2010 Driver Market

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 23 Jan 2010, 18:44

Looks like it. At least its a jest, if it is...

Popi_Larrauri · Post by **Popi_Larrauri** » 23 Jan 2010, 19:05

Collieafc wrote:Looks like it. At least its a jest, if it is...

.....? Spam?

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 23 Jan 2010, 20:33

lol! thats funneh!

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 23 Jan 2010, 21:24

Phoenix wrote:I didn't expect Heidfeld resorting to a test drive, but, as has been pointed out, it could turn out to be advantageous. Plus, if not, it's a role that fits in to him perfectly.

I think Heidfeld should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect person to drive the Safety Car.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Jan 2010, 22:18

I wonder who could be All Spanish Press...thehemogoblin? Captain Hammer? En fin...

redbulljack14 wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I didn't expect Heidfeld resorting to a test drive, but, as has been pointed out, it could turn out to be advantageous. Plus, if not, it's a role that fits in to him perfectly.

I think Heidfeld should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect person to drive the Safety Car.

Bernd Maylander does it just fine. Seriously, Heidfeld may not be spectacular, but he deserved a race seat. Mainly at Sauber.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 23 Jan 2010, 22:21

redbulljack14 wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I didn't expect Heidfeld resorting to a test drive, but, as has been pointed out, it could turn out to be advantageous. Plus, if not, it's a role that fits in to him perfectly.

I think Heidfeld should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect person to drive the Safety Car.

I think TRULLI should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect guy to drive the safety car.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Jan 2010, 22:45

dr-baker wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I didn't expect Heidfeld resorting to a test drive, but, as has been pointed out, it could turn out to be advantageous. Plus, if not, it's a role that fits in to him perfectly.

I think Heidfeld should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect person to drive the Safety Car.

I think TRULLI should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect guy to drive the safety car.

watka · Post by **watka** » 23 Jan 2010, 23:40

dr-baker wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I didn't expect Heidfeld resorting to a test drive, but, as has been pointed out, it could turn out to be advantageous. Plus, if not, it's a role that fits in to him perfectly.

I think Heidfeld should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect person to drive the Safety Car.

I think TRULLI should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect guy to drive into the safety car.

Fixed.

watka · Post by **watka** » 23 Jan 2010, 23:40

Actually, that was the medical car. Doh. :oops:

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 23 Jan 2010, 23:46

Phoenix wrote:I wonder who could be All Spanish Press...thehemogoblin? Captain Hammer? En fin...

redbulljack14 wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I didn't expect Heidfeld resorting to a test drive, but, as has been pointed out, it could turn out to be advantageous. Plus, if not, it's a role that fits in to him perfectly.

I think Heidfeld should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect person to drive the Safety Car.

Bernd Maylander does it just fine. Seriously, Heidfeld may not be spectacular, but he deserved a race seat. Mainly at Sauber.

I know he does, but Quick Nick hasn't crashed out when it was his fault since god knows.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 23 Jan 2010, 23:47

dr-baker wrote:I think TRULLI should be linked to Mercedes, simply because he's the perfect guy to drive the safety car.

Nah, Trulli's gonna move to Virgin and be the face of Virgin Trains.

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 24 Jan 2010, 03:12

My final predictions ... although there's only thee seats to be filled, really ...

Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
#1 - Jenson BUTTON
#2 - Lewis HAMILTON
#31 - Gary PAFFETT

Mercedes Grand Prix PETRONAS
#3 - Michael SCHUMACHER
#4 - Nico ROSBERG
#32 - Nick HEIDFELD

Red Bull Racing - Renault
#5 - Sebastian VETTEL
#6 - Mark WEBBER
#33 - Daniel RICCIARDO

Scuderia Ferrari Malboro
#7 - Felipe MASSA
#8 - Fernando ALONSO
#34 - Giancarlo FISICHELLA

AT&T WilliamsF1 - Cosworth
#9 - Rubens BARRICHELLO
#10 - Nico HULKENBERG
#35 - Kazuki NAKAJIMA

