauhsen are one of our two new customers this season, as they look to qualify for races on a consistent basis. And finally, we welcome Osella into the Formula One fray, and into the Ferrari fray. With one proven talent and one promising talent, they could pull off some surprises this season.

Pi, Ferrari will test at Imola and Jarama, and we invite all Ferrari-supplied teams to join us at the tests.

Also, PM sent regards engine contracts.

Well, having scored half point less than the main factory team isn't that bad :p
Since Ferrari has invited all customers, Ensign accept to go to Jarama instead of Paul Ricard

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 08 Feb 2014, 01:06

Boro will send our payed drivers, Rene Arnoux and Derek Warwick to the tests. We will also be the first to reveal our pre-season upgrades. We will gamble and put all of our 2.4 million pre-season budget towards ground effects.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 08 Feb 2014, 01:10

takagi_for_the_win wrote:
SeedStriker wrote:Since the lack of interest from another party during the last days will hinder our 1980 campaign, Parmalat Team Ensign will keep it's ties with Ferrari engines for 1980

Nice to have you onboard for another season!

And with that, Ferrari can reveal their partners for the 1980 season. Looking to consolidate on their stunning performances, being best of the rest behind McLaren, Ligier will be looking to take the step up and challenge for the title. Ensign may have had a disappointing 1979 season, but with continuity on the engine front and two talented drivers, expect big steps forward from Mo Nunn's boys this year. Charismatic German backmarkers Kauhsen are one of our two new customers this season, as they look to qualify for races on a consistent basis. And finally, we welcome Osella into the Formula One fray, and into the Ferrari fray. With one proven talent and one promising talent, they could pull off some surprises this season.

Pi, Ferrari will test at Imola and Jarama, and we invite all Ferrari-supplied teams to join us at the tests.

Also, PM sent regards engine contracts.

We will not join you on Jarama, as it is also in Ferrari's importance to get data from other racing tracks with other characteristics (in our case Paul Ricard)! Of course we'll accept the invitation for Imola.
And charismatic? You guys probably sniffed too much toxic Vesuvio-lava

We have the charisma of sauerkraut.

On another note: for 1980, Kauhsen will co-operate with their friends from nearby city Düsseldorf, Kraftwerk. Both Kauhsen and Kraftwerk share the same passion for technological innovation, hard working ethics and robots. And both are misunderstood by the common media. Altough it isn't clear what exactly their involvement will be, probably only some kind of arty livery and some pocket calculators. But that's still better than nothing.

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 08 Feb 2014, 17:24

This wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:
SeedStriker wrote:Since the lack of interest from another party during the last days will hinder our 1980 campaign, Parmalat Team Ensign will keep it's ties with Ferrari engines for 1980

Nice to have you onboard for another season!

And with that, Ferrari can reveal their partners for the 1980 season. Looking to consolidate on their stunning performances, being best of the rest behind McLaren, Ligier will be looking to take the step up and challenge for the title. Ensign may have had a disappointing 1979 season, but with continuity on the engine front and two talented drivers, expect big steps forward from Mo Nunn's boys this year. Charismatic German backmarkers Kauhsen are one of our two new customers this season, as they look to qualify for races on a consistent basis. And finally, we welcome Osella into the Formula One fray, and into the Ferrari fray. With one proven talent and one promising talent, they could pull off some surprises this season.

Pi, Ferrari will test at Imola and Jarama, and we invite all Ferrari-supplied teams to join us at the tests.

Also, PM sent regards engine contracts.

We will not join you on Jarama, as it is also in Ferrari's importance to get data from other racing tracks with other characteristics (in our case Paul Ricard)! Of course we'll accept the invitation for Imola.
And charismatic? You guys probably sniffed too much toxic Vesuvio-lava We have the charisma of sauerkraut.

On another note: for 1980, Kauhsen will co-operate with their friends from nearby city Düsseldorf, Kraftwerk. Both Kauhsen and Kraftwerk share the same passion for technological innovation, hard working ethics and robots. And both are misunderstood by the common media. Altough it isn't clear what exactly their involvement will be, probably only some kind of arty livery and some pocket calculators. But that's still better than nothing.

Get used to this Enzo, Wily knows best (As his stellar starting record shows) and he will not listen to anyone. And by the end of the year, he will blame you for his teams problems. Thankfully he always has to leave the races on Friday.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 08 Feb 2014, 17:57

McLaren will be testing at Paul Ricard and Jarama.

