F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Spain race-Porsche needs manager
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/French race up!
Round 8: Silverstone
Pre Qualifying
Dry
1 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:23.834
2 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:24.044
3 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:24.324
4 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:24.456
5 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:24.808
6 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:25.164
7 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:25.200
8 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:25.280
9 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:27.292
10 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:27.600
11 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:27.746
12 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:27.874
Qualifying
Light Rain
1 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:30.312
2 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:30.540
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:30.566
4 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:31.296
5 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:31.500
6 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:31.516
7 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:31.778
8 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:31.878
9 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:32.074
10 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:32.110
11 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:32.116
12 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:32.364
13 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:32.600
14 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:32.958
15 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:33.210
16 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:33.226
17 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:33.606
18 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:33.668
19 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:34.052
20 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:34.368
21 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:34.650
22 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:35.056
23 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:35.072
24 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:35.236
25 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:35.282
26 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:35.356
27 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:35.702
28 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:36.198
29 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:36.352
30 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:36.604
Pre Qualifying
Dry
1 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:23.834
2 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:24.044
3 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:24.324
4 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:24.456
5 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:24.808
6 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:25.164
7 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:25.200
8 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:25.280
9 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:27.292
10 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:27.600
11 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:27.746
12 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:27.874
Qualifying
Light Rain
1 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:30.312
2 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:30.540
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:30.566
4 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:31.296
5 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:31.500
6 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:31.516
7 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:31.778
8 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:31.878
9 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:32.074
10 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:32.110
11 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:32.116
12 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:32.364
13 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:32.600
14 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:32.958
15 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:33.210
16 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:33.226
17 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:33.606
18 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:33.668
19 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:34.052
20 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:34.368
21 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:34.650
22 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:35.056
23 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:35.072
24 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:35.236
25 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:35.282
26 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:35.356
27 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:35.702
28 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:36.198
29 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:36.352
30 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:36.604
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/French race up!
Round 8: Silverstone
Race
Light rain
1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:33:58.043
2 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:34:01.271
3 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:34:03.492
4 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:34:50.857
5 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:35:22.460
6 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
7 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) -1 laps
8 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
9 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
10 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) -1 laps
11 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
12 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) -2 laps
13 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
14 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
15 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -3 laps
16 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) -3 laps
17 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) -3 laps
- Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF/Driver error lap 45
- Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Suspension lap 44
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Driver error lap 39
- Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) DNF/Driver error lap 31
- Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) DNF/Driver error lap 30
- Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Brakes lap 28
- Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) DNF/Gearbox lap 26
- Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Clutch lap 25
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Clutch lap 24
Fastest Lap: Ayrton Senna
Race
Light rain
1 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:33:58.043
2 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:34:01.271
3 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:34:03.492
4 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:34:50.857
5 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:35:22.460
6 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
7 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) -1 laps
8 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
9 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
10 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) -1 laps
11 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
12 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) -2 laps
13 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) -2 laps
14 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) -2 laps
15 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) -3 laps
16 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) -3 laps
17 JJ Lehto (Dallara-Yamaha) -3 laps
- Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF/Driver error lap 45
- Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) DNF/Suspension lap 44
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Driver error lap 39
- Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) DNF/Driver error lap 31
- Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) DNF/Driver error lap 30
- Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Brakes lap 28
- Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) DNF/Gearbox lap 26
- Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) DNF/Clutch lap 25
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Clutch lap 24
Fastest Lap: Ayrton Senna
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/French race up!
Mid Season
Sponsorship payback
Here is a list off all teams and the money(in m$) which teay have to pay back:
Mclaren 0
Ferrari 0
Benneton 10
Arrows 0
Williams 0
Tyrell 0
Lotus 4,5
Larrousse 2
Brabham 2,5
Minardi 7,5
Ligier 7,5
Dallara 2
Onyx 0
AGS 2
Fondmetal 2,5
Leyton House 4
Coloni 0
Jordan 7,5
Modena 4,5
Every team will be able to get a sponsorship bonus by the end of the season if they are able to meet their sponsors targets(all but Tier C sponsors, because they have no targets). The bonus will be 25% of the initial money you got from this sponsor.
