2014 Belgian Grand Prix Discussion Thread

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 22 Aug 2014, 00:35

dr-baker wrote:Soooo..... Is Rossi a fan of The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy then? Because if he isn't, then ...

Glad I'm not the only one that thought that.

Ed24 · Post by **Ed24** » 22 Aug 2014, 06:29

Shizuka wrote:So... Rossi got #42 and Lotterer got #45...

Surely Rossi should have gone with 46!

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 22 Aug 2014, 07:33

Wasn't there someone on this forum who really couldn't stand Alex Rossi, for some weird personal reason?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 22 Aug 2014, 07:35

Waris wrote:Wasn't there someone on this forum who really couldn't stand Alex Rossi, for some weird personal reason?

That'd be biscione. That is why everyone who wants to make "The Rossi Rave" a thing is getting glassed.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 22 Aug 2014, 07:58

Klon wrote:
Waris wrote:Wasn't there someone on this forum who really couldn't stand Alex Rossi, for some weird personal reason?

That'd be biscione. That is why everyone who wants to make "The Rossi Rave" a thing is getting glassed.

Seems like he hasn't posted about it yet. I guess he must be in a corner sulking. I still wonder what that reason was, by the way, did Rossi steal his high school girlfriend or something?

Anyway, this just occurred to me: what if Caterham were actually going to replace Ericsson with Lotterer, but he was going to take the number 49, and to avoid disaster they quickly decided to replace Kobayashi with him instead, making him change his mind about the race number in the process?

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 22 Aug 2014, 08:11

Hahaha, apparently Chilton's resolved his issues so he's back in.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 22 Aug 2014, 08:23

GwilymJJames wrote:Hahaha, apparently Chilton's resolved his issues so he's back in.

Autosport says otherwise, unless its been withdrawn since...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115467

sw3ishida · Post by **sw3ishida** » 22 Aug 2014, 08:27

Sky Sports are reporting that Chilton's issues have been sorted and that he will drive from FP2 onwards

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 22 Aug 2014, 08:27

Collieafc wrote:
GwilymJJames wrote:Hahaha, apparently Chilton's resolved his issues so he's back in.

Autosport says otherwise, unless its been withdrawn since...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115467

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/08/22/c ... rand-prix/

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 22 Aug 2014, 08:35

Go home Marussia, you're drunk :lol:

Post by **Londoner** » 22 Aug 2014, 08:51

Chilton's racing after all? In the words of Daniel Bryan, YES YES YES YES YES.

Casuals look like they're already giving Lotterer stick. Poor deluded souls they are.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 22 Aug 2014, 08:59

I just heard Graeme Lowden trying to explain what was going on with the Marussia merry-go-round and why.

Never mind Red Bull levels of publicocrap and squirming away from the question, he should be an MP after that!

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Aug 2014, 09:06

So now that Rossi has not actually debuted properly with the number 42, does this mean that someone like Max Verstappen could come along and 'nick' that number, or is it now actually allocated?

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 22 Aug 2014, 09:41

dr-baker wrote:So now that Rossi has not actually debuted properly with the number 42, does this mean that someone like Max Verstappen could come along and 'nick' that number, or is it now actually allocated?

I also wondered: what happens if a driver takes a sabbatical and a rookie steps in and takes his number? Does the old guy have to pick a new one then? Pretty confusing stuff that is.

Post by **Ataxia** » 22 Aug 2014, 09:48

I don't think Rossi and Lotterer picked those numbers; the teams have to pick two spare numbers and on a temporary basis like this replacement drivers might use those numbers. Caterham have 45 and 46 as their spare numbers, and my guess is Marussia probably have 42 and 43.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 22 Aug 2014, 10:11

Ataxia wrote:I don't think Rossi and Lotterer picked those numbers; the teams have to pick two spare numbers and on a temporary basis like this replacement drivers might use those numbers. Caterham have 45 and 46 as their spare numbers, and my guess is Marussia probably have 42 and 43.

