The Marco Simoncelli MotoGP Thread

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 05 May 2014, 18:11

Hayden's right hand post-race:

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 18 May 2014, 11:47

Nice to see Nico Rosberg in the paddock, visiting Valentino's box first and Jorge's second.
Great! race by Jack Miller in Moto3. I missed Moto2.
Race in thirteen minutes, hoping for a good one. MM goes for five in a row. Can he do it? :shock:

I hope VR takes another podium..

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 19 May 2014, 05:17

Jocke1 wrote:MM goes for five in a row. Can he do it?
I hope VR takes another podium...

May your wishes come true like that

Because both happened.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 19 May 2014, 19:27

Have to say, old Valentino is in the prime time if Marquez ends up coming off and injuring himself - these consistent finishes have kept him in touch with Pedrosa, who himself, with Lorenzo so off-colour, stands his best chance at winning a title if Marquez does miss a few races.

Obviously Rossi doesn't have that last tenth that he used to have, but it's great to see him still be successful on a bike that clearly is no match for the Honda. It just shows how utterly awful the Ducati was (and still is).

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 20 May 2014, 07:46

AndreaModa wrote:Obviously Rossi doesn't have that last tenth that he used to have, but it's great to see him still be successful on a bike that clearly is no match for the Honda. It just shows how utterly awful the Ducati was (and still is).

And he's technically spent 1,5 decades in this class, which makes all this more of an achievement. :shock:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 31 May 2014, 18:36

Iannone

Top speed record (349.6 kmph), second on the grid!

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 31 May 2014, 20:16

Shizuka wrote:Iannone
Top speed record (349.6 kmph), second on the grid!

The Ducati engine is good, but he has mostly Rossi to thank for that.
It was a bit of a let-down that he didn't even mention Rossi's help during his press conference.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 31 May 2014, 20:45

That was a shame indeed. :oops:

F1000X · Post by **F1000X** » 01 Jun 2014, 00:06

Jocke1 wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Iannone
Top speed record (349.6 kmph), second on the grid!

The amazing thing is that the numbers coming off the bike telemetry are even higher. If I remember correctly, Autosport reported last year the Hondas were hitting 223mph.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 01 Jun 2014, 12:50

That Moto3 finish!!!

Now this is close!

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 01 Jun 2014, 14:06

Shizuka wrote:That Moto3 finish!!!

Now this is close!

Sad I missed it

Also, Lorenzo didn't win because he nailed the final corner in a not too corret wa y...

But 6 STRAIGHT now for Marc

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Jun 2014, 15:19

Shizuka wrote:That Moto3 finish!!!

Now this is close!

That must all be within 0.001 s! What were the official gaps/results?

And is anybody following the Manx TT on here? (I'm doing so purely through ITV4's 9 pm highlights show).

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 01 Jun 2014, 15:59

Jeez, that's awfully close! The numbers don't lie either...

1. Romano Fenati, KTM
2. Issac Vinales, KTM, +0.010
3. Alex Rins, Honda, +0.011
4. Miguel Oliveira, Mahindra, +0.121
5. Niklas Ajo, Husqvarna, +0.260
6. Alessandro Tonucci, Honda, +0.359
7. Juanfran Guevara, Mahindra, +0.597

Surely one of the closest finishes in motorsports?

http://resources.motogp.com/files/resul ... 1_5dee423e

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 01 Jun 2014, 19:59

Aerospeed wrote:1. Romano Fenati, KTM
2. Issac Vinales, KTM, +0.010

I still remember when Elias beat Rossi by nothing and a bit;

1. Toni ELIAS Fortuna Honda 46'08.739
2. Valentino ROSSI Camel Yamaha Team +0.002

Speaking of Rossi, nice way to celebrate 300 GP's today. From 10th to 4th in a little over two laps.
And three straight podiums.

But what can you say about Marc Marquez?
That little rascal rides beautifully. The way he was sliding his Honda those last two laps. Beautiful.

That crash from Bradl into Crutchlow's Ducati :shock:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 01 Jun 2014, 22:22

Aerospeed wrote:Jeez, that's awfully close! The numbers don't lie either...

2. Issac Vinales, KTM, +0.010
3. Alex Rins, Honda, +0.011

Has there ever been a closer gap between any two finishers in any race ever? It couldn't be any closer if you tried! It's closer than Schumi managed at Indy, isn't it?

W12 · Post by **W12** » 01 Jun 2014, 22:34

dr-baker wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:Jeez, that's awfully close! The numbers don't lie either...

2. Issac Vinales, KTM, +0.010
3. Alex Rins, Honda, +0.011

Has there ever been a closer gap between any two finishers in any race ever? It couldn't be any closer if you tried! It's closer than Schumi managed at Indy, isn't it?

In a 2007 Indy Lights race, the gap between the first and second was 0.0005 seconds

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 02 Jun 2014, 03:24

dr-baker wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:Jeez, that's awfully close! The numbers don't lie either...

2. Issac Vinales, KTM, +0.010
3. Alex Rins, Honda, +0.011

Has there ever been a closer gap between any two finishers in any race ever? It couldn't be any closer if you tried! It's closer than Schumi managed at Indy, isn't it?

In MotoGP,
1. Toni ELIAS Fortuna Honda 46'08.739
2. Valentino ROSSI Camel Yamaha Team +0.002

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 02 Jun 2014, 05:35

Jocke1 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Aerospeed wrote:Jeez, that's awfully close! The numbers don't lie either...

2. Issac Vinales, KTM, +0.010
3. Alex Rins, Honda, +0.011

Has there ever been a closer gap between any two finishers in any race ever? It couldn't be any closer if you tried! It's closer than Schumi managed at Indy, isn't it?

In MotoGP,
1. Toni ELIAS Fortuna Honda 46'08.739
2. Valentino ROSSI Camel Yamaha Team +0.002

I will never forget that race because it was the first time I saw a photo finish.

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 02 Jun 2014, 11:18

I think you know this one?

Can't really find the official gap. They say it's something in a millionth second

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 02 Jun 2014, 19:54

I can remember lowest class having dead heat for the win twice. One was in Qatar with Lorenzo and Dovizioso and one might have been in Germany year or two ago.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 03 Jun 2014, 10:30

Bleu wrote:I can remember lowest class having dead heat for the win twice. One was in Qatar with Lorenzo and Dovizioso and one might have been in Germany year or two ago.

I had a look;
It was Jorge LORENZO 41'29.946
Andrea DOVIZIOSO +0.077

Are you thinking about Mugello last year?
Luis SALOM 39'53.827
Alex RINS +0.099

Or Silverstone
Luis SALOM 38'17.291
Alex RINS +0.049

Or Misano
Alex RINS 39'50.516
Maverick VINALES +0.050

Or Sepang
Luis SALOM 40'42.441
Alex RINS +0.069

too many to choose from

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 03 Jun 2014, 18:58

Found out that the other race was Germany 2011. Qatar was in 2004.

http://resources.motogp.com/files/resul ... 1_f873a253
http://resources.motogp.com/files/resul ... 1_9c890819

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 03 Jun 2014, 19:15

AxelP800 wrote:I think you know this one?

Can't really find the official gap. They say it's something in a millionth second

They say it was something like .000006

It ended up being about 6/10s of an inch. Best part, it was on a holeshot.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 15 Jun 2014, 19:34

Brilliant MotoGP race today, super-exciting all the way through.

http://youtu.be/n5XbQ83YyPk

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 18 Jun 2014, 09:50

Surprising news, or they-kind-of-have-to-say-that non-news?

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Suppo+Hondas+priority+is+to+keep+Pedrosa

I think everyone expects Dani to be replaced, but then again, what better options do they have? Dovi perhaps, though he's already had his chance and didn't do too well against Dani back then. Can't see Bradl as a factory rider.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 18 Jun 2014, 10:29

Whoever they get will get kicked in the ass most likely by Marquez. So that other ride is a danger drive at the moment.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 28 Jun 2014, 08:20

Crazy first few minutes in MGP qualifying yesterday. Great moment was when Marquez overtook 5 riders in 1½ corners :lol:

Here is a burnout from Thursday made by some German in the camping-site next to the Assen circuit.
http://youtu.be/OoEvd1LHhmc poor bike

AxelP800 · Post by **AxelP800** » 28 Jun 2014, 11:47

Great job by Anthony West! Love it! Congratulations man

11 years after, he done it again, finally

Dat swim by Marques :lol:

Nice man

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 28 Jun 2014, 13:24

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 28 Jun 2014, 20:21

Marquez wins again! Nice to see Espargaro win pole though.

watka · Post by **watka** » 29 Jun 2014, 00:19

AxelP800 wrote:Great job by Anthony West! Love it! Congratulations man 11 years after, he done it again, finally

Dat swim by Marques Nice man

Impossible to hate Ant West, much like Mark Webber.