Pre Qualifying
The following teams will have to pre qualify during the second half of the season:
Jordan
Brabham
Fondmetal
Leyton House
Coloni
Modena
Rules&Chassis design
Sponsorship payback
Here is a list off all teams and the money(in m$) which teay have to pay back:
Mclaren 0
Ferrari 0
Benneton 10
Arrows 0
Williams 0
Tyrell 0
Lotus 4,5
Larrousse 2
Brabham 2,5
Minardi 7,5
Ligier 7,5
Dallara 2
Onyx 0
AGS 2
Fondmetal 2,5
Leyton House 4
Coloni 0
Jordan 7,5
Modena 4,5
Every team will be able to get a sponsorship bonus by the end of the season if they are able to meet their sponsors targets(all but Tier C sponsors, because they have no targets). The bonus will be 25% of the initial money you got from this sponsor.
Pre Qualifying
The following teams will have to pre qualify during the second half of the season:
Jordan
Brabham
Fondmetal
Leyton House
Coloni
Modena
Rules&Chassis design
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/French race up!
AGS could probably do with a drag update.
We're out of pre-qualifying now though, which is a bonus. Hopefully having both Alain and Alex on the grid on a regular basis will aid our quest for more points further.
We're out of pre-qualifying now though, which is a bonus. Hopefully having both Alain and Alex on the grid on a regular basis will aid our quest for more points further.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/French race up!
Brabham will help themselves to a weight update. We need to go lighter.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/French race up!
Ataxia wrote:AGS could probably do with a drag update.
We're out of pre-qualifying now though, which is a bonus. Hopefully having both Alain and Alex on the grid on a regular basis will aid our quest for more points further.
Klon wrote:Brabham will help themselves to a weight update. We need to go lighter.
I suppose both tests will be with 3 cars?
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Hermann95 wrote:Ataxia wrote:AGS could probably do with a drag update.
We're out of pre-qualifying now though, which is a bonus. Hopefully having both Alain and Alex on the grid on a regular basis will aid our quest for more points further.Klon wrote:Brabham will help themselves to a weight update. We need to go lighter.
I suppose both tests will be with 3 cars?
Yes, sorry I should have clarified!
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/French race up!
Ataxia wrote:Hermann95 wrote:I suppose both tests will be with 3 cars?
Yes, sorry I should have clarified!
So should have I, because Brabham will actually just use two main cars. Sorry.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Williams will continue testing its traction control system at Donington Park, with all three cars present.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
We will keep testing our sequential gearbox with all three drivers. Donninghton or some other British track, depends on where is possible and are other cars.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Minardi would like to test engine related stuff at Donnington with all three drivers.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
McLaren will begin working on a traction control system with all three drivers at Silverstone.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
As Tyrrells power steering system works now, Tyrrell will start developing a traction control system with all 3 cars testing at silverstone
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Rules & Chassis design
Here is my brand new chassis design system(CDS):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlKPxLinOTyTdGcyd1NwNXVpcVBpYk1QM2s4X1hzVGc&usp=sharing
It is really simple: You choose a base(mendatory) and an upgrade package(optional).
With the base you get a chassis and 10 "free points" which can be used to focus on a particular area of the car(grip, top speed, suspension, reliability or weight).
Each point will make your car better in the choosen area.(+1 for grip, top speed, suspension and reliability; -1 for weight).
The "upgrade packages" 1,2 or 3 for the choosen Base chassis will give you additional "free points".
Aging and "b-versions"
You will be able to make an complete overhaul of your car by making a so called "b-version". If you choose f.e. Upgrade package 1, and you want to make the b version you will have to pay the full price for the higher upgrade package, f.e. upgrade package 3, and you'll get those points. This is only possible twice a year and each chassis generation(A,B,C...) has to run at least 6 races before beeing able to upgrade it to the next version.
