Italian GP Discussion thread

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 02 Sep 2014, 22:30

Yes, it is nearly time for Monza. The Parabolica now has Tarmac run off area but the big news is that surrounding Ron Dennis.
http://wtf1.co.uk/ron-dennis-ice-bucket-challenge/
Yes, he has done it. May contain Ronspeak.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 03 Sep 2014, 08:00

Discussion.

/grammarnazi

It did contain a 3/10 on the Ronspeak scale

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 03 Sep 2014, 08:16

Shizuka wrote:Discussion.

/grammarnazi

It did contain a 3/10 on the Ronspeak scale

Thanks for pointing that out mate. :oops:

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 03 Sep 2014, 08:26

Haha! Ron I love you.. :lol:

But why oh why could you not have nominated Mika instead?

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 Sep 2014, 08:51

Look at those ice-cubes, each one is identical. Probably only a certain exacting specification is permitted wth cubes not fitting the requirements removed and disposed of before they get anywhere near Ron.

I hope this isnt the last Italian grand prix.

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 03 Sep 2014, 11:40

Nooo....

@tgruener on Twitter wrote:#F1 Heard that Lotterer is likely to drive for Caterham at Monza. Merhi might run in first practice. Kobayashi is out. Not confirmed yet.

Kobayashi out...

Kobayashi out...

Post by **Londoner** » 03 Sep 2014, 11:43

Lotterer's racing again this weekend?

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 03 Sep 2014, 11:45

And Merhi could well be in the car for Singapore:

@tgruener on Twitter wrote:Heard that FIA won't allow Merhi to do the race but there is a chance he could run FP1 to prove he's ready. Maybe race at Singapore then.

That will be interesting! :lol:

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 03 Sep 2014, 12:19

AndreaModa wrote:Nooo....

@tgruener on Twitter wrote:#F1 Heard that Lotterer is likely to drive for Caterham at Monza. Merhi might run in first practice. Kobayashi is out. Not confirmed yet.

Kobayashi out...

Kobayashi out...

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :evil:

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 Sep 2014, 12:31

Despite being a fan, I can live with Kobayashi being let go in favour of Lotterer. The Lotterer thing interests me, despite his F1 newbie-status, he's had massive success in other motorsports so I don't consider him a proper Reject but even so I want him to do well. I know that may be at odds with the ethos of the forum but the heart wants what the heart wants.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 03 Sep 2014, 14:46

I previously wrote here a post defending Colin Kolles.

I take it all back. He sold out to Red Bull and stuck Mehri in FP1. Sensibly, Lotterer declined the Monza drive for that reason. He is a rookie, and he needs as much FP time as he can get.

Even when it looked like Kolles was finally making a talent-based decision, he managed to sell out again.

GO HOME KOLLES, JUST GO HOME!

Post by **Ataxia** » 03 Sep 2014, 15:02

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 03 Sep 2014, 15:21

Speaking of Ron Dennis, I saved a quote by him from an interview earlier this year (March 6th);

I'm not easy to be around, but at the end of the day, if you travel through life with me,
it's normally a lot more fun than people think.

I realise the majority dislikes Ron but I have always thought of him as a good guy.
Granted, me being a great Hakkinen-fan through the years might have been a contributing factor in me also accepting Ron.
He's a cool dude.
I posted a link back in May to a great ~50 minute interview with RD. Here it is again;
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3559&p=301137#p301137

Wallio · Post by **Wallio** » 03 Sep 2014, 17:05

CoopsII wrote:Look at those ice-cubes, each one is identical. Probably only a certain exacting specification is permitted wth cubes not fitting the requirements removed and disposed of before they get anywhere near Ron.

I hope this isnt the last Italian grand prix.

You're being silly here, but there's truth in that. McLaren's catering uses sticks of butter imprinted with the team logo......

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 03 Sep 2014, 17:38

Ataxia wrote:

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 03 Sep 2014, 18:22

Ataxia wrote:

What? After Biscione and I both made impassioned posts about him?

What a bitch.

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 03 Sep 2014, 18:53

Forza Kamui!

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115681

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 Sep 2014, 19:08

Yannick wrote:Forza Kamui!

How utterly disappointing and regrettable. Well, can't be long until Merhi has his superlicense, then Kobayashi is finally gone for good.

LellaLombardi · Post by **LellaLombardi** » 03 Sep 2014, 19:11

Jocke1 wrote:Speaking of Ron Dennis, I saved a quote by him from an interview earlier this year (March 6th);

I'm not easy to be around, but at the end of the day, if you travel through life with me,
it's normally a lot more fun than people think.

I realise the majority dislikes Ron but I have always thought of him as a good guy.
Granted, me being a great Hakkinen-fan through the years might have been a contributing factor in me also accepting Ron.
He's a cool dude.
I posted a link back in May to a great ~50 minute interview with RD. Here it is again;
http://f1rejects.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 37#p301137

I've always though of him as tough and no-nonsense, but genuine and I like that in people.

Jocke1 · Post by **Jocke1** » 03 Sep 2014, 20:31

LellaLombardi wrote:I've always though of him as tough and no-nonsense, but genuine and I like that in people.

Precisely, thanks for expressing what I couldn't.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 03 Sep 2014, 22:37

CoopsII wrote:Despite being a fan, I can live with Kobayashi being let go in favour of Lotterer. The Lotterer thing interests me, despite his F1 newbie-status, he's had massive success in other motorsports so I don't consider him a proper Reject but even so I want him to do well. I know that may be at odds with the ethos of the forum but the heart wants what the heart wants.