So say Caterham decide that they're fed up with Marcus Ericsson as well and drop him for Robin Frijns at Monza, who would presumably have #46 as he has for his FP1 sessions - and also put a different driver in André Lotterer's car in FP1 (say, they go running cap in hand back to Heikki Kovalainen for some reason) - what would they do then?

Other than "bring back Kamui"...

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 22 Aug 2014, 10:14

dinizintheoven wrote:
Ataxia wrote:I don't think Rossi and Lotterer picked those numbers; the teams have to pick two spare numbers and on a temporary basis like this replacement drivers might use those numbers. Caterham have 45 and 46 as their spare numbers, and my guess is Marussia probably have 42 and 43.

So say Caterham decide that they're fed up with Marcus Ericsson as well and drop him for Robin Frijns at Monza, who would presumably have #46 as he has for his FP1 sessions - and also put a different driver in André Lotterer's car in FP1 (say, they go running cap in hand back to Heikki Kovalainen for some reason) - what would they do then?

Other than "bring back Kamui"...

Isn't there a rule that you may only change your drivers twice per season, therefore use maximum 4 drivers per team? I think the FIA introduced that rule after the Andrea Moda disaster. I imagine there might be special circumstances though, such as race bans and injuries.

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 22 Aug 2014, 10:23

mediocre wrote:sn't there a rule that you may only change your drivers twice per season, therefore use maximum 4 drivers per team? I think the FIA introduced that rule after the Andrea Moda disaster. I imagine there might be special circumstances though, such as race bans and injuries.

I thought the maximum number was 5, because Prost used that number in 2001. Alesi, Mazzacane, Burti, Frentzen and Enge.

Post by **Ataxia** » 22 Aug 2014, 10:25

good_Ralf wrote:
mediocre wrote:sn't there a rule that you may only change your drivers twice per season, therefore use maximum 4 drivers per team? I think the FIA introduced that rule after the Andrea Moda disaster. I imagine there might be special circumstances though, such as race bans and injuries.

I thought the maximum number was 5, because Prost used that number in 2001. Alesi, Mazzacane, Burti, Frentzen and Enge.

That was a special circumstance though, because there was no way Burti could finish the season.

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 22 Aug 2014, 11:36

good_Ralf wrote:
mediocre wrote:sn't there a rule that you may only change your drivers twice per season, therefore use maximum 4 drivers per team? I think the FIA introduced that rule after the Andrea Moda disaster. I imagine there might be special circumstances though, such as race bans and injuries.

I thought the maximum number was 5, because Prost used that number in 2001. Alesi, Mazzacane, Burti, Frentzen and Enge.

Highest I can think of, post Andrea Moda, that didnt involve injuries was Larrousse in 1994 with 6, (Beretta, Alliot, Noda, Deletraz, Comas, Dalmas) before they folded. I was going to say Pacific 1995 but I think they were 4? (Gacheot, Montermini, Deletraz, Lavaggi - they did plan more drivers though)

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 22 Aug 2014, 11:54

Damn, Rossi out runs both Catherams, then gets pulled. Oh Well. Marussia does seem quite drunk. I wonder how many times their drivers will switch before Monza?

mediocre · Post by **mediocre** » 22 Aug 2014, 11:57

Collieafc wrote:
good_Ralf wrote:
mediocre wrote:sn't there a rule that you may only change your drivers twice per season, therefore use maximum 4 drivers per team? I think the FIA introduced that rule after the Andrea Moda disaster. I imagine there might be special circumstances though, such as race bans and injuries.

I thought the maximum number was 5, because Prost used that number in 2001. Alesi, Mazzacane, Burti, Frentzen and Enge.

Highest I can think of, post Andrea Moda, that didnt involve injuries was Larrousse in 1994 with 6, (Beretta, Alliot, Noda, Deletraz, Comas, Dalmas) before they folded. I was going to say Pacific 1995 but I think they were 4? (Gacheot, Montermini, Deletraz, Lavaggi - they did plan more drivers though)

Formula1.com says:

Teams may use up to four drivers during a season, all of whom may score points in the championship. A driver change may be made with the permission of the stewards any time before the start of qualifying.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 22 Aug 2014, 12:36

If Mr Talent is back after all then please can Caterham do the same for Kobayashi?