Aging is very simple: After the first year, the chassis will be 20% worse. After the second year it will be again 15% worse and from than on 10% per year.
f.e. Grip value of chassis XY:
Season 1(season in which its designed) 100
Season 2 80
Season 3 68
Season 3 61.2
Season 4 55.08
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There will also be an "Engine swap penalty". It will be applied if you change your engine manufacturer and/or the amount of cylinders without redesign the chassis. A new chassis or a "b-version" will take the penalty away.
For 1992, each team will have to build a new chassis. From than on, it will be possible to carry it over to the next season(with the aging penalty applied).
You can start with designing your chassis for 1992 now(vie PM).
You will have to design your chassis before the last race of the season. If you design it after the last race and before the start of sponsor negotiations you will only get 1 pre-season test at the start of the next season. If you design it after sponsor negotiations you won't get any pre-season test!
Here is my brand new chassis design system(CDS):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlKPxLinOTyTdGcyd1NwNXVpcVBpYk1QM2s4X1hzVGc&usp=sharing
It is really simple: You choose a base(mendatory) and an upgrade package(optional).
With the base you get a chassis and 10 "free points" which can be used to focus on a particular area of the car(grip, top speed, suspension, reliability or weight).
Each point will make your car better in the choosen area.(+1 for grip, top speed, suspension and reliability; -1 for weight).
The "upgrade packages" 1,2 or 3 for the choosen Base chassis will give you additional "free points".
Aging and "b-versions"
You will be able to make an complete overhaul of your car by making a so called "b-version". If you choose f.e. Upgrade package 1, and you want to make the b version you will have to pay the full price for the higher upgrade package, f.e. upgrade package 3, and you'll get those points. This is only possible twice a year and each chassis generation(A,B,C...) has to run at least 6 races before beeing able to upgrade it to the next version.
Aging is very simple: After the first year, the chassis will be 20% worse. After the second year it will be again 15% worse and from than on 10% per year.
f.e. Grip value of chassis XY:
Season 1(season in which its designed) 100
Season 2 80
Season 3 68
Season 3 61.2
Season 4 55.08
.
.
.
.
There will also be an "Engine swap penalty". It will be applied if you change your engine manufacturer and/or the amount of cylinders without redesign the chassis. A new chassis or a "b-version" will take the penalty away.
For 1992, each team will have to build a new chassis. From than on, it will be possible to carry it over to the next season(with the aging penalty applied).
You can start with designing your chassis for 1992 now(vie PM).
You will have to design your chassis before the last race of the season. If you design it after the last race and before the start of sponsor negotiations you will only get 1 pre-season test at the start of the next season. If you design it after sponsor negotiations you won't get any pre-season test!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Benetton has agreed to lend Michael Schumacher to BMS Scuderia Italia - Dallara for 3 or 4 races. Schumacher will replace JJ Lehto at Hockeheim and Hungaroring. More to follow depending on Erik Comas' results in these rounds. Comas, Lehto and Pirro all remain under contract, none of them is fired.
Takagi can confirm this if needed.
Takagi can confirm this if needed.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Rated wrote:Benetton has agreed to lend Michael Schumacher to BMS Scuderia Italia - Dallara for 3 or 4 races. Schumacher will replace JJ Lehto at Hockeheim and Hungaroring. More to follow depending on Erik Comas' results in these rounds. Comas, Lehto and Pirro all remain under contract, none of them is fired.
Takagi can confirm this if needed.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Can't go testing to stay on positive financial terms. Well, we'll see what happens now.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Since Lotus is now in debt, and with new chassis rules on the horizon, and an engine in need of much development, I feel I should choose between managing either Lotus or Cosworth, and since I prefer engines, I choose Cosworth. So Lotus is now up for sale. This will give you enough time to start work on the new car. Whoever takes it over will have a factory Cosworth contract, a finished adjustable rear wing, and will not have to worry about pre-qualifying next year. I will of course share any and all data I have on them.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
How I can get designing chassis if my team is on debt? At least we're still somewhat competitive-ish... 