Post by **kevinbotz** » 08 Feb 2014, 18:40

Shadow will be testing at Paul Ricard and Jarama.

We will invest 2.4 million on ground effects again.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 08 Feb 2014, 19:13

Wallio wrote:Get used to this Enzo, Wily knows best (As his stellar starting record shows) and he will not listen to anyone. And by the end of the year, he will blame you for his teams problems. Thankfully he always has to leave the races on Friday.

Getting friendly with Mr. Enzo, i see? Already giving up your own engines?

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 08 Feb 2014, 19:18

This wrote:
Wallio wrote:Get used to this Enzo, Wily knows best (As his stellar starting record shows) and he will not listen to anyone. And by the end of the year, he will blame you for his teams problems. Thankfully he always has to leave the races on Friday.

Getting friendly with Mr. Enzo, i see? Already giving up your own engines?

Not at all, but out of respect for Mr. Ferrari I just wanted to warn him about the ungrateful, selfish ninny of a team owner he has aligned with.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 08 Feb 2014, 23:46

Wallio wrote:Not at all, but out of respect for Mr. Ferrari I just wanted to warn him about the ungrateful, selfish ninny of a team owner he has aligned with.

Enzo Osella wrote:Ey ey ey, shaddapa mister whiny bavarian, you talk-a the talk, but you don't-a walk-a the walk. Your engine is a f***ing donkey and all you gonna do is smack-talk people who left you? No no no, it's a disgrace. You got McLaren to win everything for you. You put a Matra in that car, it would still be champion. Pipe down!

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 09 Feb 2014, 00:04

Biscione wrote:
Wallio wrote:Not at all, but out of respect for Mr. Ferrari I just wanted to warn him about the ungrateful, selfish ninny of a team owner he has aligned with.

Enzo Osella wrote:Ey ey ey, shaddapa mister whiny bavarian, you talk-a the talk, but you don't-a walk-a the walk. Your engine is a f***ing donkey and all you gonna do is smack-talk people who left you? No no no, it's a disgrace. You got McLaren to win everything for you. You put a Matra in that car, it would still be champion. Pipe down!

I'm sorry who are you? Never heard of you. Enjoy prequalfying. And yes it's easy to say the McLaren did all the work, but don't forget we took Shadow from 11th to 6th as well. Whatever comforts you as you pack up on Friday though.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 09 Feb 2014, 13:32

Pre-season entry list:

Imola
Tyrrell (Piquet, Lammers)
Boro (Arnoux, Warwick)
Surtees (Amon, Henton)
Kauhsen (Mass, Winkelhock)
Alfa Romeo (Mansell, Cheever)
Ensign (Reutemann, Sneva)
Ferrari (de Angelis, Villeneuve)
Brabham (Rosberg, Scheckter)
Osella (Patrese, Alboreto)

Le Castellet
Tyrrell (Piquet, Lammers)
Boro (Arnoux, Warwick)
Surtees (Amon, Henton)
Kauhsen (Mass, Winkelhock)
Arrows (Laffite, Depailler)
Renault (Prost, Jones)
Williams (Peterson, Pace)
Penske (Andretti, Fittipaldi)
McLaren (Hunt, Pryce)
Shadow (Johansson, Tambay)
Brabham (Rosberg, Scheckter)
Rebaque (Jabouille, Boutsen)
Osella (Patrese, Alboreto)
Project Four (Watson, Daly)

Jarama
March (Ickx,T. Fabi)
Alfa Romeo (Mansell, Cheever)
Arrows (Laffite, Depailler)
Renault (Prost, Jones)
ATS (Surer, Giacomelli)
Williams (Peterson, Pace)
Ferrari (de Angelis, Villeneuve)
Ensign (Reutemann, Sneva)
McLaren (Hunt, Pryce)
Shadow (Johansson, Tambay)
Project Four (Watson, Daly)

Sebring
March (Carter, Ongais)
ATS (Surer, Giacomelli)
Penske (Andretti, Fittipaldi)
Rebaque (de Cesaris, Rebaque)

TBA
Lotus
Wolf
Ligier

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 09 Feb 2014, 13:34

Brabham will test at Imola and Le Castellet, with Scheckter and Rosberg behind the wheel.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 09 Feb 2014, 13:44

Rebaque will test at

Paul Ricard with
Jean-Pierre Jabouille
Thierry Boutsen

Sebring with
Hector Rebaque
Andrea de Cesaris

Post by **Nuppiz** » 09 Feb 2014, 16:23

Our test lineup for Jarama will be Jacky Ickx & Teo Fabi, while at Sebring we'll test Danny Ongais and Pancho Carter.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 09 Feb 2014, 16:30

roblomas52 wrote:Would it be ok if Wolf only did the European races this season due to our money issues?

