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I'm sorry but David Moyes has got to be ROTY. Fergie always made Man Utd greater than the sum of their parts, but surely the least they expected this season was 4th? Instead, they're miles off that and nobody is scared of them. What seals the deal though if how well Martinez has done with Everton. Martinez had exactly the same task as Moyes, to take over a team that had been built up by and reliant upon a long-standing manager (Moyes himself) and have notably improved the team.

No. It just has to be Spurs this season because of one, having AVB as manager. Two, selling Bale to Real Madrid. And 3, swapping the midfield around all the time meaning that there is no continuity within the team. In fact, its a bathpluging miracle that spurs are in the top 6 or 7.


What's new? Tottenham managers are usually useless (that includes Redknapp), often sell on their best players (e.g. Berbatov, Modric, van der Vaart) because they can't satisfy them and have always rotated the midfield.
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David Moyes is ROTY. All he did this season was get his head in a lion's mouth. The way Manchester United have gone from the champions to 8th as of now is mind-boggling. And a lot of it was Moyes's management. I can't see how it isn't him.

And the fact that Everton, the team Moyes did manage, is 5th right now says it all.
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roblomas52 wrote:No. It just has to be Spurs this season because of one, having AVB as manager. Two, selling Bale to Real Madrid. And 3, swapping the midfield around all the time meaning that there is no continuity within the team. In fact, its a bathpluging miracle that spurs are in the top 6 or 7.

Spurs have always been shite. What's new? Just accept that your club is not a top team or title contender and you'll be ok :P
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pasta_maldonado wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:No. It just has to be Spurs this season because of one, having AVB as manager. Two, selling Bale to Real Madrid. And 3, swapping the midfield around all the time meaning that there is no continuity within the team. In fact, its a bathpluging miracle that spurs are in the top 6 or 7.

Spurs have always been shite. What's new? Just accept that your club is not a top team or title contender and you'll be ok :P

Well, Tottenham are a top team and when everything is alligned, genuine title contenders. Just look at the last 2 or 3 seasons. And Spurs have won more silverware than Arsenal in the last 9 years :P
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roblomas52 wrote:Well, Tottenham are a top team and when everything is alligned, genuine title contenders. Just look at the last 2 or 3 seasons. And Spurs have won more silverware than Arsenal in the last 9 years :P


No, no. Tottenham fall short every year.

Why is it that their top players want to jump ship most seasons? It's because Tottenham just don't have the stamina to be competitive through a full season. Being in and around the top 4 doesn't necessarily constitute genuine title contenders, just ask Everton.

If Daniel Levy had been smarter with the club's money and management, they could have taken the fight in the last few years. Instead, they've got a team that doesn't work together since the players rotate more than a coked-up Beyblade, and a set of players that make Andy Carroll look undervalued.

It must be said that the team are doing well to be in 6th or 7th without Gareth Bale...he carried Tottenham for the best part of three seasons.
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Slight change to the topic name. All of the football league can now be added

I've been waiting for Barnsley to be relegated for years now. Just not good enough for the championship anymore
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I think Moyes has ROTY now. Everton just took Manchester United to school, and Man United are now out of Champions League contention.
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Slight change to the topic name. All of the football league can now be added

I've been waiting for Barnsley to be relegated for years now. Just not good enough for the championship anymore


I'm almost inclined to agree, but with the terrible form that both us and Blackpool are in at the moment, Barnsley do have a slight chance of survival.
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Slight change to the topic name. All of the football league can now be added

I've been waiting for Barnsley to be relegated for years now. Just not good enough for the championship anymore


I'm almost inclined to agree, but with the terrible form that both us and Blackpool are in at the moment, Barnsley do have a slight chance of survival.


I wouldn't fancy Barnsley to beat Middlesbrough and QPR but every time I bet against them in an accumulator they always do me in! I'll steer clear of betting in order to help Brum City out.
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Slight change to the topic name. All of the football league can now be added

I've been waiting for Barnsley to be relegated for years now. Just not good enough for the championship anymore


I'm almost inclined to agree, but with the terrible form that both us and Blackpool are in at the moment, Barnsley do have a slight chance of survival.


I wouldn't fancy Barnsley to beat Middlesbrough and QPR but every time I bet against them in an accumulator they always do me in! I'll steer clear of betting in order to help Brum City out.


I've actually bet £10 on us being relegated at 6/1, even if it is to ensure that it doesn't happen.

I've also bet the same amount on Blackpool at 11/8, so as long as either team gets relegated, I make a profit.
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FullMetalJack wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Slight change to the topic name. All of the football league can now be added

I've been waiting for Barnsley to be relegated for years now. Just not good enough for the championship anymore


I'm almost inclined to agree, but with the terrible form that both us and Blackpool are in at the moment, Barnsley do have a slight chance of survival.


Yeovil can't be nominated though because they have thought valiantly to make it this far before getting relegated. What about the Leeds fiasco which ruined play-off hopes?
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Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
FullMetalJack wrote:
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Slight change to the topic name. All of the football league can now be added

I've been waiting for Barnsley to be relegated for years now. Just not good enough for the championship anymore


I'm almost inclined to agree, but with the terrible form that both us and Blackpool are in at the moment, Barnsley do have a slight chance of survival.


Yeovil can't be nominated though because they have thought valiantly to make it this far before getting relegated. What about the Leeds fiasco which ruined play-off hopes?


Nah, nobody expected Yeovil to survive, and they're punching well above their weight just to be in this division. In all honestly, ROTS for Championship should go to whoever gets relegated out of Birmingham and Blackpool.
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I so, so hoped that Yeovil would defy the odds. However, Paddy Madden just couldn't find that form that lifted us from League One, and Ed Upson's gone to Millwall too.

Yeovil are going to have to rebuild, but it should be easier now the club has shown it CAN make its way into the Championship. Attracting someone to replace Ishmael Miller after his loan ends is key.
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Never thought I'd see Wycombe Wanderers in a Relegation tussle considering they are usually one of those teams who gets promoted one minute but is relegated the next.

Confirmed today

Championship
Relegated: Barnsley

League 1
Play off place: Peterborough
Relegated: Shrewsbury

League 2
Promoted: Rochdale (again) Scunthorpe
Play off place: York, Southend
Relegated: Torquay

Bet the manager of Sports Direct (my store) is breaking open the champagne right now over Rochdale
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