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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Wallio wrote:Since Lotus is now in debt, and with new chassis rules on the horizon, and an engine in need of much development, I feel I should choose between managing either Lotus or Cosworth, and since I prefer engines, I choose Cosworth. So Lotus is now up for sale. This will give you enough time to start work on the new car. Whoever takes it over will have a factory Cosworth contract, a finished adjustable rear wing, and will not have to worry about pre-qualifying next year. I will of course share any and all data I have on them.
Ok, accepted, so Lotus is now without a manager. The next on the waiting list would be Collieafc. He is already managing Yamaha but if he want he can have Lotus.
FMecha wrote:How I can get designing chassis if my team is on debt? At least we're still somewhat competitive-ish...
You'll probably have to wait until the end of the season(after the last race) after you got your price money. This would cost you 1 free testing session. With your current possition you'd get 7m$ price money. If that is not eneough money, you will have to wait until you got your sponsorship money, which would cost you the 2 test too.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Before I send my chassis design plan, I have a question.
You say this:
Now, I currently have a Cosworth unit. If I wanted to design my chassis now, and then switch engine supplier in time for 1992, would this deliver a penalty?
I'm not saying I want to switch, but it's a question that I think is for the benefit of everyone...
You say this:
Hermann95 wrote:There will also be an "Engine swap penalty". It will be applied if you change your engine manufacturer and/or the amount of cylinders without redesign the chassis. A new chassis or a "b-version" will take the penalty away.
Now, I currently have a Cosworth unit. If I wanted to design my chassis now, and then switch engine supplier in time for 1992, would this deliver a penalty?
I'm not saying I want to switch, but it's a question that I think is for the benefit of everyone...
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Ataxia wrote:Before I send my chassis design plan, I have a question.
You say this:Hermann95 wrote:There will also be an "Engine swap penalty". It will be applied if you change your engine manufacturer and/or the amount of cylinders without redesign the chassis. A new chassis or a "b-version" will take the penalty away.
Now, I currently have a Cosworth unit. If I wanted to design my chassis now, and then switch engine supplier in time for 1992, would this deliver a penalty?
I'm not saying I want to switch, but it's a question that I think is for the benefit of everyone...
No, the penalty will only apply if you use your new chassis for more than one year and change the engine as i stated, or you swap the engine mid-season. The new chassis will be designed for the engine you use next season(although we all don't know which one it would be

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Hermann95 wrote:Wallio wrote:Since Lotus is now in debt, and with new chassis rules on the horizon, and an engine in need of much development, I feel I should choose between managing either Lotus or Cosworth, and since I prefer engines, I choose Cosworth. So Lotus is now up for sale. This will give you enough time to start work on the new car. Whoever takes it over will have a factory Cosworth contract, a finished adjustable rear wing, and will not have to worry about pre-qualifying next year. I will of course share any and all data I have on them.
Ok, accepted, so Lotus is now without a manager. The next on the waiting list would be Collieafc. He is already managing Yamaha but if he want he can have Lotus.
Ill see if I can help Lotus out, but if so, can I pass/leave Yamaha? Just as I would find it hard to be impartial if I done both
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Silverstone race up!
Collieafc wrote:Hermann95 wrote:Wallio wrote:Since Lotus is now in debt, and with new chassis rules on the horizon, and an engine in need of much development, I feel I should choose between managing either Lotus or Cosworth, and since I prefer engines, I choose Cosworth. So Lotus is now up for sale. This will give you enough time to start work on the new car. Whoever takes it over will have a factory Cosworth contract, a finished adjustable rear wing, and will not have to worry about pre-qualifying next year. I will of course share any and all data I have on them.
Ok, accepted, so Lotus is now without a manager. The next on the waiting list would be Collieafc. He is already managing Yamaha but if he want he can have Lotus.
Ill see if I can help Lotus out, but if so, can I pass/leave Yamaha? Just as I would find it hard to be impartial if I done both
It's up to you. If you like to manage a team, go with Lotus.
