Jules Bianchi IIDotR - 2014 Monaco Grand Prix

Vassago · Post by **Vassago** » 25 May 2014, 14:20

btw, Caterham has no grounds on appeal since the rules were changed specifically before this year and it's a stonewall 5 secs. penalty and nothing more. Even the TV graphics adjusted that immediately after the race.

Post by **tommykl** » 25 May 2014, 14:21

1. Jules bathpluggin' Bianchi
2. Eh... Kevin Magnussen

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 25 May 2014, 14:37

Ed24 wrote:
dinizintheoven wrote:However, there is the huge probability that a penalty will be applied, and if - AND ONLY IF - it was Bianchi himself who decided that he should take his original five-second penalty while the safety car was out, and IF that drops him so far down the timesheets that it hands a point to Marcus Ericsson of all people, then I will officially withdraw my nomination for Bianchi as IIDOTR and... well, leave it blank, because I can't think of anyone else who comes close.

It's been confirmed he will only have 5 seconds added to his time so has finished 9th.

That... sort of went through my mind - I wondered if he'd be forced to make another pit stop just to make sure the penalty was served, whether or not he had to take on tyres, but that would be a drive-through and more.

Glad that's all cleared up and there can be a pan-forum celebration!

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 25 May 2014, 14:47

1. Bianchi - duh
2. Ericsson - So close to condemning Sauber to last in the Constructors Championship

LeytonHouse · Post by **LeytonHouse** » 25 May 2014, 14:49

1. Bianchi - Hero
2. JEV - Very Unlucky

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 25 May 2014, 14:54

1)Jules Bianchi: A strong, solid drive that put Marussia for the first time in the scoreboard. I can see a Ferrari drive on his future.

2)Marcus Ericsson: As I said earlier, the kid is getting the grip of the car, and this brilliant drive not only put Cowboy to shame, but put Caterham closer to leave the last place in the WCC

Honorable mentions to Daniel Ricciardo (keep smiling, son. That's good for the buisness), (lack of) Reliability (strange to finally see two turbochargers blown in the slowest cirtuit of the calendar, but I don't mind), McLaren (silent run into points)

The Clash of the Titans Award goes to Adrian Sutil with the risky overtakes at Grand Casino AND Jules Bianchi for owning Cowboy at the Rascasse

Rated · Post by **Rated** » 25 May 2014, 15:43

1. JULES BIANCHI. JULES BIANCHI. JULES BIANCHI.
2. Marcus Ericsson

Honorable mentions : Daniel Ricciardo, JEV, Adrian Sutil.

Post by **Ataxia** » 25 May 2014, 15:53

I'm going to vote for Rosberg for keeping the pace, and also for Grosjean for doing a mammoth stint on the super softs...

...

...nah, I'm messing. Bianchi and Ericsson.

Paul Hayes · Post by **Paul Hayes** » 25 May 2014, 16:10

I always thought (and hoped) from the start of the season that Kobayashi would be the man to break the duck for the "young teams"... But ah well. It's impossible not to feel happy for Bianchi and all at Marussia!

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 25 May 2014, 16:27

Bianchi - I always thought he would be the one to break the duck, and as I really don't like Tony Fernandes, this make me very happy.

Ericsson - Kept his nose clean today, didn't he? Not many others did!

Honourable mention to Hulkenberg for doing a very good job again. Not as unlikely as the above perhaps, although that pass on Magnussen certainly was!

RAK · Post by **RAK** » 25 May 2014, 17:13

1) Jules Bianchi: Need I say any more?

2) Attrition!: Finally see poor reliability and driver mistakes - to the benefit of the race action.

Honourable Mentions: Daniel Ricciardo, Nico Hulkenburg, Romain Grosjean. Actually, add Marcus Ericsson and Max Chilton to that as well.

Post by **mario** » 25 May 2014, 18:25

Barbazza wrote:Bianchi - I always thought he would be the one to break the duck, and as I really don't like Tony Fernandes, this make me very happy.

Ericsson - Kept his nose clean today, didn't he? Not many others did!

Honourable mention to Hulkenberg for doing a very good job again. Not as unlikely as the above perhaps, although that pass on Magnussen certainly was!

Whilst I do think that Hulkenberg is quite a good driver, asides from the pass on Magnussen I'd say that Hulkenberg's race was a solid but otherwise not spectacular affair. Throughout the practise sessions, he'd consistently been in the lower part of the top 10 in terms of pace (roughly about 8th to 9th fastest) and slightly shaded by Perez, who looked the slightly quicker driver of the two.
Once you take Perez, Kimi and Vettel out of the equation, 5th place is about where you would have expected him to have ended up - if anything, I'd be more inclined to give Massa a honourable mention for climbing up through the field to 7th place given that Williams's strategy was a fairly high risk one.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 25 May 2014, 18:33

1) Bianchi
2) Kyvat

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 25 May 2014, 19:08

1. Yet another vote for Bianchi

2. I'm actually going to say Rosberg for getting to his beloved teammate.

Dj_bereta · Post by **Dj_bereta** » 25 May 2014, 19:30

1 - Bianchi: Scored first points for Marussia. Nuff said.
2 - Hulkenberg: Clever strategy reward him with a well deserved 5th place.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 25 May 2014, 19:48

Dj_bereta wrote:1 - Bianchi: Scored first points for Marussia. Nuff said.
2 - Hulkenberg: Clever strategy reward him with a well deserved 5th place.

I'm seconding this.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 25 May 2014, 19:59

1) Bianchi
2) Irrelevant

Just so his margin of victory is as big as possible.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 25 May 2014, 20:57

Best way to put it.

1. Bianchi
2. Marussia

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 25 May 2014, 21:17

1. Bianchi - Who else??? I still don't have a clue as to how they got up that high in the race!
2. McLaren - Genuinely impressed me given their struggles in the past races. Such a shame Magnussen got involved in an incident late in the race.

This race put up lots of great candidates, so here's my shortlist that still gets points in the vote here:
Toro Rosso - Had both drivers in the points, unlucky that they didn't score at all
Rosberg - Held off Hamilton for the whole race, nuff said
Hulkenberg - Fifth for Force India. I'm starting to think this is all becoming standard for this team...
Gutierrez - Also impressed until he spun out of the race.
Marussia and Caterham - Both teams kept it together and competed when everyone ahead of them (Sauber, I'm looking at you) fell out of the race

sw3ishida · Post by **sw3ishida** » 25 May 2014, 21:22

So, my 10 points for the seemingly Jules Bianchi award go to

Jules Bianchi

And my six points, as irrelevant as they are in the Bianchi bonanza go to Nico Hulkenberg. Very solid, if quiet performance as usual

LellaLombardi · Post by **LellaLombardi** » 25 May 2014, 21:25

Bleu wrote:Best way to put it.

1. Bianchi
2. Marussia

Same for me too.

I am just so happy for them. They have been through a lot and I know the Maria De Villotta accident was a particularly tough time for them. I hope they are having a mahoosive party tonight.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 25 May 2014, 22:59

No contest, Jules Bianchi

Rocks with Salt · Post by **Rocks with Salt** » 26 May 2014, 00:30

1. Jules Bianchi. Just finished watching the race on my DVR, and the American commentators were freaking out about Bianchi having to serve another stop-go penalty and then wondering why he hadn't come in to serve it after ten laps :roll:

Had to check Reddit to make sure he kept the points, and indeed he (mostly) did! With everything else happening in this race, Monaco 2014 is now at the top of my replay list.

2. Ryan Hunter-Reay. Because I can.

Honorable mention: FOM TV Director. At least for the second half of the race. I'll make a point of nominating him for ROTR, too, but at least after the second safety car they didn't just keep the cameras glued to the Mercedes all day, and even gave some airtime to Bianchi!

EDIT: Changing second place. Because I can.

Onxy Wrecked · Post by **Onxy Wrecked** » 26 May 2014, 01:18

Bianchi, two penalties and 9th in a Marussia? It's a matter of time before he's in a Ferrari now.

Normal32 · Post by **Normal32** » 26 May 2014, 02:07

1.JULES BIANCHI!!!!!!!!!
2.Ericsson,same as above

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 26 May 2014, 03:26

1. JULES BIAAAAANNNNCCCCHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIII
Nuff said.

2. Marcus Ericsson - After his antics on Thursday and Saturday, this was a great way to rebounce from that. Shame another car didn't retire in front of him.

sswishbone · Post by **sswishbone** » 26 May 2014, 07:35

*begins typing vote, sees title, stops*

easiest decision ever

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 26 May 2014, 07:38

Bianchi for me too. I bloody loves Monaco I do.

Post by **mario** » 26 May 2014, 08:48

Onxy Wrecked wrote:Bianchi, two penalties and 9th in a Marussia? It's a matter of time before he's in a Ferrari now.

Mind you, many have also thought that Hulkenberg would be in a Ferrari seat by now given their interest in him, so it will probably still be a while yet before Bianchi can hope to move to Ferrari.

At least there is one nice touch from this weekend - it seems that even Jean Todt went over to Marussia to congratulate them on their success:

And he wasn't the only person heading to Marussia to congratulate them either:

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 26 May 2014, 09:35

Rocks with Salt wrote:Honorable mention: FOM TV Director. At least for the second half of the race. I'll make a point of nominating him for ROTR, too, but at least after the second safety car they didn't just keep the cameras glued to the Mercedes all day, and even gave some airtime to Bianchi!

This was in fact the only race all year in which FOM did not produce the world feed/TV pictures. It was in fact Monaco's own TV broadcaster, Tele Monte Carlo, that did the world feed. I like the fact that there is still a host broadcaster in F1, but it was frustrating that TMC did not follow Bianchi as he crossed the line, especially since Monaco is practically Bianchi's home race!

Kobacrashi · Post by **Kobacrashi** » 26 May 2014, 09:39

1. Jules Bianchi - I bet Richard Branson wishes he stuck around now! LOL

Seriously though, this is why the website exists for genuinely meteoric heroic performances, the pass on Kobayashi, starting last on the grid and effectively serving his penalty TWICE! 5 Years in the making.

I haven't been this happy since Alonso was overtaken by a Super Aguri all them years back.

2. The return of the blown engine to F1. The sound of JEV's engine letting go was like a good old friend that I haven't seen in years.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 26 May 2014, 09:48

mario wrote:Mind you, many have also thought that Hulkenberg would be in a Ferrari seat by now given their interest in him, so it will probably still be a while yet before Bianchi can hope to move to Ferrari.

Ferrari needs fresh drivers. Bianchi is logical (part of Ferrari's YDA), and Hülkenberg should be considered for his solid consistency (he's 5th in the WDC, which of course, involves Vettel's mishaps, but he's still reasonably ahead of Kimi).
Come on Montezuma, think of the future. :roll:

There's going to be a retirement from both current drivers at one point. Kimi might be bored and hang up after 2014, and Alonso has also been in the sport since 2001. Maybe Alonso will stay with Bianchi in 2015, to have his seat for Hulk in 16?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 26 May 2014, 10:19

Well, it is so obvious... Jules Bianchi gets my first vote, my second vote and all my honorable mentions.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 26 May 2014, 10:36

1. Binachi
2. Engine Unreliability

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 26 May 2014, 12:20

mario wrote:
Onxy Wrecked wrote:Bianchi, two penalties and 9th in a Marussia? It's a matter of time before he's in a Ferrari now.

Mind you, many have also thought that Hulkenberg would be in a Ferrari seat by now given their interest in him, so it will probably still be a while yet before Bianchi can hope to move to Ferrari.

At least there is one nice touch from this weekend - it seems that even Jean Todt went over to Marussia to congratulate them on their success:

And he wasn't the only person heading to Marussia to congratulate them either:

And the TV also picked up Toto Wolff congratulating them too

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 26 May 2014, 15:50

Whilst Caterham are silently packing-up next door. Awkward...

W12 · Post by **W12** » 26 May 2014, 15:57

1. BIANCHIIIIIII
2. Unreliablity

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 26 May 2014, 17:59

1. Bianchi: Screw Chilton! We've got the real talent right here!

2. Ericsson: Very respectable drive from him.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 May 2014, 18:09

East Londoner wrote:1. Jules Bianchi - No question whatsoever. Anyone who doesn't vote for him, piss off to the Autosport forums right now.

2. Reliability - Finally, we get the lel rel we were promised.

W12 wrote:1. BIANCHIIIIIII
2. Unreliablity

What they said.

Post by **mario** » 26 May 2014, 18:23

AdrianSutil wrote:Whilst Caterham are silently packing-up next door. Awkward...

And if the rumours that Fernandes is trying to shift the team is true, it might not be too long until they're packing away for good...

Shizuka wrote:
mario wrote:Mind you, many have also thought that Hulkenberg would be in a Ferrari seat by now given their interest in him, so it will probably still be a while yet before Bianchi can hope to move to Ferrari.

Ferrari needs fresh drivers. Bianchi is logical (part of Ferrari's YDA), and Hülkenberg should be considered for his solid consistency (he's 5th in the WDC, which of course, involves Vettel's mishaps, but he's still reasonably ahead of Kimi).
Come on Montezuma, think of the future.

There's going to be a retirement from both current drivers at one point. Kimi might be bored and hang up after 2014, and Alonso has also been in the sport since 2001. Maybe Alonso will stay with Bianchi in 2015, to have his seat for Hulk in 16?

At least it could be said that Alonso has generally consistently delivered for the team and continues to do so - you're right, though, that Alonso is unlikely to be staying on for too many more years, whilst Kimi is both older than Alonso and seemingly struggling a bit more to adapt. I could almost see a situation where Ferrari lose both drivers - Alonso's relationship with the team has soured over consistently inferior cars, whilst I'm not sure I can see Kimi staying for much longer either.

Perhaps Ferrari are in the slightly advantageous position that, right now, Hulkenberg doesn't seem to have any option but to stay put for now - Mercedes aready has a strong driver line up, Red Bull are similarly a closed shop and McLaren seem somewhat scornful of Hulkenberg, whilst uncertainty over their future prospects has already put Hulkenberg off from Lotus.

Still, it does seem to be the case that Ferrari are perhaps relying too heavily on veterans at a time when they need something of a fresh start - yes, they have up and coming drivers like Bianchi and, just below him, Marciello, but there seems to be some resistance to making the final step and putting a driver into their team. I wonder if, perhaps, there is a fear that there could be a repeat of what happened to Perez when he went to McLaren - that the added pressure and demands placed on a young driver who is racing for a major team could prove to be overwhelming, such that they are hesitating on taking that risk?