Sberbank Renault F1 Team
#11 - Robert KUBICA
#12 - Vitaly PETROV
#36 - Ho-Pin TUNG

Force India F1 - Mercedes
#14 - Adrian SUTIL
#15 - Vitantonio LIUZZI
#37 - Karun CHANDHOK

Scuderia Toro Rosso - Ferrari
#16 - Sebastien BUEMI
#17 - Jaime ALGUERSUARI
#38 - Brendon HARTLEY

AirAsia Lotus F1 Racing - Cosworth
#18 - Jarno TRULLI
#19 - Heikki KOVALAINEN
#39 - Fairuz FAUZY

Embratel Campos Meta1 - Cosworth
#20 - Andy SOUCEK
#21 - Bruno SENNA
#40 - Pastor MALDONADO

VISA Team USF1 - Cosworth
#22 - Jose Maria LOPEZ
#23 - James ROSSITER
#41 - Jonathan SUMMERTON

Virgin Racing - Marussia
#24 - Timo GLOCK
#25 - Lucas DI GRASSI
#42 - Alvaro PARENTE

Nespresso Sauber F1 Team
#26 - Pedro DE LA ROSA
#27 - Kamui KOBAYASHI
#43 - Christian KLEIN

FloProAct · Post by **FloProAct** » 24 Jan 2010, 10:32

fjackdaw wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
Wasn't he the guy who impounded his former team or something? I seem to remember that story.

Of course, if he was correct and the team really DID take payment from him after they'd already dropped him, then he was well within his moral rights to take legal action. I don't know the outcome to that little adventure.

The problem is Coloni had nothing to do with it. It was the team under previous management (fisichella motorsport) that he had the difficulties with.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 24 Jan 2010, 11:06

FloProAct wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
Wasn't he the guy who impounded his former team or something? I seem to remember that story.

Of course, if he was correct and the team really DID take payment from him after they'd already dropped him, then he was well within his moral rights to take legal action. I don't know the outcome to that little adventure.

The problem is Coloni had nothing to do with it. It was the team under previous management (fisichella motorsport) that he had the difficulties with.

The only person with moral authority to impound Coloni is Pedro Chaves. :lol:

Whole Spanish Press · Post by **Whole Spanish Press** » 25 Jan 2010, 16:27

coops wrote:
Whole Spanish Press wrote: Yeah! We have so much power that we can field 26 spanish drivers, even if we field Joaquín Sabina in a RedBull, Rafael Nadal at a Williams and Butragueno at McLaren

Oooh we could have two Alonsos (Xabi!)

Alguersuari might find it hard to get a drive up against that lot though!

We have received your e-mails, snail mails and suggestions about Xaby Alonso and Alejandro Sanz instead of Sabina with great delight, and even took the time to analize it. We, as a whole or as separated entities, must, however, decline your idea since it's contradictory with our ultimate goals, that is: fill the whole F1 grid with spanish drivers and teams via unfounded predictions, increasing our power by pressing everybody until we can transcend into pure energy and thus rule as demi-gods a new empire of total evilness, if only to destroy some forum contributors predictions.

After having several meeting we have decided to stick to our original plan and, therefore, we feel that we must release the following statements:

1) Don't push it, kiddie: It's no less than 2010, world cup year and the very first time since 1930's that we have a serious chance to pass 3rd round. We need him badly in our national football team.

2) Instead, Sabina had already passed trough every section of every newspaper here, cpectacles with his career, policials with his drug issues, society because of his groupies, except for the sport section.

3) Besides, regarding Sabina, with have a bet with the German and Brazilian press concerning this http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=39714 and this http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2009/se ... r-williams (his eyes says it everything) and we have the strong urge to show them that we also care about recycling our own junk.

4) We have already been thinking about Alejandro Sanz, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKSdsZOZ4tw (bear it until the end if you can), but there were fundamental issues associated to it and, after strong legal advising, we have now clear that:

4.1) Smashing an F1 car with Alejandro Sanz in it at 360 km/h, even a 2007 Honda, still cost us the paint on it.

4.2) Breaking the steering at the desired point can be a complex matter and

4.3) Our lawyers says the whole idea is somewhat illegal.

Sincerily yours, The Whole Spanish Press

Popi_Larrauri · Post by **Popi_Larrauri** » 25 Jan 2010, 16:34

Whole Spanish Press wrote:
coops wrote:
Whole Spanish Press wrote: Yeah! We have so much power that we can field 26 spanish drivers, even if we field Joaquín Sabina in a RedBull, Rafael Nadal at a Williams and Butragueno at McLaren

Oooh we could have two Alonsos (Xabi!)

Alguersuari might find it hard to get a drive up against that lot though!

if only to destroy some forum contributors predictions.

Sincerily yours, The Whole Spanish Press

This.... this is OUTRAGEOUS!!!!

I Wish we had the propper people to answer these guys!

We need... we need (my fingers tremble at the idea of typing it).

:lol:

elho · Post by **elho** » 25 Jan 2010, 19:30

the portuguese Autosport website www.autosport.pt says that Karun Chandhok, James Rossiter and TAKUMA SATO are talking with USF1, but Sato appears to have only half the money the team are asking.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 25 Jan 2010, 19:45

The Spanish Press has yet to confirm I'm signed as the 2nd USF1 driver...Oh shite, I wasn't supposed to tell that :oops:

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 25 Jan 2010, 19:55

elho wrote:the portuguese Autosport website http://www.autosport.pt says that Karun Chandhok, James Rossiter and TAKUMA SATO are talking with USF1, but Sato appears to have only half the money the team are asking.

I hope they value experience in all that

Also, http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-news/226648/fresh-ecclestone-worries-for-campos-and-us-f1/
Stefan GP gets mentioned

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 25 Jan 2010, 20:27

Whole Spanish Media reportedly closing in on the second Renault! :mrgreen:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 26 Jan 2010, 09:26

Henrique wrote:
elho wrote:the portuguese Autosport website http://www.autosport.pt says that Karun Chandhok, James Rossiter and TAKUMA SATO are talking with USF1, but Sato appears to have only half the money the team are asking.

I hope they value experience in all that

Also, http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/formula-1-news/226648/fresh-ecclestone-worries-for-campos-and-us-f1/
Stefan GP gets mentioned

I love the fact that Bernie referred to US F1 as "the American team." OK, so there is no other American team to which he could be referring but there is also only one Spanish team and he referred to Campos by name...

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 28 Jan 2010, 20:58

Just for the record, Luca di Montezemolo announced that both Badoer and Gene will remain as test drivers and Fisichella is the third driver.

elho · Post by **elho** » 29 Jan 2010, 16:02

the whole spanish press are reporting that Andy Soucek made an offer to Renault

also, Valtteri Bottas signed as Williams test driver.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 29 Jan 2010, 16:12

elho wrote:also, Valtteri Bottas signed as Williams test driver.

Uraa! All is not lost with the future of Finnish F1 drivers!

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 29 Jan 2010, 16:14

Henrique wrote:Just for the record, Luca di Montezemolo announced that both Badoer and Gene will remain as test drivers and Fisichella is the third driver.

I have to say that I am surprised that the other experienced F1 driver with recent GP experience of an 09 car has not been linked with a race seat at one of the new teams. A man who is a legend in his own lifetime and should have 5 World Championship points to his name. A man whose style has been copied by so many people across the world from Gwyneth Paltrow copying his tears while accepting an Oscar to Giancarlo Fisichella for his Ferrari driving style and excuses.

I hereby start the campaign to get Luca Badoer the second Renault seat.

Of course if Nick Heidfeld hasn't got a chance then Badoer hasn't either but I'll throw flaming papayas at anyone who makes that statement! :twisted:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 29 Jan 2010, 16:23

BigG80 wrote:
Henrique wrote:Just for the record, Luca di Montezemolo announced that both Badoer and Gene will remain as test drivers and Fisichella is the third driver.

I have to say that I am surprised that the other experienced F1 driver with recent GP experience of an 09 car has not been linked with a race seat at one of the new teams. A man who is a legend in his own lifetime and should have 5 World Championship points to his name. A man whose style has been copied by so many people across the world from Gwyneth Paltrow copying his tears while accepting an Oscar to Giancarlo Fisichella for his Ferrari driving style and excuses.

I hereby start the campaign to get Luca Badoer the second Renault seat.

Of course if Nick Heidfeld hasn't got a chance then Badoer hasn't either but I'll throw flaming papayas at anyone who makes that statement!

I think Badoer could do better.

Stefan Grand Prix
26. Luca Badoer
27. Kazuki Nakajima

:twisted:

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 31 Jan 2010, 19:58

With the 2nd Renault seat now having gone to Vitaly Petrov, who will get #1 status at USF1? Will it be Jacques Villeneuve? Will it be USF1 idol? Who is USF1 idol anyway? Is it Alexander Rossi? Is it Jonathan Summerton? Or would they take someone from straight out of IRL such as Ed Carpenter, who is without a ride as of this time?

Somehow, like Campos, they are probably looking for yet another pay driver ...

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 31 Jan 2010, 20:01

Yannick wrote:With the 2nd Renault seat now having gone to Vitaly Petrov, who will get #1 status at USF1? Will it be Jacques Villeneuve? Will it be USF1 idol? Who is USF1 idol anyway? Is it Alexander Rossi? Is it Jonathan Summerton? Or would they take someone from straight out of IRL such as Ed Carpenter, who is without a ride as of this time?

Somehow, like Campos, they are probably looking for yet another pay driver ...

Plamen Kralev has money...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 31 Jan 2010, 20:25

Yannick wrote:Is it Alexander Rossi?

It definitely won't be him. Lets just say if I ever come across him he'll be forever blighted by a 'tennis injury'...

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 01 Feb 2010, 17:44

Fisichella joined the Le Mans Series today as a full-time driver.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 01 Feb 2010, 18:49

kostas22 wrote:
Yannick wrote:Is it Alexander Rossi?

It definitely won't be him. Lets just say if I ever come across him he'll be forever blighted by a 'tennis injury'...

What was the bet, and how much did you lose on it?

elho · Post by **elho** » 03 Feb 2010, 15:56

Whole Spanish Press are now stating that Adrian Valles signed for the second USF1 seat

eytl · Post by **eytl** » 04 Feb 2010, 11:53

Heidfeld confirmed as Mercedes test and reserve driver. Is his career going the way of, say, Takuma Sato's - into hibernation and possible extinction?

Whilst I'm no big fan of Nick, I believe he is much more worthy of a place on the grid than quite a few of the drivers who will be there.

An injustice has been done, in my view, especially when you consider that he seemed certain for the second Mercedes seat before Ross Brawn and Michael Schumacher decided to renew their love-in. Then Sauber took the unfathomable decision to go for de la Rosa, who is even more of a "yesterday's man" than Nick, when they could have stuck with Heidfeld. Then presumably he could have gone to Renault, but one suspects that Eric Boullier & co may have been reluctant to pair Kubica and Heidfeld together again, and had to honour the fact they signed Robert first - even though in my books Heidfeld was much the better performer out of those two in 2009. Nick would be a good fit for USF1 as well, but for the fact he brings no sponsorship.

Disappointing.

Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 04 Feb 2010, 14:20

eytl wrote:Heidfeld confirmed as Mercedes test and reserve driver. Is his career going the way of, say, Takuma Sato's - into hibernation and possible extinction?

Whilst I'm no big fan of Nick, I believe he is much more worthy of a place on the grid than quite a few of the drivers who will be there.

An injustice has been done, in my view, especially when you consider that he seemed certain for the second Mercedes seat before Ross Brawn and Michael Schumacher decided to renew their love-in. Then Sauber took the unfathomable decision to go for de la Rosa, who is even more of a "yesterday's man" than Nick, when they could have stuck with Heidfeld. Then presumably he could have gone to Renault, but one suspects that Eric Boullier & co may have been reluctant to pair Kubica and Heidfeld together again, and had to honour the fact they signed Robert first - even though in my books Heidfeld was much the better performer out of those two in 2009. Nick would be a good fit for USF1 as well, but for the fact he brings no sponsorship.

Disappointing.

Yes it is a real shame that Heidfeld has not got a drive, he deserved a spot on the grid much more than many who have actually made it. However, apart from signing for Stefan GP and hoping they make the grid I think Heidfeld has chosen his drive as the most likely to get him a race seat. Despite Schumacher's times in testing and the 3 year contract I don't see him driving by 2012.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 04 Feb 2010, 14:38

Heidfeld would have fit awesomely in Lotus or Virgin-new teams that look promising and would need a safe yet respectably fast pair of hands with nine years worth of experience. They should have put Heidfeld in Lotus instead of Trulli, for example.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 04 Feb 2010, 16:19

Phoenix wrote:Heidfeld would have fit awesomely in Lotus or Virgin-new teams that look promising and would need a safe yet respectably fast pair of hands with nine years worth of experience. They should have put Heidfeld in Lotus instead of Trulli, for example.

I personally prefer Trulli to Heidfeld, but I do agree that Nick was probably more deserving of the seat and has more to offer F1 generally (he also doesn't throw temper tantrums, that we know of). But I'd rather have seen Sato, Davidson or Klien than either of them.

BigG80 · Post by **BigG80** » 04 Feb 2010, 16:37

I agree that Heidfeld should have had the Sauber seat over De La Rosa.

How much do we think Heidfeld has made over his career in terms of money? My reason for asking is that a lot of people comment that he doesn't bring a lot of sponsorship with him so would be looking for a paid drive or a free seat as opposed to bringing money with him to to the team.

But, if he'd made a reasonable amount of money in his career, could he not have literally bought his seat?

I suppose it comes down to how much money does a person need to have to be comfortable in life and how much money can he make when he retires from F1.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 04 Feb 2010, 20:20

fjackdaw wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Heidfeld would have fit awesomely in Lotus or Virgin-new teams that look promising and would need a safe yet respectably fast pair of hands with nine years worth of experience. They should have put Heidfeld in Lotus instead of Trulli, for example.

I personally prefer Trulli to Heidfeld, but I do agree that Nick was probably more deserving of the seat and has more to offer F1 generally (he also doesn't throw temper tantrums, that we know of). But I'd rather have seen Sato, Davidson or Klien than either of them.

I think Sato, Davidson and Klien are already part of past F1 history.

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 05 Feb 2010, 00:52

Phoenix wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Heidfeld would have fit awesomely in Lotus or Virgin-new teams that look promising and would need a safe yet respectably fast pair of hands with nine years worth of experience. They should have put Heidfeld in Lotus instead of Trulli, for example.

I personally prefer Trulli to Heidfeld, but I do agree that Nick was probably more deserving of the seat and has more to offer F1 generally (he also doesn't throw temper tantrums, that we know of). But I'd rather have seen Sato, Davidson or Klien than either of them.

I think Sato, Davidson and Klien are already part of past F1 history.

That's what I thought about de la Rosa, too.

fjackdaw · Post by **fjackdaw** » 05 Feb 2010, 01:33

Waris wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I think Sato, Davidson and Klien are already part of past F1 history.

That's what I thought about de la Rosa, too.

And Michael Schumacher. And, if rumours are to believed, Ralf Schumacher and Jacques Villeneuve. And certainly Luca Badoer. And Vinantonio Liuzzi. And Alex Wurz, prior to his recent comeback. Ditto, further back, Tarso Marques.

In short, never say never.