This leaves Yamaha without a manager. I'll manage them(do basically nothing with them) until someone is willed to take them over.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Yamaha searching for new mana
I can have an entry for 92?
the one who read this is probably one who reads one of my posts 

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Yamaha searching for new mana
FRG2000 wrote:I can have an entry for 92?
There are no new entries for 92. I can set you on the waiting list and you'll be the first one who gets a team when it becomes available(if no one leaves the series, Sauber in 1993).
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Yamaha searching for new mana
Honda NSX-Cup: Round 1
Qualyfying
1 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 2:20.585
2 Allan McNish (Williams) 2:20.863
3 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 2:20.876
4 Eric Helary (Ligier) 2:21.122
5 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 2:21.146
6 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 2:21.443
7 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 2:21.452
8 Marco Apicella (Modena) 2:21.482
9 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 2:21.854
10 JC Boullion (Arrows) 2:21.883
11 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 2:21.926
12 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 2:22.066
13 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 2:22.415
14 Simon Kane (Brabham) 2:22.443
15 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 2:22.795
16 Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) 2:23.073
17 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 2:23.094
Race 20 laps
1 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 47:57.082
2 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 48:10.820
3 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 48:12.700
4 Allan McNish (Williams) 48:12.925
5 Eric Helary (Ligier) 48:13.160
6 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 48:14.305
7 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 48:15.598
8 JC Boullion (Arrows) 48:16.151
9 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 48:20.537
10 Simon Kane (Brabham) 48:24.139
11 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 48:25.313
12 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 48:27.012
13 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 48:31.885
14 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 48:32.516
15 Marco Apicella (Modena) 48:33.096
16 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 48:35.767
- Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) DNF/Crash
Point Standings
1 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 10
2 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 6
3 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 4
4 Allan McNish (Williams) 3
5 Eric Helary (Ligier) 2
6 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 1
Qualyfying
1 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 2:20.585
2 Allan McNish (Williams) 2:20.863
3 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 2:20.876
4 Eric Helary (Ligier) 2:21.122
5 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 2:21.146
6 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 2:21.443
7 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 2:21.452
8 Marco Apicella (Modena) 2:21.482
9 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 2:21.854
10 JC Boullion (Arrows) 2:21.883
11 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 2:21.926
12 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 2:22.066
13 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 2:22.415
14 Simon Kane (Brabham) 2:22.443
15 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 2:22.795
16 Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) 2:23.073
17 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 2:23.094
Race 20 laps
1 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 47:57.082
2 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 48:10.820
3 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 48:12.700
4 Allan McNish (Williams) 48:12.925
5 Eric Helary (Ligier) 48:13.160
6 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 48:14.305
7 Emanuele Naspetti (Leyton House) 48:15.598
8 JC Boullion (Arrows) 48:16.151
9 Luca Badoer (Dallara) 48:20.537
10 Simon Kane (Brabham) 48:24.139
11 Naoki Hattori (Onyx) 48:25.313
12 Pedro Chaves (Coloni) 48:27.012
13 Antonio Tamburini (Fondmetal) 48:31.885
14 Jean Denis Delatraz (Jordan) 48:32.516
15 Marco Apicella (Modena) 48:33.096
16 Christian Fittipaldi (Minardi) 48:35.767
- Giovanna Amati (Tyrell) DNF/Crash
Point Standings
1 Mika Salo (Ferrari) 10
2 Olivier Panis (Larrousse) 6
3 Jean-Louis Schlesser (Benneton) 4
4 Allan McNish (Williams) 3
5 Eric Helary (Ligier) 2
6 Jean-Marc Gounon (AGS) 1
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Yamaha searching for new mana
So pleased for Mika. Great win.
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I am willing to take over the Yamaha manager job.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Yamaha manager wanted/NSX-Cup
Good job Olivier!
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Yamaha manager wanted/NSX-Cup
tristan1117 wrote:I am willing to take over the Yamaha manager job.
Ok, thank you for that. I'll send you all necesary data per PM.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/NSX-Cup
Testing
AGS
Drag not succesful
Brabham
Weight succesful
Williams
traction control system worked
Arrows
sequential gearbox system didn't work
Minardi
Engine no new data
Mclaren
traction control system didn't work
Tyrell
traction control system didn't work
Round 9: Hockenheim
Pre-Qualifying
dry
1 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:47.744
2 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:48.254
3 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:48.650
4 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:48.806
5 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:48.918
6 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:49.134
7 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:49.760
8 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:49.814
9 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:50.714
10 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:51.674
11 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:51.818
12 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:52.268
Qualifying
dry
1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:46.212
2 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:46.554
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:46.700
4 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:46.716
5 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:46.754
6 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:46.938
7 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:47.040
8 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:47.336
9 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:47.450
10 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:47.620
11 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:48.050
12 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:48.092
13 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:48.136
14 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:48.158
15 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:48.170
16 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:48.180
17 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:48.198
18 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:48.258
19 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:48.608
20 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:48.746
21 Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:48.776
22 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:49.000
23 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:49.118
24 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:49.162
25 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:49.292
26 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:49.642
27 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:49.862
28 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:50.052
29 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:50.964
30 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:51.056
AGS
Drag not succesful
Brabham
Weight succesful
Williams
traction control system worked
Arrows
sequential gearbox system didn't work
Minardi
Engine no new data
Mclaren
traction control system didn't work
Tyrell
traction control system didn't work
Round 9: Hockenheim
Pre-Qualifying
dry
1 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:47.744
2 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:48.254
3 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:48.650
4 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:48.806
5 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:48.918
6 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:49.134
7 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:49.760
8 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:49.814
9 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:50.714
10 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:51.674
11 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:51.818
12 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:52.268
Qualifying
dry
1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:46.212
2 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:46.554
3 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:46.700
4 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:46.716
5 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:46.754
6 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:46.938
7 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:47.040
8 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:47.336
9 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:47.450
10 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:47.620
11 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:48.050
12 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:48.092
13 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:48.136
14 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:48.158
15 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:48.170
16 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:48.180
17 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:48.198
18 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:48.258
19 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:48.608
20 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:48.746
21 Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:48.776
22 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:49.000
23 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:49.118
24 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:49.162
25 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:49.292
26 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:49.642
27 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:49.862
28 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:50.052
29 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:50.964
30 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:51.056
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/NSX-Cup
Round 9: Hockenheim
Race
1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:21:06.162
2 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:21:48.565
3 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:21:51.901
4 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:22:09.304
5 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:22:22.265
6 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:22:25.190
7 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:22:29.136
8 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) -1 laps
9 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
10 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) -1 laps
11 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
12 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) -1 laps
13 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
14 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) -1 laps
15 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) -2 laps
16 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) -2 laps
17 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) -2 laps
- Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) DNF/Driver error lap 35
- Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Crash lap 34
- Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Clutch lap 30
- Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) DNF/Crash lap 17
- Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 17
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Crash lap 14
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Engine lap 11
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Brakes lap 9
- Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) DNF/Brakes lap 3
Fastest lap: Gerhard Berger
Race
1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:21:06.162
2 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:21:48.565
3 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:21:51.901
4 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:22:09.304
5 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:22:22.265
6 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:22:25.190
7 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:22:29.136
8 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) -1 laps
9 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) -1 laps
10 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) -1 laps
11 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) -1 laps
12 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) -1 laps
13 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) -1 laps
14 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) -1 laps
15 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) -2 laps
16 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) -2 laps
17 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) -2 laps
- Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) DNF/Driver error lap 35
- Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Crash lap 34
- Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) DNF/Clutch lap 30
- Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) DNF/Crash lap 17
- Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) DNF/Engine lap 17
- Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) DNF/Crash lap 14
- Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) DNF/Engine lap 11
- Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) DNF/Brakes lap 9
- Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) DNF/Brakes lap 3
Fastest lap: Gerhard Berger
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hockenheim race up
HORRAH! Points
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hockenheim race up
Dalmas' position is at risk. He will be replaced by Alboreto if he fails to score in the next few races. That is all.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hockenheim race up
I sell the team and this happens, now I know how Tom Walkinsaw felt. Lol Good on you guys. Nice to see the Cosworths qualifying as well.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hockenheim race up
For the next testing session, two cars will focus on the adjustable rear wing and 1 on weight.