Sorry for the late reply. There are 11 european races, but you only have money to do 10 of them, unless you get some mid-season prize money. So you either have to withdraw from one race completely, or do two of them with only one car.

Post by **Londoner** » 09 Feb 2014, 16:36

Project 4 will test at Jarama and Le Castellet, with Watson and Daly driving at both tests.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 09 Feb 2014, 19:59

Lotus will test at Sebring and Jarama with Niki Lauda and Rick Mears.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 09 Feb 2014, 21:40

Wolf will test at Sebring and Jarama.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 09 Feb 2014, 21:45

i'm not sure if the budget is updated yet, but i suppose spending 2M on ground effect is doable?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 10 Feb 2014, 00:47

Since this is the first time I've actually been able to do any PMMF stuff since Wednesday, Ligier will test at Paul Ricard and Imola with our race drivers Regazzoni and Pironi.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 10 Feb 2014, 10:31

Ok, everything sorted out for the pre-season test.

However, there seems to be a problem with the Cosworth engine contracts. In case of the Rebaque deal, Rebaque and Cosworth claim different conditions for the deal. So could the other Cosworth customers please send me an e-mail with their interpretation of their contract, so I know if it is just a Rebaque problem, or if it concerns more Cosworth customers.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 10 Feb 2014, 14:11

Maybe I caused that misinterpretation. At first the contract between Rebaque and Cosworth was more favourable to Cosworth. A little time before I resign from Cosworth, I told Rebaque that the contract may be interpreted some other way and maybe I forgot to mention that to Ferrarist.

Sorry for that.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 10 Feb 2014, 22:41

I wanted to upgrade the budgets, but I don't have the Renault contracts yet. CaptainGetz12, could you please send them to me?

CaptainGetz12 · Post by **CaptainGetz12** » 11 Feb 2014, 00:58

pi314159 wrote:I wanted to upgrade the budgets, but I don't have the Renault contracts yet. CaptainGetz12, could you please send them to me?

Which contracts: The teams that bought my engines?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 11 Feb 2014, 06:28

CaptainGetz12 wrote:
pi314159 wrote:I wanted to upgrade the budgets, but I don't have the Renault contracts yet. CaptainGetz12, could you please send them to me?

Which contracts: The teams that bought my engines?

I need to know which teams bought your engine, and how much they're paying. How am I supposed to update the budgets if I don't know that?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 11 Feb 2014, 07:53

First draft of the 1981 chassis regulations:

1981 Chassis regulations:

First of all, you need to build a basic chassis.
Tier / Grip / Top Speed / Rel / Cost
Tier 1** 100-110 / 100-110 / 60-90 (unavailable)
Tier 1* 95-105 / 95-105 / 55-85 (unavailable)
Tier 1: 90-100 / 90-100 / 50-80 / 12 000 000 $
Tier 2: 85-95 / 85-95 / 45-75 / 10 500 000 $
Tier 3: 80-90 / 80-90 / 40-70 / 9 000 000 $
Tier 4: 75-85 / 75-85 / 40-60 / 7 500 000 $
Tier 5: 70-80 / 70-80 / 35-55 / 6 000 000 $
Tier 6: 65-75 / 65-75 / 30-50 / 5 000 000 $
Tier 7: 60-70 / 60-70 / 30-45 / 4 000 000 $
Tier 8: 55-65 / 55-65 / 25-40 / 3 000 000 $
Tier 9: 50-60 / 50-60 / 20-35 / 2 000 000 $
Tier 10: 45-55 / 45-55 / 20-30 / 1 500 000 $
Tier 11: 40-50 / 40-50 / 15-25 / 1 000 000 $
Tier 12: 30-40 / 30-40 / 10-20 / 500 000 $

Then, you can focus on one or two areas of development. If you focus on just one area, you will get the range from two tiers higher in that area. If you focus on two areas, you will get the range from one tier above for those areas.