I agree. As much as I am a fan of Kobayashi, it's always interesting to see a new F1 driver enter the sport.

go_Rubens · Post by **go_Rubens** » 03 Sep 2014, 22:48

Then why don't Caterham put Merhi in Ericsson's car for FP1? As far as I'm concerned, I can only think of contract/sponsorship clauses preventing that. That way, Lotterer could race again. Or have Merhi and Lotterer share the car in FP1 if possible?!

Post by **Ataxia** » 03 Sep 2014, 23:37

go_Rubens wrote:Then why don't Caterham put Merhi in Ericsson's car for FP1? As far as I'm concerned, I can only think of contract/sponsorship clauses preventing that.

Well, you've answered your own question there.

It would also be counter-productive to switch drivers mid-FP1; by the time it would take to change the seats and pedal positions, the number decals and the setups, the session would be over.

Shame Andre's not racing this weekend, but c'est la vie.

Post by **Miguel98** » 04 Sep 2014, 09:51

The new, safety improved Parabolica: https://twitter.com/RyanF1C/status/507465082255982592

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 04 Sep 2014, 09:55

Just one word as a response to the Parabolica run-off:

BATHPLUG! :evil:

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 04 Sep 2014, 10:33

Shizuka wrote:Just one word as a response to the Parabolica run-off:

BATHPLUG!

Well said.

And let me guess, the FIA will hand 5-seconds penalties to those who cannot keep it in the proper track just to try and keep the spirit of the original corner alive? Yeah, right...

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 04 Sep 2014, 10:36

DanielPT wrote:
Shizuka wrote:Just one word as a response to the Parabolica run-off:

BATHPLUG!

Well said.

And let me guess, the FIA will hand 5-seconds penalties to those who cannot keep it in the proper track just to try and keep the spirit of the original corner alive? Yeah, right...

Then again, Senna might still have won the race in '87 with a run-off area in place...

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 04 Sep 2014, 10:44

good_Ralf wrote:Then again, Senna might still have won the race in '87 with a run-off area in place...

Senna felt the punishment for failing to keep it on the track. That is why that for me, Monaco should never leave the calendar. It will be hard for FIA to place run-off areas on them.

Tracks that properly punish drivers in F1 are a dying breed, I am afraid.

IceG · Post by **IceG** » 04 Sep 2014, 11:29

I have to say that Monaco does tend to punish drivers who run off track...

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 04 Sep 2014, 13:44

http://www.accuweather.com/en/it/monza/ ... her/214047

I'm so not trusting this.

lgaquino · Post by **lgaquino** » 04 Sep 2014, 17:07

But wasn't the change only on the entry of Parabolica? I may be wrong, but often the cars run wide and out on their way out of this corner.
So it's bad, but...could be a lot worse..

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 04 Sep 2014, 17:31

That's right, it's only 1.5m wide on the exit, so it's really not as bad as people make out.

Post by **mario** » 04 Sep 2014, 18:41

Klon wrote:
Yannick wrote:Forza Kamui!

How utterly disappointing and regrettable. Well, can't be long until Merhi has his superlicense, then Kobayashi is finally gone for good.

You sense that the news this weekend is really more of a stay of execution for Kamui than a long term reprieve - Kamui's seat is likely to be sold from beneath him now that the team has exhausted what funds he brought to the team, and you presume that Merhi will end up at Caterham sooner rather than later.

[Edit] Speaking of Merhi, he has said that it looks as if his superlicence may be conditional on his performance in FP1. Interestingly, he has hinted that, even if he did get his superlicence fairly soon after Monza, he might not automatically replace Kamui immediately, mainly because of the difficulties in getting used to the next circuit coming up (Singapore). I wonder if perhaps Caterham might hold onto Kamui until after the Japanese GP - perhaps in the hope that they can exploit Kamui's home race for one last dollop of cash - with Merhi being given free practise sessions in the meantime.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115688

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 05 Sep 2014, 09:20

I noticed in FP1 that Merhi had a green light flashing on the rear of the car - what was that about? It seemed to be all around the track...

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 05 Sep 2014, 09:22

Salamander wrote:I noticed in FP1 that Merhi had a green light flashing on the rear of the car - what was that about? It seemed to be all around the track...

Drivers without a superlicense have a green light instead of a red one.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 05 Sep 2014, 09:43

pi314159 wrote:
Salamander wrote:I noticed in FP1 that Merhi had a green light flashing on the rear of the car - what was that about? It seemed to be all around the track...

Drivers without a superlicense have a green light instead of a red one.

Ah. Fair enough.

CoopsII · Post by **CoopsII** » 05 Sep 2014, 10:04

pi314159 wrote:
Salamander wrote:I noticed in FP1 that Merhi had a green light flashing on the rear of the car - what was that about? It seemed to be all around the track...

Drivers without a superlicense have a green light instead of a red one.

Is that true? It's sometimes hard to tell on here :lol:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 05 Sep 2014, 10:20

pi314159 wrote:
Salamander wrote:I noticed in FP1 that Merhi had a green light flashing on the rear of the car - what was that about? It seemed to be all around the track...

Drivers without a superlicense have a green light instead of a red one.

You learn something new every day....

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 05 Sep 2014, 10:28

On another note and in a shameful display of favoritism following the lines of what had been Lotterer debut, Caterham makes Merhi look good compared to Ericsson...

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 05 Sep 2014, 10:42

So Mehri was about on the same pace as Lotterer was, that is very bad for Ericsson