Maybe it will be our last test of the year if we decide to focus on 1992
Maybe it will be our last test of the year if we decide to focus on 1992
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hockenheim race up
We are going to do a test session to focus on drag and engine
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hockenheim race up
Round 10: Hungaroring
Pre Qualifying
dry
1 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:13.308
2 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:13.924
3 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:14.028
4 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:14.072
5 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:15.276
6 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:15.296
7 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:15.928
8 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:15.986
9 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:16.598
10 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:16.610
11 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:16.788
12 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:16.838
Qualifying
dry
1 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:12.932
2 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:13.120
3 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:13.176
4 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:13.390
5 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:13.534
6 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:13.618
7 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:13.776
8 Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:13.828
9 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:14.058
10 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:14.128
11 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:14.188
12 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:14.204
13 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:14.222
14 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:14.394
15 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:14.422
16 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:14.440
17 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:14.730
18 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:14.774
19 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:15.226
20 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:15.306
21 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:15.490
22 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:15.556
23 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:15.566
24 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:15.714
25 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:15.826
26 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:15.890
27 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:16.024
28 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:16.106
29 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:16.458
30 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:17.192
Pre Qualifying
dry
1 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:13.308
2 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:13.924
3 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:14.028
4 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:14.072
5 Aguri Suzuki (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:15.276
6 Eddie Irvine (Jordan-Judd) 1:15.296
7 Joachim Winkelhock (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:15.928
8 Bertrand Gachot (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:15.986
9 Oliver Grouillard (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:16.598
10 Nicola Larini (Modena-Lamborghini) 1:16.610
11 Andrea Chiesa (Fondmetal-Judd) 1:16.788
12 Martin Donnelly (Coloni-Ilmor) 1:16.838
Qualifying
dry
1 Karl Wendlinger (Williams-Ilmor) 1:12.932
2 Nigel Mansell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:13.120
3 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:13.176
4 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Ford) 1:13.390
5 Jean Alesi (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:13.534
6 Ayrton Senna (Arrows-Honda) 1:13.618
7 Bernd Schneider (Mclaren-Porsche) 1:13.776
8 Michael Schumacher (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:13.828
9 Alain Prost (AGS-Ford) 1:14.058
10 Johnny Dumfries (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:14.128
11 Mika Hakkinen (Arrows-Honda) 1:14.188
12 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:14.204
13 Yannik Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:14.222
14 Stefano Modena (Benneton-Ilmor) 1:14.394
15 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Jordan-Judd) 1:14.422
16 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Ilmor) 1:14.440
17 Damon Hill (Tyrell-Renault) 1:14.730
18 Riccardo Patrese (Brabham-Lamborghini) 1:14.774
19 Alex Caffi (AGS-Ford) 1:15.226
20 Derek Warwick (Onyx-Porsche) 1:15.306
21 Ivan Capelli (Onyx-Porsche) 1:15.490
22 Andrea de Cesaris (Leyton House-Yamaha) 1:15.556
23 Mark Blundell (Lotus-Ford) 1:15.566
24 Pierluigi Martini (Minardi-Honda) 1:15.714
25 Eric Comas (Dallara-Yamaha) 1:15.826
26 Johnny Herbert (Larrousse-Judd) 1:15.890
27 Martin Brundle (Minardi-Honda) 1:16.024
28 Stefan Johansson (Larrousse-Judd) 1:16.106
29 Gabriele Tarquini (Ligier-Ford) 1:16.458
30 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:17.192
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1991/Hockenheim race up
Tenth! Yes! Points are reasonably possible!
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