GwilymJJames · Post by **GwilymJJames** » 22 Aug 2014, 18:09

I see young Pastor Maldonado has had a small incident. He really must be more careful.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 22 Aug 2014, 19:18

GwilymJJames wrote:I see young Pastor Maldonado has had a small incident. He really must be more careful.

When talking about "small accidents" this by de Cesaris come to my mind. Commentated by Ayrton Senna.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20OWtuo-m0M

noiceinmydrink · Post by **noiceinmydrink** » 22 Aug 2014, 20:36

Bleu wrote:
GwilymJJames wrote:I see young Pastor Maldonado has had a small incident. He really must be more careful.

When talking about "small accidents" this by de Cesaris come to my mind. Commentated by Ayrton Senna.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20OWtuo-m0M

I remember seeing this, pissed myself laughing to no end.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 22 Aug 2014, 21:23

Mexicola wrote:
Bleu wrote:
GwilymJJames wrote:I see young Pastor Maldonado has had a small incident. He really must be more careful.

When talking about "small accidents" this by de Cesaris come to my mind. Commentated by Ayrton Senna.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20OWtuo-m0M

I remember seeing this, pissed myself laughing to no end.

For de Crasheris, that probably WAS a small accident?

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 23 Aug 2014, 04:17

My reaction on Rossi's news in the past 24 hours.

Shadaza · Post by **Shadaza** » 23 Aug 2014, 11:24

Current weather conditions: Hail and rain storm. 30 minutes until qualifying...

mrfakeboullier · Post by **mrfakeboullier** » 23 Aug 2014, 11:28

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Rossi broken Kuwashuma's record for the shortest Grand Prix debut?

Post by **tommykl** » 23 Aug 2014, 11:50

mrfakeboullier wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Rossi broken Kuwashuma's record for the shortest Grand Prix debut?

Matched it, actually

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 23 Aug 2014, 12:00

mrfakeboullier wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Rossi broken Kuwashuma's record for the shortest Grand Prix debut?

I thought the record was held by Jorge de Bagration.

EDIT: Lotterer for DNQ

apple2009 · Post by **apple2009** » 23 Aug 2014, 12:17

Lotterer well off the pace but it can't be easy to debut at a circuit like Spa-Francorchamps. No room for error at this track. In the rain, no less.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 23 Aug 2014, 12:18

roblomas52 wrote:
mrfakeboullier wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't Rossi broken Kuwashuma's record for the shortest Grand Prix debut?

I thought the record was held by Jorge de Bagration.

EDIT: Lotterer for DNQ

Right, that's gone out of the window :lol:

apple2009 · Post by **apple2009** » 23 Aug 2014, 12:21

Lotterer outqualifies Ericsson. :shock:

Jules P14 - He advances! Go go Jules!

Good stuff.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 23 Aug 2014, 12:21

So I lost the bet. :lol:

apple2009 · Post by **apple2009** » 23 Aug 2014, 12:26

I'm going to make a little prediction. Andre Lotterer wins the 2017 Bahrain GP, driving for Red Bull Racing.

Enforcer · Post by **Enforcer** » 23 Aug 2014, 12:29

Delighted for Lotterer. He found 6 seconds on his last run, that's not easy even if you are slow in the first place.

Was all warmed up to hammer Caterham for bringing in a driver with practically no F1 experience in the last decade, in a difficult car, in Belgium, which is a difficult track where it's liable to rain. Was genuinely thinking that the poor guy, through no fault of his own, wouldn't be able to attune to it quickly enough and would record a Deletrazian performance. But no, he's done well.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 23 Aug 2014, 13:31

Proud of Ericsson today, a solid qualifying effort and only 0.969s behind Lotterer.
His future looks very bright at this point in time.

Valrys · Post by **Valrys** » 23 Aug 2014, 13:56

Jocke1 wrote:Proud of Ericsson today, a solid qualifying effort and only 0.969s behind Lotterer.
His future looks very bright at this point in time.

Severe quantities of mirth :lol: