Reject of the Race - Spanish GP 2014

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 11 May 2014, 13:47

Maldonado. Just awful.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 11 May 2014, 13:52

Maldonado: Gotta be hasn't it. Crashed again and potted around in 15th while Grosjean held onto 8th
Mclaren: This is just painful, You've got a Mercedes engine for christ sake and you couldn't score as much as a single point
Felipe Massa: What happened to him? Disappeared off the face of the planet after his 2nd stop
Sauber: Useless again, Gutierrez was helpless in those early stages and Sutil was anonymous
Nico Hulkenberg: Yeah he scored but Perez was beating him. That's not how it's should be

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 11 May 2014, 13:53

Ericsson. He won't be on the grid for very much longer.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 May 2014, 13:53

My picks:
Maldonado - keeps finding ways to bin the car and get penalties
McLaren - 6th in the WCC. SIXTH. Great job guys.
Sauber - Not only an anvil, but an anvil that drops pieces. Wonderful.

Post by **Miguel98** » 11 May 2014, 13:57

Maldonado - Trolling around to 15th place, another crash this weekend. Not looking good, mainly if you compare him against Romain.
Mclaren - The podium at Melbourne keeps more and more like a fluke and having Mercedes engines and not scoring points isn't good. Doesn't look good at all.
Sauber - Gutierrez still tried in the beginning, but the vanished and him and Sutil just finished ahead of the backmarkers.

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 11 May 2014, 13:59

Eddie Jordan - Because Eddie Jordan.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 11 May 2014, 13:59

1) Maldonado
2) McLaren

SgtPepper · Post by **SgtPepper** » 11 May 2014, 14:22

1. Madlonado - no surprises here though.
2. Mclaren - getting slightly concerning.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 11 May 2014, 14:27

1. Massa
2. McLaren

Dishon'ble mentions to the Hon'ble Reverend, and Ericsson.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 11 May 2014, 14:36

Malolnado. Again. For sure.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 11 May 2014, 14:36

Felipe Massa: Bad, very bad race. I give my ROTR for him instead of Maldonado, because he, at least, finished in 15th despite that penalty (for me, it was a race incident). But Massa didn't make work his strategy and finished behind both Mclarens.

Special mention for:
Sauber: finished behind Maldonado, who got a Stop/Go penalty.
Mclaren: another 0 points weekend.
Maldonado: Your team mate got some points and you... At least, he recovered well from the penalty.
Caterham: Well beaten by Marussia during all weekend.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 11 May 2014, 14:47

Everyone but Mercedes - You know when your car is a dog when the two leaders are a pitstop ahead in under 20 laps. Everyone has been caught off guard by the potency of the Merc, and right now, I can't see anyone getting their shite together enough to be able to mount a serious challenge to Mercedes before 2015.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 11 May 2014, 14:50

1)Pastor Maldonado: The return of "Crashtor" only means bad news for Lotus

2)McLaren: Simply anonymous all race

Dishonorable mention for Sauber (still sucks)

The Sleeping Pill Award goes to the first half of the race

Post by **mario** » 11 May 2014, 15:07

SgtPepper wrote:1. Madlonado - no surprises here though.
2. Mclaren - getting slightly concerning.

I have to agree with that order - Maldonado could potentially have finished in the points if he hadn't thrown his car into the barriers given the sort of performance he showed during the practise sessions, but wasted that potential.

As for McLaren, the car has shown occasional flashes of pace but, if some of Button's comments are to be believed, the car has far too narrow an operating window to consistently take advantage of its potential. They've been beaten by several teams that have substantially fewer resources and, although the team is updating the car, the developments just don't seem to be really pushing them that far up the grid.

I also agree with others who have suggested that Massa gets an honourable mention at the very least - whilst he did initially make some ground up off the start, he just continued to fade as the race went on and slipped back fairly rapidly (even if part of that was down to being on the wrong strategy).

pasta_maldonado wrote:Everyone but Mercedes - You know when your car is a dog when the two leaders are a pitstop ahead in under 20 laps. Everyone has been caught off guard by the potency of the Merc, and right now, I can't see anyone getting their shite together enough to be able to mount a serious challenge to Mercedes before 2015.

That did owe a bit to Bottas somewhat backing up the pack, as it did look as if Bottas was holding Ricciardo up in the opening laps, plus to a certain extent you wonder if Vettel might have been a bit closer had he not started all the way down in 15th (his pace at times was quite strong). I could possibly see the Red Bulls providing some threat to Mercedes at the highest downforce circuits - Monaco and the Hungaroring - and, if Renault do make steady improvements over the season, becoming a possible threat towards the end of the season (though probably too late in the season to make much difference).

[EDIT] Actually, thinking about it, Toro Rosso deserve an honourable mention (or perhaps that should be dishonourable mention) for Vergne's retirement - that is the second time that Vergne has retired from a race due to mechanical problems, which means that he now has the joint highest number of retirements so far this season (three, which is the same as Sutil).

SgtPepper · Post by **SgtPepper** » 11 May 2014, 15:09

pasta_maldonado wrote:Everyone but Mercedes - You know when your car is a dog when the two leaders are a pitstop ahead in under 20 laps. Everyone has been caught off guard by the potency of the Merc, and right now, I can't see anyone getting their shite together enough to be able to mount a serious challenge to Mercedes before 2015.

I have a feeling the Red Bull will be there or there abouts towards the very end of the season, but it looks incredibly unlikely before that. Either way, at least we're getting to see some really great battles for the lead while they dominate.

sw3ishida · Post by **sw3ishida** » 11 May 2014, 15:36

Firstly, honourable mention to both Caterham and Marcus Ericsson. Neither driver nor team looked like impressing anybody throughout the weekend and one wonders how long Caterham's managerial changes will be given to work and how long Ericsson has left with these anonymous performances.

However, I think I have to join in in proclaiming Sauber as the masters of all anonymity. Unless you're Caterham, when your only mention throughout the coverage of a race is effectively Graeme Lowdon of Marussia saying they genuinely think they can compete with your team very soon, something is wrong.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 11 May 2014, 15:39

Actually struggling to think of any obvious choices!! We expect this from Maldonado, and McLaren and Sauber are more generally ROTY worthy than ROTR!

GerhardTalger · Post by **GerhardTalger** » 11 May 2014, 15:43

The race itself should at least get a honourable mention... apart from the last 10 laps or so it was just an awful sit-out to watch.. it didn't even make me cheer a bit. Also Sauber was pretty poor once more..

But yeah, the obivous winner is..

1. Maldonado - Binning it once more in qualifying when finally given a decent car. Horribly outclassed by Grosjean in the race... and all the while he took another penalty by colliding with Ericsson. I'm fed up with the guy
2. McLaren - 2013 doesn't seem to be an incident.. but more likely the new standard. Lewis is chuckling in his Merc.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 11 May 2014, 15:47

Maldonado - I wonder if he remembers winning this race once?
Luca de Montezemolo - Enough with the moaning and take some positive action!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 11 May 2014, 15:52

SgtPepper wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Everyone but Mercedes - You know when your car is a dog when the two leaders are a pitstop ahead in under 20 laps. Everyone has been caught off guard by the potency of the Merc, and right now, I can't see anyone getting their shite together enough to be able to mount a serious challenge to Mercedes before 2015.

I have a feeling the Red Bull will be there or there abouts towards the very end of the season, but it looks incredibly unlikely before that. Either way, at least we're getting to see some really great battles for the lead while they dominate.

That is a bonus. I'm particularly looking forward to how the battle plays out in Monaco, and whether Rosberg can get the jump on Hamilton and win the race.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 11 May 2014, 15:54

GerhardTalger wrote:The race itself should at least get a honourable mention... apart from the last 10 laps or so it was just an awful sit-out to watch..

A typical Barcelona race for the most part then.

rachel1990 · Post by **rachel1990** » 11 May 2014, 16:16

Its a tough one but it comes down to two nominations
Mclaren will be nominated for ANOTHER useless weekend. Seriously its worse than 2013.

But my ROTR goes to Maldonado for ANOTHER crashtastic weekend. Seriously he must cost more than what he brings in.

RAK · Post by **RAK** » 11 May 2014, 16:41

Pastor Maldonado: Crashes in qualifying, putting him at the back of the grid. Crashes with a Sauber, giving him a stop/go penalty. Just a general hazard. All over the shop.

LellaLombardi · Post by **LellaLombardi** » 11 May 2014, 16:59

Maldonado - why is he even still in F1?
McLaren - Perez must be glad to be out of there.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 11 May 2014, 17:25

The Current State of Formula 1: Before going to sleep I wrote down what I expected the finishing order to be. Got the first 3 right. I missed the race.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 11 May 2014, 17:31

The Monkeyman In Charge Of The World Feed - I mean, come the bathplug on, it's the final overtaking spot on the final lap and you show Rosberg's bit...burger-prefering fiancee? Are you insane, drunk or did you just need to knock out a crafty one?

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 11 May 2014, 18:54

The TV coverage was pretty dreadful. So were McLaren - now expected. So was Maldonado - and as that is now pretty much also expected, I am going to give it to Massa instead for being utterly rubbish compared to Bottas, especially after his last stop.

Post by **Londoner** » 11 May 2014, 19:44

BBC iPlayer - It's 6 hours since the race finished (there or thereabouts), and it's still not available to watch.

Felipe Massa - Considering I had to watch the SKY highlights, what on earth happened to him? He was running in the lower points, and suddenly we get a jump of about 10 laps, and he's in 14th?
The Reverend - Please stop crashing, that way the casuals won't hate on you.

Sauber - BLEH

But ROTR has to go to:

McLaren - There's no excuse now Enoch. Slap them their long-overdue overall ROTR.

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 11 May 2014, 20:06

Maldonado for a poor weekend. Blaming the tyres for the quali crash is ridiculous. Brundle always says these guys are highly paid heating engineers and so the blame must fall to him. And his race tangle was very reminiscent of Maldonado crashes of days gone by.

The Race Director deserves a mention for the lingering shot of Rosberg's fiance during the last lap. Seriously? 1st and 2nd covered by less than a second and the guy in 2nd is quicker and you choose to focus on his missus? Appalling.

Given up on Sauber and McLaren this year. Sauber are just dull and McLaren won't be improving until the change in structure is settled and begins to deliver. Just as it did at all the other teams that have gone up and down in the past.

Sunshine_Baby_[IT] · Post by **Sunshine_Baby_[IT]** » 11 May 2014, 20:11

I would like to mention Maldonado's bad race or Massa's bad race, but my reject of the race is Eddie Jordan's shirt. :lol:

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 11 May 2014, 20:33

Nominating McLaren, because they have to win sometime

Alternate nomination for Eddie Jordan for giving a bland interview on the podium. Still waiting for Jeremy Clarkson to have a go...

Meatwad · Post by **Meatwad** » 11 May 2014, 22:22

BigG80 wrote:The Race Director deserves a mention for the lingering shot of Rosberg's fiance during the last lap. Seriously? 1st and 2nd covered by less than a second and the guy in 2nd is quicker and you choose to focus on his missus? Appalling.

Klon wrote:The Monkeyman In Charge Of The World Feed - I mean, come the bathplug on, it's the final overtaking spot on the final lap and you show Rosberg's bit...burger-prefering fiancee? Are you insane, drunk or did you just need to knock out a crafty one?

If they need to include unnecessary shots of the drivers' girlfriends, why not Gutiérrez's?

I nominate Malfunctionado (I like that nickname). He just never learns. He must be one of the worst drivers to win a Grand Prix, if not the worst.

watka · Post by **watka** » 11 May 2014, 22:31

I feel like a stuck record: Maldonado, Sauber, McLaren, Maldonado, Sauber, McLaren, Maldonado...

So instead, I'll pull out the old chestnut of nominating the track as ROTR. Barcelona has never been an interesting enough circuit to be on the calendar and ending testing there hasn't made any difference. There are at least 3 other tracks in Spain (Valencia Ricardo Tormo, Jerez, Aragon, heck maybe even Navarra) capable of hosting the Grand Prix, so mix it up a bit please.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 11 May 2014, 22:42

Oh, and a dishounourable mention to the BBC coverage. Suzy Perry is an awful presenter, really. How long ago do the pre-Sky days seem now? Best overall coverage I've witnessed in my life, thoroughly enjoyable.

wsrgo · Post by **wsrgo** » 11 May 2014, 23:33

East Londoner wrote:Felipe Massa - Considering I had to watch the SKY highlights, what on earth happened to him? He was running in the lower points, and suddenly we get a jump of about 10 laps, and he's in 14th?

His was a classic case of not being able to make a three-stop work. Williams's race pace was pretty poor today.

More_Blue_Flags · Post by **More_Blue_Flags** » 12 May 2014, 00:04

For an individual - Maldonado by a fair margin. I will give Massa the benefit of the doubt, as his drop in form may be due to an indifferent strategy decision (see some of my ROTR comments for earlier races in reference to Williams'decision making and management capabilities).

For a collective - McLaren and Sauber are still woeful. Well before pre-season testing I had expected McLaren to have a lean year until getting a Honda engine in 2015, but even before the false dawn of pre-season testing pace and the Melbourne podium I didn't expect them to be this uncompetitive and bland.

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 12 May 2014, 08:44

Meatwad wrote:
BigG80 wrote:The Race Director deserves a mention for the lingering shot of Rosberg's fiance during the last lap. Seriously? 1st and 2nd covered by less than a second and the guy in 2nd is quicker and you choose to focus on his missus? Appalling.

Klon wrote:The Monkeyman In Charge Of The World Feed - I mean, come the bathplug on, it's the final overtaking spot on the final lap and you show Rosberg's bit...burger-prefering fiancee? Are you insane, drunk or did you just need to knock out a crafty one?

If they need to include unnecessary shots of the drivers' girlfriends, why not Gutiérrez's?

I nominate Malfunctionado (I like that nickname). He just never learns. He must be one of the worst drivers to win a Grand Prix, if not the worst.

[Objectifyingwomenmode]My personal favourite is Sutil's girlfriend. She looks icy but has a really lovely warm smile.[/Objectifyingwomenmode]

I'm not sure I understand why people always nominate the race if there isn't much action. This is F1 where the fastest car is given a clear run at the start and drivers practically trained from birth to drive the cars are behind the wheel. And even before these days of high professionalism, the fact is that many F1 races are processions as overtaking is a difficult thing to do on a road course.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 12 May 2014, 08:58

BigG80 wrote:I'm not sure I understand why people always nominate the race if there isn't much action. This is F1 where the fastest car is given a clear run at the start and drivers practically trained from birth to drive the cars are behind the wheel. And even before these days of high professionalism, the fact is that many F1 races are processions as overtaking is a difficult thing to do on a road course.

Tell me about it. Seems to be a more common complaint on here aswell of all places, I'd expect it on the other normal (i.e. tediously fanboyist) F1 forums :roll:

I saw plenty yesterday to enjoy and I feel condescendingly bad for those that didnt.

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 12 May 2014, 11:08

I certainly don't mind a slow burner like yesterday where the tension of the two strategies coming together at the end started gradually ratcheting up and up towards the end. I also saw some stunning overtakes, mainly from Vettel and also drivers struggling to drive the cars. All good stuff to me.

If every race was like Bahrain this year or Canada for most of the last few years then those races would lose the magic, breathless excitement that they hold. You need "boring" races to make the "exciting" races exciting. This is how emotions work!

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 12 May 2014, 11:23

Maldonado, Sauber and McLaren poor performances are too normal now for me to award ROTR (though ROTY they are all strong contenders)

I am going to go something different and say The Red Bull mechanic\engineer who told Riccardo to back off from Bottas after just 6 laps or so into the race to "save his tyres." Although this problem is not just a Red Bull thing, it sums up why I find F1 these days rather boring as with the people in the pits dictating pace it feels like drivers are just cogs in scaletrix cars

To Riccardo's credit, he by and large ignored it.