Marc Marquez is getting ridiculous now. Makes you wonder whether Lorenzo, Stoner and Pedrosa are/were that great at all.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 29 Jun 2014, 10:29

watka wrote:
AxelP800 wrote:Great job by Anthony West! Love it! Congratulations man 11 years after, he done it again, finally

Dat swim by Marques Nice man

Impossible to hate Ant West, much like Mark Webber.

Marc Marquez is getting ridiculous now. Makes you wonder whether Lorenzo, Stoner and Pedrosa are/were that great at all.

I think Marquez is part alien TBH. If he wins every single race then pretty much every rule in the book will be against him

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 02 Jul 2014, 13:15

Rossi gets another 2 years with Yamaha : http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Yamaha+and+Valentino+Rossi+set+to+continue+with+twoyear+contract+extension

Will Honda stick with Pedrosa now, as we discussed a page or so ago? Though Lorenzo is not confirmed at Yamaha yet ...

Lorenzo stated, “For this moment we have found some differences between us, but as I always say I would like to finish my career with Yamaha. It would be the most beautiful thing, to finish my career
with Yamaha without changing team. So hopefully we can find a solution.”

When pressed to expand on where those differences might be found, Lorenzo answered, “Mainly economically to be honest.”

Is there money for Jorge at Yamaha? Could Honda ditch Dani and get Jorge instead (though he seems very loyal to Yamaha, money looks like it will do the talking), I wonder?

watka · Post by **watka** » 04 Jul 2014, 00:11

To be honest, Honda should save money a ditch Pedrosa and replace him with... no-one. The team revolves around Marquez and he has many, many, many years left in MotoGP. The constructors cup means pretty much nothing in MotoGP, its all about the rider's title, so what's the point in running a 2nd bike in a discipline where it is so hard for one team mate to protect the other?

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 04 Jul 2014, 01:51

watka wrote:To be honest, Honda should save money a ditch Pedrosa and replace him with... no-one. The team revolves around Marquez and he has many, many, many years left in MotoGP. The constructors cup means pretty much nothing in MotoGP, its all about the rider's title, so what's the point in running a 2nd bike in a discipline where it is so hard for one team mate to protect the other?

Also add the fact that only the best bike counts towards the results for the constructors cup, and the plan kinda makes sense. However, I think that there should still be a second Honda bike, mainly to get another great rider to compete in the series. Maybe he could bring some sponsor cash as well. Does the rules force both bikes to be the same livery? They could have different sponsors to advertise. Or they can circumvent this and have a satellite team with the factory's support run the sponsored bike.

watka · Post by **watka** » 04 Jul 2014, 23:52

Aerospeed wrote:
watka wrote:To be honest, Honda should save money a ditch Pedrosa and replace him with... no-one. The team revolves around Marquez and he has many, many, many years left in MotoGP. The constructors cup means pretty much nothing in MotoGP, its all about the rider's title, so what's the point in running a 2nd bike in a discipline where it is so hard for one team mate to protect the other?

Also add the fact that only the best bike counts towards the results for the constructors cup, and the plan kinda makes sense. However, I think that there should still be a second Honda bike, mainly to get another great rider to compete in the series. Maybe he could bring some sponsor cash as well. Does the rules force both bikes to be the same livery? They could have different sponsors to advertise. Or they can circumvent this and have a satellite team with the factory's support run the sponsored bike.

Trying to push to find the next big thing so soon (if this is what you're suggesting) though would only serve to undermine Marquez and if anything cause him to lose his focus when right now the team should just be happy to sit as they are. If you're going to have a 2nd bike then may as well let Pedrosa keep the ride as he's solid but never going to be a threat to Marquez.

madmark1974 · Post by **madmark1974** » 09 Jul 2014, 12:40

And Dani gets another two years : http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2014/Honda+Racing+Corporation+sign+Pedrosa+until+end+of+2016

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 09 Jul 2014, 14:12

Is he going to ride a Honda until he retires?

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 12 Jul 2014, 20:54

Q1 today. That was the 39th time that CC has been off the bike so far this year, right?

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 13 Jul 2014, 12:06

That start just now :shock:

EDIT;
Nine in a row ffs..